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how fast is a 2.4 Ghz wolfie?
Seems wrong...
The time is alot different from what I've heard, further, that clockspeed isnt real..? The models in 2008 wont be at that frequency... Bizar
i sooooo hope 45nm wolf is just as fast in single threaded application...
please god please.
It`s probably an early batch, but it`s real.Quote:
Originally Posted by M.Beier
Knowing AndreYang, he`s prolly had it for a little while now :p:
Perkam
So what's the time of a 2,4GHz Wolfdale or Yorkfield? I don't want to underclock my system to test it :p:
18,7sec on E8400 at 333x7,5 in vista with alot of crap running.
E6600 2.4Ghz.
Source
Metroid.
from what i read somewhere, intel has locked all their nehalem cpus that they send out @ 2.4 gigs?? someone correct me if im wrong??Quote:
Originally Posted by M.Beier
Did anyone else notice the below 1 volt?
Yes!:)Quote:
Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
Yes! It's in another thread here.Quote:
Originally Posted by tylerw13
My E6600 got 21secs as well, I have not ran it on my Wolfdale.
Damn....
Must... resist....
Too late. :up:
I don't have a 2.4 Ghz clock, but at 2.5 Ghz a Yorkie gets 19.03 seconds, so at 2.4 GHz I am guessing 20-21 second range.Quote:
Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR
EDIT. Yorkie at 2.4 Ghz... added, 19.984 seconds SP1M
wow. This seems to be contrary to what the Anand Results seemed to point towards in singlethreaded performance... any speculation as to the disparity?Quote:
Originally Posted by JumpingJack
I think what you will find is different apps seeing some healthy gains, others seeing none or little to nothing. On the whole I suspect healthy overall but not overwhelming single threaded jumps in performance (similar to K8 to Phenom). There are examples where, clock for clock (IPC), Phenom showed moderate to very slight gains, and in other apps nice 15-20% improvements.Quote:
Originally Posted by villa1n
In this case, SP1M -- there is info on the web that Intel buffed up loop prediction, as SP1M is inherently recursive I would postulate that the benefit we see here is coming some from that architectural improvement. Speculation on my part though....
Just looking at the SP1M, roughly 13% gain clock for clock -- which is healthy for single threaded performance ... not quite a jaw dropping as the Conroe leap over Netburst, but still healthy.
Jack
Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
you just need to look at his new avatar ;)
Not too bad for an early batch :)
edit: I shall call Bloomfield by another name, BOOMFIELD :D
The Performance/watt is rather good. so it's 17seconds at equal frequenzy, but at a higher performance per watt than 45nm core 2, right?
Speculation of course, but seems fairly grounded ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by JumpingJack
Makes sense, hehe, but 13% on something already impressive is no small feat either. I was worried that these would only have 1-3% improvements on singlethreaded, and shine in the multithreading scenario, but seeing this, is well, very promising indeed :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by JumpingJack
waits for amd fainboys to pick this up and say nehalem is only optimized for benchmarks (just like core2) :rofl:
No offense , but that's dumb.Based on a single test which doesn't touch the improvements of Nehalem , you extrapolated to a 2% gain across all apps?Quote:
Originally Posted by villa1n
16% performance improvement on SPi1M is good. But nobody is looking at the CPUz screen. The OP was using only one module(1GB) of RAM. I guess his mainboard was running the RAM with crappy timings too, like Anand's mainboard. So, we can expect some better numbers with the retail products.
You know very well that Core and especially Penryn ( with its improved latencies for some instructions ) are the pinnacle of single thread performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by JumpingJack
With the advanced prefetchers , very large and extremly low latency L2 they keep the large number of execution units busy and offer superb single thread performance.To improve on that with a completely different cache structure ( inferior IMO for single threaded apps ) and a CPU designed for scalability and multithreading is nothing short of astounding.
People expect Nehalem to improve dramatically over Penryn , but they fail to realize how hard that is as the Core/Penryn uarch simply loves single threaded apps.
AMD K10 has a full 3 pages of improvements over K8 and can't touch Core even with a 10 foot pole in single threaded apps.Imagine what work went into Nehalem to offer even that measly 2% in Cinebench.
why bus 133mhz ?
I will not argue against this.... just in studying the emperical data -- what we have seen so far, I would also speculate that Intel started the Conroe/Penryn design cycle with a philosophy of 'let's amp up single threaded and provide good multithreaded'.... in this approach they addressed the majority of the code base in the current market while providing incentive to start transitioning to multithreaded. The dynamic allocation of shared cache is a huge singlethreaded advantage while maintaining good multithreaded performance (i.e. coherency is not an issue in shared caches).Quote:
Originally Posted by savantu
In fact, I am quite pleased personally at the progress software has made to going multithreaded overall, many apps which 2 years ago were single are now working on more cores... games (recent contemporary games) are also showing that trend. My investment in a quad core was not wasted ;)
As such, the timing for a focus on multithreaded is about right....
In short, it would appear to me that Intel delivered in terms of architecture boosts in areas exactly where they needed it to be successful on the current state of the code base....
This is one of many aspects microarchitects must design for.... i.e. what current and future code will be running on the HW.
Jack
why not? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kromosto
133 MHz is not the bus anyway, it is imply the system clock. The 'bus' as we know it for Intel will no longer exist. Any bus clock derived from this system clock is dictated by PLLs and dividers.
AMD's bus is 200 Mhz, with 133 and multipliers Intel has a little more fine granularity in the control over their processor binning.
Jack
no offense but you didnt read my response to jacks answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by savantu
I was stating what was written, and cinebench seems like a fairly good indicator of cpu performance. I was also factoring in in singlethreaded apps, the yorkfield seemed to keep pretty close to nehalem in performance, so seeing a 13% improvement on an architecture, that was designed to be fast in single threaded environments, is quite impressive, especially since it is even more apt in multithreaded environments.:up:
It's the reference clock, not the bus. It's just an external clock for the processor to atune itself to.Quote:
Originally Posted by kromosto
I hope it'll be like Phenom's clocks with separate clock domains for each core and each component. Fun tweaking times ahead.:up:
Does the 1m Spi test fit entirely into any of the caches, 4,6,8mb?
What architectural feature of Nehalem influences single threaded performance so positively in that scneario, while it does nothing for cinebench?
Any guesses?
what about an IMC and some shared 8MB L3 goodness :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacky
btw there might be a chance that in 64bit cinebench it is more than 2%. I just realised that nehalem has improved 64bit macro-ops fusion according to kanter's article.Quote:
Originally Posted by savantu
mmmm, run wprime please :slobber::slobber::slobber:
Exactly! In addition, it is easy to maintain a very stable clock at lower frequencies.Quote:
Originally Posted by JumpingJack
Here's my projections on how the clock domains will work on Nehalem...
http://www.nehalemnews.com/2008/05/e...r-domains.html
Cheers,
-Chris.
I've seen SS at 2667 and at 3200+ so this beast will OC.
How it was done I don't know but I know the people that took the SS and trust them.
Hey Andre, run cinebench10 64 bit on that sucker if you can..:up:
everyone also saw phenom at 3ghz+ before release, no guarantee for overclockQuote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
No, it can't fit in 8MB and the algorithm of SPi is not designed to try to hold the data in cache.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacky
Improved OP fusion, 33% better parallelization, better & faster cache architecture, IMCs. To see if there is difference in cinebench or not we'll have to wait for the retail CPUs and mainboards. The available test are made with a single channel memory config and with crappy memory timings.Quote:
What architectural feature of Nehalem influences single threaded performance so positively in that scneario, while it does nothing for cinebench?
Any guesses?
yeap, everybody saw phenom on 3GHz, but nobody was allowed to come closer to the system and not to even think about touching it. Right now there are many people who have nehalem and they are saying that it is very good and very cool OC-er.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
Not even close to being the same. Only a few folks thought 3GHz would be the norm for Barcelona, while most folks think 2.66GHz Nehalem is way under clocked. Intel showed 3.2GHz and sent out 2.66GHz ES models. The first Conroe ES processors showed up at 2.66GHz so there's nothing that's not routine here.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
Oh BTW, I learned a long time ago to NOT doubt MovieMan.:up:
i dont doubt him :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Donnie27
i'm just viewing it from another perspective
There is a massive difference on Intel and AMD marketing lately on that point.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
There is 2.66 and 2.93Ghz ES samples out. Plus Intel easily shows off 3.2Ghz and alot higher.
AMD had what speed barcelonas out? And only 1 single 3Ghz that was basicly locked away. Not to talk about the endless FUD slides of how fast it was compared to Core 2s. 50% faster!!!
3Ghz+ is not even a challenge for Nehalems.
where?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintai
oh my friend, if you haven't decided on a career yet definately study to be a diplomat.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
Damn, that was good..:rofl:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/03/i...d-at-computex/Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/37781/135/
But seriously, with ES samples out at 2.93Ghz. You really have any doubt?
His perspectives are indeed interesting :rofl::ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
thats not 3.2GHZ+, but doesnt matterQuote:
Originally Posted by Shintai
i dont have any doubt :) i believe nehalem will OC pretty nicely, my point was just that sometimes not all our dreams or hopes come true, remember phenom....
but some people don't even bother to read that, they just make fun of someone's opinion, even an XS moderator, retardation of society i think
In both of those articles, neither system revealed the true core speed...still speculation. So, I don't see why you would be providing it as fact to support your position. Out of curiosity, do you have links to any information regarding the 2.93ghz ES chips?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintai
2,93ghz - Anand's word as a proof: http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/int...spx?i=3326&p=5
Apparently there is no mention of 3.2ghz, but according to movieman it seems realistic.
When the Clovertowns first came out they were limited to 2667 tops.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
remember, this was December 2006.
The heat issue was killing anyone not on top water or phase.
No one was getting over 3000 on air because of crap heatsinks available back then. I got lucky and matched some Dynatron H46G's to some vantec tornadoes and was able to get 3157 stable and 3258 for benching on air.
Now if some dumb smuck like me can do that then some of the top people in the world are getting a crapload more than 3000 out of the Nehalems.
I rest my case
:(
gotta me save moneeeh!!! :P
That's dumb schmuck.....spell it right!! :rofl::ROTF::rofl::ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
your point being?Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
i dont see any relevance with this, and the thing i posted...
maybe you should become politician, they also start talking about something else....
QFT!:rofl::ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
this is funny, so because people THINK differently about these chips than the amd ones, just cause of that they will OC like mad? I'm sure they will, they are intel, but ur sole reason is what people r thinking?Quote:
Originally Posted by Donnie27
You don't see any relevance because it suits your position to ignore the relevance.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
The relevance is that your saying "show me" clocks over 3000mhz on Nehalem.
My point is and was that if I could clock the clovers way beyond what was seen at the start of release on them then certainly others with greater skills than myself are clocking Nehalem to over 3000mhz and screen shots I've seen bear out my point.
Nehalem has been run to over 3000mhz even if you haven't seen it yourself.
I get what you're saying, you're seeing it from a Phenom prospective, AMD hoodwinked folks. Maybe you're thinking Intel will do the same, that's possible but not likely. The problem is Intel can be scumbags enough to do it but because it is not in their best interests, more than likely they'll not! Sure if Intel needed to, they lie or try to pull a fast one just like AMD did.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
The first Spec test exposed K-10 BTW. "AMD was already faster at that test". Overclocking isn't about a dream come true. It's about credible folks getting their hands on them and passing on that info. MovieMan was trusted before he became a Mod and folks like FuD have proven that they can't be trusted.
Unlike with AMD, folks think after testing and research then come to a conclusion. Many folks here broke records overclocking all kinds of AMD processors. They're not Fanboys because they are now doing the same with Intel processors. If that still was the case (out of nowhere comes great overclocking and performing AMD processors), there'd be a lot less Intel sensationalism and more folks on the AMD side of the forum. Yes I said think, I do mean thinking clearly with an open mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_Sz
The top players who are holding it, officially can not leak anything related to overclocking at an early stage, current Intel X processors sales would suffer a lot due of the act.
SourceQuote:
Originally Posted by Intel's vice president Mentzer
So Intel has clearly decided to embrace the overcloking, no sense would make if they leave this part of the market out. This is a cheap marketing strategy. Nehalem extreme versions will fly.
Metroid.
so when someone says there is proof about 3.2ghz+ nehalems, i may not doubt him..... owkee, i get your point of view, shintai is your friend, not ask too much of him, noo, don't let him show any proof of his argument, way to go, now where not even allowed to doubt a statementQuote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
I don't even want to explain my point for the 3th time....
We have seen Nehalem running at 3.2 right here Hexus. That would be more than enough to back up some claims around here as for the higher frequencies than this, you definitely have the right to doubt or distrust anything because no proofs have been showed of the act. If there is no proof, the claims may be personal, if the claims are personal you can distrust them, simple as that.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
Metroid.
That argument doesn't hold much water as this is exactly what they did for C2D with early OC leaks all over the web.Quote:
Originally Posted by Metroid
Mr. Multithreaded, you'd like it or not, but you'll see Nehalem way above 3GHz as the norm. Get over it. There is no need of repeat MM's arguments again as you will never agree/accept them.
Quote:
Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR
are you stupid or pretending to be?Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
intel was losing in performance back then, so by releasing that stuff, some users might held back on buying A64 because the next best thing was coming, but this time they hold the performance crown, so no need for that kind of marketing, at least that is my opinionQuote:
Originally Posted by LowRun
http://img.hexus.net/v2/internationa...i/Neh2-big.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
There you go and oh, yes, I do consider Shintai a friend.
He isn't as patient as I am but then he's still in his 20's I beleive.
He is also very sharp and knowledable on Intel products.
He may be very straight to the point and not diplomatic but don't let that skew your view of his knowledge level.
i know nehalem exists at a freq of 3.2ghz, but i havent seen any higher clocked nehalems, altough i believe they do exist....Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
i know shintai has a very good knowledge about stuff, altough i dont consider him as a friend
most of the time i can agree with hem, but sometimes he's going too much to the blue side, but i respect someone's opinion (not like you)
in posts #36,41,45 and 58 of this thread it did seem to matter to you but once shown that nehalem has been run at 3200mhz you change your tune.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
It was those posts of yours with doubts about speeds over 3000 that I was addressing and to be blunt now that you've seen it actually will do those speeds you change your tune.
What's that line about arguing on the internet?
Something about like being in the Special olympics.
That's how I feel here.
A question is asked and answered and then you get this " and your point is"
My point is simple, the damned cpu runs over 3000..Period.
It's now proved and your questions are answered.
Lets move on.
I think that was needed at that time, AMD was on top, If Intel does the same right now many people willing to pay for an extreme version will hold on until Nehalem comes, other than that Intel could make a different strategy showing how it does overclock which I think the efforts would not bring any benefit for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by LowRun
Penryn does overclock greatly and many people know it. So if we overclock a Penryn like a QX9770, it may be possible to achieve at 5.0Ghz. That would be equal the performance of a 4.0Ghz Nehalem by my calculations. As far as we know is that Nehalem X versions will come at 3.2 but this is not yet confirmed, it may be coming with a higher frequency but not less I reckon.
It is better to gain profit now rather than later when AMD makes its marketing actions and destabilize Intel sales for something not concrete. AMD loves doing that.
There are many other reasons too like many people do not care about overclocking and buy it to leave at default frequency, some of them have in mind that Nehalem can give like 30% over Penryn but some of them can not wait, 5 months away yet. It depends the situation anyway.
I would wait to see how it overclocks, if Nehalem does not overclock well I would opt for a Q9450 given it can achieve 4.0Ghz, motherboard is another factor as well. Nehalem has good features like hyperthreading, Penryn does not. Penryn does overclock better given the circumstances that we do not know much about Nehalem's overclocking capabilities, but needs a good phase cooling. It is hard, many reasons pondering any buyer.
Metroid.
what part of this sentence is about 3ghz? all my posts were about 3.2GHZ++++++Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintai
second time i quote this movieman
i never changed my tune, read my posts again...
I know why you feel like being in the Special olympics
my point was (4th time) we should be carefull, you never know when a new phenom like thing pops up
i hate repeating myself
So do I.. Fine, it's not 3000 you were talking about it was 3200 but now you've been shown proof that the chip does 3200 so this is all done correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
Don't say yes, don't type anything just nod your head up and down and we will all visualise it from where ever we are.
At this point I will politely ask that you leave this thread.
No, not asking, saying it plain..Stay out of the thread.
I've had enough round and round with you on this.
it was about 3.2GHZ+, which means anything above 3.2 ghzQuote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
nice blackmailing with your mod power though, i just pointed out, that we have to be carefull believing it will be available at high freq speeds, remember phenom
you started laughing me in the face, and now that you can't win the argument, you start to blackmail, aren't you a fine moderator....
i don't know why you are getting pissed like that, maybe your machine isnt crunching fast enough to cure cancer, i dont know, but dont work it out on me
:argue::kittenhat:CTF::brick::explode2::frag::weap on::lsfight:Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
Sometimes I thin this forum is a carousel.
Typical, when you can't win you resort to personal attacks:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
I'm going to reply to you even though I don't think your worth my time.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
You in prior posts made reference that the cpu wouldn't or hadn't been shown to do 3000mhz, I responded that I'd seen screenshots to the contrary.
Then you moved your point to 3200mhz and when shown by Metroid and then by myself that the chip will do 3200 you change to MORE than 3200.
Finally after this back and forth ad nauseum I tell you to stay out of the thread as it's becoming obvious to me that all your doing is looking for an arguement, IE: Trolling the thread what do you do?
You have to come back and open your big mouth, and to try and hurt me you toss in the comment about the machines not being fast enough to cure cancer.
With that one statement you have shown to all the child that resides in that 20 year old body.
Now you can take 7 days to think this over and I warn you, come back in a week and start this crap over and I'll ban your ass till the second coming of Christ!
Yes, you pushed the wrong damned buttons my friend.
I have a long fuse before I get pissed but you burned through all of it.
Let it go.
GoThr3k would be a great religious leader. No matter how much proff you give he just keeps on as it isnt there :p:
You do that when you're behind as clearly Intel was then. They're out front so, no, they'd not do the same thing. Had Barcelona lived up to the hype, we'd not be having this conversation.Quote:
Originally Posted by LowRun
Totally shocking that someone would say something like that:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
Remember that other thread? Here's what I saw.Quote:
Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR
http://img.hexus.net/v2/news/intel/nehalem_roadmap.png
2.66GHz Nehalem starts replacing the 9550 and when I saw it in someone's email LOL!
Gothrek just says there is no proof of 3.2+ghz nehalem, still havent found proof in this thread
Holy cow dude... this is not wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
And he is correct, there has been no CPUID leaked, not screen dumps leaked, just a statement by Tom's journies that they saw one insanely clocked (hardly proof in my book)....Quote:
Originally Posted by -Anti-
The problem though is how he treated movieman.... I have never seen movieman do anything other than treat everyone fairly and squarely.... I love MM's preamble of sorta 'please don't hate me' when is says 'put's mod hat on' when it comes time to calm things down ... frankly, he does it well.
Jack
:ROTF: Gothr3k continues the arguing with a sock puppet.Quote:
Originally Posted by -Anti-
You know Gothr3k, having multiple accounts on XS is forbidden.
About Nehalem, it will clock much higher than what you are thinking. Just stay away from razor blades when it launches and everything is going to be OK. :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
he believes nehalem will ocQuote:
Originally Posted by gOJDO
5 GHz on water? I think it'll be close.
Another unwise movement :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by -Anti-
At least capitalize your first words to look like you're another person :welcome:
Seconded!Quote:
Originally Posted by JumpingJack
Are you guys really that sure Nehalem will OC nicely? (nicely for me meaning 3.6-3.8 on air without too much voltage)
unless they have one, no they are not "really" sure. BUT... due to the fact that they are scaling rather well from 2.6-->3.2 there's a pretty good chance that there's some more headroom in there for those that tweakQuote:
Originally Posted by Neuuubeh
If there's a way the guys here will find it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blauhung
From what I hear even at 3200 these are beasts!:up:
Cripes, the harpertowns at 3200 are huge and Nehalem is better!
I want to know if Nehalem is going to have a Skulltrail 2 :)
I'm going to IP check this and Gothryk's accounts and if the same, have both permabanned and if that doesn't work I'll have the IP banned.Quote:
Originally Posted by -Anti-
What started out as one person refusing to beleive what was put in front of his face has now turned into this guy essentially saying FU to the staff.
That is a no win my friend.
This is not a democracy, it is a benevolent dictatorship.
Play nice and life is wonderful, play nasty and it can feel like a building is falling on you.
When Francois Piednoel was here talking about SkullTrail he mentioned that he and his team were working on ST2..Quote:
Originally Posted by Anemone
That would be a dual Nehalem with DDR3..:up:
EDIT: Just found that Anti and Gothryk are one in the same, same IP..
Big mistake...BIG mistake..:shakes:
It was 7 measly days and now...:rolleyes:
I really don't understand the skepticism on the part of some here, that nehalem will hit 3.2ghz .... seems ludicrous for the architecture not too.
Especially when people in the know, say, yes, it can and has, we just can't tell you yet. Just suspend judgement, it will only be a month or 2 before you know 100%.
Wow, 6" on SPI very soon:D
Because they are nitpicking. Knowing Intels history with overclocking it will hit it with ease. Hell I was getting an extra 250-350mhz in P3 days on air with delta fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by villa1n
Well ... I'm still planning to throw some LN2 at the darn thing later this fall so ... ;)
//Andreas
only if it likes subzero temps. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by NH|Delph1
I can't believe some people still HOPE this cpu will fail. :D:D
:lol2::cat:
:lol2::cat:
great so i can get my hands on a performance chip for about £200-300?
not paying for the waste of money Extreme-edition chips.
Come on MM, it wasn't necessary to check the IP. It was so obvious that Anti is a sock puppet. A newbie registered after Gothr3k has been banned, entering the thread which was the reason for gothr3k's ban and defending him? That is too much coincidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
I bet he'll wait several days and he'll make another account, but from different IP. He is an addict, he can't live without XS. :p:
I understand how you feel but yes it was necessary to know for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by gOJDO
There is a old line that I beleive in:
"Better a 1000 guilty men go free than one innocent be imprisioned"
Before actions are taken against people one has to be 100% sure that they are the guilty party.
The anti account is now gone and Gothr3k is on a 30 day and I hate banning people. I mean that, I love the place and hate to remove anyone but the spammers but when you go round and round and round with a guy and he won't stop, and then when told to leave the thread still posts it's time for action.
Then that cancer comment, yes, pushed my buttons.
What we do in DC is at considerable personal cost but we do it for our kids and everyone elses.
Just think, wouldn't it be an incredible thing that 10 or 20 years down the line we could say we now have cancer beat.
That no kid would ever have to go through that nightmare again.
That's my dream and since the C2D's and Opty's came out we now have the computational power to get the work done.
The machines at my house pull a constant 1500w+ from the wall and you should see my elec bill never mind the parts money involved to run 2 clovers, a harpertown, a Q6600 and yes, an old FX51..
I consulted with one of the staff members on what was proper and the 30 days was the lowest number that was mentioned.
Hopefully he can learn from this.
I'm passing Nehalem and I see no point in upgrade.
10% on single core and 20% on multicore is not enough to consider me buying new : CPU,RAM,mobo and cooling.
Penryn is good enough until cheap octalcores appear which will offer more than 100% multithreaded improvements than quadcore Penryn.
I have no 45nm, heck, no 65nm in my PC. Or maybe the chipset is..
I'm a few generations behind. I'll be waiting patiently for this.:up:
You've seen a handful of tests on a preproduction board with single channel RAm , crappy timings and you've already set your mind on the gains vs. Penryn ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinacolada
Isn't it a bit early ?