[dinos22-Team.AU] Bench session with E8500 > W.R. Superpi 32M, wPrime 32M & 1024M

Team.AU strikes again!!!

First of all big thanks to k|ngp|n for making such an awesome LN2 pot >> namely F1 Extreme Edition. If you guys haven't got one go buy it cause it kicks ass :D

Had a fun benching session today and it seems i nailed some dual core world records here (correct me if i'm wrong pls :D) :D :D

Thanks to Kosta for lending me his board and RAM sticks :up:

Note: both air and LN2 max benchable FSB was 596-600MHz
i've tried everything except LN2 on NB which will probably help a little but it's just very very odd :shrug:

Test Configuration:
Asus P5B DLX DDR2 Motherboard (1226 bios) FULLY VMODDED
**1.8vcore, 2.44vdimm, 1.80vMCH, 1.8vSB, vdroop/drop pencil mod**
Intel Core2 Duo E8500 Q745A703
2GB DDR2 Corsair Dominators
2GB DDR2 Crucial Ballistix
PCI Express Nvidia 8400GS
620W Corsair PSU :up:
Swiftech copper heatsink on NB
kingpin F1 Extreme Edition Solid copper CPU LN2 Pot
Big mamma 35L LN2 Dewar
80GB SATA Hard Drive + 160GB PATA
Windows XP Pro 32bit + PATA Dual boot XP Pro/Vista Ultimate 32-bit


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YOUTUBE VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDPrXMep6u4

i mentioned screen not refreshing in the second part >> changed to PATA drive and it went away





W.R. for dual cores for both 32M & 1024M wPrime
32M time: 13.479s
1024M time: 7m 04.585s

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W.R. for dual cores for 32M SuperPi
32M time: 8m 31.047s


http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/2...pi8m31szy8.jpg

............some of you guys say Windows Vista is slow for SuperPi
hehehe ARE YOU SURE
didn't use maxmem no wazza here
normal Vista services all running ;)

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/1...zvista8bm0.jpg

I ran into some stability problems, changed the drive and benched wPrime but forgot to redo this test at higher speed >> would have had the record on this as well

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I ran into some stability problems, changed the drive and benched wPrime but forgot to redo this test at higher speed >>> sub 8s on the next session i think :D

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3...pi8172sqy8.jpg


LN2 PREPARATION :)

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AIR COOLED TESTING

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:shocked: :shocked: 596MHz 8M SuperPi stable :shocked: :shocked:

NO CHANGE IN FSB on LN2 :( :shakes: :confused:
with the right board this CPU will benchmark at 6GHz :D

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QUICK RAM TESTING 2.44-2.48vdimm (tried 2.5/2.54v at 650MHz 8M to see how it responds to volts bumps >> basically all good :D)

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woah congrats Dinos :D

Asus P5B DX FTW :)

32M at 8min 31s @5700Mhz with only 1.752v vcore ! :cool:

And E8500 still isnt avalible in Europe I belive - atleast not in Denmark...

Aint life a b.tch...

Awesome result dino

EDIT:
Vista..? :S
32M doesnt hurt from it???

P5b DX rules ;)

Amazing 32M for dualcore
great score
:up:

thanks guys

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Originally Posted by eva2000

woah congrats Dinos :D

Asus P5B DX FTW :)

32M at 8min 31s @5700Mhz with only 1.752v vcore ! :cool:

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hey George
this CPU can bench Pi at lower vcore
i just used higher value as insurance if i figured out FSB just in case

just could not pass 600FSB
VERY ODD
maybe i'll try a different bios or something

Well done dino
Putting australia on the map of oc :clap:

TeamAu well done guys

nice benches :up:

tapakah just uploaded a better score on 32M SuperPi
so i guess it's #2 spot for the moment :D

good job :up:

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Originally Posted by M.Beier

And E8500 still isnt avalible in Europe I belive - atleast not in Denmark...

Aint life a b.tch...

Awesome result dino

EDIT:
Vista..? :S
32M doesnt hurt from it???

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http://www.proconsult.dk/katalog/m_k...c2d-e8500.html



Amazing results Dinos :toast:

Nice results Dino :up: , ram couldn't go cl4 for 32M?

Great stuff mate

Wicked results guys :clap:

Keep pushing it :)

thanks guys

Misko >> yeah Balllistix are CAS5 sticks
they are :banana::banana::banana::banana: at CAS4

dominators kick ass at CAS4 up to 640-650 depending on vdimm but i was losing a few MHz FSB with them so changed over to Ballistix

donno why but both Corsair and CEllshock were losing me some FSB :S

That 32M is really good. Other results are not that bad either.

insane 32M :clap:
it's a pity for cas 5.... :shrug:

great runs... :up:

wow thank you SF3D and giampa :worship:
your results are always VERY VERY nice :up:
shame i don't have the FSB i need to give you a hard time :D

Grats, good stuff Dinos, love all the pictures.

:up: thanks mate

Congrats on the WR's. :clap: :clap: :clap: Nice work dinos22. :clap: :clap: :clap:

Dinos, awesome!!! Love the photos mate. :clap: :D

thanks guys

in case anyone interested i used these bios settings

CPU settings are as follows:
- Ratio: 9.5
- C1E: Disabled
- CPUID: Disabled
- Vander: Disabled
- CPU Tm: Disabled
- Ex Disable Bit: Disabled
- Speedstep: Disabled

North Bridge settings:
- Remap Disabled - Disabled
- Timings: AUTO (best results for FSB & very tight subtimings interestingly enough) ;)
- Static: Disabled


BIOS details:

Voltages:
- AI: Manual
- CPU Freq: 500MHz
- DRAM: 1000MHz 1:1
- PCIe: 105
- PCI: 33.3
- Spread Spectrum: Disabled
- RAM Volts: 2.35v (I had voltmods so real volts were 2.44-2.48)
- CPU Volts: 1.7v (Added rest through trimpot)
- FSB: MAX VALUE
- NB: MAX VALUE (1.8v via voltmod)
- SB: MAX VALUE
- ICH: Auto

volts were all tested individually and combined to get the best FSB results


BEST Combo of bios values for Max FSB and performance i needed (i actually wanted max FSB but after testing different things performance was good too for superpi)

awesome !! Congrats on the WR's

Hehehe Vista ain't too shabby after all...5700 at 1.75v is nuts. You'da docked a sub-8 1M for sure if you could use one of the old bioses if it weren't for the 9.5x. :-/

Great runs. :up:

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Originally Posted by Gautam

Hehehe Vista ain't too shabby after all...5700 at 1.75v is nuts. You'da docked a sub-8 1M for sure if you could use one of the old bioses if it weren't for the 9.5x. :-/

Great runs. :up:

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i will do that on a gigabyte setup next :D

should be able to get similar FSB :D but with DDR3 :cool:

i think i'll spend some time tweaking Vista a little for superpi and see if we can match or beat XP

:welcome: :welcome:
Nice results Dino

Amazing 32M for dualcore
great score

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Congrats Dinos :)

Better board means DFI? or Asus Comando?

thanks guys :D

better board means ANY board that will run 600+ FSB (650 preferably)

this CPU i bought from PCCriminal and it primes at 570MHz FSB on his Asus P5E3 WS board so even non 965 board might do but for monster FSB i need a P5B DLX or commando to take it further

i really want to do some 6GHz 32M runs :D

We ALL want you to do some 6GHz 32M runs :D

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Originally Posted by T_M

We ALL want you to do some 6GHz 32M runs :D

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maybe i'll have to do a national plea for Commando boards around australia :ROTF:
dino on TV with a puppy face compaign to cherry pick a nice commando hahahah :D

great work as always Dino and nice pics

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Originally Posted by dinos22

i really want to do some 6GHz 32M runs :D

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YGPM
:)

congrats dinos, 6Ghz would scream. I hope you find your board!

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Originally Posted by PcCI2iminal

YGPM
:)

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Originally Posted by TheKarmakazi

congrats dinos, 6Ghz would scream. I hope you find your board!

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i did ^^^^ :D

Hi dino,
i guess i am stuck with the same problems as you, almost the same max under cascade and under LN2. Will try Vista next time for sure, it seems the fastest Wprime OS ever, we only held the dual-core Wprime record for a day and a half :D

Greets!

P.S.: Forgot to congratulate :D :yepp:

i saw your clocks

yup Vista is super fast for wPrime ;)

Great work, dinos22-san! :toast: :toast: :toast:
Especially 32M time is impressive for me. :worship:
It was not possible to catch up even by 5.9G by my system. :p:
I want to learn the secret of your speed. :D

:eek: thank you

Newbeetle-san i learnt how to boost the speed of this board through registry
(you are right....it is VERY slow without these tweaks.... >> basically all these tweak do is return tight values you get when you boot at 400MHz or below at high FSB without FSB penalty most of the time)

jp-san from France is a real master and he inspired eva2000-san to post a guide for us less knowledgable members

here is the guide :up:

http://www.i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=4268

now watch Newbeetle-san kill my scores clock for clock :ROTF:

Good luck i know you will have some amazing results :yepp: :worship:

nice work dino, Now lets try and find you a 650FSB board for some 6ghz 32m SPI lovin :yepp:

Nice set of runs dinos :up:

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Originally Posted by dinos22

jp-san from France is a real master

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True :) He is.

Root thread... http://www.ixtremtek.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76

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Originally Posted by before

Nice set of runs dinos :up:



True :) He is.

Root thread... http://www.ixtremtek.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76

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Ahhhh you have now the secret is now out, everyone will be trying this ;)

Well done Dinos :up:

great :)

hopefully someone can do some CAS4 runs at 5.9/6GHz runs with these tweaks applied

it will be awesome PP just awesome

i was hoping i'd get another board to test which was capable of higher FSB but got no news

oh well i'll just have to wait until some manufacturer figures out how to run X38/48 or P45 at such high FSB

shamino was dropping hints on his board so we shall see

i really hope some of the others can pull it off like nvidia has. nvidia performance in long superpi tests is still weak and until we get access to RAM register entries it will be difficult to tune it properly. working on getting that info but not having much luck

dinos I have three P5B Dlx boards in the mail to me right now... after i determine which is best maybe I could let you borrow it...

I have to talk to 3oh6 about modding them (vcpu vdroop vmch) first though. If your still on the hunt in a few weeks talk to me!

Amazing results! Nice video too ;), should put some 80's music on next time tho, keeps the momentum going!

Anyway, excuse my newbyness, what's that card in the last PCI slot?

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Originally Posted by Johnny Bravo

Ahhhh you have now the secret is now out, everyone will be trying this ;)

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Not that easy to do... :D (At least I hope so... :cat: because finding registers/offsets functionning is a hard, time consuming job) and some secrets are still secrets. :p:

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Originally Posted by JWH

Amazing results! Nice video too ;), should put some 80's music on next time tho, keeps the momentum going!

Anyway, excuse my newbyness, what's that card in the last PCI slot?

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not many picked up on the music

kinpin had a Slayer avatar and this little acoustic version of one of their greatest songs was supposed to be a good choice heheh but not many ppl got it

actually no one really got it EEK :D

[edit] debug card ;)

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Originally Posted by before

Not that easy to do... :D (At least I hope so... :cat: because finding registers/offsets functionning is a hard, time consuming job) and some secrets are still secrets. :p:

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maaaaaaaaaan Xavier you're an OCer i respect a lot. you must have had some of the most amazing results with these boards i tell ya. i really look forward to some more tests from you if you find time to bench these. you keep pulling these boards out of the dungeon and showing up some newer gen hardware with this humble little chipset :D

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Originally Posted by TheKarmakazi

dinos I have three P5B Dlx boards in the mail to me right now... after i determine which is best maybe I could let you borrow it...

I have to talk to 3oh6 about modding them (vcpu vdroop vmch) first though. If your still on the hunt in a few weeks talk to me!

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coool dude
good luck finding a good board

aparently they don't like these jp tweaks all the same and it seems the board i benched on was a gem for managing some pretty tight settings at such high FSB resulting in pretty decent 32M superpi times

this new motherboard is looking very promising

thanks for sending it over PCCriminal
:D

620MHz 1M air cooled :D

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6...piaircokr7.png

max screen

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Congrats Dino! Nice pictures and clocks these FSB is awesome

Damn, that is just silly for air.

dirty bastard and your 600+ FSB chips on air :D

its just too bad only P5B-Dlx and Commandos will do that with these 45nm chips...otherwise the 32M low clock thread would get some pretty crazy times in some categories.

yeah man
i wish my 790i could do this hahahah

MrRevhead (over at i4memory) asked me for settings i used in bios to reach this FSB

i thought it would be a good idea to just post the settings here in the thread for others as well

First of all a word of warning. different CPUs seems to react differently to boards....actually same applies to boards as i've tested two good ones now

RAM is even more critical. i am only able to do crazy FSB with these Crucial sticks from Kosta..............beats me why :(

Hardware used:
Asus P5B DLX DDR2 Motherboard (1226 bios) NO VMODS YET
(rev1.10 > sticker > under sticker says 1.01 lol but in CPUz it's C2 chipset)
Intel Core2 Duo E8500 Q745A703
2GB DDR2 Crucial Ballistix
PCI Graphics card (Nvidia Geforce 2 MX400)
620W Corsair PSU
Stock NB cooler
TT Big Typhoon
160GB PATA
Windows XP Pro 32bit Lite



Here is a bios template settings i used


AI Tuning: Manual
CPU Frequency: 550 (450 craps out at 528; 500 craps out at 560 from memory)
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1100Mhz
PCI Express Frequency: 100
PCI Clock Synchronization Mode: 33.33Mhz
Spread Spectrum: Disabled
Memory Voltage: 2.45v
CPU Vcore Voltage: 1.45v bios set
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.45v
NB Vcore: 1.65v
SB Vcore (SATA/PCIE): 1.80v
ICH Chipset Voltage: AUTO

Memory Remap Feature: Disabled
Configure DRAM Timing by SPD: Enabled
Static Read Control: Disabled


Ratio CMOS Setting: 6x > (this board is buggy...sometimes multi reverts back to 8.5 or 9.5 hahah :rolleyes:
CIE Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
PECI: Disabled