THE Best Watercooling on the earth.

On this page you can read one review for one of the best stock watercooling:
http://www.comexgroup.com/technologi.../swc_water.htm
The LANGUAGE is bulgarian,but you can see the temps and a pictures of watercooling.
It cost around 150$,but it damm crazy.If someone want's this cooling he can connect with the people who bilds this rig on sugar4o@abv.bg
I wait to view your opinion.

First...Welcome to Xtreme:D
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I can't read the text, but from the temps, it can't be "stock" watercooling...not at -46c idle temps? It must be thermo electric, evaporative or some sort of chiller to hit those temps.

They're not minus temps dude..... that's just the spacer used inbetween the different values ;)

I think that some sites have a translator to english,somebody can try to find a place where you can translate the text from bulgarian to english.
I want to know what do you think about this cooling when you see the pictures and the system.The temps are:
ASUS A7N8X
AMD AthlonXP 2000+ TbredB
2x256MB TwinMOS PC3700 TwiSTER
80GB Seagate 7200.7 HDD
Leadtek GF4 MX440 64MB
300W Fortron PSU
WindowsXP + SP1
room temp~22C
2200MHz, 1.8V 25Ñ idle, 28C 100% load
2200MHz, 1.9V 26C idle, 29C 100% load
2300MHz, 1.9V 28C idle, 31C 100% load

ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe
Intel P4 2.4C GHz/800FSB - 2 ïðîöåñîðÃ:banana:
2x256MB PC3700 TwiSTER DDR
80GB Seagate 7200.7 HDD
Leadtek GF4 MX440 64MB
300W Fortron PSU
WindowsXP + SP1
room temp ~22C
3400MHz, 1.45V 38Ñ idle, 41C 100% load
3600MHz, 1.45V 39C idle, 42C 100% load
3700MHz, 1.45V 39C idle, 42C 100% load
3700MHz, 1.55V - 41C idle, 45C 100% load

The watercooling can be done if you want more powerfull,it can be added a different blocks and more fans on a radiator.
I post this thread because i want to know did i must bay this ccoling.

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Originally posted by tc_overclocker
They're not minus temps dude..... that's just the spacer used inbetween the different values ;)

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LOL....OK Thanks....makes more sense! :doh:

great temps on your AMD system. i can't judge your p4 system cuz i've never really owned one =>

pretty nice...

do they have a online shop? or goin to have 1?

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This temps is not been done on my system.This temp i take from the watercool review.My question is what do you think about this cooling.

well if u like the external stuff... i like mine inside...

temps r ok ... well if u dont chill your water u wont get better temps than ambient + 5-10 (maybe im wrong...)

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They dont have on online shop,but if you want to connect whit the bilders of this cooling for take a other info for this cooling you can find them on sugar4o@abv.bg .In the review was tested the base model ot the cooling,but if you want you must say to the developers of the cooling that you want a different waterblocks like White water LR are somethink else.

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OK now, the review was done by me.... as you can compare the review link and the site name in my signature :D

I was really amaized by the temps made with the AMD system... and the waterblock was optimized to run on an AMD system.... but 31C under load with a plain water @2300MHz/1.9V.... that's really a high up in the ranks for me...

The cooling costs about 100E in the shape you saw In the review pictures...
Online shop is not available for now and shipping that in USA will be quite expensive.... Europe is more acceptable...

then now a question my air cooled stuff can run my p42.6@3.45 1.7 volts idle 24 full load 35 at 20 room temp can we say that i dont need i watercooling system cause i my air is good as it

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Originally posted by kromosto
then now a question my air cooled stuff can run my p42.6@3.45 1.7 volts idle 24 full load 35 at 20 room temp can we say that i dont need i watercooling system cause i my air is good as it

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Well honestly...... that's some damn fine AIR.... @ those MHz and volts.... are you sure, that the reading is correct?
And what's that for an AIR cooling? :)

if asus probe is not liying then they are true :)

cnps6000cu with 3 fans blowing on it as ceramique as compound and open case of couse

Look at the volts used in that screen shot.

3.7Ghz @ 1.488v @ 42c

The sub pump adds a few degrees to the water too

Nice design, looks like it is worth the money compared to other similar type setups on the market. But I dont think anyone will match the SS overclock unless feeding it AC blasting in the side of that radiator.

Damn nice chip to do 3.7Ghz with less than stock voltage.

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Originally posted by FUGGER
Look at the volts used in that screen shot.

3.7Ghz @ 1.488v @ 42c

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Yeah, and if you check the MBM5 readings you'll see 1.44V Vcore.... now which one is right then? :cool:

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I was really amaized by the temps made with the AMD system... and the waterblock was optimized to run on an AMD system.... but 31C under load with a plain water @2300MHz/1.9V.... that's really a high up in the ranks for me...

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Well obviously those are unrealistic temps and the ASUS probe is reporting way too low values.
Even if the water would be at room temp (which again is not possible since the CPU is putting out over 100W) the 31C CPU temp is impossible. That would mean a C/W value of 0.08. Even the thermal resistance between CPU core and block base is more than that. So even if the block base temp would have been at room temp (=waterblock C/w rating of 0.0.. impossible) its just not possible to get a CPU die temp of 31C.

Same thing with the P4C800 temp readings.. those are not realistic either. [I take this statement back, those are quite ok temps :)]

I am in no way saying that the cooling system tested is poor or anything like that. In fact it seems very good :)
Its just that you cant really compare temp readings given by motherboards as there are (in some cases) more than 20C difference between different mobos.. in some cases even the same mobo models may give more than 10C difference in CPU temp reading.

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air cooled stuff can run my p42.6@3.45 1.7 volts idle 24 full load 35 at 20 room temp

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Can you say miscalibration of temp sensor? :D

Here is a very good article on CPU temps and C/W values etc.

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Originally posted by macci
Well obviously those are unrealistic temps and the ASUS probe is reporting way too low values.

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Well at first I was thinking tha same as you're... and then I put some air cooling to test it.... well with the GlacialTech Igloo 2450Pro I was in low-mid 50Cs under load a minute after..... and then a BSOD....

And with the P4 is tha same... hitting low 50Cs if the fan ain't @full RPM.... Tt SmartFAN II.....

But I don't think that 3700MHz/1.45V and 42C can't be real... that's really low voltage....

The P4C800 reading is far more realistic yes.

But the 31C on AMD is just way too low.

3700/1.44 = 93W (88% output)
2300/1.90 = 109W (88% output)

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i was suspecting that kind of thing too but is there anything that i can do to calibrate that sensor or another way to take the real heat of the cpu

by the way my heatsink doesnt get a little bit warm whem at idle or at load i was using same cooler stuff with p42.0a @2.8 with p4sdx at that set up heatsink becomes hot at load so its certain that my new system is very very cool compairing to that system and can anybody advice me what watt pelt to use with setups cpu and 9700pro

vutov, Did you read anything I just wrote?
The dang asus mobo reads the die temp incorrectly.

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Yeah macci, 31C is really to low for a 100W CPU.... but..... A7N8X is about the only MB here, that reports on-die temps and shows such a difference between water and AIR...

And I won't test water cooling with a socket termistor readings ;)

The mobo readings are very ok as long as you test all cooling devices using the very same mobo. But the problem is that its next to impossible to compare the results to any other cooling setup unless the very same mobo is being used to take the temp readings.
Its obviously far better than an aircooled setup...but thats quite obvious isn't it? :)
But rite now its impossible to tell wheter this cooler is 'the best watercooling on earth' or just another average/good watercooling setup.

now these temps and my temps are wrong thas ok but
macci do you advice me to buy this watercooling

my worng temps as 24 at idle 35 at load and this watercoolings are as you see will this give me a better cooling as bulgaria is our neighbour i can easilly get one i think

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macci,yes i read what you wrote.

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macci,yes i read what you wrote.

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Well said Vutov :D

Wow...lots of vowels.:D

Come on talk about this watercooling.

vutov,

I am still trying to translate the webpage. I use magic translator, but it does not translate bulgarian. :(

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Originally posted by vutov

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macci,yes i read what you wrote.

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Ã�èêúäå Ã:banana:Ã¥ ñúì êÃ:banana:çÃ:banana:ë, ֌ ìåðè ãðåøÃ:banana:î.... macci êÃ:banana:çÃ:banana:, ֌ ìåðè ãðåøÃ:banana:î, Ã:banana:ç êÃ:banana:çÃ:banana:õ, ֌ äÃ:banana:âÃ:banana: äîñòÃ:banana: Ã:banana:èñêè òåìïåðÃ:banana:òóðè. Ã�ðÃ:banana:âè ðÃ:banana:çëèêÃ:banana:!
ÇÃ:banana: ãîðäååÃ:banana:åòî, ֌ ñè áúëãÃ:banana:ðèÃ:banana: äÃ:banana:é äÃ:banana: Ã:banana:Ã¥ ïî÷âÃ:banana:ìå òóêÃ:banana:, ֌ Ã:banana:Ã¥ ìó Ã¥ ìÿñòîòî. A åäÃ:banana:î Ã¥ òóð÷èÃ:banana: èëè ãðúê äÃ:banana: èñêÃ:banana: ( äåòî ñÃ:banana: Ã:banana:Ã:banana: åäèÃ:banana: êóð ìåñòî ), åäÃ:banana:î Ã¥ Ã:banana:Ã:banana:ðîäÃ:banana: îò ùÃ:banana:òèòå èëè "âèñîêÃ:banana:òÃ:banana:" ÅâðîïÃ:banana: Ã:banana:Ã:banana: 3000-4000êì....
Ã�î ìîåòî ìîì÷å, òè ñå èçëÃ:banana:ãÃ:banana:ø â ìîìåÃ:banana:òÃ:banana:.

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Originally posted by macci

But rite now its impossible to tell wheter this cooler is 'the best watercooling on earth' or just another average/good watercooling setup.

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Yeah, my point also.... based on one review of a single wc setup you can't say wheater it's the best or not.... but it's quite good at least to say :)

TheDude, I'll try to translate it for ya all, but it won't be easy... it's quite a lot of text.

Thanks TodB :D

I think somebody should send that kit to www.overclockers.com for a review as they use the same testing methods (die simulator) for all watercooling kits (and they have tested a whole bunch of those). So you could actually compare it against other watercooling kits. Would be interesting to see how it performs.

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Originally posted by macci
I think somebody should send that kit to www.overclockers.com for a review as they use the same testing methods (die simulator) for all watercooling kits (and they have tested a whole bunch of those). So you could actually compare it against other watercooling kits. Would be interesting to see how it performs.

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Well that will be quite hard to do..... cuz all that is made with the spare money of the maker..... :rolleyes:
I don't think that Ivo has that much money right now....