Insane HD 4870X2 Crossfire-X scaling action!

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08-07-2008, 03:31 PM
jaredpace

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Insane HD 4870X2 Crossfire-X scaling action!

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33929391

:clap:

http://www.hardware-infos.com/news.php?news=2292

:shocked:
08-07-2008, 03:32 PM
zanzabar

wow thats some nice scaling
08-07-2008, 03:33 PM
jaredpace

maybe they used 8.54 driver??
08-07-2008, 03:35 PM
Morgoth Bauglir

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaredpace

maybe they used 8.54 driver??

No.
08-07-2008, 03:38 PM
Gogeta

Very impressive scaling indeed.

Link of the review from Chiphell.
08-07-2008, 03:41 PM
STEvil

Just what you'd need to power this thing

http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/pr...go_widescreen/
08-07-2008, 03:50 PM
Sly Fox

Surprisingly good scaling... I'm somewhat skeptical, but if accurate, this is great news.
08-07-2008, 03:53 PM
Exedy

wtf chiphell link is 3870x2
08-07-2008, 03:54 PM
003

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gogeta

Very impressive scaling indeed.

Link of the review from Chiphell.

Thats a review of the 3870X2, not the 4870X2.

Holy siht at the UT3 results!!! 83FPS at 2048x1536 with friggen 8xAA and 16xAF??! That is absolutely insane!!

I am getting two 4870X2s when they come out !!! :yepp::up:
08-07-2008, 04:02 PM
Hornet331

hmm i'll wait for real reviews. I don't trust marketing slides :p:
08-07-2008, 04:49 PM
[XC] hipno650

impressive. it's funny how to begin with the single HD4870X2 has no issues at those insane settings. the second one for current games is a little over the top but this is XtremeSystems and over the top is what we do. however i would wonder how it scales in Crysis considering that game has a nack for bad scaling on new product.

now if we want to talk over the top then we could use 2 of these in crossfireX on a Skulltrail platform loaded with 8GB of RAM. you could run multiple games at once *drools on keyboard*
08-07-2008, 05:06 PM
zerazax

Those are some ridiculous numbers if true. And I hope so... I have a Rampage Formula lying around and a 30" monitor as well
08-07-2008, 05:07 PM
Anemone

Glad you tested @ 2560, because to me, that's what this high end is all about. If it can do that well, you can mentally scale it down res/up perf.
08-07-2008, 05:09 PM
003

Yeah ... my max resolution on my LCD is 1600x1200, so with UT3 at 16x12 with 8xAA and 16xAF and two 4870X2s... :slobber:

I may get a better monitor for 1920x1200, though. And even then, that is way less than 2048x1536 (but still higher than 1080p)!! :yepp:
08-07-2008, 05:18 PM
Calmatory

Over 100% scaling in DMC4 2560x1600. :drool:
08-07-2008, 05:23 PM
STaRGaZeR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hornet331

hmm i'll wait for real reviews. I don't trust marketing slides :p:

These are directly from AMD, I can confirm it. So mountain of salt :up:
08-07-2008, 05:24 PM
eXa

Quote:

Originally Posted by 003

Yeah ... my max resolution on my LCD is 1600x1200, so with UT3 at 16x12 with 8xAA and 16xAF and two 4870X2s... :slobber:

I may get a better monitor for 1920x1200, though. And even then, that is way less than 2048x1536 (but still higher than 1080p)!! :yepp:

Why 2 4870x2 then? u can max the fps on that monitor with only 1 card...
08-07-2008, 05:27 PM
ToTTenTranz

Quote:

Originally Posted by [XC] hipno650

impressive. it's funny how to begin with the single HD4870X2 has no issues at those insane settings. the second one for current games is a little over the top but this is XtremeSystems and over the top is what we do. however i would wonder how it scales in Crysis considering that game has a nack for bad scaling on new product.

Forget it. Crysis won't scale at all with more than two GPUs.
08-07-2008, 05:33 PM
Atal

I am just drooling everytime I see results of this card, but when exactly is it supposed to come out??? im clueless... august????:shrug:
08-07-2008, 05:36 PM
Monkeywoman

If they are from AMD then they used a Phenom cpu....:ROTF:
08-07-2008, 05:42 PM
003

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monkeywoman

If they are from AMD then they used a Phenom cpu....:ROTF:

AMD leaked a vantage extreme score of dual 4870X2s a while back, and it was in the X12k range, higher than the one in the OP actually. And they confirmed somewhere that it was with a phenom.

So... with dual 4870X2s and my Q9450 @ 3.7-3.9GHz (PLUS the overclocked GPUs as well)... :slobber:

eXa:
Yeah one of them will run it. But the posted framerates were averages... so 50% of the time it was lower, 50% of the time it was higher. Now if I could get UT3 running at 1920x1200 at max graphics, with 8xAA and 16xAF, and never have the minimum framerate drop below say 80... I'd be set! :D
08-07-2008, 06:11 PM
GAR

Very nice indeed, this def. catches my eyes, BUT i can tell you one think, with dual GPU, you get a lower MIN FPS sometimes, but a big increase in MAX FPS, thats why you get a higher avg, anyway thats what i exp. with my 4850 crossfire.
08-07-2008, 06:12 PM
krille

What CPU (especially clocks) are they using?
08-07-2008, 06:22 PM
disruptfam

yeah ^^^^^
08-07-2008, 06:35 PM
Swatrecon_

super h4x. this is awesome, i'm glad AMD can do this.
08-07-2008, 06:39 PM
Tonucci

Looks promising !

But lets wait for real reviews like xbitlabs does, with min and avg FPS and TONS of games tested.
08-07-2008, 06:47 PM
Sparky

Do I buy a 4870 now... or wait for the 4870x2.... or buy a laptop.... or buy crunchers.... or..... ahh too many choices...!!! *head explodes*
08-07-2008, 06:50 PM
Aberration

Well the wait for the 4870x2 is not that long :D
08-07-2008, 07:15 PM
AriciU

If it ends up scaling like that i will definately buy 2 of them and get rid of my current ones :) So the HX1000 will make sense :D
08-07-2008, 07:26 PM
disruptfam

Would i a quad @ 4ghz for this setup?
08-07-2008, 07:34 PM
tiro_uspsss

Crysis? :D
08-07-2008, 07:34 PM
eXa

Quote:

Originally Posted by 003

eXa:
Yeah one of them will run it. But the posted framerates were averages... so 50% of the time it was lower, 50% of the time it was higher. Now if I could get UT3 running at 1920x1200 at max graphics, with 8xAA and 16xAF, and never have the minimum framerate drop below say 80... I'd be set! :D

Do ur screen run at 80Hz? my bet its 60Hz, so 60fps is all u need mate ;)
And 1 is running a average of 55 @ 2560x1600 so i still think u need only 1 for ur needs...
08-07-2008, 07:39 PM
[XC] Synthetickiller

Quote:

Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

Do I buy a 4870 now... or wait for the 4870x2.... or buy a laptop.... or buy crunchers.... or..... ahh too many choices...!!! *head explodes*

All of the above.

SparkyJJO, listen to "the purple bottle" by Animal Collective and re-read your statement.

That is what was entering my ears when I read it and my head nearly exploded!
08-07-2008, 07:45 PM
[XC] Synthetickiller

I have a lacie 22" crt that does 2048x1536. IDK if the hz is 75 or 80 or 85, but man, these cards could do it justice!
08-07-2008, 07:55 PM
Sparky

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synthetickiller

All of the above.

SparkyJJO, listen to "the purple bottle" by Animal Collective and re-read your statement.

That is what was entering my ears when I read it and my head nearly exploded!

...................!!! http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ys/gr_bomb.gif

Can't do all. Don't have that much. In the near future I'll have ~$500 to play with.
08-07-2008, 07:58 PM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synthetickiller

I have a lacie 22" crt that does 2048x1536. IDK if the hz is 75 or 80 or 85, but man, these cards could do it justice!

it would be 75Hz - same as mine! :up:

(CRT FTW) :D
08-07-2008, 08:43 PM
003

Quote:

Originally Posted by eXa

Do ur screen run at 80Hz? my bet its 60Hz, so 60fps is all u need mate ;)
And 1 is running a average of 55 @ 2560x1600 so i still think u need only 1 for ur needs...

Yes it does run at 60Hz, but I can still feel a difference between say 70fps and 150fps. I've got an LG L2000C. Don't ask me how or why, because I do not know. Don't even care if you believe me or not, but I can feel the difference.

I used to be a firm believer in your train of thought back when I had a LaCie electron19blueIV CRT, and I had access to glorious 120Hz refresh rates, and then I could REALLY see and feel the difference.

When I switched to the LG L2000C, it was kind of painful at first, as I experienced the impacts of going from being pampered at 120Hz to being locked at 60Hz. But eventually, I am able to still tell a positive difference between 60fps and 120+ fps on the L2000C. It's not the same as the electron19blueIV, but there is something funny/out-of-my-grasp-of-knowledge going on here, and it is not placebo.
08-07-2008, 08:56 PM
gOJDO

Very nice. finally, there are some cards that can make Nehalem a bottleneck for the system :D
08-07-2008, 09:03 PM
eXa

Quote:

Originally Posted by 003

Yes it does run at 60Hz, but I can still feel a difference between say 70fps and 150fps. I've got an LG L2000C. Don't ask me how or why, because I do not know. Don't even care if you believe me or not, but I can feel the difference.

I used to be a firm believer in your train of thought back when I had a LaCie electron19blueIV CRT, and I had access to glorious 120Hz refresh rates, and then I could REALLY see and feel the difference.

When I switched to the LG L2000C, it was kind of painful at first, as I experienced the impacts of going from being pampered at 120Hz to being locked at 60Hz. But eventually, I am able to still tell a positive difference between 60fps and 120+ fps on the L2000C. It's not the same as the electron19blueIV, but there is something funny/out-of-my-grasp-of-knowledge going on here, and it is not placebo.

Well my screen tears so much so i have to use v-sync anyways....
08-07-2008, 09:15 PM
SNiiPE_DoGG

that vantage extreme score seems awfully sketchy, especially if they were on a Phenom...
08-07-2008, 09:16 PM
003

Nope, these are actually legit. It will be amusing to watch everybody argue over this, while I sit back smugly and wait for the official release, and you all realize they were real.

Quote:

Originally Posted by eXa

Well my screen tears so much so i have to use v-sync anyways....

Mine tears as well, but I have trained myself to ignore it. I don't even notice it anymore.
08-07-2008, 09:42 PM
Lastviking

Hmmm done with Denab @ 3.5 ghz+ ? or something?
08-07-2008, 09:48 PM
grimREEFER

well, still doesn't scale as well as 2, and i still think having more than 2 gpu's doesn't make too much sense, whether it be tri sli or this.
08-08-2008, 12:03 AM
flopper

Quote:

Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

Do I buy a 4870 now... or wait for the 4870x2.... or buy a laptop.... or buy crunchers.... or..... ahh too many choices...!!! *head explodes*

Your a Tomato?
:rofl:
08-08-2008, 12:19 AM
Leeghoofd

Quote:

Originally Posted by grimREEFER

well, still doesn't scale as well as 2, and i still think having more than 2 gpu's doesn't make too much sense, whether it be tri sli or this.

That's a matter of how you look at it mate... I haven't seen an SLI or crossfire setup do close to 80-100 scaling in games... if these are valid ATI did a nice job on their PCB design... hope they can keep it up and translate this power via good drivers for all the games out there...

Can't wait till next week when these monsters are out here...
08-08-2008, 01:14 AM
hecktic

send a pair to fugger, have him test it out and then ill believe it
08-08-2008, 01:19 AM
Etihtsarom

Woa
Please
No
...
Economy slow... must save $$$...

Actually too much power even for 2500 res.
08-08-2008, 01:29 AM
eXa

Quote:

Originally Posted by hecktic

send a pair to fugger, have him test it out and then ill believe it

Why? When did he became the king of all independent testers...?
08-08-2008, 01:36 AM
clonez

hes got a reputation to loose

not good to choose one side, wont be able to play with the goodies from the oher camp (nvidia etc.)
08-08-2008, 01:37 AM
tdream

but can it play crysis? :chicken:
08-08-2008, 01:49 AM
flopper

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdream

but can it play crysis? :chicken:

ofc.
just at 800x600 as the other cards.
:yepp:
08-08-2008, 02:03 AM
clonez

lets see if warhead fixes that multi gpu problem

those numbers are impressive, though
08-08-2008, 02:14 AM
Luka_Aveiro

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

That's a matter of how you look at it mate... I haven't seen an SLI or crossfire setup do close to 80-100 scaling in games... if these are valid ATI did a nice job on their PCB design... hope they can keep it up and translate this power via good drivers for all the games out there..

I quite believe this very good scaling is due to the CrossFireX Sideport present on the new GPUs RV770, nothing to do with PCB design ;)
08-08-2008, 02:19 AM
LaMpiR

There is no Crysis benchmarks? That's strange...
08-08-2008, 02:39 AM
Leeghoofd

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luka_Aveiro

I quite believe this very good scaling is due to the CrossFireX Sideport present on the new GPUs RV770, nothing to do with PCB design ;)

Yep this X2 scales way better then 2 crossfire single GPU's... it was my replay to grimpreaper who didn't seem to be impressed by these massive numbers by adding a 2nd card... gains here are huge (if true ofcourse)
08-08-2008, 03:50 AM
Overgloc

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOE

first of all crysis scales poorly, and doesnt support xfire properly

second - no one should even care about crysis - it is one of the most unefficient, poorly optimised engine/game available

crysis will be perfectly playable in 2-3 years, but then we will have games that look much better than it, and run at higher frame rates

QFMFT
08-08-2008, 03:58 AM
AliG

man, that's powerful, and compared to what nvidia initially wanted this will also be very price appealing (especially considering the low cost of 790gx boards for amd users)
08-08-2008, 03:59 AM
YMAA

Why does every video card thread end up as a Crysis bashfest?
08-08-2008, 04:12 AM
ToTTenTranz

Quote:

Originally Posted by YMAA

Why does every video card thread end up as a Crysis bashfest?

Because everyone is frustrated for not being able to play the game maxed out.

Rule #1 of making games is: do not frustrate your gamers;
Rule #2 of making games is: DO NOT frustrate your gamers;

It's as if they cut the hardcore gamers' e-penises by 1/3.
08-08-2008, 04:15 AM
OBR

CrossFire didnot work in Crysis ... cause we havent any scores ...
08-08-2008, 05:47 AM
postumus

looks like overkill to me, a single 4870x2 will do just fine...
08-08-2008, 06:27 AM
Shocker003

Where are all the Nvidia fan boys(WAR-B, have you seen these scores):bows:. All the same most people finially have something to upgrade. Maybe i will upgrade to HD 4870x2 by the end of the year, so that the price will drop and the beta drivers would have been replaced. Please is something wrong with XS mailing, as i don´t get my daily mails any longer:brick:

NB: Am not an ATI fan boy; I still use an 8800GTS;)
08-08-2008, 06:37 AM
hecktic

Quote:

Originally Posted by eXa

Why? When did he became the king of all independent testers...?

this is XS.... he has made many non bias reviews and I have also seen many posts showing he has in fact used ATI cards just as much he does nVidia... again no bias.....

Im sure if he had a pair of 4870X2s he could really stress test them AND put them up side by side with a pair of 9800GX2s, GTX280s, etc.

so no he has not the king of all independent testers.... maybe just XS... for now :yepp:
08-08-2008, 12:07 PM
Xello

Same nonsense, different thread!

The reason people are asking if it can max crysis is because we already have [much cheaper] cards that can max out every other game.

Read until it sinks in :up:
08-08-2008, 12:19 PM
JohnZS

Those results are amazing...if ATi can pull off good drivers and have the support in all games they will be onto another sure winner :)
HD4870X2 is epic, I've not quite found a word to describe the results for the HD4870X2 Crossfire results posted....other than mouthwateringsupercduperframeratepusherFTW.
Not meaning to sound too much like an nVidia Fanboy raining on ATI's Parade but my concern is that you would require your own PowerSub Station to power your PC....but hey....this is XtremeSystems and there are few things more Xtreme than having your own dedicated Power Station ;)
John
08-08-2008, 12:22 PM
Gogeta

Quote:

Originally Posted by 003

Thats a review of the 3870X2, not the 4870X2.

Bogus. That's what I get for blindly linking the article which was posted on Rage3D.
08-08-2008, 12:25 PM
Cooper

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBR

CrossFire didnot work in Crysis ... cause we havent any scores ...

CF works in Crysis. It just doesn't scale properly
08-08-2008, 01:00 PM
003

Who was it that put a tri-SLI GTX280 rig under ln2 and got a vantage extreme score of X17k? I'd love to see dual 4870X2s under ln2!
08-08-2008, 01:14 PM
Xello

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnZS

my concern is that you would require your own PowerSub Station to power your PC

I'm not sure it's that bad, especially compared to 3 GTX280's, or maybe even 2.

Is there anything known about its power usage?

Quote:

Originally Posted by 003

Who was it that put a tri-SLI GTX280 rig under ln2 and got a vantage extreme score of X17k?

Sounds like KP, though i'm sure those 3 280's at stock still got a higher score than this quad-fire result, so i'm not sure ln2 would outperform tri-sli in that test.
08-08-2008, 02:45 PM
003

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xello

Sounds like KP, though i'm sure those 3 280's at stock still got a higher score than this quad-fire result, so i'm not sure ln2 would outperform tri-sli in that test.

If I remember correctly, the stock score was X14K. And obviously, even at stock, the CPU being used was far faster than the phenom used for X11-12K quadfire.
08-08-2008, 04:25 PM
Hu1kamania

Seems like most of those games had playable frame rates with a single card to begin with. I look forward to seeing how well CF scales in more demanding games. The horse power is there, but are the drivers?
08-08-2008, 05:58 PM
purecain

hmm... looks like i'll be upgrading again.... cant wait for the reviews...
08-08-2008, 06:03 PM
Chewbenator

Looks like ATI will continue to dominate the price/performance levels. That is some damn impressive scaling.
08-08-2008, 06:23 PM
Charles Wirth

I would push the cards hard and I would be fair, hopefully scaling is what they claim and not epic fail in games like I have experianced before.

We will soon see from independant benchers, we all win from a good price/performance battle in the gpu market.
08-08-2008, 10:49 PM
Monkeywoman

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HD 4870 X2: Crossfire-X-Interconnect

"Now it is clear what AMD means with Crossfire-X-Interconnect. It is a bidirectional link between two graphic chips with 5 GB/s. The total interconnect bandwidth by HD 4870 X2 is 21.8 GB/s against 6.4 GB/s by HD 3870 X2."

source; http://www.hardware-infos.com/news.php?news=2292
08-08-2008, 11:14 PM
Kai Robinson

Hang on, is the sideport only in operation with the X2's or is it in use with the regular crossfire bridges as well? I'm also assuming this is heavily driver dependant as well...
08-08-2008, 11:48 PM
rcofell

I would assume only with the X2s, since the CFBI connection in the diagram would represent the normal crossfire bridge, no? I haven't really kept up with things in depth, but I assume the crossfire bridge is only for transferring completed frames too(seeing how that diagram shows only unidirectional transfers).

If these gains prove to be at all true, I wonder how much of the improvement is from what I suspect would be a lower latency bus with easier addressing versus just the added bandwidth.
08-09-2008, 01:40 AM
ahmad

Thats quite impressive actually. Three way CFX?
08-09-2008, 01:42 AM
Leeghoofd

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shocker003

Where are all the Nvidia fan boys(WAR-B, have you seen these scores):bows:. All the same most people finially have something to upgrade. Maybe i will upgrade to HD 4870x2 by the end of the year, so that the price will drop and the beta drivers would have been replaced. Please is something wrong with XS mailing, as i don´t get my daily mails any longer:brick:

I received 600 plus mails today :) and why the demand for N fanboys ? each makes his own decision on buying a Gfx card.. enthousiasts buy +400 buck cards, but many gamers will go for the medium range cards, others prefer single GPU's, others don't have the PSU to power it, some peeps cases are too small,... the list is endless... it's not all about pure power... many can live with being at 40FPS at their preferred resolution, others need 150FPS...

ATI did one heck of a job here, top notch, competition is nice !!!
08-09-2008, 03:36 AM
Syn.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kai Robinson

Hang on, is the sideport only in operation with the X2's or is it in use with the regular crossfire bridges as well? I'm also assuming this is heavily driver dependant as well...

SidePort goes through PCB it self, so the answer to your question is no.
08-09-2008, 08:58 AM
jaredpace

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

ATI did one heck of a job here, top notch, competition is nice !!!

You mean Nvidia struggling to compete with Ati's performance crown? :ROTF:

JK JK :)
08-09-2008, 09:12 AM
Monkeywoman

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R700 Crossfire X Scaling Efficiency up to 104 %

"Chiphell seems to have some early numbers on the 4870X2 (& 4870X2 CF) slated for launch next Tuesday. On initial review, looks like CrossFireX scaling is really good (35-104% improvement) with an average of 66% increase over a single 4870X2. Impressive numbers for launch drivers.

We'll keep updating this story as more websites publish their numbers before the official launch."

source; http://gpucafe.com/2008/08/4870x2-be...-trickling-in/
08-09-2008, 09:51 AM
003

O. M. F. G.

Look at those speeds at 2560x1600 with 8x AA and 16x AF!!!!

My next pair of cards... I can't wait. Heck, I might not even water cool them.
08-09-2008, 09:53 AM
informal

This might be a nail in the coffin of the GTX280 SLI/TriSLI... I'm eagerly awaiting the clash of those.
Who could have thought that tables will turn so suddenly with RV770.One small chip to rule them all(until RV870 rocks us again :D)
08-09-2008, 10:25 AM
annihilat0r

Why would anyone without a 30" monitor need a 4870x2 in place of a 4870 is beyond me.

Why would anyone EVER need two of them is really hard to understand.

All games are for consoles, consoles' graphics chips aren't any better than a 8800GT.

On a PC you've got more resolution and AA/AF, but that's about it. 4870x2 would be roughly 4-5 times faster than consoles' cards.
08-09-2008, 11:07 AM
spicypixel

Quote:

Originally Posted by annihilat0r

Why would anyone without a 30" monitor need a 4870x2 in place of a 4870 is beyond me.

Why would anyone EVER need two of them is really hard to understand.

All games are for consoles, consoles' graphics chips aren't any better than a 8800GT.

On a PC you've got more resolution and AA/AF, but that's about it. 4870x2 would be roughly 4-5 times faster than consoles' cards.

Need != Want. :D
08-09-2008, 11:09 AM
Helmore

Quote:

Originally Posted by spicypixel

Need != Want. :D

True, although the world might have been better off if it were :p:
08-09-2008, 11:22 AM
ahmad

Quote:

Originally Posted by annihilat0r

Why would anyone without a 30" monitor need a 4870x2 in place of a 4870 is beyond me.

Why would anyone EVER need two of them is really hard to understand.

All games are for consoles, consoles' graphics chips aren't any better than a 8800GT.

On a PC you've got more resolution and AA/AF, but that's about it. 4870x2 would be roughly 4-5 times faster than consoles' cards.

the luxury of such a choice is something a few people can enjoy.. With this kind of scaling, CPUs cannot keep up with the performance.
08-09-2008, 11:27 AM
negev

Quote:

Originally Posted by annihilat0r

Why would anyone without a 30" monitor need a 4870x2 in place of a 4870 is beyond me.

Why would anyone EVER need two of them is really hard to understand.

Crysis.
08-09-2008, 11:47 AM
Eternalightwith

it's for my

Quote:

Originally Posted by annihilat0r

Why would anyone without a 30" monitor need a 4870x2 in place of a 4870 is beyond me.

Why would anyone EVER need two of them is really hard to understand.

All games are for consoles, consoles' graphics chips aren't any better than a 8800GT.

On a PC you've got more resolution and AA/AF, but that's about it. 4870x2 would be roughly 4-5 times faster than consoles' cards.

Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 2070SB :D
08-09-2008, 12:29 PM
Kai Robinson

Quote:

Originally Posted by negev

Crysis.

And unfortunately, CF on Crysis doesn't really work....other games scale resonably well, but a 10fps gain from adding a second HD4850 for me, isn't worth it. Cervat Yerli, i'm staring at YOU.
08-09-2008, 12:46 PM
JargonGR

Hmm even for my 30" monitor one 4870X2 seems enough...Maybe I will start with one and get a second months later. But wait! This is what I said last time with my 8800GTX and then got a second one 3 days later. And looool I have not played more than 6-7 games during the last 3 years.
08-09-2008, 01:52 PM
Helmore

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kai Robinson

And unfortunately, CF on Crysis doesn't really work....other games scale resonably well, but a 10fps gain from adding a second HD4850 for me, isn't worth it. Cervat Yerli, i'm staring at YOU.

Who the heck is Cervat Yerli? :shrug:

@JargonGR: But how much/how long have you played those 6-7 games?
08-09-2008, 02:02 PM
Leeghoofd

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helmore

Who the heck is Cervat Yerli? :shrug:

@JargonGR: But how much/how long have you played those 6-7 games?

He's the guy on the dartsblock of every Crysis user with multiple GPU's setups... :rofl:
08-09-2008, 02:12 PM
Hu1kamania

Quote:

Originally Posted by annihilat0r

Why would anyone without a 30" monitor need a 4870x2 in place of a 4870 is beyond me.

Why would anyone EVER need two of them is really hard to understand.

All games are for consoles, consoles' graphics chips aren't any better than a 8800GT.

On a PC you've got more resolution and AA/AF, but that's about it. 4870x2 would be roughly 4-5 times faster than consoles' cards.

Are you serious? I think you ultimately answer your own question in more ways than one.

My honest opinion is that two of these wont be enough for me, but I just might have to make due....as usual.

Until I can run EVERY game at the highest concievable quality, without compromise (in game and external configuration) and retain totally fluid frame rates (BARE MINIMUM of 45fps) I wont be totally happy.

Also, all games are NOT for console. Such as most every decent MMO.
08-09-2008, 02:35 PM
Papu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hu1kamania

Are you serious? I think you ultimately answer your own question in more ways than one.

My honest opinion is that two of these wont be enough for me, but I just might have to make due....as usual.

Until I can run EVERY game at the highest concievable quality, without compromise (in game and external configuration) and retain totally fluid frame rates (BARE MINIMUM of 45fps) I wont be totally happy.

Also, all games are NOT for console. Such as most every decent MMO.

yeah but most mmo's are made so they can run on Supermarket Laptops , I dont think an mmo would sell very well if it was only able to run on machines with 4870's and quadcores with 4gigs of ram
08-09-2008, 03:09 PM
Xello

Quote:

Originally Posted by annihilat0r

All games are for consoles, consoles' graphics chips aren't any better than a 8800GT.

On a PC you've got more resolution and AA/AF, but that's about it.

What the hell?
08-09-2008, 03:12 PM
Papu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xello

What the hell?

i think he missed that little game called crysis :rofl:
08-09-2008, 03:15 PM
Aberration

Show me a good flight simulator on a console. And dont give me no arcade crap like Ace Combat.

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