UNOFFICIAL BIOSTAR TPower I45 M/B

OVERVIEW:http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/...n.php?S_ID=365

SPECIFICATION:http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/...t.php?S_ID=365

CPU SUPPORT: http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/...t.php?S_ID=365

BIOS: http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/bios.php?S_ID=365

DRIVER: http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/driver.php?S_ID=365

ACCESSORIES: http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/...s.php?S_ID=365

five below bios images are shown with an E8500 cpu installed (Prime 95 stable for 2 hours)

https://home.comcast.net/~captain-is...ar/bios-14.jpg

https://home.comcast.net/~captain-is...ar/bios-10.jpg

https://home.comcast.net/~captain-is...ar/bios-11.jpg

https://home.comcast.net/~captain-is...ar/bios-12.jpg

https://home.comcast.net/~captain-is...ar/bios-13.jpg



five below bios images are shown with a QX9650 cpu installed (Prime 95 stable for one hour)

https://home.comcast.net/~captain-is...tar/bios-5.jpg

https://home.comcast.net/~captain-is...tar/bios-6.jpg

https://home.comcast.net/~captain-is...tar/bios-7.jpg

https://home.comcast.net/~captain-is...tar/bios-8.jpg

https://home.comcast.net/~captain-is...tar/bios-9.jpg

my board will be here on monday...i was hoping today but either newegg or ups misfired from their TN warehouse.

darn the local channels.. they only have biostar video card. :(

i can buy it for you and then ship it via USPS EMI...if you cover all the expenses through paypal plus the fee they charge to transfer the money, i will do it for you...first you would have to transfer money to me...PM me if you are interested.

already ordered mine, let see if will arrive next monday

hooping to see some config settings from you guys because its been pass some time that i oc my cpu

best regards

I'll think about it. My friend is more interested in this baby. :D hehehe I'll pass him on to you.

Nice. I enjoyed Ace-a-Rue's posts in the Abit P35 monster thread and I'm looking forward to another great thread for a motherboard that is deserving of all the attention it is getting. :up:

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

i can buy it for you and then ship it via USPS EMI...if you cover all the expenses through paypal plus the fee they charge to transfer the money, i will do it for you...first you would have to transfer money to me...PM me if you are interested.

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wow this is a good offer dude :D

can you please PM me the total cost including the shipping to manila philippines via USPS EMI ?

thank you very much :)

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Nice. I enjoyed Ace-a-Rue's posts in the Abit P35 monster thread and I'm looking forward to another great thread for a motherboard that is deserving of all the attention it is getting.:up:

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i learned a lot in the abit IP35 moster thread :up:

Cool we needed a decent topic on this.
Its pretty easy to get by in Belgium.
I might by one if things turn out nice here.

why not buy the cheaper Biostar TSeries TP45 HP?

four reasons that i see right away:

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Originally Posted by Your Biostar TForce I45 HP m/b

Your board has NO Raid available and the other highligted items below

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Originally Posted by My Biostar TPower I45 m/b

Hybrid Space-Pipe

As the Desktop system increase more fans to achieve better Overclocking, Normally, Motherboard’s heat generators are chipsets, PWM and Graphics card.

Combined with Biostar "Cooler Harbor" and "V-Pipe" Thermal solution, deliver the ultimate thermal performance and silently. Overclockers can start to boost your Desktop performance effortlessly with this new revolution!

Cooler Harbor

Effectively Thermal design directs the heat generated by MB chipsets to the heatsink on rear I/O panel, easily exhaust by existing airflow from CPU fan and a fan.

The ideal heat-pipe design on this motherboard is that the original fanless design does not have reliability problems as a chipset fan does.


T-Power2™ is a new powerful MB utility designed by Biostar Engineers for use only on Biostar motherboards and VGA cards. T-Power2™ interact hardware and software management. T-Power2 features Windows-based OC Tweaker™, BIO-WATCH™, eHot-line™ and Biostar Flash™ into a user-friendly interface providing users the perfect environment with which to maximize performance and stability.

Raid is available

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differential cost is only $25 more at newegg

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Originally Posted by DJSUB

wow this is a good offer dude :D

can you please PM me the total cost including the shipping to manila philippines via USPS EMI ?

thank you very much :)

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PM sent:)

are these boards from biostar anygood? I was thinking about getting the t45 HP

also could you PM me what it would cost for the board + usps priority shipping to 05641 U.S.? for some reason my paypal will not allow me to buy from newegg and tigerdirect does not have this board in stock

Need help...
After reached 650FSB (dice), motherbord turn instable...
I did stop the tests...
next day the motherboard was dead (Post FF)
Is there are sombody can help me with some new idea...i will aprecite so much...
The condensation was isolated when i did the tests...and i can t understand why this problem occur...
I just put the motherboard in the sun (lol)...and it keeps dead...
Sorry the broken english

hmmm...sounds like either to much vcore or supporting voltages or moisture did short something out...have you tried another CPU?

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Originally Posted by philbrown23

are these boards from biostar anygood? I was thinking about getting the t45 HP

also could you PM me what it would cost for the board + usps priority shipping to 05641 U.S.? for some reason my paypal will not allow me to buy from newegg and tigerdirect does not have this board in stock

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you might want to check with paypal to see why...log on to your online account to check to see if they have a problem with your checking account...i can access PayPal from newegg for payment!

i was only doing this for this one international user...unfortunately, you would still need to use paypal with me so that wouldn't work out if i decided to help you...sorry.

looking forward for more reviews on this board.

here is the board, 2-Raptor Velocity drives, EVGA 9800 GTX, Areca 1210 PCIe Raid card.

More Images

Anticipating your testing Ace..
Windwithme got some pretty high fsb on one of the Biostars.. http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=572320

newegg is the only place my pypal will not work, and they said it's because my newegg account it to new?? has this happened to anyone else? well looks like the tp45 hp it is for me :(

@Ace-a-Rue,
thanks for posting pics man.
really hoping to see some action soon.

the board does about 20 Mhz better on the FSB with the same E8500 that was used on the Gigabyte X48T (DDR3) DQ6 board.

what i see with the PCIe 16x slots is a slight limitation...if you do not intend on doing crossfire and just run one video card, that card can run at 16x (PCIE 2.0 specs)...the 2nd PCIE 16x slot will not function with anything plugged into the slot...it is powered but the bios will not recognize it...i have an Areca Raid 8X PCIe raid card that i wanted to operate in the 2nd 16X slot...in order to do that, i had to move the jumpers on the board to enable crossfire which puts both 16X slots into 8X speed....it is not a big thing because the speed is there for a single video card, as long it is a PCIe 2.0 specs card...i have an 9800 GTX card.

i'll run some 3D benches tomorrow or later on this morning:D to show the differences between the X48 DDR3 board and this board with the same video card used on the X48T.

basically...i could do 500 FSB @ 8x on the GA-X48T DQ6 board (GSkill DDR3-1600 memory) and this board i can do 520 FSB @ 8x using only GSkill DDR2-6400 memory..pretty good!:up:

two quicky benches...the HDTach is done on Raptor Veloci 10K RPM drives...these drives are only 2.5 inches...the latency is a bit higher than their Sata I 10K RPM 150 Gb drives but they are faster in sequential read speed.

the PCMARK 2005 bench was done on these drives which will boost the score because the drives are in a Raid 0, 128K stripe...over a single drive setup, it might mean about 500-700 point differential.

i will show you what the Gigabyte X48T board scored with the same E8500 with a different drives attached to the Areca 8x card...i'll have to pull those drives out of this machine (i have two extra) and attach them to the Biostar Areca card and then run set up again for a comparison...BUT...just from an eyeball point of view, this board and the P45 chipset is darn good for a DDR2 board.

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

in order to do that, i had to move the jumpers on the board to enable crossfire which puts both 16X slots into 8X speed

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I thought this was normal for the p45's. :shrug:
Just anything populating the 2 slots kicks it to 8x ??

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Originally Posted by OnDborder

I thought this was normal for the p45's. :shrug:
Just anything populating the 2 slots kicks it to 8x ??

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that is what i thought...biostar, at least for their board, did not design it that way...it is shipped with 8 RED and one normal black, in color type, jumper set to run the 1st PCIe slot at 16X speed...the 2nd slot is powered but the bios won't recognize the card; not until you do the jumper thing.

here is a picture of the board..i inserted a green arrow to highlight the two banks of red jumpers which have to be moved over from rows 1/2 to 2/3 to put it into crossfire...there are eight jumpers.

there is a 9th jumper to move also, which is just like all the rest of the jumpers on the board...i used a yellow arrow to identify it...the manual does spell this out in clear terms.

i am going to run the 3D2001, 3D2005 and 3D2006 benches to see how this puppy runs in crossfire at 8x speed...i am going to gather that the tests results will be slightly better with the exact same video card used on my X48T DQ6 (DDR3) board....will see in a hour or so.:)

WOOPS!...i got confused looking back at my images from the X48T board...i was looking at 8800 GTS results...sorry!...found the 9800 GTX results and the scores are higher than this biostar but the frequency was higher...so my objective is to match the frequency and rerun the tests...be back in a while.

Hope to receive mine tomorrow:)

my memory settings are little fussy since i am using DDR-6400...i tried DDR-8000 and it was about the same...with the 6400 memory, one memory timing change can stop it from posting...then, there is a little bit of a hassle to reset the bios with a previous saved bios...they have a numerical value that you can set for how many times it should try to overclock at the newer settings...might as well set it to 1 or 0 since 3 times (default setting) doesn't get you any where but lost time.

first set of images are from Gigabyte X48T-DQ6 (DDR3) board with the 9800 GTX card and same Areca card in Raid 0 but the drives were different...i used Seagate 7200.10 series, 250 gig, Sata II, one platter drives on the X48 Areca card.

the biostar has Veloci-Raptor, 300 gig, Sata II drives...pretty amazing drive for only 2.75" wide.

next post will show the Biostar runs.

here are the biostar runs at the same FSB and Mhz...the link speed is only 8X while gigabyte was at 16X...both boards incorporate the PCIe 2.0 specs.

biostar keeps right up with the X48T board and it is running at half the link speed...i'd say biostar did a darn good job of engineering this board for half the price!

superpi runs for the next post.

superpi was right there and better than i could do on the GA-X48T-DQ6 (DDR3) board:

Ace, can you test the vdroop with Quad ? Thx...

i'll have to find the actual DIMM measuring point...i won't change out to a quad until a few days from now....i need to run a new setup with different drives to makes sure the Veloci-Raptors are not adding an extra edge to any of the benches other than PCMark 2005...that bench will do better with the raptors.

i'm about 1.5 hours into Prime 95...hanging in there nicely using the XIGMATEK HDT-D1284..it has four 8MM heatpipes...i replaced the fan with a higher volume Panaflo fan, 2.7K....temps are running 62C outside of the case on the bench with about 1.35 for Vcore.

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

biostar keeps right up with the X48T board and it is running at half the link speed...i'd say biostar did a darn good job of engineering this board for half the price!

superpi runs for the next post.

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@ace,
really appreciate this review your spending so much time with. you're the man. :up:

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Originally Posted by NormanABates

@ace,
really appreciate this review your spending so much time with. you're the man. :up:

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thanks for the vote.:)

here are two hours of Prime 95 @ 4255 Mhz (i don't believe in 8, 16 or 24 hour runs..to me, it is absurd:shrug:)...the E8500 handled much better on this board than the GA-X48T-DQ6 (DDR3) board at about the same Mhz...the Vcore to hold the E8500 was less on the biostar...i have it set to about 1.35 in the bios...in windows it says 1.36v...still have not found a reading point for an actual DMM reading....kind of hard to get around the heatsink to test the various resistors sitting around the cpu socket.

Biostar's Tpower software, if fairly accurate, says 1.36v for idle and when i load up the two cores, it drops to 1.336, which is a Vdroop of 0.024v...that is not bad for Vdroop..even with the gigabyte X48 board, which had Loadline enabled, it still dropped about 0.025 under full load....all in all, this one of the better price point boards around for the P45 chipset...it is now selling at newegg with an instant $25 discount....man, it is a good deal...check it out!

also, i just had run setup again since i put to many dings on XP...i just did the repair feature...NOW...how many boards will allow you to run a setup at 420 FSb @ 9X = 3780 Mhz with all the voltages set to "AUTO"...i'd say PRETTY nice!!:up:

Thanks Ace for the review. Best-bang-for-the-buck mb.
I'll be looking at this board when the 4870x2 comes out.

it is the best-bang-for-the-buck!:up:

Ace-a-Rue, nice work so far. I was wondering if you could share your bios settings. Are use using one of the pre-set "DDR2 RCOMP Configuration" settings or auto for your 2x2GB sticks?

yes, i am using "number 3" for "DDR2 RCOMP Configuration"...i found that is the best setting for my GSKill DDR-6400 memory...it looks like the max stable for me (without using to much voltage) is about 1030 Mhz...that is at 8.5X or 4382 Mhz (E8500).

i will work up the bios settings that i am using in a day or so.

For all those guys having problems with Gigabyte EP45 boards with PCIe 2.0 video cards, this board post to boot without any hitches...i had one time a video corruption after installing the driver but as soon as i rebooted in windows safe mode and then rebooted back into windows desktop, it worked perfectly...the corruption occurred after i repaired the windows install since i had many dings on the operating system as i was trying to find the limits.

my video card is an EVGA 9800 GTX

man i hope my tp45hp im getting in the mail today is as good as the tpower. nice stable board from the looks of it. i always like biostar this will be my 3rd 775 biostar board and all of them overclocked like mad.

what does this board have over the P5Q-E and Pro?

I have ordered one of this, had to induce my favorite webshop NetShop AS (Norway) to import this one, hoping this motherboard will be a hit in Norway too! Can't wait until i get it!

~ Mortis360

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what does this board have over the P5Q-E and Pro?

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lots of world records! :) It's got a great bios and can be tuned to super high freq.

Day to day I wouldn't say it's anything out of this world. I'd take my DFI LP UT P35 over this for memory tuning and 24/7 use. But for high freq and WRs fahgetaboutit, this is the board.

i can't talk comfortably about the P5Q-E since i am not that familiar with the board.

the Tpower board is easy to get high overclocks once you take the memory out of SPD and start setting them independently...you don't have to change much; two or three settings...i will give you them later...not feeling very good at the moment....of course, i only used PC6400 memory...if you got some PC9600 (DDR 1200 Mhz) that will open it to very high FSB's.

my max FSB with the highest useable multi is 8.5x and 515 FSB on my E8500...that gave me 4382 Mhz.

the board is engineered well, IMO...the TPower software that changes voltages and FSB in windows desktop works good...the only thing, do NOT do "multiple" clicks on the "Plus" or "Minus" signs, just click ONCE if you want to make a change...there is about a 5 second lag for resultant increase or decrease to show up...once you see it show up and you want more or less, click it but only once each time and then wait (that's my recommendation)...i did it a few times in a row for vcore and the next thing i knew, it shutdown...just a warning to the wise.

the other thing i like about it for the TPower model is the extra 70 mm cooling fan plus a vertical heatsink that comes with it to add (screw it on) additional cooling capacity for the PWM area...the fan appears to be a delta fan because of the whine at full speed...it is a little noisy when it is running at 4.5K rpm but you have a fan header that is controllable from the bios to set a range of temps for hi/lo which in turn reduce or increase the rpm as temperature changes...i have mine setup at about 2.8K for idle.

another thing: the bios has the capability to save as many 10 different CMOS settings, so, you can try various overclocks and if it fails, the board will reset itself...in that condition, you have to re-enter the bios and recall a good overclock setting and start over again making your changes.

the only draw back that i see at the moment is for the monster 9800 GTX cards which overlaps the backside of the board...my 9800 goes right over the middle of the Sata Ports so you would need to hook the Sata cables in first before inserting the VC...be aware that the ports are configured at 90 degress so the plug-in openings will be facing to the rear of the case....i am sure other people will find other little nagging annoyances about placement of certain ports, but not evey board is perfect unless you pay $400 for it!;)

i thought these were fairly good for the board...they beat my gigabyte X48T-DQ6.

i'll eventually put up a memory bench sometime tomorrow.

you have to LOVE this board...this is a new personal high in Mhz for this E8500!

currently running 32M and then i will continue soaring in Mhz if that is successful...but, i think i am at the max for my memory, which is not to bad for PC6400 memory.

Why is the highest usable mp 8.5, E8500 uses 9.5 doesnt it ?

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Originally Posted by Sniper

Why is the highest usable mp 8.5, E8500 uses 9.5 doesnt it ?

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i use 8.5x or 8x (even 7.5x) to attain the highest FSB...understand?:up:

Once again Ace, you are THE MAN.
Thanks for the review and info.

i am having fun with the board!

my only disappointment is not having better rated ram...i do have some TeamXtreme PC8000 stuff but it will not do any better than my Gskill PC6400...maybe it will get about 5 mhz better on the FSB.

i am having a little trouble with the nomenclature of the voltages, its different than most other boards i have used. which is vtt?

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Originally Posted by politenessman

i am having a little trouble with the nomenclature of the voltages, its different than most other boards i have used. which is vtt?

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under the category of "O.N.E." which is your overclock settings.

you have to be in "Manual Overclock" to see the sub setting of "Voltage Configuration"

from there you enter and you have three sub categories covering "VTT":

1) CPU CORE1 GTL REF VOLTAGE
2) CPU CORE2 GTL REF VOLTAGE
3) MCH GTL REF VOLTAGE

the Core VTT's are apparent to what can be set. (i would start with 63% for 45 nm CPU's)

the MCH VTT. (you have AUTO, or, 4 different settings if you come out of the auto setting...my recommendation: stay in auto)

no, i mean just the vtt voltage setting. is it the fsb voltage, or the pll voltage. i am assuming that the chipset voltage is for the northbridge. in other bios's the vtt voltage is called, appropriately, vtt voltage. not here tho.


edit - ok now i dig. there is a reference terminal voltage thats probably around 1.2v that i could adjust (if i were so inclined) by using the percentages given.

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

i use 8.5x or 8x (even 7.5x) to attain the highest FSB...understand?:up:

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Sure, just wonderd since you began talking about ram holding you back.
But, keep up the god work, might buy this board.

can someone please post their mem settings for 600+ fsb using D9GMH?

Thanks!

what kind of fsb you could expect with faster 4GB kit?

right now, i would say between 550-570 FSB with the right cpu and memory unless you go extreme cooling...the higher you get the FSB and system bus the faster your L2 cache will work; that improves the write and copy speed...read speed increases but not as dramatic.

it looks like 520 FSB @ 8.5x = 4420 Mhz, for E8500, is my good working frequency...it is a happy balance of being able to run all three 3D benches...3D2005 bench is apparently very stressful on the CPU in one of the sub-benches and it won't complete unless you have enough Vcore...that is where i stop...i try not to go very high on the 45nm cpu's in addition to the FSB voltage.

it looks like the bios has an OVP circuit design for 45nm cpus to stop at going over 1.40v...everything saves perfectly until i try to raise the Vcore to 1.45v...when i attempt to do that, it will not save and then i have to recall my previous settings...BUT...not all is lost since their Windows based TPower2 software will raise the voltage above 1.40v...it might just be a bios quirk since the NB Voltage has the same behavior once going above 1.40v...i hope Biostar engineers correct that since there are tons of voltage increases above those points...it absolutely does not make any sense to have all those additonal voltage settings available if you are stopped because they don't want you to go above a certain actual bios voltage for Vcore or NB...me thinks;), there is sort of a "black hole" in the bios code for the next stepping above 1.40v actual vcore...i'll try a bigger jump than 0.50 to see if it still fails to save correctly.

i will eventually do a tech report...i believe there is an option for that with their software.

just a starter:

Cant wait until i get my hands on this board, coming to Norway about 12th Aug, should be here before friday that week. Got an E6420 that stops at 400x8 which is boring, I can get it to 425x8, but then I need 1,5V (Mobo V), 1,63 irl volts. How is volt in BIOS compared to the real volt? Got some tips about clocking with this card? Maybe a little guide?

~ Mortis360

this covers almost the entire page of timings...i will post the bottom part shortly.

self-evident.

this should be it for the meantime.

wow man,AMAZING REVIEW.i have this board and swapped it out from my nightmare evga 750i ftw mobo.didnt look back for a second and its a complete dream on my watercooled e8400 at 3.6 stock voltage(sets automatically to 1.27) and (watercooled)nb manual at 1.224.ddr2 800 4-4-4-12 800(nothing fancy(cell shock ddr1000 d9ghkx sticks)2.0 volts.tweaking ram now,was running ddr 960 4-3-4-9 no problem for a few days but think slight voltage tweaks are needed for complete stabilty.regardless the board is simply amazing,just like biostars amazing 965pt i thought was thee best headache free clocking dual core mobo out for the conroe 965 chipset days.


i would really like to see ace do some moderate STABLE quad core clocks,gives me a real good idea how the 8phase power can push a 45nm quad.9550 would be the ideal chip(cpu)i would love to see tested.i know some other $200+ 45 chipset mobos use 12-16 phase power and think they might prevail over this board because of this fact,could be wrong..we will just have to see.

again man AMAZING review.keep it up please and dont let this thread die anytime so0n,im learning so much by all your hard work u put into this,ty.

railmeat-
quake(3,4) still lives on!!


few pics on my water,biosatr i45 tpower mobo,evga gtx-280 in,single raptor-150x,coolermaster 1250 pro,

3 x 2 gig kits i own\use (6gig total to play with)

cellshock ddr1000 (d9ghkx,yes the good stuff barely used at all) there in now.i am certain in this mobo with more time this
combo ram\mobo can scream stably very high\tight timings with min voltage needed.

my other 2 gig kits(2x1gig sticks)

ocz sli 1066- these sticks always run amazing for some reason

supertalent cheapy blue ddr 800 kit

(both 2,3rd kits are d9ghm sticks)


yes thats a danger den ati rd600nb block with very LITTLE enlarging of holes for a purfect fit on the i45nb.and modified danger den socket 939 cpu block with chrome multi socket adapter.was thinking about cooling the card but the gtx-280 runs at amazing 41c with my 120mmsunon and 2x80 sunnon hi rpm fans killing it with airflow.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/2-1.jpg



http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/3-3.jpg

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older mobo but u see my video card air cooling solution i still swear by

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...gotcooling.jpg

E8500 (BATCH: Q803A706; PACK DATE: 04/15/08)
GSKILL PC6400 2 X 2GB KIT
EVGA 9800 GTX (512 mb)
ARECA 1210 8X PCIe RAID (w/500 MHZ I/O CPU AND 256 ECC SDRAM)
TWO W/D VELOCI-RAPTOR (300g PER) DRIVES
XIGMATEK (direct touch) HDT-D1284 CPU COOLER w/PANAFLO 120X38MM 2.7K RPM FAN

QX9650 will be up next...in a few days:)

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wow man,AMAZING REVIEW.

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thanks for the vote of confidence!:up:

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few pics on my water,biosatr i45 tpower mobo,evga gtx-280 in,single raptor-150x,coolermaster 1250 pro,


older mobo but u see my video card air cooling solution i still swear by

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...gotcooling.jpg

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i see you got the air cooling crazies like myself!:D

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i see you got the air cooling crazies like myself!:D

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lol yep always did,currently running 14 case f@nz +water.few diff air shots on diff setups.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...termodding.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/88002.jpg

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pretty good at PL=9

Ace,
could u comment on were the cas 4 slower ram speed vs cas 5 higher ram speed wins.and when the performance leans heavier each way.

this is were im at slowly working my ram up to as hi as cas 4 will stably allow with a decent cpu clock...3.6+

example-im thinking dd850-900+ speed cas 4 CRUSHES any cas 5 ddr`1000-to bout 1150 speed with way LESS voltage then i think the cas 5 1150+ speeds pull ahead performance wise over the slower cas 4?????is my mindset accurate ,if not please explain were the perfomance table breaks at.ty..

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i know that ddr900+ using cas 4 crushes ddr1100+ cas5,u actually have to go past ddr1150 to beat out the cas4 ddr900+ speed ...

thoughts,suggestions please?!?!

this is were im at now slowly priming away

using cell shock ddr 1000 2x1 gig kit d9ghkx(the good stuff)
ram cooling--2x40mm hi rpm sunnon fans blasting them down with air.

--current cfg----

cpu speed - 3.65ghz (450x8.5) -auto volts,sets to 1.28

ram ddr860 4-4-4-12 <--trying to get highest STABLE cas 4 speed,love the 1\2 cpu multis i can use in conjunction with my ram\cpu clock speeds and gives some killer ram divider speed options.

cpu 3.65---auto-- volts going to 1.28

*temps-
prime small ffts\blend

biostar temp moniter program--29c idle\66c load

real temp --idle wierd locked bug\load72c

*ram v 2.176--

*nb-1.224

*fsb term v-1.24
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my overclocking STABLE test method-
run a quick hour of prime(passing) then play quake4 or bf2 for MANY HOURS,then if its GAME stable then prime it for 8hrs.pretty simple and very effective.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...ut/priming.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...ut/priming.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/1-1.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/2-1.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/3-3.jpg

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the battle over cas 4 and cas 5 is useless battle...what you really want is Mhz, crunching power!...it really doesn not make any sense to sacrifice crunching power for ability to move data a little faster.

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the battle over cas 4 and cas 5 is useless battle...what you really want is Mhz, crunching power!...it really doesn not make any sense to sacrifice crunching power for ability to move data a little faster.

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"the battle over cas 4 and cas 5 is useless battle...what you really want is Mhz, crunching power!..."

hmm-
i read alot of big tonys comments threw the years and i went with cas 4 hi as i could get on ram\mobo combos and it worked out well espiacally with 1t.have u seen the 1t command rate in bios???

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i read alot of big tonys comments threw the years and i went with cas 4 hi as i could get on ram\mobo combos and it worked out well espiacally with 1t.have u seen the 1t command rate in bios???

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are you kidding about 1T!?:eek:...1T is fine if your ram can handle it like cell-shock memory, but the less expensive stuff has a more difficult time.

1T usually only gives you about 2% to 3% jump in data moving speeds...remember, tony is in the business to promote OCZ memory..that is his main concern; to work out problems with mobo makers to make sure OCZ memory will work...he knows how to maximize memory performance!...i think most of us inferior mortals;) need to work on maximizing MHZ first, then, work on maximizing your memory performance...sometimes there is a happy balance where you can back down on the Mhz by 50 or 100, to allow tighter memory settings that gives good overall performance.

the big change for intel will be the nehalem cpu comes with the MCH right on the CPU die..then, all things change for intel performance.

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are you kidding about 1T!?:eek:...1T is fine if your ram can handle it like cell-shock memory, but the less expensive stuff has a more difficult time.

1T usually only gives you about 2% to 3% jump in data moving speeds...remember, tony is in the business to promote OCZ memory..that is his main concern; to work out problems with mobo makers to make sure OCZ memory will work...he knows how to maximize memory performance!...i think most of us inferior mortals;) need to work on maximizing MHZ first, then, work on maximizing your memory performance...sometimes there is a happy balance where you can back down on the Mhz by 50 or 100, to allow tighter memory settings that gives good overall performance.

the big change for intel will be the nehalem cpu comes with the MCH right on the CPU die..then, all things change for intel performance.

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were is 1t option in 80015 bios ???????

i never look to set 1T...almost everytime i make sure 2T is set...as i look, i see no setting for Command Rate...but...there is that DDR Recomp Configuration and that might be it just disguised....i know only number 3 works for me.

this is at 4425 mhz...currently running set up on the Seagate drives @ 4425 Mhz...hanging right in there.

after completing setup on the Seagate's and running a few benches to make sure W/D Veloci-Rapto 10K RPM drives add no significant increase in overall performance, i will switch out the E8500 with my QX9650 and re-run everything again.

here are four video benches using the Veloci-Raptor drives:

Ace-a-Rue, first of all, thanks for the good review!

Have You measured drop and vdroop with DMM in different Vcore areas (for example 1,30V, 1,40V and 1,50V set in BIOS)?

to difficult, at the moment, to find the correct resistor to read for Vcore...just from measuring the Vdimm, the bios ouput reading was spot on with the DMM reading...i am going to say it is the same from windows through their TPower2 software...looking at idle Vcore and then full load Vcore, the Vdroop is 0.024v...not bad for an E8500...true test will come when i switch out to my QX9650.

What about coil legs otherside board near socket?

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What about coil legs otherside board near socket?

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damn, trying to find your vcore readout, the positive probe slipped and touched another unknown part and then, the board shutdown...now it won't start up...DARN!:mad:

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the board shutdown...now it won't start up...DARN!:mad:

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Oh no!!

Ups :mad:
Sorry about that :(

it was against my better judgement since i do know accidents can happen...won't make that mistake again...not your fault, it was my slip-up.

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it was against my better judgement since i do know accidents can happen...won't make that mistake again...not your fault, it was my slip-up.

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o lord,thought the biostar temp proggie was pretty much dead nuts on as far as voltages went.seemed like it to me,compared side by side to cpuz etc.
:shakes:sorry to hear.

aaah, knew better but the other guy wanted to know...i thought it was accurate but wanted to attempt to pin that down...so...i pinned the board down right into not working;)...lesson learned; the hard way!

progress so far ddr8800 cas 4-4-4-12 vdimm 2.176 -----cpu 3.75ghz (440x8) auto voltage = 1.28.

now going for 3.8 900 cas 4-4-4-12 2.2 volts max im thinking,this must be prime stable\game stable

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...ddr880cas4.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...ddr880cas4.jpg

Anyone got settings for 4-4-4-12 PL7 stable > 500fsb (for wolfdale)?

I had them at one point but can't seem to get it back today. I think it's the wrong Rcomp config. If I get it I'll post it here. I think for some of us it's important to find efficient settings / tight timings and trd. Maybe only a few of us, but in my case, I want to get as efficient as possible before I take it under cold for benching.

I'm comparing results with DFI LP UT P35. Testing with 1m for efficiency using similar settings gets me close when I can get 44412 trd 7, but like I said above it's failing today.

Overall this board is great. I've been able to get it up to 6.1ghz+ with e8400. 1m 7.81s. e86 will do way better.

My only gripes so far are small lack of efficiency, large grain vcore options.

did you mod the board to cutout the OVP?

4-4-4-12 & PL=7 is very tight settings for 500 FSB..per chance, are you using cell-shock memory?

No mod, I had no probs with OVP at all. I had actually had it up to -160c and 2.05vcore lol. It's really amazing this board, especially the price, speed and durability.

The memory is 2 kits Gskill, 1 Team and 1 mushkin, all with D9GMH ics. Probably not for the average settings, but I'm not opposed to throwing voltage at my ram. It's held up fine too. I've ran a D9 kit at 2.23v for over a year at 1000mhz 44412. It's a breeze to run those settings on the DFI, I'm sure I can get it back on this board too.

Nice review and thread by the way. :) This board needed a good thread for more than just benchers.

What about the RAID option on this board? Did you guys are using RAID on it? I saw that you Ace-a-Rue was using Areca cards to do RAID, but can i use, the board have native RAID option??

i presume the intel raid option would work very WELL!...everytime that i used it on other boards, it performed very nicely!:up:

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No mod, I had no probs with OVP at all. I had actually had it up to -160c and 2.05vcore lol. It's really amazing this board, especially the price, speed and durability.

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what bios were you using then?

if you had no problem with that vcore then maybe my board had a defect...i had the 710 bios!

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Nice review and thread by the way. :) This board needed a good thread for more than just benchers.

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thanks!:)...i had the same impression as i reviewed other threads before starting this one!:up: