Intel Nehalem Mainboard and CPU Picture Debut...

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02-22-2008, 04:03 AM
sxs112

Intel Nehalem Mainboard and CPU Picture Debut...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3156/...3abab93a_o.jpg
Nehalem A1(CPU Frequency 1Ghz ,QPI Frequency 1.66Ghz ，Superpi run 3min..)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2260/...8ce4a4f4_o.jpg
Gigabyte 7TESN-RN

Thank Gigabyte to release this picture...XD
02-22-2008, 04:20 AM
Disaster_Master

That cpu looks big.

Why only pci-e 8x slots on the mobo?
02-22-2008, 04:22 AM
LuckyNV

its a server board and nehelam has more pins so its bigger
02-22-2008, 04:36 AM
Morais

The MoBo is using Digital PWM without heatsink? I dont think it will last longer, unless servers mobo are different in this area
02-22-2008, 04:42 AM
jcool

I think this pic is just for show, as all the other coolers are missing too (NB etc) ;)
02-22-2008, 04:47 AM
LyP0

I'm wondering, are those landgrids on top of the cpu real
Looks weird.
02-22-2008, 04:52 AM
sxs112

Quote:

Originally Posted by LyP0

I'm wondering, are those landgrids on top of the cpu real
Looks weird.

The above contact uses for Debug, official version Nehalem cannot have these contacts.
02-22-2008, 04:52 AM
K404

Well...its an early ES with a low clockspeed- the TDP will probably be low so a small cooler can be used and the test points can be probed?

Is that SuperPi time 1M or 32M? :p:
02-22-2008, 04:55 AM
sxs112

Quote:

Originally Posted by K404

Well...its an early ES with a low clockspeed- the TDP will probably be low so a small cooler can be used and the test points can be probed?

Is that SuperPi time 1M or 32M? :p:

1m.....:rofl:
02-22-2008, 04:58 AM
Yakyb

Quote:

Nehalem A1(CPU Frequency 1Ghz ,QPI Frequency 1.66Ghz ，Superpi run 3min..)

hmm

any more info on this?
02-22-2008, 05:02 AM
zakelwe

Quote:

Originally Posted by sxs112

1m.....:rofl:

Did they remember to set to realtime priority? looks kinda low, I was expecting 2 min 50s or so....

:D

Regards
Andy
02-22-2008, 05:05 AM
M.Beier

not any cooling on chipset neither...

Thought has crossed my mind... Maybe they will apply, but just show us some eyecandy? ;)
02-22-2008, 05:10 AM
FischOderAal

think so too. a naked board is damn sexy *drools*
02-22-2008, 05:51 AM
XS Janus

Things are rolling out fast!
02-22-2008, 06:07 AM
squilliam

Quote:

Originally Posted by sxs112

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3156/...3abab93a_o.jpg
Nehalem A1(CPU Frequency 1Ghz ,QPI Frequency 1.66Ghz ，Superpi run 3min..)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2260/...8ce4a4f4_o.jpg
Gigabyte 7TESN-RN

Thank Gigabyte to release this picture...XD

I'm a little Super Pi stupid, how is this in comparison to other CPUs?
02-22-2008, 06:11 AM
n00b 0f l337

Tis a showoff pic, heatsinks would def be added later.
02-22-2008, 06:12 AM
Cronos

If this is really 1M, thats extremely slow for 1GHz clock.
02-22-2008, 06:13 AM
onewingedangel

Is that a fb-dimm or r-ddr3 board?
02-22-2008, 06:14 AM
Hornet331

Quote:

Originally Posted by squilliam

I'm a little Super Pi stupid, how is this in comparison to other CPUs?

p3 @ 1ghz needs ~160 seconds
02-22-2008, 06:15 AM
Shintai

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewingedangel

Is that a fb-dimm or r-ddr3 board?

FB-DIMM
02-22-2008, 06:16 AM
MarlboroMan

sexy pic of Nehalem A1... i love those Debug contacts... im sure you can change many things on the processor using it ;)
02-22-2008, 06:18 AM
sxs112

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewingedangel

Is that a fb-dimm or r-ddr3 board?

Trip-FB-DIMM
02-22-2008, 06:32 AM
TopherTony

this is the new 1207 or whatever socket?
02-22-2008, 06:32 AM
fellix_bg

Those slots on the board doesn't looks like to be FB-DIMMs.
02-22-2008, 06:37 AM
Don_Dan

You do know that :banana::banana::banana::banana: is forbidden here? :p:

Can you give more info on the board and the CPU?
02-22-2008, 07:11 AM
saaya

what chipset is that? looks like p35? :confused:

thanks for posting this here sxs112! :toast:
02-22-2008, 07:29 AM
Blauhung

Quote:

Originally Posted by fellix_bg

Those slots on the board doesn't looks like to be FB-DIMMs.

really unless you know which way to stick it in, or actually counted pins, they both look ~the same. Unless there are 2 types of memory controllers on the same chip, DP server and high end desktop are both gona be the the same memory.
02-22-2008, 07:30 AM
Blauhung

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

what chipset is that? looks like p35? :confused:

thanks for posting this here sxs112! :toast:

Tylersburg and ICH10
02-22-2008, 07:31 AM
Zytek_Fan

Gasp :eek2:
02-22-2008, 07:32 AM
iadstudio

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcool

I think this pic is just for show, as all the other coolers are missing too (NB etc) ;)

Don't shoot me if this is s stupid question, but I thought Nahelm had on-die memory controller and would net be using a NB.
02-22-2008, 07:57 AM
Shintai

Quote:

Originally Posted by iadstudio

Don't shoot me if this is s stupid question, but I thought Nahelm had on-die memory controller and would net be using a NB.

For servers and extreme. The NB is only used for PCIe and CSI. Just like with AMD.

For desktops PCIe is on the CPU.
02-22-2008, 07:59 AM
SKYMTL

Ummm....isn't that the upcoming (Q2 2008) Gigabyte GA7-TESH series workstation motherboard that was shown at CES? :S
02-22-2008, 08:48 AM
LexDiamonds

thats hot. sexy sexy
02-22-2008, 09:21 AM
pH(x)

That looks damned good. :cool:
02-22-2008, 09:23 AM
Donnie27

Oh yeah baby!
02-22-2008, 09:48 AM
Blauhung

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shintai

For servers and extreme. The NB is only used for PCIe and CSI. Just like with AMD.

For desktops PCIe is on the CPU.

yup, tylersburg is basically there to collect all the QPI's and talk to the ICH10
02-22-2008, 10:06 AM
xVeinx

So the server version has a secretary for a "north bridge" then? :p:
02-22-2008, 10:21 AM
duploxxx

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shintai

For desktops PCIe is on the CPU.

still no roadmap seen that clearly states it will be on the cpu.... except for the old specs offcourse
02-22-2008, 10:24 AM
bot@xs

screw on sockets on the board, nice. replaceable in case of bend pin.
replaceable bios, nice but the fan headers a placed screwy.
there has to be cooling added
24-pin power plug on the bottom while both 4 pin plugs are on the top.
why are they so far apart, i foresee mesy wiring
02-22-2008, 10:43 AM
Movieman

Slick looking setup.. Now we need to get some speed into that bugger
As to SP1M,I can do 15.562s on a dual clover at 3157.
I'd guess a dual Harpertown would be in the 12s range at 4000mhz
Wonder what this will do at even 3000mhz?
02-22-2008, 10:47 AM
saaya

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blauhung

Tylersburg and ICH10

tylersburg... huhmmm confusing intel chipset names and number sheme... so this is... the successor of... the 5400 chipset?
02-22-2008, 10:51 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

tylersburg... huhmmm confusing intel chipset names and number sheme... so this is... the successor of... the 5400 chipset?

Correct, but where the Seaburg 5400 chipset is a small advance over the 5100 BlackCreek chipset, this is a "big" jump.
Whole new game,like Netburst to C2D..;)
02-22-2008, 11:00 AM
NH|Delph1

Eagerly awaits Intel's phone call telling us to come over and play with it :D :cool:

//Andreas
02-22-2008, 11:03 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by NH|Delph1

Eagerly awaits Intel's phone call telling us to come over and play with it :D :cool:

//Andreas

Books flight to Sweden so I can go with you!:ROTF:
02-22-2008, 01:39 PM
StealthyFish

I don't think you're supposed to release those :) . How'd you get your hands on one.. or is that picture taken in the lab? ;) . B1's should be out in a few weeks ^^.
02-22-2008, 01:56 PM
Omastar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hornet331

p3 @ 1ghz needs ~160 seconds

So this A1 rev Nehalem is actually slower, clock for clock, than a 1GHz P3 in Super Pi?
02-22-2008, 03:03 PM
socket

what about pins side?
02-22-2008, 03:14 PM
Blauhung

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omastar

So this A1 rev Nehalem is actually slower, clock for clock, than a 1GHz P3 in Super Pi?

Production will probably C-something, I'd be willing to bet that just about every chip (specially a new uArch) starts out very very slow on early stepping.
02-22-2008, 03:48 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blauhung

Production will probably C-something, I'd be willing to bet that just about every chip (specially a new uArch) starts out very very slow on early stepping.

Everything I know about engineering( which isn't much) is first make it work, then make it work better(faster,less heat,etc)
My guess is that they start at a slow speed to see if the theory actually works in practice,then look at all the individual components to see any potential flaws and then they start to make it go faster.
Just a guess but maybe closer to the truth than we know.
02-22-2008, 04:20 PM
flippin_waffles

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

Everything I know about engineering( which isn't much) is first make it work, then make it work better(faster,less heat,etc)
My guess is that they start at a slow speed to see if the theory actually works in practice,then look at all the individual components to see any potential flaws and then they start to make it go faster.
Just a guess but maybe closer to the truth than we know.

Sounds very familiar.
02-22-2008, 08:29 PM
Blauhung

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

Everything I know about engineering( which isn't much) is first make it work, then make it work better(faster,less heat,etc)
My guess is that they start at a slow speed to see if the theory actually works in practice,then look at all the individual components to see any potential flaws and then they start to make it go faster.
Just a guess but maybe closer to the truth than we know.

exactly:up:

most of the time the further steppings always include various speed path fixes to help ramp up the clocks and stomp out performance hampering bugs.

my job is pretty much the same thing. All the PHD guys make the process work (sometimes it only looks like it works), then they give it to my cohorts and I and we make it work safer, with less defects, and faster.
02-23-2008, 12:12 AM
Zytek_Fan

Quote:

Originally Posted by socket

what about pins side?

I don't think anyone is allowed to show pins yet...

The socket arrangement is to die for on a server board :D
02-23-2008, 12:38 AM
Omastar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blauhung

Production will probably C-something, I'd be willing to bet that just about every chip (specially a new uArch) starts out very very slow on early stepping.

Gotcha. Didn't know there was that large a variance between early revs and final revs in terms of clockspeed scaling.

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