GPU2 News

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Nvi...Home,5654.html

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5:30 AM - June 13, 2008 by Theo Valich
Source: Tom's Hardware US

Santa Clara (CA) - During Nvidia Editor’s Day, we learned that Nvidia and the Folding@Home research group led by Vijay Pande are making final preparation to launch the first version of the Folding@Home client for Nvidia graphics processors.

The unveiling of the client is set for the next week as part of the launch of Nvidia’s GT200 GPU series. Owning such a card will have its benefits in Folding@Home and will outrun Radeon 3870 cards. The new GeForce cards are expected to hit more than 650 nanoseconds of protein simulation in a single day, while the Radeon HD 3870 is stuck at about 170 ns. The Playstation 3 is able to produce "only" 100 ns of simulation, while a quad-core CPU creates an output of just four nanoseconds. For those who are keeping count: The GeForce GPU will be about 163 times faster than a quad-core processor in this specific application.

Nvidia founded Team "Whoopass", which consists only of several computers that are running the Folding@Home GPU client. Even with just 4-5 test machines, the team quickly moved into the top 5% of all contributors by sheer processing power. Dr. Vijay told us that if only 1% of all CUDA-capable users would start using Folding@Home in their spare time, the Folding@Home machine would quickly be considered the fastest performing HPC computer in the whole world - hitting about 60-80 Peta FLOPS of processing power.

Folding@Home for Nvidia CUDA-capable graphics cards (GeForce 8 and above) should become available next week. The codename for this client is GPU2/NVIDIA. The GPU1 client was retired, while GPU2 client will continue to be updated for both Nvidia and ATI cards.

ATI was first with a client for the Folding@Home project, which was released back in September of 2006 for the X1900 series of cards. Back then, the cards topped out at 375 GFlops. The next GPU generation should provide more than double the horsepower.

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For those who are keeping count: The GeForce GPU will be about 163 times faster than a quad-core processor in this specific application.

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wow, say good bye to my fah quad farm.... for me this means fah will be a gpu crunching project... I may move the cpu's over to wcg, and fold with gpu's only for fah.

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I cannot wait, I need all the power a can get for my folding team (88881 for http://www.overclockworld.com) but 163 times the power, that is fricken insane. Holy crap Vijay, hurry up.

also look at the 3870@170ns compared to the new GT200@650ns...

if true, this means the GT200 will be 3.82 times faster than a 3870 gpu2.
so if a 3870 can 2000ppd, then a GT200 will 7650ppd...


here's the team mentioned in the article... nvidia team whooopass... they have been folding for 2 days and have 400K...
so they are getting 200,000ppd on 4-5 test machines if the OP article info is correct.
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.c...hp?s=&t=131015
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/5779/17258838lc4.jpg

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Originally Posted by MikeB12

also look at the 3870@170ns compared to the new GT200@650ns...

if true, this means the GT200 will be 3.82 times faster than a 3870 gpu2.
so if a 3870 can 2000ppd, then a GT200 will 7650ppd...


here's the team mentioned in the article... nvidia team whooopass... they have been folding for 2 days and have 400K...
so they are getting 200,000ppd on 4-5 test machines if the OP article info is correct.
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.c...hp?s=&t=131015
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/5779/17258838lc4.jpg

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Im happy about the 3500 or so i will get from my 8800GT... :p:

I saw the pic, holy siht... :D

*picks self off the floor after fainting*
:scope::shocked::confused2::party::wtf::toast::par ty3:

Typical Nvidia's bravado :Whoop ass" give me a break:rolleyes:

No numbers on the new ATI's yet - don't write them off just yet;)

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http://folding.typepad.com/news/2008...-increase.html

GPU2 PPD increase

With new revisions to the GPU2 core code, the GPU2 code is doing more science per ever in the same amount of time. In the spirit of having the points equate to how much science is being done, we are going to increase the PPD of the GPU2 benchmark machine (ATI 3850 board -- see the FAQ for details) to 1500 PPD. We will revalue the most recent WU's (472X) and all future WU's will use this new PPD for benchmarking.

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All 4 of my gpu2 clients have in fact lost ~500ppd per client over the last ~week
So now they gonna bring it back up to where it was? Where is the increase? or maybe it's only for NV?

I am prepared to abuse my GPU...Let's go !!!:up:

Can't wait. I have a lot of GPUs that are not fully utilized.

same here, but I can't help but think that the extraordinary speed is for very targeted projects...similar to the PS3. At least that is what stanford has been saying all along: SMP client provides the highest flexibility for a wide range of projects, while GPU/PS3 provides high performance on a narrow set of projects. Still holds true with GPU2?

Pande corrected the numbers posted in the Tom's article above...
http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.ph...&t=3117#p28792

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PS Note that Tom's H numbers are a bit misleading. We're not getting 650ns/day (yet) on the gtx280 (more like 550) and we're now getting 250ns/day on 3870's in the lab (perhaps 300ns/day in time), and the 3870's are the previous gen ATI cards. The gtx280 is going to be really great at folding though.

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Also, as seen over and over, raw speed != ppd.

We will see when we see! I'm psyched to find out, though!

I cant wait to see how overclocking the GPU affects the folding output. :D

It will probably come out on the same day as the new NV cards:
the 18th?

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Originally Posted by SocketMan

It will probably come out on the same day as the new NV cards:
the 18th?

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I still cant wait. :yepp:

more discussion on fah forum..
http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.ph...&sd=a&start=15

someone posted this chart:

http://media.bestofmicro.com/gtx-280...-111005-13.jpg

But the Q6600 looks like a stock speed installed on a Windows OS. We know that baby does +3500ppd and then the gpu's don't give more ppd for the cost. Not only looking at the cost of building a system but also running it.

yeah, but that's now. ppd restructuring hasn't happen yet...

The Nvidia client beta was leaked a day or two ago;

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...1&limitstart=4

I've been running it and fahmon says 2065 ppd with a slightly overclocked 8800GTX. It's actually running slower than the 9600GTs though, so whether that's down to the work unit or the AMD CPU holding it back, I have no clue..

OMG, this is folding so fast. :up:

177.35 drivers 'unleash the G80 powah'. 4980 estimated PPD in FahMon. :) (More than 500ns/day)

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Originally Posted by bowman

The Nvidia client beta was leaked a day or two ago;

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...1&limitstart=4

I've been running it and fahmon says 2065 ppd with a slightly overclocked 8800GTX. It's actually running slower than the 9600GTs though, so whether that's down to the work unit or the AMD CPU holding it back, I have no clue..

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Thanks for the link !
Does it work with winXP32/64 ?
Don't know if rivatuner (or something else) can show "the gpu utilization" but
if it's at 100 (90%+) then the cpu is not holding it back
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that's on phenom @ 2600 vv

Noob Question: How many consoles can I still run on my PD820 while my 8800GT is folding?

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Originally Posted by SocketMan

Thanks for the link !
Does it work with winXP32/64 ?
Don't know if rivatuner (or something else) can show "the gpu utilization" but
if it's at 100 (90%+) then the cpu is not holding it back
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that's on phenom @ 2600 vv

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Apparently it works on XP, I don't know, I'm on Vista64.

CPU utilization was 100% on one core with the old drivers, now it's below 25% while not using the visualizer (I avoid using it at all, it eats away at the crunching).

The GPU just gets to 57C, if I stress it with FurMark it reaches 70C.

Obviously the texturing units and such graphics-specific units are twiddling their thumbs but somehow I feel they still have more juice to squeeze out of the cards. It's a pre-beta after all. :up:

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http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=3186

6.12 beta6 is now officially out, as opposed to the leaked beta1.

Question: Does the GPU client only run on the GPU? Or should I tell it to only use %5 of the cpu? I ask because I've got WCG running on my CPU and I don't want it to interfere too much. A little (%5) is fine.

let it utilize a whole core if you're gonna use gpu2, it needs an entire core to run efficiently... otherwise it'll choke and won't turn any ppd... wish it wasn't this way. but it is..

I've got it running at %5 atm and it's chugging along, Looks like this WU should take another 4-5 hours. :shrug:

EDIT: it's just running Test protein... How do i get it to run actual WU's? I pumped it up to %100 CPU usage, Still, nothing.

EDIT:....It's because Im using a 64-bit OS Isnt it... :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by kevinbo03

I've got it running at %5 atm and it's chugging along, Looks like this WU should take another 4-5 hours. :shrug:

EDIT: it's just running Test protein... How do i get it to run actual WU's? I pumped it up to %100 CPU usage, Still, nothing.

EDIT:....It's because Im using a 64-bit OS Isnt it... :rolleyes:

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I've had 2 ati cards folding on x64 for a couple of month now

Had the same thing with the "test protein" (on ati): it still folds just not showing the right info.
NV will update it eventually.

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Originally Posted by kevinbo03

I've got it running at %5 atm and it's chugging along, Looks like this WU should take another 4-5 hours. :shrug:

EDIT: it's just running Test protein... How do i get it to run actual WU's? I pumped it up to %100 CPU usage, Still, nothing.

EDIT:....It's because Im using a 64-bit OS Isnt it... :rolleyes:

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Is it saying 'user-123' and 'team-456' too?

Have a look in the log, it's probably EUEing several times over.

You should try the new drivers.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvist...7.35_whql.html
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp64_177.35_whql.html
http://www.overclock.net/4036764-post14.html

It takes me about 48 minutes to do a WU with older drivers and a stock 8800GT. At this rate due to my calculations I am averaging about 2650PPD. Now when I install the latest 177.35s and OC it will work great. :up:

EDIT: Whats more beneficial to PPD as far as OC goes? Core, Shader or mem max OC?

I would assume core.

I'm going to get the new drivers, give it another shot.

Also, It wasnt saying team or anything, It just said "Core is not running right now."

EDIT: Still nothing. I did some reading, It seems the client for NV GPUs doesn't support x64 yet. Some people have it working on older, Non Cuda forceware drivers using the old emulation. Still that just returns garbage. I'll just have to wait. :yepp:

I reopened it after it errored and closed, and it runs alot better now.

Does this support dual gpu's, or no? I would assume it at least supports the 2 on a GX2 according to the PPD graph i saw.

I can throw another 8800GTS 512 in my P35 and fold on it, right?

And im running XP Pro x64, and it looks like it works.

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Originally Posted by kevinbo03

I would assume core.

I'm going to get the new drivers, give it another shot.

Also, It wasnt saying team or anything, It just said "Core is not running right now."

EDIT: Still nothing. I did some reading, It seems the client for NV GPUs doesn't support x64 yet. Some people have it working on older, Non Cuda forceware drivers using the old emulation. Still that just returns garbage. I'll just have to wait. :yepp:

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I'm running it on Vista x64 with 177.35s and the 8800GTX. It's working fine, a few quirks about general use but nothing wrong with the client itself.

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Originally Posted by [cTx] Raptor22

EDIT: Whats more beneficial to PPD as far as OC goes? Core, Shader or mem max OC?

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shader.

the core only distributes the instructions to work on, i would think.

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Originally Posted by enteon

shader.

the core only distributes the instructions to work on, i would think.

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Its taking 4 minutes off my WUs with only a 25MHz Core, and 50Mhz shader OC. :up:

I wish I had a dual slot cooler though....

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Originally Posted by kevinbo03

I would assume core.

I'm going to get the new drivers, give it another shot.

Also, It wasnt saying team or anything, It just said "Core is not running right now."

EDIT: Still nothing. I did some reading, It seems the client for NV GPUs doesn't support x64 yet. Some people have it working on older, Non Cuda forceware drivers using the old emulation. Still that just returns garbage. I'll just have to wait. :yepp:

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It works great for me (XP x64) ~3100ppd now.... :up::up::up:

hmm, they say 8600's work as well? might go check if my parents puter supports pci-e, i wouldnt mind getting a extra 1.4kppd out of it :)

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Originally Posted by Aleki

hmm, they say 8600's work as well? might go check if my parents puter supports pci-e, i wouldnt mind getting a extra 1.4kppd out of it :)

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That woudl be pretty sweet, any DX10 8 series = card works AFAIK.

YES - I am back at Folding baby! got the 9600GTs chugging along at 775/1000 that I cranked down from 800 core... I am so happy to have a Nvidia GPU client - I will be able to tell you results with the 9600GSOs in a few days as I have 5 inbound :D and will eventually use them as a farm I think
EDIT- STUCK on THE 177 drivers install with the modded inf