Not sure if you guys saw this or not...
http://www.nehalemnews.com/2008/06/s...boards-at.html
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Not sure if you guys saw this or not...
http://www.nehalemnews.com/2008/06/s...boards-at.html
Alot of the dual socket board looks like a retard designed them..
They are for servers, they try to work in a good cooling path and space for as many pci-e 8-16x slots for raid cards as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asgard_thor
I like how the mitac board has a mini pci-e slot on it, Intel 4965 AGN on a desktop :D
Clean design of the asus TEB-D board would have me sold.
So these boards are the lga 1366 equivalent to 965? I guess in the future we'll see their versions of 975, p35, x38, p45, x48?
The asus looks like a POS old-school foxconn board I have. I hope the performance is a lot better than the boards look. :p
so none of the core2 motherboards will work with nehalem?
no Nehalem uses different sockets.Quote:
Originally Posted by natty
Does anyone else think ASUS's vanilla board is funny? I mean the company's products have always been easy to spot with contrasting colours and heatpipes all over the place.
yup, but send that supermicro one this way..:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Asgard_thor
The Foxconn and Flextronics boards look SICK.
IX58-max also was a nice design and plenty of power, that might be my next board.
Why is there no x16 slot on the Tyan? Supermicro has some, so why not Tyan? I don't get them...
Don't need a video card for a server.Quote:
Originally Posted by p2501
What gets me is that they _still_ don't have any good dual CPU MB's with 6 PCIx of at least 8x electrical slots. I mean come on now, for server systems who wants to be capped at ~1GiB/sec w/ PCI-X? It's been how many years now w/ serial interconnect technology, drop the bloody parallel crap.
Some of the mobos has no heatsink on the chipset and wow, look at the size of the die too. Its huge.
Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by stevecs
My SM X7DWA-N has 2-PCI-e rev 2 X16 slots..
One for your vid, one for your Areca card.
Problem solved..:up:
I was wondering how good your sli works on your skulltrail fugger.........cuz im really tired of my 780i
Yes, and the Supermicro is no server board. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by alucasa
You can plug an x8 card into an x16 slot, so I'm questioning the fact that Tyan is a bit short-sighted IMO, it's about versatility. No need to try and convince me of your definition of a server board.
Lets be nice here.Quote:
Originally Posted by p2501
There are many definitions of a server board.
Some see them as any board with 2 sockets.
I see the ones with X16 slots as workstation boards and the ones with onboard vid as true server boards.
All these companies will have lines of boards, not just the ones shown here so I expect that all will have both types.
Remember, it's early and we're just seeing the start here.:up:
SLI works fine and even better with oc past 4Ghz, no issues at all.
The nv100 bridge chip is a bit limiting compared to the nv200 chip on 790i for bandwitdth and sli communication when benching at very high speeds but at or near stock it is not an issue. ST is very stable and highest quality, if i had any stability problems I would be using a different board. I wish there was more game that took advantage of all the cores with the exception of the ageia physx driver.
That said by movieman, all the other boards are crap ;) I know which one he's gonna pick.......super micro cuz after you buy it and 2 nehalems you will need a super micro to see just the tiniest speck of dust in your wallet......thats if you didn't sell the wallet also :ROTF:
My wallet hasn't had anything in it since divorce #2 back in 2000.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
One sometimes has tro get creative to accomplish ones goals.
As to buying Supermicro boards, I've bought four of them.
S2DGU; $25.00
S2QR6,plus cube case;$127.50 and shipping
X5DAE;$266.00
X6DA8-G2: $479.95
The clovertown boards came in through "deals"..
No, don't ask..:p:
Hmmm gonna have to add a sig like mine ;) will do favors err deals yah thats it for nehalem equipment :rofl:
There's a pic a guy posted here a few days ago that shows the feet of two guys in a shower..One pair behind the other.. bar of soap on the floor with this title..Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Don't do it!:rofl:
I was going to take it and change the title to :
Will bend over for Nehalem!:p:
I would consider Flextronics TX65H as workstation board, but I can't consider Supermicro X8DTN+ anything other than server board.
They are going to have more variety available anyway.
OT, since when MSI entered server market ?
time to buy all new heatsinks and waterblocks for that CPU...... here we go again...
Yea, I was thinking that too. I like it's design. Simple. Straightforward.Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
correct in most cases but as you know server market is always wide spread, some only need onboard others needs lots of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by alucasa
one we use for rendering now.... 11 x pci-e slots
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en...3-3716072.html
Quote:
Originally Posted by systemviper
Or buy a $10~ adapter plate for your current waterblock :)
Yep, gotta get adapter plate for my Swiftech Apogee GTX coppertop block :(
These are probably non or half working engineering samples. ASUS won't make extra high end engineering samples, because lots of non working ES boards are trashed out, and thats why first boards are always minimalistic. Probably lots, if not all boards seen in pictures will hit retail with little different layout or different components on board.Quote:
Originally Posted by MomijiTMO
Problem is that I'm trying to build up a new system to replace my current one and it will have 3-4 areca cards in it. Plus SAS card for tape backup unit. I'm out of space on my current array and need to build up a much larger/faster system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
Long time ago. :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by alucasa
I wouldn't mind Nehalem DP workstation boards and a pair of Nehalem chips... :p:
The dual boards, what memory do they use? Registered or FB-DIMMs?
Keep in mind that the memory controller is on the CPU die... therefore Bloomfield dual-socket boards will use the same DDR3 as desktop boards.
Gainstown may introduce a different IMC that uses other memory technology but Bloomfield is DDR3 only.
Cheers,
-Chris.
Not necessarily, not even likely. The memory controllers in K8 could also deal with unregistered and registered DDR1 and later DDR2. The mainboard (BIOS to be precise) nails down which one is required.Quote:
Originally Posted by virtualrain
You have a point that FB-DIMMs are overall unlikely. It's probably too complicated to put a memory controller onto the die that does unreg and FB-DIMMs. And it isn't as required as it was for socket 771 because now you can have one memory bank per CPU, avoiding the huge bank mess that 771 ran into.
That still leaves registered or unregistered as choices.
Good points. In addition, I'm confusing the code-names... Gainstown is the dual-socket server variant of Nehalem, and although it will support DDR3, there's no information on whether it's registered or not.
FB-DIMMs are gone.
It will be regular or registered DDR3.
nah its still there, it only has moved on notch up. -> DP server RDDR3, MP server FP-DIMMs. At least that was the last thing i heard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan
Can a volunteer from the Intel section make a sticky about the X58 boards from all the manufacturers?
Me needs to see zem :slobber:
Perkam
Yeah, I mean, we've seen them before but if anyone has large, Drool-Ready™ photos of them (especially the abit IX58-MAX) that would be nice. :D
wow, all these perfect upgrades are coming out of the woodwork :) The Ix-58 looks like a nice fit, with a 2.93ghz nehalem... now i just have to see if it its ATI fun party time again with the 4870x2.:up:
See the link in the OP... they are all on Nehalem News.Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
<Gulp> :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by stevecs
aww asus's board went back to the poopie brown color. what a turn off. they should have stayed with black PCB
The Intel board seems to have one of the better layouts IMHO
The Abit board is just pure Pr0n :yepp:
yup, i think that's how i have heard it. Also since Bloomfield and Gainstown are phisically the same product and just finalized differently durring assembly for the extra QPI link, there really isn't anything prventing the Gainstown chips from using unregistered ddr3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
I'm not sure but i think there's also something new about how buffering works on MP. You'll probably see more on that later when Beckton starts getting talked about more..
Basically the workstation DP segment is now DDR3 (registered or unregistered), and the servers are FB-DIMM?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blauhung
yup, pretty much :up:
:confused: they look like any other dual socket board, just that the nb is missing...Quote:
Originally Posted by Asgard_thor
They have a nb, they just don't have to squeeze it in between the sockets and the memory anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
Socket placement is loads better now :D
dual real CPU and 8x4=32 GB of Ram would be soooo sweet~~
Well, depends on what you're doing with your server. If, say the server is going to be used in a render farm, it will most definitely need a video card.Quote:
Originally Posted by alucasa
It's actually tri channel now, so each CPU has 6 slots.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetete
12x4 = 48 GB :D
Supermicro: 18x4 = 72 GB :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan
this is the real one
http://www.zix.co.il/images/z-977168667.jpg
when are these due out?
late this year?
Q4 08. So yeah, late this year. There's more info in the other thread (nehalem ep bloomfield or somethingorother).Quote:
Originally Posted by disruptfam
Bloomfield and Gainestown are due in Q4, with the rest of the range launching in a H1 2009 timeframe.Quote:
Originally Posted by disruptfam
Thats amazing..............I remember my old E6600 ES was only getting low ~12s @ 3.8GHz :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by roy_bono
I hear the DP Nehalem boards will use unbuffered ECC DDR3-1333 memoryQuote:
Originally Posted by uOpt
How do people tell the difference between 6/8/12 phase designs? I happen to like Gigabyte BTW:p:
Typically you can count the number of chokes.
Number of chokes gives you an idea of all "theoretical" phases. Gigabyte uses a simulated 12, 6 actual phase controller. Each phase of it's controller is doubled up to give you a simulated 12 phases and increased current handling capacity. You can get into the nitty gritty by figuring out what current balancing controller the board uses, most are either 4 or 8 phase.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingcarcas