1st 780G mini-itx motherboard launching next week

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07-15-2008, 03:08 AM
kenofstephen

1st 780G mini-itx motherboard launching next week

here comes a quick shot:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...minix-pack.jpg
07-15-2008, 05:09 AM
MrMojoZ

Looks nice. Specs and $$?
07-15-2008, 10:48 PM
KoHaN69

this would make the bestestesest carpc everz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111111
07-15-2008, 11:16 PM
Karolis

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMojoZ

Looks nice. Specs and $$?

Here you go (but no price) - http://www.jwele.com/motherboard_detail.php?419#_spec
07-29-2008, 08:05 AM
AzraelDarkangel

I read that overseas it's currently selling for the equivalent of $170. So I would expect ~ $200.
07-29-2008, 08:46 AM
wa2000

This board is selling for HK$1199. ~=US$154. So I guess the selling price in US will be ~ $175-$180.
08-06-2008, 01:05 PM
Pillo-kun

is it any good? i mean can it oc to?
08-06-2008, 01:46 PM
MrMojoZ

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Originally Posted by Pillo-kun

is it any good? i mean can it oc to?

I'd consider an itx board "good" if it underclocked well, the power needed for overclocking would defeat the purpose. ;)
08-06-2008, 01:56 PM
[XC] Synthetickiller

If it can OC, i see that as PERFECT for lan parties. A good phenom + 4850 = epic set up.
08-06-2008, 02:39 PM
kazgirl

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Originally Posted by Synthetickiller

If it can OC, i see that as PERFECT for lan parties. A good phenom + 4850 = epic set up.

Shame it didn't incorporate full PCI-E 2.0 X16 slot.... the PCIe slot is a x4 linkwidth only.... 4850 would be choked on that IMO...

Still very nice.... I'd love to have one of these mobos, and a X4 9750 and a compact WC setup, for a compact and portable HTPC...

I feel a new build coming on... :D:D
08-06-2008, 03:12 PM
Rammsteiner

Ugh, WTF. It's a mini-ITX board guys:ROTF:. Dont expect anything ground breaking for that except very low power purposes.

Although it looks damn nice, it will only be any good for the same reason as any other mini-ITX; SFF/HTPC. If you need to OC with a small PC for Lanparty's, get DFI's JR 790GX-M2RS instead:p:
08-06-2008, 03:55 PM
N00B

And thinking about it , you will probabli need a good(big and large) PSU it you want to put a phenom and 4850 (ie) in this board , and that defeats the purpuse.

Going to a lan with a ring that as a PSU bigger than the Mobo:ROTF::rofl:

My 780g is micro and has 16x pcie:up:
08-06-2008, 04:45 PM
ryboto

Quote:

Originally Posted by N00B

And thinking about it , you will probabli need a good(big and large) PSU it you want to put a phenom and 4850 (ie) in this board , and that defeats the purpuse.

Going to a lan with a ring that as a PSU bigger than the Mobo:ROTF::rofl:

My 780g is micro and has 16x pcie:up:

If you go with a 65W phenom and a 4850 you could get by on a 200W power supply, like the PW-200 series I'm using now.
08-06-2008, 11:14 PM
Karolis

A low wattage Athlon X2 + Radeon 4670/4650 would be a pretty good portable-mini-itx-gaming-system-cube. For anything more powerful I'd say MicroATX FTW!
10-12-2008, 01:28 AM
Herc130

Another one, although it looks exactly the same, just a different name

http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/Alba...oard/6082.html

might be getting 1 or 6 of these. Or not, as I am more interested in the IGP then the PCIe x16 slot. The whole point of me going ITX is the lower power consumption and the IGP being powerful enough paired with a 35w or 45w cpu along with 2gb maybe even 4gb of ram to do what I need. I mean, if you get a vid card that is worth getting over the onboard IGP, then that card is about the size of the mobo and probably eats up 5 times the power or more then the cpu. Might as well just get a M-ATX. But no doubt other people have different uses and want different things from it.

Anyway, anyone know of a 780G ITX board with just PCI or PCIe x1? At least with that I am not limited to only using a vid card in the slot, because either the IGP fullfills the performance I need or I get an M-ATX. And I already know an M-ATX with nvidea 6100 and even Intel extreme 2 IGP performs just about well enough for my needs here, so hopefully the 780G, intel G45 or Nvidea 8200 outperforms a 6100/intel extreme.
Speaking of which, anyone know how the G45 and 8200 compares to the 780G? And if I can use a pico-PSU to power these?
10-12-2008, 07:09 AM
grayhoose

http://techreport.com/articles.x/15653
10-12-2008, 03:21 PM
The Coolest

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herc130

Another one, although it looks exactly the same, just a different name

http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/Alba...oard/6082.html

might be getting 1 or 6 of these. Or not, as I am more interested in the IGP then the PCIe x16 slot. The whole point of me going ITX is the lower power consumption and the IGP being powerful enough paired with a 35w or 45w cpu along with 2gb maybe even 4gb of ram to do what I need. I mean, if you get a vid card that is worth getting over the onboard IGP, then that card is about the size of the mobo and probably eats up 5 times the power or more then the cpu. Might as well just get a M-ATX. But no doubt other people have different uses and want different things from it.

Anyway, anyone know of a 780G ITX board with just PCI or PCIe x1? At least with that I am not limited to only using a vid card in the slot, because either the IGP fullfills the performance I need or I get an M-ATX. And I already know an M-ATX with nvidea 6100 and even Intel extreme 2 IGP performs just about well enough for my needs here, so hopefully the 780G, intel G45 or Nvidea 8200 outperforms a 6100/intel extreme.
Speaking of which, anyone know how the G45 and 8200 compares to the 780G? And if I can use a pico-PSU to power these?

You do realize that you can use a x1 card in a x16 slot, right?
10-12-2008, 03:46 PM
Herc130

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Coolest

You do realize that you can use a x1 card in a x16 slot, right?

No, I did not. :p:

Guess this would be the itx board to get then :) Now if it was under $100 and used desktop ram, that would be great.
10-12-2008, 03:47 PM
nullface

This, a 9150e and a 5400RPM drive would make a nice server that wouldent take away any space.
10-13-2008, 03:08 AM
BertM

it doesnt have a parallel port :(
10-13-2008, 04:08 AM
nullface

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Originally Posted by BertM

it doesnt have a parallel port :(

What do you need a paralel port for?
10-13-2008, 04:36 AM
nullface

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herc130

No, I did not. :p:

Guess this would be the itx board to get then :) Now if it was under $100 and used desktop ram, that would be great.

Have you seen SODIMM prices? at least in denmark SODIMMS are allmost for free. 2x2GB HyperX at $100.

My old X2 3600+ is just waitning for this :D
10-13-2008, 05:57 AM
BertM

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Originally Posted by nullface

What do you need a paralel port for?

my cnc milling machine requires a computer with parallel port.
the current desktop case i have with amd 3800+ is a bit big for that.
10-13-2008, 06:05 AM
nullface

Quote:

Originally Posted by BertM

my cnc milling machine requires a computer with parallel port.
the current desktop case i have with amd 3800+ is a bit big for that.

Oh i see :D
10-13-2008, 06:57 AM
The Coolest

SODIMM ram is pretty cheap now, so I don't think that should be factor in buying decision.
10-13-2008, 07:07 AM
nullface

Why have i never realy heard about J&W before?
10-20-2008, 03:48 PM
Herc130

In Hong Kong and went to Wan Chai computer center in Honk Kong, but very few sellers of ITX boards there and seemingly none of them even know what J&W is, even though it's a Chinese manufacturer and they are located right in Hong Kong. Next day, went to the Golden Computer center in Sham Shui Po and found several sellers there. All had it listed at $1190 HK. I was told that is the lowest price and thye generally don't barter there, so I bought three at that price. Will check out Mongkok later and either buy three more at Mongkok or back to Sham Shui Po. $1190 is @$153, which is less then you can get it at some places online in the US and a few dollars more then one other place. For me though, shipping per board would drastically increase the cost, so I am opting to just buy it while in HK and not pay shipping and will see how RMAing through J&W itself goes if I have problems.

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/9656/img0790sk5.jpg

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9756/img0792nm6.jpg
10-20-2008, 04:37 PM
Cooper

I found one place in Europe selling this board for 170 Euro+S&H :eek:
There's an alternative: Jetway JNC81. It's cheaper, more widespreaded, but uses GDDR2 as sideport and PCI slot instead of PCI-e
10-20-2008, 06:32 PM
Herc130

What is this white connector on the bottem right corner?

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/1051/1217225097du7.jpg

Noticed mine has it, but the first ic in this post dos not. Is it for connecting TFT LCD modules internally?

In the book, it's just listed as the "multifunctional connector" and the discription doesn't say much except to refer to device you are hooking up for more info.
10-21-2008, 04:07 PM
[XC] Synthetickiller

So is it possible to get this in the US?
10-21-2008, 04:10 PM
Cooper

Herc130

can you please check if it's possible to undervolt the CPU and to what setting
10-22-2008, 07:48 AM
felix_w

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Originally Posted by Herc130

What is this white connector on the bottem right corner?

Manual says :

Quote:

14-J1(Multifunctional device connecter) (Optional) :
The connecter may connect external multifunctional device, ,about detail connect way and
definition,please refer to external connect device's manual.

But it looks like an LDVS connector, just like the ones in notebooks, used to connect the tft panel...
10-22-2008, 11:36 AM
quake6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cooper

I found one place in Europe selling this board for 170 Euro+S&H :eek:
There's an alternative: Jetway JNC81. It's cheaper, more widespreaded, but uses GDDR2 as sideport and PCI slot instead of PCI-e

Can you say what store? I'm very interesting in it,but dont know any of place in Europe that are having that board or maybe Jetway JNC81
10-22-2008, 04:36 PM
Cooper

http://linitx.com/ UK store for various mini itx stuff and Jetway boards in particular.
http://www.salland.eu dutch store for j&w board
10-22-2008, 04:38 PM
Glow9

#1 That is fantasticly nice packaging but who cares.
#2 Whats the dimensions? My Ideq 200n needs a new mobo
10-22-2008, 05:00 PM
Herc130

You can get the board through US e-sellers. Think Nerds and a couple Amazon stores sell em (probably same stores), as well as ebay. Last I looked, ebay sellers wanted $160+ US, Nerds was @there and NCIX (something like that...the Canada store that also sells to US) was @$146.

Went through Mongkok and they had it listed at $1140 HK, but no one had it in stock. Went back to Golden and bartered the price down to $1100 HK, but that guy only had 1. Next two was hard to find as they were all out of stock everywhere and I ended up paying $1190 again for the last two. 100 HK is $13 us, so whatever. Just hopefully I have no problems with the boards as I can't even check em till I get home. Also picked up 6 Seagate 5400.5 160GB 2.5" HDD's at $350 HK ($46 US). Newegg has Seagate 5400.4 160GB notebook drives at $69. Hopefully the 5400.5 is a better model and I got a good deal :)

Now to find a 45w AM2 cpu. Seen AMD LE 6xxx (supposedly 2.5GHz) cpu's at$280 HK ( @$36 US), but haven't been able to located info on such a cpu online to compare. So am hesitent to buy.

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can you please check if it's possible to undervolt the CPU and to what setting

Will when I get home and actually get these up and running. These compters will be turned on alot for me and don't really need to be too powerful, so maybe even an undervolted 45w 2.5GHz will be more then enough.