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12-26-2007, 08:11 PM
turtle

8800GS news

http://r800.blogspot.com/2007/12/nvi...rief-test.html

original posting by maskedmonkey@itocp google-englished

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadeonX@ R800 blog

Based on NVIDIA G92 architecture, [the] GeForce 8800 GS Graphics Card embraces [6 clusters], 96 stream processors, 48 Texture Filtering Units and 48 Texture Addressing Units,12 ROPs and 192-bit 384MB GDDR3 video memory.

We learn that GeForce 8800 GS was [formerly] known as GeForce 8700, but NVIDIA didn’t want it to overlap with [the] GeForce 8800GTS product line, thereby [allowing] sufficient time for manufacturers to assimilate inventory. But [nVIDIA], faced with [steady] aggression from RV670, changed strategy, GeForce 8700 will [become] GeForce 8800GS, and only [planned] for OEM market.

But [AIB] manufacturers of NVIDIA will introduce GeForce 8800 GS graphics cards to [the] retail market also;

GeForce 8800 GS retail price will be $149-$179.

Posting on itocp mentions:

*Will replace 8600GTS (presumably until D9P), and be good competition to 3850 (in his opinion)
*More balanced solution than 256MB 8800GT (in his opinion)
*Test system:
C2D?@ 2995Mhz
2GB RAM
Vista Ultimate

and shows pictures of:
*GPU-Z identified as G92, 8800GS @575c/1700m/1438sp
*3dMark05: 16661
3dmark06: 9540
3dmark05 4xAA: 7106
3dmark06 4xAA: 5908
*Crysis DX10 1024x768 4 loops time demo:
Min: 3.34 @ frame 270
Max: 31.41 @ frame 1380
Avg: 23.71
12-26-2007, 08:22 PM
ExodusC

Hmmm... I wonder if it's worth it compared to the 8800GT 256MB.
12-26-2007, 08:23 PM
LagunaX

384mb memory vs. 512
96 stream processors vs. 112

So which would overclock (and bottleneck less) better - this or the 256mb 8800gt?
12-26-2007, 08:55 PM
turtle

Quote:

Originally Posted by LagunaX

384mb memory vs. 256MB
96 stream processors vs. 112
192-bit vs 256-bit

So which would overclock (and bottleneck less) better - this or the 256mb 8800gt?

Fixed. :P

Well, imho the 256 definitely puts the hurt on in high rez...Figure this to be essentially what the 8800gt is to the new 8800GTS...only with probably crappier AA performance. I guess we'll have to wait and see if it can cut it at 1600/1680 any better than the 256MB.

Personally, the low bandwidth sounds kinda icky even with the extra frame buffer, but it'll probably be decent without AA...Just like the 3850 (but for different reasons). ;)

Point is though, if it's actually the same price as the 3850 (~$170), it essentially becomes the 3850 to the 8800gt 256mb's 3870...and finally gives something for nvidia to fight the 3850 price range, something they needed badly as D9P is a couple months away and the 8600GTS sucks tremendous balls.
12-26-2007, 09:02 PM
zerazax

Everyday that passes, I wonder what Nvidia was thinking by not naming this series the 8900 besides the fact that they didnt want to cannibalize sales of the 8800GTX/Ultra (though they did it anyways w/ the GT and GTS!)
12-26-2007, 09:55 PM
RAMMAN

this card seems very similar to the gts 320, but with a smaller memory bus.
12-26-2007, 09:57 PM
DShankar

Seems like the 8-series is really prolonged, or is it just me and my wishes for the new GTX/Ultra? ;)
12-26-2007, 10:09 PM
zanzabar

they cant make a 65nm chip with the clusters needed for a gtx thats the problem
12-26-2007, 11:00 PM
Nicksterr

too many cardsssssssss
12-27-2007, 12:33 AM
LordEC911

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAMMAN

this card seems very similar to the gts 320, but with a smaller memory bus.

With the smaller memory bus = less ROPs...
This card is DOMINATED by the 256mb GT.
12-27-2007, 01:14 AM
Blasar

Let´s see what this "baby" can do, but i think it won´t even come close to the HD3850, but...
12-27-2007, 01:46 AM
G.Foyle

stop those g80 refereshes already, Nvidia...
we want D9E!!
12-27-2007, 01:52 AM
expreview

another score leaked

http://www.expreview.com/img/news/071227/88gs01b.jpg

source:Expreview.com
12-27-2007, 02:13 AM
Origin_Unknown

Quote:

Originally Posted by DShankar

Seems like the 8-series is really prolonged, or is it just me and my wishes for the new GTX/Ultra? ;)

+1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicksterr

too many cardsssssssss

+1

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoqolatl

stop those g80 refereshes already, Nvidia...
we want D9E!!

+1

notice a trend Nvidia? :rofl:
12-27-2007, 06:27 AM
Den Leiw

GS cards just aren't worth it
12-27-2007, 06:35 AM
Envydia007

another useless mid range card.
12-27-2007, 06:42 AM
systemviper

:bsod: why , why , why
12-27-2007, 06:48 AM
naokaji

Quote:

Originally Posted by Envydia007

another useless mid range card.

nah.. not useless.. if they price it low enough it will be far better bang for $$$ than the 8600 GTS crap....

but, can we please get new highend cards? nvidia? amd? we want to give you money....
12-27-2007, 07:18 AM
Origin_Unknown

Quote:

Originally Posted by Den Leiw

GS cards just aren't worth it

hows that? my 6800 GS AGP unlocked to 6800 ULTRA in both speed and number of shaders
12-27-2007, 08:31 AM
Bonkers

Is there a person alive who, from the top of their head, could put all these 8800's in performance order including the future ones?

GX2,Ultra,GTX,GTS640,512,320,GT1024,512,256,GS,BS. .

It was much easier when there was just GeForce DDR and GeForce SDR.
12-27-2007, 09:03 AM
Chewbenator

I could if I wanted to, but some of those cards aren't out yet and I am not that familiar with the new GTS ie(G92).
12-27-2007, 10:20 AM
naokaji

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonkers

Is there a person alive who, from the top of their head, could put all these 8800's in performance order including the future ones?

GX2,Ultra,GTX,GTS640,512,320,GT1024,512,256,GS,BS. .

It was much easier when there was just GeForce DDR and GeForce SDR.

i'll try...

from slow to fast..

GS, Old GTS, GT, GTX, New GTS, Ultra, GX2

GT, GTX and New GTS position are interchangable though depending on resolution....
12-27-2007, 02:34 PM
Frank M

Quote:

Originally Posted by turtle

GeForce 8800 GS retail price will be $149-$179.

At last! Real mid-range performance cards! :woot:

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordEC911

With the smaller memory bus = less ROPs...
This card is DOMINATED by the 256mb GT.

I don't think it will be DOMINATED, just slightly outperformed. I don't think
there will be more than 15% difference at <1680 res.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blasar

Let´s see what this "baby" can do, but i think it won´t even come close to the HD3850, but...

What are you talking about? Compare the old GTS with 96 shaders and the
3850. Add that this has the improved core and higher shader frequency.
It will be the other way around.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Den Leiw

GS cards just aren't worth it

Oh yes they are :p:
For those who are not spoiled brats but have to save up/work for their
gear, it has much better price/performance ratio.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Envydia007

another useless mid range card.

another useless post :p:
Compared to current midrange (8600, 2600, 3850), it has great specs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown

hows that? my 6800 GS AGP unlocked to 6800 ULTRA in both speed and number of shaders

Me too. Mine went to 425/1172 on stock volts, full 16. Ah, good times.
My 7900GS only goes till 525/1450 full stably now, but I'm going to replace
that annoying fan with a block sometime, and then its vmod tiem! :D
12-27-2007, 04:12 PM
xlink

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonkers

Is there a person alive who, from the top of their head, could put all these 8800's in performance order including the future ones?

GX2,Ultra,GTX,GTS640,512,320,GT1024,512,256,GS,BS. .

It was much easier when there was just GeForce DDR and GeForce SDR.

the general order is

GX2, ultra, GTX, GTS, GT, GS, XT, and the the rest(LE and CE) we don't bother with
12-27-2007, 09:35 PM
LordEC911

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank M

I don't think it will be DOMINATED, just slightly outperformed. I don't think
there will be more than 15% difference at <1680 res.

Yes, dominated.
The person I was responding to was responding to someone talking about AA performance...
12-27-2007, 09:46 PM
[XC] hipno650

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordEC911

Yes, dominated.
The person I was responding to was responding to someone talking about AA performance...

not if the game use more than 256mb vram and less than 384mb. i don't care what your bandwidth is. when your out of vram your out of vram. and you get to enjoy 3fps gaming in all it's glory while a card with more vram and similar gpu power will be much higher lets say 30fps.

this card will be good if it is priced right. those specs, good ram (samsung hopefully) and a $100-120 price tag and it will dominate the low end to midrange section. it would be a perfect card for a budget machine that runs say 1024X768 or 1280x1024.