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codename "Smackover"
notice just under the last pci 1x slot "eat at Joes, order the smackover special"
looks like someone got ahold of a validaion board for the next followon to Bone Trail:p:
server board?
hooooooooooot :)
lol skull sketch on the PCB and all heheh
Are those memory chips under the cpu socket?
inductorsQuote:
Originally Posted by shiznit93
Prep board for Smackover? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Blauhung
Someone yanked the heatsink off... :)
whats the spec of bloomfield again?
the 3 dimm slots all coloured the same has me confused...
i remember some nehalem platform having tri-channel RAM..
Interesting layout though being pre production it could end up looking like most boards in use now
That looks really nice =0
Wow! That's pretty cool how they are doing the layout. I like variety in mobo layouts. Seems like we've had our current layouts for years and year now. Interesting to see the NB (or is it East Bridge now :-p) where it is and the memory slots where they are too.
yes on the 3 channel memory
layout is different, because now rather then having to minimize the trace length between northbridge and memory, you minimize cpu to memory traces. frees up lots of room for vrm stuff.
Some double, some triple, according to Wiki:Quote:
Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nehalem...rchitecture%29
"Also, three models of Bloomfield are expected to be released, with prices expected to be more than $266 at launch. Its corresponding Tylersburg chipset supports dual channel and triple channel RAM, and a maximum of 24 GB RAM. Tylersburg will also support Quad CrossFireX."
:)
OK, so that board made me smile. How the hell did Intel do that? :shocked:
SLI license?
*runs away* :wasntme:
Useless.
Me wanna see some real nice Nehalem board.
It is a Nehalem board, Nehalem is called Gainstown in dp servers, and Bloomfield in desktop.
argghhhh!!!11
quad-mounting holes for the chipset heatsink
and the CPU-socket retension mechanism can be unscrewed and completely removed
/creams pants
must... mod....
Sure i know. But the board is not nice. This should be obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blauhung
Love all the memory traces going out of the socket. Not too smart having the PWM "below" the socket as heat rises. I liked having the PWM on the edge of the board with LGA775. I liked the LGA775 setup more than this but the PCIe/PCI setup is more important. Please bury that PCI slot and put a 3rd PCIe slot in there. Would love to see x16, x1, x16, x1, x16, x1. Enough spacing for big pots for CrossFire and 2-slot coolers for Tri-Fire.
Is there still a NB needed? Why not just a SB like on AMD K8 platforms?
Why only 6 slots? Seems like the VRM stuff is consuming way too much real-estate.
I'm liking the sounds of running tri-channel 3x2GB of DDR3! Will the on-die MCH run 1T? :D
It's funny but the Nahelem stuff is like a trip back in time to K8 days.
maybe the 'NB' (the heatsink-less chip thingy) that is seen is like the 'NB' on (ie) DFI CFX3200 - that was merely a chip (RD580) providing PCI-Express lanes/connection. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by virtualrain
Hey, didn't you all notice??
They screwed up..
Forgot one of the cpu sockets!:D
No 4 or 8 pin connector other than the molex near the first PCIe slot..
speaking of which that PCIe x4 is kinda funny its open ended AND has a clip to hook in a video card i guess ... interesting
And where is the 24 pin? Am I missing it???Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkeye4077
No, that'll be LGA1567 which is a server board. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
Is that the 8pin CPU connector in the middle of the motherboard?
I like the layout of all the fan headers though.
Probably just missing it. It is to the right of the DIMM slots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
I know. I was just making a funny..:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashraf
Ah, I thought you'd go crazy if you didn't see two sockets soon. :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
Keep in mind that this is a pre production board for validation and bios refinement purposes only.
but for your missing power connectors.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ff6bd8ab_o.jpg
4 memory slots?
Thanks pal, knew you'd come to the rescue!:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Blauhung
Three and an "extra"..for added memory only..Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
Bloomsfield is actually just like AMD. Need a Northbridge and Southbridge.Quote:
Originally Posted by virtualrain
Northbridge for a PCIe controller.
All other Nehalem versions wont have a Northbridge tho, since they got ondie PCIe.
Let us hope for cheap lga1336 xeons (got a feeling the highend desktop one will be EE), this thing looks wicked! That is some heavy duty power system, do I count 12 mosfets? I always liked this layout the best, reminds me of my old DFI NF4U.
Btw, there is also a molex power connector under the rear I/O panel.
so what chipset is it gonna be for desktop nehalems?
Just the Ibexpeak southbridge.Quote:
Originally Posted by dexman
So does Bloomfield equate to Extreme Edition and UP/DP servers that costs 1k$ per CPU or will there be performance-line of Bloomfield CPUs comparable to 6000 -series Conroes/Kentsfields?
looks nice .... intel should of made it black :D
in all the recent pictures of Nehalem die I haven't seen any PCIe links...Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintai
And you're making mistake calling the AMD chipsets NB+SB combo! If you want to be precise it's a combo of PCIe "Tunnel" and I/O controller!
NB by definition must have mem ctr. to bi called "bridge", 'cos it function is tu bridge "roads" from memory, and I/O controller with the "road" to the CPU it self (BUS) ;)
Maybe because you have only seen server/extreme? Desktop is Q1 2009 first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
Also HKEPC already shown boards without a northbridge.
Your "noise" about the northbridge is just as useful as talking native quad vs quad. Northbridge is used for the primary chip, and usually in "top". And southbridge for the lowend. If you want to stick to schemantics, both south and northbridge is an invalid terms years ago.
PCie is what takes up the main part and also power consumption.
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4...6356598xy6.jpg
Black may come when it's no longer a reference board.
4 memory slots seems unbalanced, but then so does 3 memory channels since I'm used to seeing things in pairs. Yes I realize there are just new things to get used to.
I don't know why they'd worry much about 4 heatsink mounting holes on the NB, since without the memory controller in it, the heat output is likely to be far less than current NB's. I like the 4 anyway, don't get me wrong, it's nice on an enthusiast board, but people should be aware that the heat characteristics of these boards is going to be different from the past as well.
I would have thought that they'd begin to consider either 7 slot designs, or at least 7 slot spacing with an automatic "empty" slot alongside the first x16 slot. It's becoming the "norm" that gpu's take at least the next slot up from the x16, even on air, and I would have guessed that an "enthusiast" board would acknowledge that. Aren't there a few 7 slot board designs around?
Interesting pics, nonetheless. Movieman is having visions of dual slot goodness I'm sure :)
We need more photos :)
The board is fugly, and I don't like RAM placement AT ALL...
Who cares if it is fugly? This board is probably just for testing, and even when it will hit retail, it won't be an expensive high-end board. The important thing is they can show us socket 1366 and the made progress. When should socket 1366 or Bloomfield be launched?
I hope we can get some LGA775 heatsinks compatible--did I count correctly? Those 12 mounting holes at various places... looks like it may be LGA775 compatible or something. I'll check it out with scales later today.
Recount: 10?
thats because the mainstream versions are based on the same core, but seperate and unique designs that require their own tapeouts. you have not seen any die shots of them yet:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
Yay now it's possible to remove cpu locking mechanism for better insulating when Oc w Ln2 :D
I was wondering how long it would be before one of you guys noticed that.Quote:
Originally Posted by s0lid
Saw that last night, looks like those hex nuts go through to the mounting plate in the back..
So this board actually has 'triple channel' memory? interesting.
Yup, 3 and a spare. I hear it works VERY fast!:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by lowfat
Are there any papers that would help explain 3-channel memory, i'm confusssed :confused:
right now, computers are dual channel. Think of it as a RAID-0 array with 2 disks. all the writes are split and striped between the 2 channels.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingcarcas
3 channel memory, is the equivalent of adding another disk to the array. This nets about a 50% boost in memory bandwidth over dual channel.
Or in laymans terms:Quote:
Originally Posted by Blauhung
Take your 300HP car and bump it up to 450HP...:hrhr:
Or upping 2 Card Crossfire to 3 Card Crossfire:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
I hope they do ship the boards with the Heatsink Holes for that hot PCI-E bridge chip. Hell, I'd love to mount even a socket 478 Heatsink on my Current P35 that runs much hotter than my CPU since I can't cool it enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blauhung
:D Hmm, so we should start seeing memory sold in 3 stick sets now :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Blauhung
That's means more expensive RAMQuote:
Originally Posted by lowfat
and I highly doubt we'll be seeing DDR2 Triple Channel boards either :down:Quote:
Originally Posted by DMH
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Originally Posted by hollo
Sooner than you thought - first page ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
Looks interesting.
And what's that (Eat at) Joe's (,) order smackover special? Lolwut? :D
So we'll need three DDR3 modules for triple, instead of two or four modules into dual channel?
yes, although it will run in dual channel mode if only 2 channels are populated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
What if you populate all four slots on this refrence board?
channel 0 will have 2 dimms filled, and half of the capacity in that channel will not be interleaved making any read or write requests addressed to that portion of the overall memory to have ~1/3 the bandwidth. I'm not sure, but I believe that portion of the memory is at the "end" of the list so is only accessed when the rest of the capacity is full.
this is similar to what happens now with only 3 dimms populated rather then all 4.
I hope you are being sarcastic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donnie27
haha. I like this board. Little skull'n'crossbones, etc.
Nice board!
I would like to see intel axe the 1 remaining PCI slot (legacy free!). Also, please NO onboard audio* and maybe use all solid caps. ;)
*I have never understood why onboard audio is included on an enthusiast level board. Dont hardcore gamers buy sound cards anymore?
You dont want onboard audio but you ask for the pci slot to be removed? Where would you like me to plug in my X-FI?
True, but I would expect that Auzentech and Creative will both have high-end X-Fi PCI-E cards out by the time this board hit retail *shrug*Quote:
Originally Posted by shiznit93
exactly. If he doesn't want a PCI slot they leaves him with really one choice with a soundcard, the Xonar. And I'd prefer my Prelude thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by shiznit93
We have pics, let's get those vmods figured already :lol2:
wow a real board; bring on the tri channel bandwidth scores. these bloomfields will go thru extreme like a packet of salts.
im saving,saving,saving my rubels.
but ddr3 NOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo oooooo!!!??%^&*@@##$$%!!
im a beggar in the street holding out my tincup and begging for ddr3 alms...
I believe this has been answered before. Not only is pci-e overkill for soundcards, I believe Creative has said they tried pci-e and the added overhead did more harm than good. And the only pci-e sound card on the marked gets pwned by the prelude and x-fi (if you dont need DD Live). CMSS-3D headphone is no trivial matter, it makes world of difference in games like CS:S where hearing where one footstep came from can be the difference between life and death.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zorlac
I'd think it would actually hurt sales to be pushing a $450 Asus Maxximus Extreme SLI +++ (Etc) edition board, that had no audio. Plus, hasn't anyone else noticed that pci-e parts aren't common, (there's what, one contender for pci-e wifi? maybe two for tv tuners?), and in some cases, EXPENSIVE (Xonar...)
I thought their only PCI-e card was a X-FI Audio, which isn't an X-Fi at all but an old Audigy...Quote:
Originally Posted by shiznit93
So if this board set up for crossfire or SLI or both?
lol - overkill has nothing to do with it - its about getting rid of a crummy bus/way of connecting peripherals & expansion cards etc - every time i look up expansion cards etc for my PC, i have to be wary of the PCI bus max & the fact that *all* slots *share* that one dam bus :down:Quote:
Originally Posted by shiznit93
link? sounds a lil off..Quote:
Originally Posted by shiznit93
http://www.virtuavia.eu/shop/index.p...id=29855&sl=EN :fact:Quote:
Originally Posted by lowfat
http://guru3d.com/newsitem.php?id=3005Quote:
Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss
things might have changed by now though, but either way I'm not ditching my X-FI. Hopefully someone will make a LGA1336 board with a pci slot.
cheers! :up: - good read - nice'n'short too :DQuote:
Originally Posted by shiznit93
thats so dumb! - now is it the actual 'audio processor' that has trouble or the PCI transport part.. the article suggests its not so much the audio processor.. at least thats how I interpreted as :shrug:
I bet Creative is too lazy &/or dumb to come up with a solution.. I bet if u gave the problem to a company with a bit more know how - *bam* solved :D (i wish :rolleyes: )
I was :DQuote:
Originally Posted by shiznit93
Whoa, hold up. So now, for the luxury of using a (low profile) PCI device, you'd have to add 49 euro, per card, to your $400 motherboard? Is it just me, or does that just seem idiotic.
No, its small packets are very random will do better in Parallel than in Serialized data streams. They need something like Jumbo packets or more data since the Card Does the processing, not the CPU. Software Audio processing cards doesn't have the same problem. Cards like the Asus Xonar and X-Fi Xtreme Audio are merely Audio conduits. They mostly receive smaller amounts of already processed by the CPU data or something that's bypassed. That's the way one sound guy explained it to me and until I see or hear something better, that's what I'm going with.Quote:
Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss
Paying the $400 is idiotic to some for sure:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulatin
Ugly board.
Thanks
idiot :shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by elec999
Its an ES Board, they are developping those Boards to try their new technologies. They dont care about design until the system is running properly with good performance
oh nozzz! he has an opinion! he's an idiot! [/sarcasm]Quote:
Originally Posted by Xtasy
he has an opinion. he thinks the mobo is ugly. everyone is entitled to opinion.
he's not an idiot. :stick: :slap: :slapass:
there's a pink one coming out im sure.
or else im not getting one ! haha
er id like intel raid and yr bog standard 7.1ch onboard audio.
geez i wish i didnt have to eat then i could afford this stuff :D
but so there are server boards; and some expensive extremely rich kid boards; what about Tylersburg LT mobo !
http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-33...g-chipset.html
ich10R?
nice link, everybody read this!Quote:
Originally Posted by adamsleath
look at this dual-socket quad-PCI-e mother-:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:-board :rofl:
now what we really need is a set of 36DD. 4 sockets and 4 16x pcie's. Fun to squeeze too:p:
That's it. Green, pure, classic, hardcore, good old time motherboard.:clap:
I like it very much.
eww ICH9, id expect atleast ich11 with power over sata and usb 3.0
It works just fine with ICH10 as well. ICH 11 won't pop up till Westmere from what I understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monkeywoman
As far as I can imagine ICH10 is the last. And yes, it will ship with ICH10 and not 9 as the homemade picture shows.
The future looks for the new type of southbridge only. (Ibexpeak)
MP and DP platforms will continue to need an interconnect hub and PCIe controller off die, as that adds too much unnecessary complexity to integrate them in these type of systems. So the ICH will be sticking around for those market segments for a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintai
But I'd take it over nVidia's crap LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by Monkeywoman
Amen tho that :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Donnie27
looks like its going to be fun to strap phase onto that !!!!
Real Fun
what are these
Could it be for connecting monitoring equipment?