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AMD 790GX lineup
With the AMD790GX launch just around the corner, maybe is good to know who of mobo makers will be ready and with what kind of ammo...
With the courtesy of Fudzilla, Xfastest, Expreview and VR-Zone, here are all know 790GX mainbards in one place:
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...7878&Itemid=61
http://www.fudzilla.com/images/stori...us_m3a78-t.jpg http://www.fudzilla.com/images/stori...onn_a7da-s.jpg
http://www.fudzilla.com/images/stori...790gx-m2rs.jpg http://www.fudzilla.com/images/stori...gx-digital.jpg
http://resources.vr-zone.com//eventp...d/IMG_0607.jpg
You all remember how Sapphire cloned DFI's 790X mobo! This time around Albatron has done same thing with the 790GX! They didn't even bother to change color of PCB, or the color of slots:
http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/Comp...ds/5837-4.html
http://resources.vr-zone.com//eventp...d/IMG_0583.jpg
From the "big four" club here's missing Gigabyte:
http://www.xfastest.com/viewthread.php?tid=10480
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/Gig...gb790_0012.jpg
Finally we must not forget Unika (This will be Jetway branded, and possible Sapphire, to)
http://en.expreview.com/2008/04/15/7...y-pics-leaked/
http://en.expreview.com/img/2008/04/16/790gx-1.jpg
Layout and PWM vise Unikas mobo does look most impressive... but due inability to get that mobo in this part of the world, I'll be aiming on DFI, or J&W (hopefully we'll have picture of it soon ;))
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I like any board that keeps an open PCIeX1 slot available AFTER you install a dual slot GPU. I have a 4870 and plan on getting at least one PCIeX1 card I know of this year. I also wonder if the PCIe lanes to the onboard GPU can be disabled to allow for two full x16 PCIe2.0 slots for an x16/x16 Crossfire setup. I want to avoid x16/x8 or x8/x8 configurations because it actually impacts some games greatly.
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i'm waiting for the jetway or if they put out a biostar but i'm not holding my breath on them they never put out a 790 series board in the first place....
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Nice! I'm eagerly waiting for the DFI LANParty UT 790FXB-M2RS. :D
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Whats going on with only having X8 PCI-E slots :confused:
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Originally Posted by
Final8ty
Whats going on with only having X8 PCI-E slots :confused:
...because the 790GX is (just) an overclocked 780G. If you want 2x16 buy 790FX(+SB750).
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Need Micro ATX, these boards look good though.
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Originally Posted by
BakerT
Need Micro ATX, these boards look good though.
http://www.pcghx.com/screenshots/ori...6/DSC_7923.jpg
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Originally Posted by
Oliverda
Nice! I'm eagerly waiting for the DFI LANParty UT 790FXB-M2RS. :D
the 790FS boards from DFI didn't clock any better than the MSI or Asus boards (i think the clocked worse in fact) for now i'm sticking with Biostar, jetway and MSI seems to be making a comeback in the oc'ing arena remember the K&N2 delta :D god that was a beast
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Do these support 45nm.
Perkam
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I imagine they would. Even 790FX and 780G boards do.
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even the original AM2 boards will "support" 45nm its a question of the mobo manufactures updating the BIOS on them
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Isn't that what he asked?
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Originally Posted by
Particle
Isn't that what he asked?
yea i wasn't contadicting you
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I want these boards to be released so bad! it's the only reason I haven't pulled the trigger on the 9950 just yet I'm really hoping for 3.5~3.8ghz!
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Originally Posted by
ChristmasGT
I want these boards to be released so bad! it's the only reason I haven't pulled the trigger on the 9950 just yet I'm really hoping for 3.5~3.8ghz!
:welcome: Bud....
The X4 is a really underated chip, it's actually quite capable even at 2.8!! ;)
We're all hoping for a better OC with the SB750, but you may have your hopes too high if your expecting 3.5~3.8Ghz!!
That being said, unless your all into E-Penis benchmark points, Phenom will serve you quite well, and they are a whole lot more fun, from an overclockers standpoint (massive things to tweak!). We're all looking for that last little bit!
I hope I'm wrong, but I think it will be awhile before we see common 3.5Ghz X4's
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Cooper
Nice one !
Should be under ~150 in the "Infinity" range/level
Note the "780g" markings at the bottom,:confused:
Definitely enough power connectors, ;)
Some of the "fan connectors" near the PCIe slots only look like fan connectors;)
Is there 2 "floppy" type connectors there? like the M2R , can't see.
Dave is bang on, I turn mine all the way down to 1000 when idling still can't see the difference
it's "wide"-?:confused::D
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side by side
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Soo any news when are these babes going to be released.... ?:shrug:
I'm waiting for ages and i don't want to go intel..... :down: please if someone got some info post it ;)
Edit: OMFG my first post :o
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Originally Posted by
Daveburt714
:welcome: Bud....
The X4 is a really underated chip, it's actually quite capable even at 2.8!! ;)
We're all hoping for a better OC with the SB750, but you may have your hopes too high if your expecting 3.5~3.8Ghz!!
That being said, unless your all into E-Penis benchmark points, Phenom will serve you quite well, and they are a whole lot more fun, from an overclockers standpoint (massive things to tweak!). We're all looking for that last little bit!
I hope I'm wrong, but I think it will be awhile before we see common 3.5Ghz X4's
I'm not to big in the benchmark dept. Been with AMD since I built my first rig and am going to stick w/ em. I've been debating lately on the 9850 or the 9950, I know the TDP is higher on the 9950 and will probably be easier to hit 3.0+
I'm really curious to hear how much of A difference the 6 pins connected to the Southbridge is going to make, i've heard from 200~400mhz ontop of an OC, i'm very eager to find out
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Originally Posted by
Cooper
There we go! The perfect Micro ATX board.
That for the link Cooper.
Its think its about time I go AMD again...
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Originally Posted by
KiLLBiLLBG
Soo any news when are these babes going to be released.... ?:shrug:
I'm waiting for ages and i don't want to go intel..... :down: please if someone got some info post it ;)
Edit: OMFG my first post :o
with in the next 10-15 days...
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Here is a newer pic of the biostar from ocworkbench,
http://my.ocworkbench.com/bbs/attach...6&d=1216626937
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No plans for a four-slotter (PCIe)?
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GOD DAMMIT (no pun intended) JUST GET 'EM OUT AMD! >.<
I want to install XP on my Phenom rig, and cant do until I replace this DFI DK 790FX....
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Originally Posted by
D-Cyph3r
I want to install XP on my Phenom rig, and cant do until I replace this DFI DK 790FX....
why wanna replace the dfi mate?
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I only bought it as a temporary board to test all the other hardware (b-grade, under £50), waiting on the SB750 boards for the final build+OS install. ;)
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Originally Posted by
Particle
No plans for a four-slotter (PCIe)?
Not on the GX line.
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wow that one still uses a switch
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:( only 4 way standard pwm on the dfi..
i wanna see 790FXB as well :cry:
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SupoX has quite interesting layout:
http://my.ocworkbench.com/2008/supox...GTR%20copy.jpg
Obviously they've placed NB and SB next to each other! Mybe that'll yield some better OC'ong capabilities due to shorter traces?
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the ECS 780G black series sucked hopefully this one will have options for chipset volts
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And here is an exclusive photo of the AMD RS780D+SB750 reference board
http://netpilot.at.tut.by/work/rs780dsb750refboard.jpg
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Originally Posted by
cdawall
the ECS 780G black series sucked hopefully this one will have options for chipset volts
ECS is on this planet to make cheap motherboards and options cost money.
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Originally Posted by
MrMojoZ
ECS is on this planet to make cheap motherboards and options cost money.
i know that but the black series was supposed to be there oc'ing series and i find no chipset volts as a major let down...
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Originally Posted by
cdawall
i know that but the black series was supposed to be there oc'ing series and i find no chipset volts as a major let down...
I doubt you will need chipset voltage
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Originally Posted by
Tony
I doubt you will need chipset voltage
if you plan to use the onboard vga and want to have some fun oc'ing it then yea you do if you don't plan to use that part of the board at all why would you get a GX?
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Originally Posted by
cdawall
i know that but the black series was supposed to be there oc'ing series and i find no chipset volts as a major let down...
They have had "high end" boards in the past which came in shiny shiny boxes but were still low quality parts. I have no issue with ECS if you want bargin basement, but I would not trust them to make a product where quality control mattered.
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Originally Posted by
VVJ
I'm not one to usually care about a motherboards look, but that's quite the ugly board. :p Has a kind of old-school look about it.
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I had to do the same thing and put a small fan (from an old vga cooler)
on the NB. This one looks a bit like it got assembled from the 3-4 other
motherboards. As long as perf. is good - they still make cases without
side windows;)
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Is it just me or has the CPU socket and RAM slots been pushed very close together and very close to the right hand side of the board? I'm assuming this is to make way for the integrated GFX but it might cause issues with large CPU heatsinks and RAM.
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Originally Posted by
fatredwombat1
Is it just me or has the CPU socket and RAM slots been pushed very close together and very close to the right hand side of the board? I'm assuming this is to make way for the integrated GFX but it might cause issues with large CPU heatsinks and RAM.
All AMD boards have the DIMMs and the CPU slot close together...
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To come back at ECS's RS780D board, I actually think it doesnt look bad.
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Over-Clocking
Maximizes your system performance by selecting from these overclocking options
(1) Flexible CPU/DDR core voltage adjustments
(2) Adjustable FSB/DDR ratio
Although it's still questionable by how much you can change it and as well with what steps. And most importantly, if they stick to only these options since they didnt list the multipliers but well. And their previous 780G black series show the same OC options too so... I hope it's better though because I actually like the looks and would like to try out ECS.
Also it supports 140W TDP...
And keep in mind the current 780G chipsets are meant for value/mainstream users and thus the lack of OC options sounds pretty much reasonable;).
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Originally Posted by
oldpueblo
I'm not one to usually care about a motherboards look, but that's quite the ugly board. :p Has a kind of old-school look about it.
Ha-ha, yeah, that’s right! But they are all for testing and debugging purposes only. I have seen an AM3 black board with SB800, it looks rather attractive! BTW, if you look at the photo of that ECS black board once again you will see that it uses an AMD reference board design.
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Originally Posted by
MrMojoZ
They have had "high end" boards in the past which came in shiny shiny boxes but were still low quality parts. I have no issue with ECS if you want bargin basement, but I would not trust them to make a product where quality control mattered.
haha no kidding last ECS mobo i used was the P4M800pro M which quite simply sucked but hey it oc'd a celeron 351 up to 4.2ghz :D and is still sitting there with that celly runnign 4.2ghz stable
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ECS SUCKS PERIOD !!!!!! I would not run one of those boards even if it were given to me and right in the trash it would go!!
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What is the pricing going to be on these 790GX boards? Hopefully these will slide in at the ~$100 price point because right now to get a decent board capable of handling an overclocked Phenom requires you to spend $150+.
Are these boards going to have a solid PWM section? I know after my experience with a 770 board that is something extremely important when it comes to overclocking Phenoms.
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anyone knows why these and in general amd boards have their DIMMs stacked together?
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Originally Posted by
ea6gka
anyone knows why these and in general amd boards have their DIMMs stacked together?
Just a guess: an old habbit from the 939 hey days when 99% of the people
had 2 sticks only?
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so the new 790GX has IGPs on them? hybrid xfire, and lower power consumption for amd now?
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Originally Posted by
Newblar
so the new 790GX has IGPs on them? hybrid xfire, and lower power consumption for amd now?
I'm not sure what you mean, you can already get hybrid and low power consumption in a 780G. I'm guessing you think the 790FX is being replaced by the GX, but the GX is more replacing the X I think. So the lineup will be (I think):
790FX+SB600 --> 790FX+SB750
790X+SB600 --> 790GX+SB750
780G+SB700 --> Might get re-released, don't know.
The 790X may not be going away, but I haven't heard anything new regarding them and it would seem the GX is a natural replacement.
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the GX has integrated Graphics. The 790x does not.....at least thats what I thought.
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Originally Posted by
charged3800z24
the GX has integrated Graphics. The 790x does not.....at least thats what I thought.
Yeah the X doesn't, but I don't know if they'll keep making the X when the GX appears to be the same + IGP (it also has two PCIe slots).
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Originally Posted by
oldpueblo
I'm not sure what you mean, you can already get hybrid and low power consumption in a 780G. I'm guessing you think the 790FX is being replaced by the GX, but the GX is more replacing the X I think. So the lineup will be (I think):
790FX+SB600 --> 790FX+SB750
790X+SB600 --> 790GX+SB750
780G+SB700 --> Might get re-released, don't know.
The 790X may not be going away, but I haven't heard anything new regarding them and it would seem the GX is a natural replacement.
It's this:
RD790/SB600 --> RD790/SB750
RS780D/SB750
RD780/SB600 --> RD780/(SB700/SB750)?
RS780/SB700 (already here)
RS780C/SB700 (already here)
Basicly current boards with SB700 are all more value-ish boards and they most likely wont get an upgrade to SB750.
RS780D will be released with SB750 right away, RD790 will get a re-launch. I dont know what is happening with RD780. It might actually get a re-launch although I think I saw a RD780/SB700 combo already so then it maybe wont. RD780 isnt used a lot anyhow so maybe it will be dumped too.
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Pictures for DFI LANPARTY JR M2RS 790GX
http://www.unlimitpc.com/gigotalk/sh...ad.php?p=89293
And does anyone know if the SB750 will help dual core overclocking at all?
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Originally Posted by
kite7
ACC currently only works with Phenoms according to Anand
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Originally Posted by
kite7
That looks a whole lot better than what was shown on Cebit:shocked:.
Here is the box and further specs
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are there any new sb750 coming with 4 PCI express slots or what ?
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Originally Posted by
demonkevy666
are there any new sb750 coming with 4 PCI express slots or what ?
The 790FX boards are. Dont look at the RS780D boards, they've simply not enough PCIe lanes to make use of 4 PCIe (16x) slots.
DFI's RS790/SB750 boards will have just as their first ones just 3 PCIe 16x slots, although it has a PCIe 4x slot as well. Probably Asus' RD790/SB750 board will have 4 PCIe 16x ports, most likely MSI's and Gigabyte's (if they're going to re-release the RD790) too.
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My new 790gx board was just ordered and in step 1 on newegg...;)
My wife INSIST I sell the K9A2 Platinum now... :shakes:
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Originally Posted by
Rammsteiner
That looks a whole lot better than what was shown on Cebit:shocked:.
Here is the box and further specs
Will I be okay with a X4 9950 on a 4 phase vcore + 1 phase nb design on the DFI board? I know more phases doesn't mean it's good if it's poorly designed
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Originally Posted by
charged3800z24
My new 790gx board was just ordered and in step 1 on newegg...;)
My wife INSIST I sell the K9A2 Platinum now... :shakes:
Great! Eager to hear results! Which one did you get?
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Originally Posted by
JWilson
Great! Eager to hear results! Which one did you get?
GIGABYTE GA-MA790GP-DS4H
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=197265
Saw him post there :D
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Originally Posted by
kite7
Yes that is it.. Thanks to Quake6 I believe.. :yepp:
It isn't even on Gigabytes website yet....
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Gigabyte always seems to have boards up first on Newegg. And of course they are my least favorite brand. ><
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Originally Posted by
oldpueblo
Damn, prices on both boards are very reasonable for all the features (solid caps, etc). I thought I would have to wait a month or so for the price gouging to stop.
I predict that AMD is going to sell a LOT of these chips. No wonder all the motherboard manufacturers were silent when Nvidia inquired if they should continue to make chipsets.....:D
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It is funny how everyone was wondering when they would show up on e-tailers sites.. and no one has said anything about them.. has Anand's site updated their review?.. I wonder if Deneb will sneak out the same...? strange thing at AMD ..
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DFI Jr board pics
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Originally Posted by
kite7
Nice pictures of the DFI Jr. This is the board I have been waiting on to make its appearance. From the pictures it looks like DFI Jr. has the on board sideport graphics memory.
Also, look at the Northbridge heatsink. It looks like it is designed to easily accept a 40mm fan(?) in the center of the heatsink. If so, good job DFI, :up:
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Two questions: how many phases (in theory anyway) are required for the 125-140 watt processors? As well, just to re-verify, we're pretty certain these boards will support Deneb correct? I'm considering a Deneb build just for the heck of it, but I'm not sure if any of the current phenoms would be well supported by these boards or not, and if I'm better off waiting for Deneb release (which could be any time this fall really).
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I was just about to post that link LOL... they should start showing up by 10:00pm Est. thats how the Phenom B3's did.. I order my 9850 BE at 10:15pm
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Originally Posted by
charged3800z24
It is funny how everyone was wondering when they would show up on e-tailers sites.. and no one has said anything about them.. has Anand's site updated their review?.. I wonder if Deneb will sneak out the same...? strange thing at AMD ..
NDA lift is on Wednesday. I think this chipset will surprise some, just not in the way most think it will. ;)
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http://www.tweaktown.com/popImg.php?...0GX-M2RSsk.jpg
Big pic of the DFI board + some "sales info" pdf
http://images.tweaktown.com/imageban...0GX-M2RSsk.pdf
source:
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/9902/d...led/index.html
I am getting that dfi I think:nuts:
Come my baby,come my baby butterfly sugar lady,come my babe
I hate that song,but that's what stuck in my head after looking at that pic.
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That board looks like it could power to Phenoms lol....Needs cooling on those fets..
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Originally Posted by
SocketMan
I am getting that dfi I think:nuts:
I think I'm going to follow your lead.
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Originally Posted by
bingo13
NDA lift is on Wednesday. I think this chipset will surprise some, just not in the way most think it will. ;)
You mean in addition to the overclocking and ACC stuff?
Is this the "big secret" you mentioned but couldn't talk about?
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MY GUESS #1:
It has a built in hardware IOP for RAID and not just the normal software raid like most motherboards?
That would be VERY nice. Of course hardware IOP usually isn't as FAST as software on some benchmarks... although it has much less contention... so it would be GREAT anyway. Due to benchmark results most people wouldn't understand WHY it is better. The main benefits of hardware IOP are not something you can measure. EVEN BETTER would be if it came with hardware IOP that completely mimiced a normal drive so you wouldn't need any drivers.
MY GUESS #2:
A NEW type of crossfire... compatible with the 4xxx video cards but using a completely different method that is going to WIPE OUT Nvidia. (Or even updates to crossfire that allow for power reduction.)
MY GUESS #3:
Each SB750 comes with a built in single cup coffee maker.
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Originally Posted by
keithlm
You mean in addition to the overclocking and ACC stuff?
Is this the "big secret" you mentioned but couldn't talk about?
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MY GUESS #1:
It has a built in hardware IOP for RAID and not just the normal software raid like most motherboards?
That would be VERY nice. Of course hardware IOP usually isn't as FAST as software on some benchmarks... although it has much less contention... so it would be GREAT anyway. Due to benchmark results most people wouldn't understand WHY it is better. The main benefits of hardware IOP are not something you can measure. EVEN BETTER would be if it came with hardware IOP that completely mimiced a normal drive so you wouldn't need any drivers.
MY GUESS #2:
A NEW type of crossfire... compatible with the 4xxx video cards but using a completely different method that is going to WIPE OUT Nvidia. (Or even updates to crossfire that allow for power reduction.)
MY GUESS #3:
Each SB750 comes with a built in single cup coffee maker.
Some surprises are not always pleasant. ;) The big secret is pushed out and that is all I can say. A coffee maker would be nice right now. :D
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Originally Posted by
SocketMan
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/387/cfex4.jpg
Is it true? :eek:
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I think the main features will be the ACC (advanced phenom oc) and the sideport memory to boost the 3DMark numbers.
Much more interesting for me (as I'm looking for a good HTPC mainboard) is in the short article on page 25 of the german printed ct-mag from monday.
"more 3D performance (compared to 780G)"
"Crossfire support"
"sideport memory"
"no hybrid power (like nvidia)"
"ACC"
"SB750: Raid 5"
but most important for me: "By chipset optimizations AMD said to have reduced the power consumption of 790GX boards compared to 780G."
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Does the RS780D offer Hybrid CFX with all AMD cards now? So also with a HD 4870? Not to 'boost' performance, more thinking about powering it down when not needed like nVidia's 780a solution:confused:
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Originally Posted by
Rammsteiner
Does the RS780D offer Hybrid CFX with all AMD cards now? So also with a HD 4870? Not to 'boost' performance, more thinking about powering it down when not needed like nVidia's 780a solution:confused:
Yeah i've been hoping for that feature as well. I could care less about Crossfire with an IGP. I'm sure it's not going to work well with a lot of games.
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@Oliverda
:eek:
I'll have to see it to believe,if it is true it's Vista only
that's for sure.
Bingo13 tell us everything you know about the "surprise"
the NDA is lifted by now*
in Japan at least*
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a whole lineip on newegg now
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Any idea when the FX's are supposed to be released or the DFI's?
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gilgamesh said the DFI is scheduled for 28/8 in the X48 news thread
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Oliverda
They're full of crap:mad:
I have no idea who does their "sales info" it must one of the fud guys,unbelievable:things that they say are in it:rolleyes:
Looks like a "new" socket for AMD,reminds me of something else,what could that be:confused::rolleyes:
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heat rises right ?.........so if they do test they will see that is pointless for ATX/BTX but not HTCP case. -_-
form SB to NB to PMW/VR. that works well, still why I like my MSI board too.
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Originally Posted by
demonkevy666
heat rises right ?.........so if they do test they will see that is pointless for ATX/BTX but not HTCP case. -_-
form SB to NB to PMW/VR. that works well, still why I like my MSI board too.
yea but they're showing the Intel 775 socket, the HS on the
790gx is different it does not go around,they got 2 boards
out at the same time, and mixed things up:confused:
Probably the same guy that right the manuals and
spell checks the BIOS :ROTF:
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Originally Posted by SocketMan
Looks like a "new" socket for AMD,reminds me of something else,what could that be
Yeah, and I thought they wern't going to change sockets, shucks!!
At least the heat-pipe cools the "PWN" section.... :rolleyes:
(the preciding was sarcasim, BTW.)
I do have a legit question for all you folks who've been following these boards closely though:
I'm probably going to be ordering one before I go to bed. It's very important to me that the board has Optical Audio Out, so that limits my choices to the Gigabyte or the Asus...
I had so many problems with the GBT DS5 that I had pretty much sworn off of Gigabyte products. That being said, the cooling solution on the GBT looks to be much better than the one on the Asus.
I also noticed that the GBT has an 8 pin AUX power plug, while the Asus only has a 4 pin Aux plug. I'm not a big fan of Multi-GPU settups, but I'm not sure how much the extra power effects CPU overclocks..
Do you guys think this could be a problem for the Asus board and OC'ing the CPU ?
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Some good looking boards coming, dunno what im going for yet, ill wait and see other users first before i decide.
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@ Daveburt714
I would not buy an AMD mobo right now, let the dust settle for a few days, otherwise you may be sorry you acted so fast.
I really want to see if the 750SB is really any better than what NVIDIA is offering.
I've wanted a new AMD mobo for months, I'm waiting a few more days.
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w00t!
hows this http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/9283/slide6tv4.png
Found on http://forums.techpowerup.com/showth...738#post916738
mATX case owners rejoice! finally a dual gfx solution thats solid! I figure i'll throw two 4850s on one of these babies
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Here they go! First reviews are coming online.:)
http://techreport.com/articles.x/15256
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Originally Posted by
Flasker
@ Daveburt714
I would not buy an AMD mobo right now, let the dust settle for a few days, otherwise you may be sorry you acted so fast.
I really want to see if the 750SB is really any better than what NVIDIA is offering.
I've wanted a new AMD mobo for months, I'm waiting a few more days.
I'm sure that would be the logical thing to do Flasker, and I may very well regret buying early... But, it's not that much money and I have a friend who has been eyeballing my GBT S2H (780G), so I'm sure I can re-coop a little bit of cash. Besides that for me the fun factor is worth it. :D
Here's a link for Asus's board (haven't been able to find anything on the GBT).
http://support.asus.com/download/dow...Language=en-us
I found the "Manual PDF" pretty interesting, I'm not sure about the GBT offering, but the Asus has DDR3/1333 side port memory.
Seems like I read that the GBT's sideport was DDR2/667 (I could be wrong)...
Either way, if it doesn't OC that well I'll have a new board for my HTPC and some fun testing my 9600BE and 9850BE on it.. :up:
