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Grab em from the link below
http://support.ati.com/ics/support/d...asp?deptID=894
The information in this article applies to the following configuration(s):
* Radeon™ HD 4870 series
* Radeon™ HD 4850 series
This Hotfix improves overall performance and stability. The Hotfix includes the Display Driver and Catalyst Control Center.
EDIT: Updated URL - Its in the hotfix list at the top.
Link is broken...
Regardless, I want to see some benchmarks with this driver.
Here is the proper link:
http://support.ati.com/ics/support/d...asp?deptID=894
---> check "Most recent topics" (that's the lower paragraph) and then the first entry.
EDIT: His link seems to be working now.
I still can't see it. I believe it's because you went to the ATI site yourself and searched for it, so you have a session with the server.Quote:
Originally Posted by Helmore
They have all kinds of hotlink/session protection for whatever reason.
Go to http://support.ati.com/ and scroll down to Most Recent Topics the hotlink should be the first one.
Benchmarks please.
:up::up::up::up::up::up::up::up::up::up::up::up::u p::up::up::up::up::up::up::up::up::up::up::up::up: :up::up::up::up::up::up::up:Quote:
Originally Posted by DelaMaris
Vantage:
Hotfix 8.6:
P16426
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=181009
Catalyst 8.6:
P16184
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=179360
Beta 8.6:
P15263
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=166851
Catalyst 8.5 Hotfix( first working Vantage driver):
P11958
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=126596
what issues was the hotfix to address?
Dunno, but stream out performance on 3870X2 up almost 40%, hence the Vantage score boost. Must be update to scheduling for the SP's.
I will have a short 3dmark (not Vantage) review tomorrow 8800gt vs 4850 as well as stock cooler vs Accelero S1. You will be amazed by how many degrees it won, at least I have never seen such difference before :eek: :D
Ha ha, I'll make a guess of 30-40° difference. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by kiwi
So, for this hotfix, do I just remove old drivers and install this version?
BTW: I just got the 4850 at BestBuy for $149, and I'm idling at 77c :eek:
Do you all have proper image on DVI output? Mine shows only black screen whan the driver is installed and loaded. Shows proper image in bios though.
fan speed is set to 10% at idle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adhesive
don't talk like noobs use riva tuner sheesh is this xtreme systems or not ?
I can't use riva tuner with the latest drivers...it just crashes after entering to customize. Also shows my memory to be 0mb. And these hotfix drivers didn't decrease my temps at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by eric66
hmmm hopefully riva will add support for 4850 seems nobody expected this card :)
reapply the thermal? some members have reported a 55 degree idle after taking off the factory and reseating it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adhesive
The funny thing is that at load it only increases 2 degrees because the fans kick in, lol.
That's probably because PowerPlay still is not working correctly, that's just my guess though as I'm not completely sure. Could you check what clocks it's running when idle?Quote:
Originally Posted by Adhesive
The fact that the 4850 consumes 20W friggin watts more than 3870 at idle is intriguing me. 500MHz for idle is just too high. Powerplay still not defined? In this generation clocks are defined by drivers and not by BIOS (or that's what I read in one of the reviews)Quote:
Originally Posted by Helmore
This isn't HotFixSystems.org. ATi and Nvidia need some quality control and finalize majority of the performance before releasing the cards. (Driver updates should only be used to fix issues with applications etc).
Perkam
500Mhz and 750Mhz...these temps are ridiculous, and kinda freaking me out. Another weird thing is that since installing the hotfix the analog read out no longer functions, I just get a digital reading of GPU temp. The analog GPU Activity guage seems to be functioning properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Helmore
Edit: Would reseating the heatsink with some arctic silver void my Visionteks lifetime warranty?
Drivers are a major issue for ATI right now. SO much so that I've almost gone nV a few times now...alot of games got that damn splash-screen...but I remain faithful that somethere is capable, or they hire someone new!:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
:shakes:
EDIT:
Why? Gpu should be good to 115c or so. Seriously. Throw it under some water and enjoy 30c temps if it worries you that much. For real, man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adhesive
Don't get me wrong, I'm actually thrilled that it only hit's 82c under load. The x1950 that it replaced would hit 97c while gaming...but I'm just not comfortable with the thing radiating 180f of heat into my PC throughout the day at 0% GPU activity. It's bringing the ambient temps of my case way up, and that can't be good for the other weaker components.Quote:
Originally Posted by cadaveca
The reason it runs hot is because of lax fan profiles.
Pretty much all cards since x800 are this way.
i removed the shrouds from my 4850's the little plastic covers anyway, retimmed with ceramique and I setup 4 yate loons blowing over the cards, my idles dropped to mid 50's from upper 60's low 70's.
I still hit low 80's gaming though, i love the setup, sniffing 27k in 05 with stock cards and 4.1 wolfy, cod4 screams at 4axx 1680x1050 with max settings. I want better cooling though, only downfall of these cards, anyone know what coolers will work? Looks to be the same as the g92's and 3870's mountwise, was thinking some copper zalmans might do the trick.
I guess i will try this hotfix, so far I have had no issues in anything though.
HR-03 GT + A decent fan. Better than a Zalman, no exhaust path though.
Any "microstuttering"? ;)
no just played cod4 for a while, smooth ass glasss, I got an accellero s1 rev2 i gotta try too.
Or something like this:
http://www.arctic-cooling.com/vga2.php?idx=147
Curiously though, aren't idle 2D clocks supposed to be in the neighborhood of around 300MHz. just like the 38x0 cards? Oh well, we will know for sure in about a month from now.
I have one those gonna try it, my cards go to 500mhz at idle.
Clocks don't matter so much as the voltage.
Wrong talking about RV670, frequency is almost the only thing that affects power consumption. And looking at the idle vs load voltages I'd bet RV770 is the same. I will confirm it when I get mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by cegras
Well.. Mine too sits at 500mhz, which is high for 2d... Also fan isn't even working hard. Seems similar to my 3870 that I had... Fan set to be silent, card bakes... But no stability problems... I just used riva Tuner on my 3870 to turn up the fan if i felt like it. Be nice if that was simply part of CCC. Set your fanspeed at various temp points.
Honestly, if its an issue much like with 3870, just turn the fans up with riva tuner (hopefully supported soon).
To answer someones question from above, DVi works fine, DVI to HDMI is fine. Driving a 22" @ 1680 x 1050 and a Samsung Series 3 at 1920 x 1080... (strange as its supposed to be only 1080i, but my 3870 in xfire drove it at same res)
Yeah, wish CCC had programmable fan profiles. I set mine up with riva tuner on my 3870 and it works great. Set my idle fan to 40% which is still silent, and it kicks up at preset temps to 100% at 85c.
I've seen this mentioned before. There can be only one explanation for this and that is that the voltage does not really change.Quote:
Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR
It does change, confirmed with a DMM, idle voltage for RV670XT (HD3870) is 1.241v and 3D voltage is 1.327v. Miwo, myself and lots of people have tested this and it's a well proved fact. The key to reduce power consumption in RV670 is to lower frequency, lowering voltage has virtually no effect. And it seems RV770 is the same. I don't have an explanation, but it happens. Maybe they disable some parts of the chip at low MHz, who knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrowncoatGR
lol I love how Stargazer is so quick to jump in on any of the power consumption talk about the RV670 :)
I think that AMD needs to fix some crossfire profiles, get those latest games supported as soon as they can. Dual RV770s in Crossfire are a pretty damn attractive alternative to having a single GTX260/GTX280 considering how many people have Intel chipsets on their boards. Personally I'm awaiting to see the performance numbers on the 4870 before I jump on the RV770 bandwagon. If the DDR5 bandwidth does barely anything, I think ill jump on one or two 1GB 4850s now that I have finally retired my XBX2 rig and have something a little more up to date. We still need some more OC Tools that support the RV770 to make full use of vmods though and overcome the CCC limit. When I get one, ill be sure to jot down some kill-a-watt readings on both idle/load at varying voltages.
We need to sticky it, every X time someone cames with the same "it's impossible, voltage should have more effect" :ROTF:
I have His 4850 and it looks like the BIOS is missing 1 (maybe more) of the
"power levels" there should be one ~160mhz and the corresponding (low) voltage,however the "lowest" "power level" is set to 500 and the not so low
voltage.
There are 2 BIOS files there 1 MSI (with correct power levels) the other one
is Powercolor with "messed" up "power levels"(like my his) :eek:
Right:
GPU Device Id: 0x1002 0x9442
113-B50102-Y06
Wekiva RV770 B50102 Board
(C) 1988-2005, ATI Technologies Inc.
ATOMBIOSBK-ATI VER011.004.000.000.000000
s3b50102.y06
Clock State 0
Core Clk: 625.00 MHz
Memory Clk: 993.00 MHz
Voltage: VID1
Flags: Boot
Clock State 1
Core Clk: 160.00 MHz
Memory Clk: 500.00 MHz
Voltage: 1.046 V
Flags:
Clock State 2
Core Clk: 625.00 MHz
Memory Clk: 993.00 MHz
Voltage: VID1
Flags:
Clock State 3
Core Clk: 625.00 MHz
Memory Clk: 993.00 MHz
Voltage: VID1
Flags:
************************************************** *****
Wrong:
GPU Device Id: 0x1002 0x9442
113-B50102-103
Wekiva RV770 B50102 Board
(C) 1988-2005, ATI Technologies Inc.
ATOMBIOSBK-ATI VER011.003.000.000.029117
B3B50102.103
Clock State 0
Core Clk: 625.00 MHz
Memory Clk: 993.00 MHz
Voltage: VID1
Flags: Boot
Clock State 1
Core Clk: 500.00 MHz
Memory Clk: 750.00 MHz
Voltage: 1.046 V
Flags:
Clock State 2
Core Clk: 625.00 MHz
Memory Clk: 993.00 MHz
Voltage: VID1
Flags:
Clock State 3
Core Clk: 500.00 MHz
Memory Clk: 993.00 MHz
Voltage: 1.084 V
Flags:
http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/i...ace=&memSize=0
You see, there was something wrong with that power consumption. 160MHz core :woot:
To say the least,^^Quote:
Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR
75c idle is ok for the winter but not summer:rofl:
I wonder how many reviews out there measuring the "idle"
speed incorrectly. Looks like a BIOS update for many 4850 owners in the near future:rolleyes: Oh well
need to pay the price for being the Guinea pigs:p::shocked: