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I'm pretty interested in the 4870x2 for my new build so I'm wondering if ATI will bring out some optimizations or something in the near future.
Just to clear things up. I know you can fold on the latest ATI cards but they're very weak. I'm just wondering when the top dog ATI will crank like the top dog NVidia card.
I dunno, I hope so, because I want a 4870 so bad, I can get one from newegg for $250 AR, but folding is tempting me a little to an nvidia card... argh.
I'm not touching ati till they actually do support it. Who's to say it will be fully supported? Ati had last round, nvidia this one.
We'll see.
I can speak from experience. MultiGPU solutions even if they give higher FPS do not give a better play experience. Even in games where a 9800GX2 beats the GTX280 in FPS the GTX 280 is a smoother more consistent ride. The 4870 is a good gaming card for the most part but not at all good for folding right now. If you are going to spend the money on a 4870X2 forget it and get a 280. You PPD will be higher and your FPS may be lower but your actual experience at the controls will be better. After the G200b launches your FPS won't even be better in most games if all the rumors are true.
Mak2000, I agree 100% percent. Quality and smoothness matter most to me. I was going to get a gtx260, but no worries, you won't be havint to deal with a ppd monster like that.... ;)
Nice lead btw. 250k is coming up fast huh?
INtel quad... now NVIDIA cards.... What has become of you Sparky? :shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
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Well I didn't break down, I just ordered a 4870 :up: Couldn't beat the price!Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] riptide
My 3rd nvidia card will be here tomorrow while my ATIs lay on the table. I dont think they can optimize it enough to equal nvidias PPD... :shakes:
I have a Q6600 B3 that I'd trade for an 8800... :D
You can get around 4,000 or more with dual SMP clients on Ubuntu, the 8800gt is only going to get you around 5,000...Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
8800 I can drop into fold6 right now, boosting it from a tad under 300PPD to that 5000PPD. The Q6600 I would need a PSU, RAM, and motherboard. More $$$ that I don't have.Quote:
Originally Posted by road-runner
How do you figure 4000PPD on the Q6600? Mine at 3.45GHz with one client doing 2665 is 2200PPD, it wouldn't double with a second client I wouldn't think :shrug:
With Ubuntu you can get a lot more PPD and run 2-SMP clients, look at the names of my rigs. I am running 2 on every quad except 2 and those are windows...
Nobody knows, they will tell to keep waiting so that's why i jumped ship :up:
RR are you using custom os's or notfreds?
On topic, them Ati cards will get more support if Amd is in a better financial position, anyone really blind to the fact that is hasn't been peachy over there and these kind of projects often get put on a low flame untill things get better ( or wurse yet ). I believe the same has happend to Amd's development team. If it's not r&d budget but a real hw limitation I will eat someone's 4870x2!! ( I will really, just ship them to me! ).
I am using straight up Ubuntu 8.04 64 bit, as far as panda getting ATI to put out what Nvidia is doing I dont think it is going to happen is also why I jumped ship with ATI...Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvin_The_Martian
Nice to know we got some linux people here who we can ask for help witht those clients :up:
I got hopes for Ati, it will get better but not as quick as we all would like.
Hi, I'm curious ...Quote:
Originally Posted by road-runner
Are you run all this F@H on one rig ?
Is your QX9650 oc'ed ? B'cause I used Gainestown with 4SMP just gained +/-7xxx ppd .... points every SMP are +/-18xx ppd ...
Can I run CPU's 8SMP to gains the exact same ppd per SMP ? Or it'll just reduce the performance ?? I do intend to try it ... Just need some input ... :)
PS : VISTA 64Bit ...
THX
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...s/i7_293_2.jpg
I didn't get it, ewiz canceled the order because of a pricing mistake. Seems they do that a lot :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
Wow. Nice PPD for SMP. Not sure about your question though. Trial and error, I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by JCornell
Nehalem? Dual quads w/ hyperthready? HOLY :banana::banana::banana::banana:!
Just a thought though ... :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by MaK2000
Heard a rumor said max can run 8SMP without ppd effected ... :shrug:
So I plan to set the affinity to 2threads for each SMP ...
or I'll need to gather all the Nehalem(Gainestown + Bloomfield) systems to run all this SMP :rofl: <-- Just an option
Hope it'll work :shakes:
I just began run to this Gainestown SMP for a week, seems impressive for me though ... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Synthetickiller
This old nehalem news all I already posted at Xtreme News - Nehalem thread :D
you'll have to try and see what happens.... you have 16 cores, so that would be 8 smp clients to maximize the thread... (going from it takes 2 smps on a quad to get alll the cycles).
and I think you are allowed 8 machine id's... so it's probably doable. no idea how it scales software wise on 16 cores though... that would be 32 threads of fahcore_a1
Yeap you're right ...Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeB12
I think I'll just try it ...
Hope there wont be any error effects my previous SMP :shakes:
THX BTW
Not good enough, esp. that P3065 :worship: total just 9xxx ppd :ROTF: totally drain off the performance ...
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...neous/8SMP.jpg
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I think when I last set up my SMP clients they showed a machine ID up to 16, not that anyone would run 16 SMP's on a dual neha...Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeB12
That cpu usage graph isn't at 100% for any core... no :up: from me ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by JCornell
Edit: you know what, I think most would understand this is a joke, but for the one or two who would like to jump in 'ahahah it's 100% just taskman shows diffrent then you kentsfield, learn something new' let me just say it is up front ;)
No, this is several different rigs. My QX9650 is overclocked to 4ghz and running an 8800 also. You should be able to run 2 cores per SMP client, I have not had any luck doing in Windows but works rather well in Ubuntu using the taskset to assign cores...Quote:
Originally Posted by JCornell
:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by road-runner
Thanks for your enlightened ...
yeah, with windows,
Affinity changer is what maxes the 8 threads' of fahcore_a1 efficiency http://distributed.org.ua/forum/inde...showtopic=1149
I'm using it to run dual smps in vista64 with one gpu2 client...
http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/9454/92577247jg1.jpg
last time I tried it in xp, gpu wouldn't play nice with it... because I had to isolate fahcore_a1 to 3 cores, and affnity changer was written to use all 4 cores.
So you're running SMP with 3 rigs, right ? And each rig setup with 2 SMP's set to 2 cores each SMP, right ?Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeB12
But with Gainestown case, actual can run 8SMP's, but it seems doesn't boost enough performance ... too bad ... :(
My thought is maybe 2*SMT's can't perfectly handle 2*SMP's(8*Fahcore_a1) at the same time compare to physical cores ...
Maybe I'll try like yours on my yorkie ... 2SMP's for each cores ...
This is rough testing ... I doesn't manually set the affinity. But my experience to set affinity or not doesn't boost the performance ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvin_The_Martian
yeah J, that's 3 separate rigs with 1 Q6600 in each...