X38 Maximus Extreme - 600FSB.

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=331591

theres no real trick to doing this.
cool the board well.
push the voltages alittle.
have a good CPU.

voltages for this OC.

1.55 for CPU.
1.8 for PLL.
1.85 for NB.
1.7 for VFSB.
1.225 for SB.

strap 333.

boots everytime, however I am well beyond the cooling limit of my phase change. this B2 puts out a ton of heat.
its always been like this, hot.
unfortunatly, to get 4.2 stable, takes near 1.6 volts.
but what I can maintain stable, is around 1.55 volts or less.
so I am limited by my cooling on this CPU.
just need some dry ice I guess.

my previous best with this CPU was 591 about a year ago on a P5B deluxe.
but that took clockgen, and a ton of time.
this is straight boot from bios.

personally, I am just impressed to see this board do this.
I've been running a E8400 for a few weeks at 9 x 515, game stable for weeks now. but I took it out recently to test a new CPU, the Q9550 C1, but taking a break this afternoon, I thought I'd put my ol'E6300 in here, and see how this board likes it.
seems to be a hell of a match.
just wish I had some dry ice around.

here in juneau, we dont get dry ice till the spring... fishing season.
people use it when shipping fish.
so its gonna be awhile before I can try anything more then this.

as I am writing this, I am running 7 x 575 at 1.47 volts.
pretty cool little processor.
good board. :up:

this OC is more like accomplishing a goal more then anything.

600FSB on X38 is no small feat...GOOD JOB!!!!

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Originally Posted by cadaveca

600FSB on X38 is no small feat...GOOD JOB!!!!

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Definatly! CONGRATS! :toast:

Very nice Kunaak :clap:

How high did the 8400 go?

Alittle More for Tonight.

nice 1.8v PLL :eek: :)

Nice Result.... any results for 45nm?

Nice fsb. These maximus board is wierd, the one i had could only 520 fsb dualcore

Nice Kunaak X38 & 65nm dual core is good combination for FSB, wish i could say the same for the 45nm procs... Having a real hard time here getting some proper FSB with them.

you are right loco

there are some motherboards like DFI P35 boards which had GTL ref tweaks which will help you get that extra FSB from wolfdales but most others just struggle :(

i've benchmarked at 600+ MHz FSB on conroe with gigabyte X38 boards but not yet with wolfdale

great results ,
You have a very good chip ,
I had this CPU (E6300) 8 months before and mine did only about 550FSB
On phase (now i know that my chip wasn't good for OC) .
I also had an E6400 which did 576FSB (on Commando) and it was a good chip
i did with the E6400 4.3GHZ

Very nice for X38 :D:D:D

Congrats!

The right CPU + the right board sample= Mmmmmmmmm :D

45nm is another story ;)

Nice, very nice Kunaak:up:


I did max 570FSB with E8400 in Asus P5E64 WS PRO.

nice one Kunaak. Makes me want to try my E6850 again in my maximus

Wow very nice mobo you got there kunaak.. not all x38 can do that....

i hit 610 on my maximus formula :D with cpu on cascade

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=326683

i have the 615fsb but have to search the file on my hdd...

Nice nice nice...

We could bench at 585FSB on such card, and was with DICE cooling... :(
vPLL 1.8v, it will kill your chip in time, 1.7vPLL is max for dual 45nm, 1.6vPLL for quad as far as I've been told...

isnt the point of pushing the hardware, to go beyond the safe zone?

everytime I push hardware like this, I am pretty much resigned to the fact that I may kill the hardware.
I am ok with that.
if I wasnt, I wouldnt go as far as I do.

take M.Beier here.
cas 6... at 1000 mhz DDR3.
thats no small task.
if he listend to everyone... he probably never would have done that.
but knowing him, he probably took some dry ice or something, said "f--- it, lets do this" cranked up the voltages, and went for it.

thats kinda what you gotta do sometimes.
screw easy, take a challenge.
if you never take a challenge, you never really know what the hardware can do.

yeah, my voltages can be crazy sometimes.
but you know what?
I havent killed hardware in a few years.
and my risks, usually pay off nicely.
theres days when I just give up...
then theres days like yesterday, and today.
today I broke 1100 mhz on DDR3 and kept 1T.
that was a goal I had.

Sorry kunaak, didnt mean to offend you.. :)
And yeap, pushing to, and even through sometimes is what its all about ;)
But I dont think vPLL helps, but I might be wrong.

Are you planning to test the X48 by ASUS in the near future?

haha. offend?

there was nothing like that.
I just tend to like to question things.

I have no plans on a X48 anytime soon.
I am far more interested in the 790i then the X48.
theres just not enough to seperate the X48 from the X38 as far as I've seen so far.

This is the XTREME Forum - for this things this site is exists .
If there were only normal results - than we wouldn't need this forum .
I'm glad to be part of this Xtreme ,
The Best Pople and the Best Xtreme results .
After all , pushing to the Max - is in my Blood .

hehe, cool kunaak!
You know, I still remember your describtion back when you got your hopefully still favorit gadget, the DDR-maximizer... ;)

I dont know about the mobos yet.. :) I actually still use P35, combo DDR2/DDR3 board.. oups

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take M.Beier here.
cas 6... at 1000 mhz DDR3.
thats no small task.
if he listend to everyone... he probably never would have done that.
but knowing him, he probably took some dry ice or something, said "f--- it, lets do this" cranked up the voltages, and went for it.

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That was esactly what he did :up:

nice FSB for a X38!!! Not many can push that high... My gigabyte x38 dq6 tops at about 550.

Congrats on that and get some DRY ICE!!!

seems you got very lucky with the board, when we tested my E6850 on Maximus Extreme with LN2 (this chip can do 620 FSB on Gigabyte P35) it started to struggle around 525 FSB - nowhere near your results.
I am sometimes really surprised how far results can vary - lucky you :p:

lucky?

I run a 525 FSB with this board everyday.
9 x 525 = 4.75 volts - 1.55 volts.
single stage.

been running like this for quite awhile now...
2 months now? 3 maybe...

We tested an E8400 on this board as well and had the same problems starting from ~520 FSB. I compared your voltages and as far as I remember we were running similar values. I don't think we handled the board wrong considering the settings - it simply wouldn't do it I say.
Last day of cebit we put exactly the same chip on a DS4 and we had it booting 580x9 after just a few minutes.
2 Chips on that board showed the same behaviour and both run great on Gigabyte LN2 cooled - so I was very disappionted about that board.
Anyway I am not very happy with Asus boards at all as my experience with P5K3 was a pain as well (but this mainly because of the limitation to 1.7Vcore unmodded). Maybe I should take an "Asus-lesson" with you :D

Its strange the degree of variance in motherboard limits across the same chipset, or more importantly the same brand/chipset. I know quality of components matters alot on mobo, but when you have multiple boards, same revision, same manufacturer etc. I would expect results to have a smaller deviation?

not even close.

theres alot of myths around overclocking.
CPU codes.
Core Colors.
whats safe for what hardware?
is PL8 really so horrible to run daily?
is 2C better, really gonna help you get a better OC?

alot of overclocking has a ton of myth around it.

CPU codes dont matter.
its all luck.
just cause you get one week, doesnt mean its a garuanteed OC.

2C isnt gonna make any real difference.

PL8 isnt anything anyone is gonna notice on a daily basis.
your talking about the difference of 120.2 and 120.24 FPS in a game.
go for stable, not bragging rights.


theres no consistency on hardware.
some hardware OC's well, some doesnt.
do it long enough, you will know exactly what I mean.
you will get to a point where all the "what week is your CPU" will start to sound like voodoo and wishful thinking.

some motherboards are good, some arent.
theres always an anomaly out there.
some miracle board that does 650 FSB's.
or some CPU that hits 4.5 ghz at 1.33 volts on air, stable.
but for 98% of the rest of your time in overclocking, your gonna find, theres no real way to find hardware that does a great OC.
the only real way, is to get it in something, and try it yourself.

some people just want reasons to think thier hardware sucks.
oh, my CPU is a bad week.
my motherboard revision sucks, I wish I got a 1.03G instead.
my thermal paste is holding me back.

all junk.

sometimes, hardware just sucks.
even quality of parts is no indicator of how well something will OC.
take the P5K vanilla.
seriously a hideous board.
specs say its garbage from top to bottom.
so why do so many people use it for these incredible OCs when theres obviously better designed boards out there?

cause it OC's well sometimes.

if your board sucks. try a different one.
thats my only real advice.

forget all the hokus pokus. sometimes, hardware just sucks.

nice job :P

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Originally Posted by Kunaak

not even close.

theres alot of myths around overclocking.
CPU codes.
Core Colors.
whats safe for what hardware?
is PL8 really so horrible to run daily?
is 2C better, really gonna help you get a better OC?

alot of overclocking has a ton of myth around it.

CPU codes dont matter.
its all luck.
just cause you get one week, doesnt mean its a garuanteed OC.

2C isnt gonna make any real difference.

PL8 isnt anything anyone is gonna notice on a daily basis.
your talking about the difference of 120.2 and 120.24 FPS in a game.
go for stable, not bragging rights.


theres no consistency on hardware.
some hardware OC's well, some doesnt.
do it long enough, you will know exactly what I mean.
you will get to a point where all the "what week is your CPU" will start to sound like voodoo and wishful thinking.

some motherboards are good, some arent.
theres always an anomaly out there.
some miracle board that does 650 FSB's.
or some CPU that hits 4.5 ghz at 1.33 volts on air, stable.
but for 98% of the rest of your time in overclocking, your gonna find, theres no real way to find hardware that does a great OC.
the only real way, is to get it in something, and try it yourself.

some people just want reasons to think thier hardware sucks.
oh, my CPU is a bad week.
my motherboard revision sucks, I wish I got a 1.03G instead.
my thermal paste is holding me back.

all junk.

sometimes, hardware just sucks.
even quality of parts is no indicator of how well something will OC.
take the P5K vanilla.
seriously a hideous board.
specs say its garbage from top to bottom.
so why do so many people use it for these incredible OCs when theres obviously better designed boards out there?

cause it OC's well sometimes.

if your board sucks. try a different one.
thats my only real advice.

forget all the hokus pokus. sometimes, hardware just sucks.

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Thank you. QFT

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Originally Posted by Kunaak

forget all the hokus pokus. sometimes, hardware just sucks.

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this is sig material hahaha

rotfl. you're right Kuunak. well done.

Great post Kunaak! :up: :D

Nice results too!

Which BIOS, and what PL\Transaction Booster setting?