Foxconn Blackops. 9800GX2 (28.9K 06)

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03-28-2008, 05:10 PM
SF3D

Foxconn Blackops. 9800GX2 (28.9K 06)

I see so many 9800GX2 threads here :D

Well these are my first test. I got this card yesterday, so I haven't got much time to play with it.

Messy setup:
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00645/1832454.jpg

This wasn't good bench day at all. Everything that can go wrong, did go wrong :D All parts are still working, so I quess everything is ok after all.
I could be the happy 29K result owner, but 06 test always crashed at some point. I tested it about 100 times today :rolleyes:

And last thing is the driver. I did tests with 174.74 and 01 was bad.

Ok.. the screens now.

06: (28915)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00575/1832440.jpg

05: (36765)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00753/1832442.jpg

03: (86225)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00853/1832444.jpg

01: (107420) :mad:
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00924/1832446.jpg

AM3: (335.610)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00225/1832448.jpg

More to come when I get everything work like they should. GPUs could also be more cold than with stock air.
03-28-2008, 05:17 PM
Zannema

Really nice start SF3D, i've some problem with 06 and 01, the score is low :shakes: :shakes: :shakes:

What brand is your 9800GX2???
03-28-2008, 05:19 PM
Turrican

nice :D
keep pushing bro :toast:
03-28-2008, 05:32 PM
dpa

nice scores my friend!! good cpu clocks there to!
03-28-2008, 06:19 PM
DMH

5.6Ghz CPU very nice,couldn't you CPU speed be faster on 01?Does it still have a few more megahertz?Congrat's on the scores and better results next time
03-28-2008, 06:34 PM
PPInDaHouse

As he already said he hadnt got much time to play yet, Im sure we will see higher numbers soon :)
03-28-2008, 11:44 PM
Solarfall

kwel numbers petri, keep pushing it ...damn i wanna foxconn blackops board too lol
03-29-2008, 02:16 AM
M3kk

Nice scores man :).

Look at my 2k1

http://forum.crazypc.ro/attachment.p...4&d=1206745556

Next time try 173.67 its faster , as you can see in my CH :D.
03-29-2008, 02:22 AM
SF3D

Thanks guys!

Yes I had a lot problems yesterday. For some reason board didn't work like it should. Cpu can do 3DM06 test at 5.75GH (13x442MHz). Score would have been great with that speed.

This morning I did some more benching, but couldn't get any better results.

Little improvement in 01:
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00213/1833400.jpg

E: I didn't remember to open details window in that screenshot. Look at that car high :rofl: Here is orb link: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9356215
03-29-2008, 02:26 AM
SIOUX

Very nice :toast: The reason your 01 is low, is that you MUST use the 173.67 driver, og CH will be low by 50-60fps. use the that driver, and it will fly :)
03-29-2008, 02:29 AM
SF3D

Damn. I didn't have enough time to test different drivers. Those drivers that I did use are good for 06 though.
03-29-2008, 03:24 AM
Oliver

Not bad at all...

Good to see your playing with gx2...

Keep pushing it.
03-29-2008, 05:59 AM
Zannema

Quote:

Originally Posted by SF3D

Damn. I didn't have enough time to test different drivers. Those drivers that I did use are good for 06 though.

I don't understand because my nature is badder of your :mad: :mad:
03-29-2008, 06:13 AM
lukas69

Great score Emanuele
:up:
03-29-2008, 06:45 AM
SF3D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zannema

I don't understand because my nature is badder of your :mad: :mad:

It must be the drivers or your card is not stable. I think it is the driver.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lukas69

Great score Emanuele
:up:

Wrong thread, but Emanueles score is great :D
03-29-2008, 07:02 AM
k|ngp|n

Very nice SF3D...which driver was the best for 2006 for you?
03-29-2008, 07:25 AM
SF3D

Quote:

Originally Posted by k|ngp|n

Very nice SF3D...which driver was the best for 2006 for you?

Thanks! I think the latest is the best for 06.

By the way. Did you suffer any black screens during your bench session? Did you mod the PCI-E chip voltage?

I had some black screen problems if voltage were over 1.35V or the reason was clock speed. (over 830MHz and PCI-E chip couldn't handle it?)
03-29-2008, 07:29 AM
SIOUX

Quote:

Originally Posted by SF3D

Thanks! I think the latest is the best for 06.

By the way. Did you suffer any black screens during your bench session? Did you mod the PCI-E chip voltage?

I had some black screen problems if voltage were over 1.35V or the reason was clock speed. (over 830MHz and PCI-E chip couldn't handle it?)

Its seems to have some kind of OVP close to 1.4v. I know Vince have seen that, and myself also .....some cards dont seem to have it though. maybe we should try a different BIOS?
03-29-2008, 10:34 AM
SF3D

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIOUX

Its seems to have some kind of OVP close to 1.4v. I know Vince have seen that, and myself also .....some cards dont seem to have it though. maybe we should try a different BIOS?

I have to start looking what is causing this.

Hardest tests are 3DM06 GT2 and 03 GT 3/4. Same tests are the hardest for 3870X2 too. That's the reason why I thought about the PCI-E chip. Too much traffic through one chip.. I hope that's not the reason.
03-29-2008, 12:35 PM
DStealth

Quote:

Originally Posted by SF3D

...Too much traffic through one chip.. I hope that's not the reason.

Yes ... i've got the same problem...PCI-e can't handle that much of а traffic , i got a lot of black screens and hang-ups during my test with PCI-e over 115-120 mhz
Never happen before , i was thinking it's driver related (174.74), but it occur even with the official ones ...:shrug:
Though i manage to break 10k SM2 and near 11k SM3 with fully stock and unmoded GX2 from Gigabyte....
21602
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1...1602rg0.th.jpg
03-29-2008, 04:22 PM
SF3D

DStealth- I will test what PCI-E speed does to my black screen issues. I don't think it will have any affect :shrug: (I was talking about the onboard PCI-E link chip) I think this issue is similar as 7900GT black screens.

Does someone know more about the volterra 1165 controller circuit? It would be nice to see pin layout.
03-29-2008, 04:53 PM
ZoLKoRn

Woot.. greats score from your first start :up: wait to see more better results

Keep pushing it :D
03-30-2008, 02:31 AM
SF3D

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZoLKoRn

Woot.. greats score from your first start :up: wait to see more better results

Keep pushing it :D

Thanks mate! Better scores will be coming :D
03-30-2008, 06:40 AM
Zannema

SF3D : How set the freq of PCI-EX???

Edit: i test 174.74 beta and 01 is little better than with 173.67
03-30-2008, 01:22 PM
SF3D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zannema

SF3D : How set the freq of PCI-EX???

Edit: i test 174.74 beta and 01 is little better than with 173.67

Hi mate. What PCI-E MHz I used? From 101MHz to 120MHz, but it didn't make any difference. Only car high is bad with 174.74
03-30-2008, 03:17 PM
SF3D

Hmmm.. some 9800GX2 investigations

Me and Zannema was playing little detectives tonight and we found out, that 9800GX2 might be using same PCI-E overclocking method as 9600GT.

Everything else at same speed. Only PCI-E frequency raise.

First only PCI-E frequency raising. ( everyting else at same speed in every run)

100MHz PCI-E = 76.106
105MHz PCI-E = 77.410
110MHz PCI-E = 78.788
115MHz PCI-E = 80.554

If it uses same pattern as 9600GT, the first frequencys are equal to GPU speeds 600 / 636 / 669 / 709 and so on...

Then we tested little more, but now we raise only GPU clocks:

100MHz PCI-E + 660MHz gpu speed = 78.230 (same as 110MHz PCI-E only)
100MHz PCI-E + 700MHz gpu speed = 79.100 (no score to compare, cause 709MHz is the next step)

Then we do the combination test:
105MHz PCI-E + 630MHz gpu speed = 78.6 (the same score as 110MHz PCI-E or PCI-E 100MHz and gpu 660MHz)

So, these cards are having the same PCI-E overclocking method as in 9600GT. If you set your PCI-E frequency higher, graphics card will automatically overclock.

If this is true, we have to know the exact steps. Or if you use 100mhz PCI-E speed, you can find the limit of your VGA. After that you can calculate what PCI-E speed you can use and how much oc your vga can take after that.

One Rivatuner update please :up:
03-30-2008, 03:26 PM
Zannema

Yes, test in HDR1 (Canyon flight), i think that if overclock the PCI-Ex it have little better performance because you clock the GPU and the freq of PCI-Ex
03-30-2008, 04:52 PM
PPInDaHouse

nice find there, probably the other cards of this new generation use the same method no?
03-31-2008, 01:26 AM
SF3D

Quote:

Originally Posted by PPInDaHouse

nice find there, probably the other cards of this new generation use the same method no?

I think all 9-series cards will use this. Maybe 9800GTX owners could try this out?

Too bad I can't test this feature on BlackOPS. For some reason it doesn't work on this board.

By the way. My card does 820/2100 on 1.21V on air. It doesn't clock any higher if extra voltage is added. Weird :shrug:

Maybe we need new bios or bios editor.