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New DFI feature "ABS" (Auto Boost System)
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Not bad, should compliment their CMOS Reloaded feature just nice. Too bad this wasn't on my current UT P35-T2R. Actually, it doesn't seem to be for any of the UT/LT boards, but only their lower ended DK and BI boards?
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is there any bloodiron other than the p35?
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Surprised they didn't call it "automatical boostering system"... read their manuals you'll see what i mean :)
Props for using jboss on all of that tho...
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Well Zolkorn looks like the F1 = help key worked just fine on helping also DFI, no more clearing the CMOS.
This and the double bios supported by DFI are great features on supporting overclockers worldwide.
Thumbs up for DFI.
Metroid.
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I wish they provided this features for my p965-s dark.
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Every PC can be Optimizing, do you looking for some solution?
someone needs to proof read alittle.
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Kunaak
someone needs to proof read alittle.
Engrish :P
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Their slides are actually full of grammatical errors. These features would really encourage the average joe to just his PC.
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So are these essentially just profiles with oc settings? Are they covered by warranty or use at own risk?
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mrcape
So are these essentially just profiles with oc settings? Are they covered by warranty or use at own risk?
it shouldent void anything but the cpu its just a ram epp and cpu bsel, it would be nice to see this from inside windows so u can share your settings and ram tweaks
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Kunaak
someone needs to proof read alittle.
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Faktor
Engrish :P
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fireice2
Their slides are actually full of grammatical errors. These features would really encourage the average joe to just his PC.
just my thoughts, man, it makes this release sound like a lousy fake... :shakes:
but if we forget all this, it seems like a very useful innovation, can't wait for ESP :D
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is DFI a good brand? ive seen alot of people saying that they are sucky :/
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What is this? Is it like CMOS reloaded but with a fancy interface and downloadable profiles? I guess the profiles are a good idea. :shrug: :confused: But as all DFI users know, as far as settings go, one man's treasure is another man's trash. They will certainly be for mild overclocks and with limited RAM timing configurations. Man, even between difference CPU's of the same model there are consistently different (often highly different) needs on the same system. Maybe I'm missing something due to my not studying the images enough to properly translate them to English or the images simply don't reveal too much.
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Blacky
is DFI a good brand? ive seen alot of people saying that they are sucky :/
to like a dfi board u have to know what u are doing, and be smarter than the board
they do exactly what u tell them and wont fix it if u put in a stupid value so they can over or under volt and require u to set your ram timings for good scores but they are forgiving on auto and have a straight forward bios. so if u know what u are doing then they are great and the best that u can get but if u dont know what to do then stay with stuff like asus
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saint-francis
What is this? Is it like CMOS reloaded but with a fancy interface and downloadable profiles? I guess the profiles are a good idea. :shrug: :confused: But as all DFI users know, as far as settings go, one man's treasure is another man's trash. They will certainly be for mild overclocks and with limited RAM timing configurations. Man, even between difference CPU's of the same model there are consistently different (often highly different) needs on the same system. Maybe I'm missing something due to my not studying the images enough to properly translate them to English or the images simply don't reveal too much.
it only looks like it dose 400mhz fsb and most chips are the same to that point and the ram is following epp, its for getting started and to make profiles and boot them without going in the bios, so u could have a green profile with low wattage and a high performance and just hit a key at post and pick one
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Is it really that hard to translate things to English correctly... I understand that there will be errors sometimes in translations but all of DFIs English has like a million errors and it reflects poorly on them.
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They don't use English as their primary language. I may be difficult if they don't hire a marketing specialist who's really good in english.
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n-sanity
Surprised they didn't call it "automatical boostering system"... read their manuals you'll see what i mean :)
Props for using jboss on all of that tho...
LOL i was just thinking that reading over the above slides.. they need a proper person / company to do their English side of things.
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Blacky
is DFI a good brand? ive seen alot of people saying that they are sucky :/
DFI were untouchable in the days of NForce4. Now, they are generally late to market with any given platform and their product is not just complicated, but often riddled with bizarre quirks that only the most patient can tolerate.
Personally, I will not buy another DFI board after the 680i fiasco.
Putting a feature such as ABS on a DFI board would seem to fly in the face of their core value proposition as the ultimate tweaker's board. They have a long way to go before they would be something I would recommend to the casual overclocker... ABS or not.
As for the poor English... that's just laziness... they have a marketing office in San Jose.
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Auto-Ocing for the masses...nice. Now, who's gonna be the first one to stick a smithfield in there and choose the FSB 1333 option :rofl:
Perkam
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perkam
Auto-Ocing for the masses...nice. Now, who's gonna be the first one to stick a smithfield in there and choose the FSB 1333 option :rofl:
Perkam
well most of us can beat easily the 49% OC or whatever this auto oc does but I think this is to make DFI more appealing to the general user who doesn't want to get overwhelmed by their BIOS options, considering DFI has a ton.
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Its not fake, its just a system that makes overclocking very easy to those who don't have the desire to tweak like we all do, plus they have a new system in place for sharing the whole cmos setting section of bios in a file you can upload to the net for other people to use.
OCZ will fully embrace all these new feartures DFI are adding as it will massively help with support issues. Our techs will able able to program bios for end users from windows just by loading a file, so if an end user is pushing a cpu to hard and blaming the ram, upon loading our files if the system checks out OK it should prove to the end user they need to look else where for the cause of their issue.
Overall DFI are building an awesome way for those who buy and never overclock to get that little extra from their systems, knowing that if they down load a pretested file it should be good to go from the reboot.
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Tony
Its not fake, its just a system that makes overclocking very easy to those who don't have the desire to tweak like we all do, plus they have a new system in place for sharing the whole cmos setting section of bios in a file you can upload to the net for other people to use.
OCZ will fully embrace all these new feartures DFI are adding as it will massively help with support issues. Our techs will able able to program bios for end users from windows just by loading a file, so if an end user is pushing a cpu to hard and blaming the ram, upon loading our files if the system checks out OK it should prove to the end user they need to look else where for the cause of their issue.
Overall DFI are building an awesome way for those who buy and never overclock to get that little extra from their systems, knowing that if they down load a pretested file it should be good to go from the reboot.
How is different from preset OC Profiles, Tony? This is far from being the first auto-overclocking tool on the market.
Perkam
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perkam
How is different from preset OC Profiles, Tony? This is far from being the first auto-overclocking tool on the market.
Perkam
Its different in that i can create a profile for say E8500 CPU and 8000 Reaper X. This profile can include all voltages, all ram settings, all FSB and dram ratio's, all skew options. I can also tell the system i want to to boot from the CDrom if needed.
So yes the fixed OC profiles are nothing new, but the ability for me to control your DFI motherboard is new.
I plan on having a repository of profiles which are safe and offer good value with given hardware. Plus end users having issues with ram who say...
" I set XXX fsb and XX ram ratio and the memory errors like mad" will be given an option of allowing OCZ to produce a specific profile for them to test with. If the system is stable after this they need to look at the other aspects of their system to find the fault.
The sharing part is new, the fixed profiles are not that new. What excites me is the ability to program the whole CMOS section of bios for overclocking, no more try this try that and you get an answer that is "where do i find the NB voltage option?" etc, I can do it for them.
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Tony
Its different in that i can create a profile for say E8500 CPU and 8000 Reaper X. This profile can include all voltages, all ram settings, all FSB and dram ratio's, all skew options. I can also tell the system i want to to boot from the CDrom if needed.
So yes the fixed OC profiles are nothing new, but the ability for me to control your DFI motherboard is new.
I plan on having a repository of profiles which are safe and offer good value with given hardware. Plus end users having issues with ram who say...
" I set XXX fsb and XX ram ratio and the memory errors like mad" will be given an option of allowing OCZ to produce a specific profile for them to test with. If the system is stable after this they need to look at the other aspects of their system to find the fault.
The sharing part is new, the fixed profiles are not that new. What excites me is the ability to program the whole CMOS section of bios for overclocking, no more try this try that and you get an answer that is "where do i find the NB voltage option?" etc, I can do it for them.
Dangerous territory m8 :) Why should OCZ offer customers guaranteed overclocks for MORE than just their ram?
What you are talking about is doing the work for them, and for the whole system at that. Admittedly, this will greatly increase the value of OCZ customer loyalty, but that doesn't make it any more feasible for OCZ employees in the long run to be running around making specific profiles for each customer who is able to receive this service, as I understand it, numerous amounts of time as he keeps the same ram throughout his/her upgrade path.
Perkam
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Tony can't you already do this with the winreloaded utility?
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saint-francis
Tony can't you already do this with the winreloaded utility?
Yes but this has a nice GUI to it and a few added features to boot.
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perkam
Dangerous territory m8 :) Why should OCZ offer customers guaranteed overclocks for MORE than just their ram?
What you are talking about is doing the work for them, and for the whole system at that. Admittedly, this will greatly increase the value of OCZ customer loyalty, but that doesn't make it any more feasible for OCZ employees in the long run to be running around making specific profiles for each customer who is able to receive this service, as I understand it, numerous amounts of time as he keeps the same ram throughout his/her upgrade path.
Perkam
Im not talking about running an E8500 at 4.5GHZ, im talking about proving the system will run stable at a given clock we all know is safe.
You obvioulsy have not seen the prime database we have on the OCZ forum or the guides i post there that show safe easy ways to get the best from our product with given platforms.
XS is a small place, the world outside this forum in many cases has no idea what these bios do and how you control them, so sometimes you have to do it for them.
Without going to the Wiki or google, how many here have an idea of what data clock skew does, or DQS skew or what disabling DQS training does? Quite a few XS readers just follow what others have set blindly in the bios profiles i see posted, all I am doing is creating a profile the end user can load and test....no harm in that at all.
We will also NOT create profiles for every end users, there will be generic profiles for ram etc that will have mild CPU overclocks that should work at default or very close to default CPU vcores. The nature of Intel memory overclocking is that in some cases a CPU overclock is needed...we can not get round this unfortunately.
We won't run silly high bus speeds in these profiles, I think you really got the wrong end of what i was saying.
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Tony
Im not talking about running an E8500 at 4.5GHZ, im talking about proving the system will run stable at a given clock we all know is safe.
You obvioulsy have not seen the prime database we have on the OCZ forum or the guides i post there that show safe easy ways to get the best from our product with given platforms.
XS is a small place, the world outside this forum in many cases has no idea what these bios do and how you control them, so sometimes you have to do it for them.
Without going to the Wiki or google, how many here have an idea of what data clock skew does, or DQS skew or what disabling DQS training does? Quite a few XS readers just follow what others have set blindly in the bios profiles i see posted, all I am doing is creating a profile the end user can load and test....no harm in that at all.
We will also NOT create profiles for every end users, there will be generic profiles for ram etc that will have mild CPU overclocks that should work at default or very close to default CPU vcores. The nature of Intel memory overclocking is that in some cases a CPU overclock is needed...we can not get round this unfortunately.
We won't run silly high bus speeds in these profiles, I think you really got the wrong end of what i was saying.
Perhaps. I guess DFI users will be getting a treat from OCZ for upcoming Intel boards which should be a nice thing to see :)
Perkam
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Blacky
is DFI a good brand? ive seen alot of people saying that they are sucky :/
I just love my Lanparty SLI-DR... It's OC capability is 50 times better then their English.. :D
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I'm a big fan of DFI, their boards had and have been very pleasing to me in using them, currently i use DFI LanParty LT X38-T2R, and it has been solid for about 3 months going in. This feature is a nice effort for DFI to broaden their user base, lately their board BIOS has been quite easy & forgiving for noob users in auto mode, but by this feature, those same noobs won't have to work their limited knowledge and take a risk of borking their board, since a decent & safe, preset OCing profile is just one download away.
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how to use this things, im using DK X38 T2R and i press F1 when boot but nothing happen, even the menu for ABS doesnt come out
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As far as I read, everything but the F1 function works on 'older' DFI models.
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perkam
Perhaps. I guess DFI users will be getting a treat from OCZ for upcoming Intel boards which should be a nice thing to see :)
Perkam
Basically, it's an operating system for your BIOS. It's a great idea for those who use to OC heavily in the late 90's and early part of this decade. Some people don't have the time it takes to root out particular problems but still know what they are doing and know what they want from their system.
This will help! At least I hope it will.
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