Thats it folks you read that right the D-Tek Fuzion V2 has launched today :D
http://www.aqua-pcs.co.uk/ekmps/shop.../fuzion-v2.jpg
To celebrate the event there is a short video here
The block is currently instock here
:rolleyes:
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Thats it folks you read that right the D-Tek Fuzion V2 has launched today :D
http://www.aqua-pcs.co.uk/ekmps/shop.../fuzion-v2.jpg
To celebrate the event there is a short video here
The block is currently instock here
:rolleyes:
Hmm..
Pro mount as stock.
More space between fittings - looks weird thou
and the top is more round..
Looks like good improvements for almost same price - but not for the temperature..
strange, no news or official announcement on their site
what's with "GONG" the friggin "GONG" mu "GONG" sic?
interesting tho...
Awesome stuff.
I nearly bought one two weeks ago.
Yeah, when I had email conversation with Aaron Lord @ Petras he mentioned that it was possible that next restocking would be the V2. But as it seems they got the V1, means that I will get it as well.
looks slick!
Hmmm looks like you have to take the mobo out everything you unmount and remount the block. I fail to see how the back plate will stay in place while you try to screw it on while the mobo is vertical inside the case.
Double sided tape is your friend ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
Double sided tape will still peel away...
I've had to take screwdrivers to some backplates as they were stuck on so well they would not budge. This was the case with my old Scythe Ninja Backplate.
are there any performance benefits on this? id love to see some tests on it!:D
yep, looks exactly like the mounting kit for a TRUE. with the TRUE you have to press very hard on the screw and turn your screwdriver at the same time. to install vertical you have to have alteast 1 of the screws screwed in so the backplate doesn't fall but it's still much more difficult (for me anyway)Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
I take it has the same guts in a new package
I had the same problem and when I finally got it off it took the motherboard with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frag_Lord
Im in dire need of a new block, glad this is out.
Uh.. why not just lay the case on its side to do the block mount?Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
still 2x 1/2" ID bitspower will not fit :(
Looks slick!
The site says "Optional Quadcore Block Insert".. I guess this means they'll give you the possibility for bowing then. Nice! No trying around with different O-Ring sizes.. :)
Edit: Hmh, it's not for bowing it's a complete quad midplate with nozzle. Like everyone already noticed. Just ignore my stupid comment then. Still I want to know if this performs better than the old one..
As for the mount, you can use the pro mount with studs, I do. Just flip it upside down, reattach it to the block and use your studs... The V2 is very nice, had mine for a while now.
And? Compared to the original?
Im not sure this was supposed to be released today ?
I wont be suprised to see this thread vanish ....
Also performance figures are better - but i guess the shop posting this is just going for "OMG WE HAVE THESE IN STOCK" rather than informing the community whats new and improved about it.
My 2cents anyway
this really came out of nowhere..
The would you like to inform us Tom? :D
Im not sure im allowed too??? I was told not to say anything until DTEK did a press release for it..Quote:
Originally Posted by I34z1k
guess the cat's already out of the bag..
The release date specified by Daniel @ D-tek was this Friday :rolleyes:
and im sure you would have posted it if you go there first ;)
we have got these instock and have had a sample block since the start of the week and there will be a longer insight and testing results posted shortly :cool:
Damn I was just about to order some stuff from Petra's lol. Guess I will wait and see how these turn out.
I'm mostly interrested in the space between the barbs, as I would like to use some 3/8" - 1/2" things on it :)
The space between the fitting is still not great but it has been improved. In the video we used the 1/2" barbs and XSPC UV orange 1/2" hose (thick walled) and you can still have two jubilee clips side by side no problems.
do you know if bitspower compression fittings will fit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aqua-Pc's
thats v2? hum i had pics of these months ago thinking that it was the first prototype... lol looks pretty nice, its about time dtek did something new
Im not sure - we havent had our delivery of the fittings just yet but i would say it looks promisingQuote:
Originally Posted by RAID
Do you think that 12/19 tygon fit on this block ?
Yes :)
the specs of the tubing used in the video are as follows:
XSPC 1/2" ID Flexible tubing
- 1/2" (13mm) Inner Diameter
- 1/8" (1.5mm) Wall Thickness
- 3/4" (19mm) Outer Diameter
- Stain Resistant
- Max Temperature 60ºC
- Min Temperature -32ºC
- Designed for use with 1/2" barbs
are the internals the same?
if this performs better than the original i'll buy 5.
Also will the current nozzles work with this?
Quote:
Originally Posted by disruptfam
The nozzles will work fine - testbeds have so far yielded better temps than the orginal too
There is a special quad core insert which is optimised better than the quad nozzle from the original nozzle packs
Thats a whole lotta nozzles
when is petra's getting it?
i'ma get me a few of these
Time zones :p: the pages are there just hidden (where do you think we got the product info from :))Quote:
Originally Posted by RealRedRaider
US retailers also have stock so id keep an eye on their sites ;)
http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/prod...roducts_id=629
Thats the specific nozzle for Quads, requires a full strip down and rebuild.
http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/imag...2_Q-insert.jpg
is it the whole mid plate? or just the nozzle like V1
The whole plate :cool:
interesting, thats a channel for an oring i see right?
mid plate is similar to what i designed sometime ago. :(
just in a different order.. eh
pic if anyones interested
edit:
nozzle looks quite restrictive
Grr, and here I go, and buy the best parts.. only to have them come out with something better while i'm sitting here waiting for my case.
I wonder if they can come up with a quad nozzle that performs like the new one? Something that actually compresses the streams instead of just dividing them.
Dangit! I ordered a fuzion on wednesday!!!!:shakes:
Well, we'll see how V1 and V2 stack up performance wise.......
It looks wicked though! Ugh.... :shakes:
What's the chance that the new quad midplate works with v1?
EDIT: NV. Petras has the V2.Quote:
Originally Posted by smee
It's already on the front page of the website--they arrived this morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by disruptfam
i'll stick with my 3 ek supremes. My 2 x V1 d-tek fusions are still kick ass in the flow department. Something very nice in a low noise system.
Im guessing D-tek is giving up on the flow department. This looks a bit more restrictive then there V1 block, which means there beef'd up the accelerators for faster push over. So yeah as wels puts it, it would perform better, but im sure there is a pressure/flow reduction cost to it. :T
mmmm i wonder how it would stack up to the new ek accelerators.
This block looks really nice and all the stuf you get it awesome!
So Im just about the land an order at chilled i think, but the shipping is evil, but the £ is nice and cheap for a Dane atm... so i'll go think more about that..
Quote:
Originally Posted by Petra
Oh very kewl! :up: That means that I'll get it after all!
yay just ordered mine :)
So does this new kit come with the nozzles included
Me too! =) Can't wait to go pick it up tomorrow!! :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by evil-98
Thanks Alex!!
Wow, Dtek did it again :up:, I wanna see some results before I replace my V1 with this.
Waiting for your experience with V2 Evil-98 and Smee
Yep, don't worry, I'll be posting my comparison results, as I have a Fuzion V1 and V2 on it's way! So I will be doing lots of testing over the weekend, remounts and different nozzels, etc etc etc.... :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by ANP !!!
Can't wait!!! :D
Sometimes in a watercooled case, flipping the case on its side can cause issues. Also I have a cube case so flipping it is not an option.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kilyin
Uhh, isn't tomorrow Saturday? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by smee
Well, yes and no... The main difference between the original FuZion and the v2 is that they o-ring sealed the block's inlet pathway/upper chamber (does the same job as the gasket that is included with the nozzle kit). The nozzle inserts themselves (which are not included) will still yield a performance increase in the same way that they did in the original FuZion; however, there is now a special quad core midplate for the FuZion v2 (which is a replacement to the quad nozzle that's included with the nozzle kit). So, the only reason to buy the old nozzle kit would be if you wanted to use any of the single-opening nozzles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brave758
Uh, oops! Just realized your not open over the weekend....Quote:
Originally Posted by Petra
I'll see if I can come down there today, if not then it'll have to be monday. :D
Thanks Alex!
~Parker
you got it :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by ANP !!!
i planning a review maybe sorta :rolleyes:
That block is beautiful. Once I can see how it performs I think I will have to get me one of them for a new build.
I have just ordered one aswell :D
Looking forward into it.
Ah crap! yeah I have to say that as my first post. This is so frustrating, I just ordered the v1 dtek version 2 days ago. It just sucks for me since having it shipped to my country is like almost paying the item twice, and now its obsolete already *sigh
not true, we dont know how well v2 preforms yet, and regardless you still got an amazing blockQuote:
Originally Posted by Gunther04
Yes indeed, the FuZion IS an amazing block. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by evil-98
Welcome to Watercooling/enthusiast computing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunther04
Lol...You must live far. DTEK v1 works just as great when comes to overclocking. I can say most of today's overclockers are still using them as their mainstream. The v2 looks alike to be the same made, so be sure to clean it up before using. Although, i'm impressed they made an upgrade and some changes. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunther04
QFT :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by WoZZeR999
edit:
PETRA's rules.. they shipped already :)
Yeah, thanks for the warm welcome and giving me an idea on what to expect on investing on watercooling :DQuote:
Originally Posted by WoZZeR999
I guess im having signs of having bad luck already with preparing my first watercooling rig :( First is that I am having no luck contacting anyone on ekwaterblocks online store for the status about my order of gx2 waterblock for 3 days now and now this... could it be that I am not meant to continue my watercooling adventures? :ROTF:
It's the hazing of watercooling. It feels like crap for a little while, until you join the brotherhood of cooler and quieter systems. Try sending Eddy a pm directly.
We all (or at least most of us) had our first, "Huh, this isn't as good as all the hype", until you get into the 'flow' of water cooling. Endure it, and your patience will be rewarded. :)
You're still in the ORDERING stage, just wait until you make your first 114 mistakes in the build. Nobody gets the hang of it until their 2nd or third time.
Who's sending theirs to Martinm for flow testing? ;)
Do they include the 0.50 Cent allen wrench in this package not like there V1 package ?
I sent them a nasty email regarding the allen wrench . You spend 70$ on a block and you don't even get the allen wrench .
I just bought my V1 this week and honesty I'm pissed off . I hate when this :banana::banana::banana::banana: happens.
Just ordered one. :) No need to upgrade or whatever, but it just looks so great and will probably perform a tiny bit better than my current Supreme. Now find me some white gloves just like in that video. ;)
Just ordered one too. Thx Quoc. :up:
My sample block didn't... but, after checking a few boxes, it looks like all of the final retail blocks do include a hex key to take the block apart.Quote:
Originally Posted by leoftw
I like the looks and after seeing the lack of consistency in the V1 mounting, I'm thinking the pro mount for V1 or this new mounting on V2 should help with consistency of mounts.
The only performance difference I can see is the sealed chamber which you already get with the nozzle kit using the washer.
That's still good though, I think the washer in the stock kit does MOST of the performance advantage of the nozzle kit. And the pro-mount of the V1 is now standard in V2.
Looks to me like:
Performance would be the same unless you're comparing V1 without a washer.
V2 = V1 + Nozzle Washer
and you get one more quad nozzle option.
Only thing I can't see is if this new midplate/o-ring bowes the base more than the V1 Fuzion midplate does. That could have some advantage over V1 in a more bowed base. You could still do that with V1 by using an o-ring instead of the kit washer, but it's not part of any kit.
That would be because EK are on holiday till Tues / wens :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunther04
short answer is yes although there have been comments about this made already and i know D-Tek is working on something better.Quote:
Originally Posted by leoftw
We actually got the D-Tek FuZion V2 in today, and that is the one you are receiving for your order.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zehnsucht
:welcome:
Anyone who tested the v2
sweet going to order 2 w/the quad core insert plate :)
erm any benefits over the old one , i like to look of the old one better [puts on flack jacket]
I've ordered mine too. Still waiting...Maybe some of the people have already tested but still PSing the photos. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by 71 (Bryan)
I like the newer smooth lines. Kind of reminds me of a headcrab on Half Life..:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by 71 (Bryan)
The solidly attached lower mounts should help with mounting consistency, I like the lower mount.:)
now who's sending one over to martin?
Definitely easier to mount and looks slick. Useless areas are been removed and, reconstructed the inside! Copper plate been enhanced for better conductivity!! Can't wait the results and tests. :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinm210
You, duh. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by disruptfam
Wow Admin Is Here Hoping For Results?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...5&postcount=73Quote:
Originally Posted by disruptfam
:rolleyes:;)
crap. draining my system is such a pita...
WHY DID YOU HAVE TO DO THIS TO ME D-TEK?!? I THOUGHT THAT MY LOOP WAS COMPLETE :(
seriously though, how much better do these perform than the v1's w/ quad nozzle. im a friggin addict and my computer doesnt stay assembled for more than 2 weeks at a time. some one help me with this addiction :(
i wonders if the quad mid-plate would fit on the v1
Ahh crap! :rolleyes: Why does I'm always the last to know about these things :D They should have at least made an announcement from their website about a long holiday (unless im completely blind and missed it)Quote:
Originally Posted by Aqua-Pc's
I jsut hope they wont get mad at me once they're back because I'd sent a lot of emails to them for follow-ups and order cancellation :eek:
Actually I'm doing thermal testing on my V1 as we speak. I've already run 5 mounts on the stock, and now on the 3rd mount for a 4.5mm nozzle plus washer. I'll post some results later this weekend.:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Polizei
Bravo to D-Tek for publishing more scientific data...:up:
This is the new curve they have published, at about 2 GPM, pressure drop is about 3 PSI, so it's a bit more restrictive than the V1.
http://www.dtekcustoms.com/ProductIm...erformance.jpg
Here is the old V1 curve they had published:
http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/sidew...uziongraph.gif
http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/sidew...uzionchart.gif
So it's about 36% more restrictive than the original curve.
And these were my own results of V1. From my own testing I recorded the V1 plus washer plus quad core nozzle to be about equal to their V2 curve.
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/303...summaryto3.jpg
So it's a bit more restrictive, but I think it's a fair trade to seal that internal leak.:up:
I WAS CHECKING THAT DATA! IT SEEM IMPROVED, BUT WE NEED A SAMPLE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinm210
Per the C/W data, at 2GPM the difference is .04C/W so for a 100 watt heat load the improvemnt would be .4C.Quote:
Originally Posted by xtclocker
I'm just not sure what the original c/w curves were based on. I found the pressure drop curve that was posted for V1 actually was much closer to matching restriction similar to the V1 with washer than the V1 without washer, but my block was previously bowed, so I couldn't say for sure.
Trying to measure .4C differences on a block is pretty tricky though when you can have up to 2C error between mounts. It would take alot of testing mounts.
Everything effects the result, BTW I love your short answer, I feel better now...
I've seen this question asked a couple times with no answer given.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
No, the Delrin sections of the v2 (internally and externally) are vastly different from the v1. The v1 has a solid mid plate that is also external whereas the mid plate on the v2 is completely internal.
Ahh... I got that wrong
At 2GPM
V1= .028
V2=.025
Difference = .003c/w
.003C/W x 100 watts = .3C
But the quads run up to 200 watts or so I've heard, so the gain could be more with those hotter quads. They also seem to have put some extra emphasis in that quad nozzle, so who knows how that does.