Pro Street Lag

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11-17-2007, 05:29 AM
Bootup05

Pro Street Lag

Hi guys,

Got a 8600GTS on my hands, and decided to pick up Pro Street...

I know pretty much all of the NFS series have this weird lag problem, where you're actually getting 30/40 FPS (In my case) but theres still frame loss at corners...

Im running at Full Settings @ 800 x 600 2AA 0AS

Tryed running at minimum settings, and its still there (Although not as bad)

Thinking that the 128bit bus is probaly bringing some of this lag to the table, but I also remember the exact same problems on my 8800GTS 640MB in NFSMW.

All other system specs are well within Recommended System Requirements...

Anyone got any ideas how to sort this out? Or is it just a case of getting a better card to reduce the stalling?

Thanks :) ...

Im using the latest Nvidia drivers, using Vista, and just defragging right now...

Also my card is 256MB, I know someone here could see how much of their VRAM was being used up by the monitor in Rivatuner.... Is there a fix for that or something, my card doesn't have it....
11-17-2007, 05:53 AM
Origin_Unknown

you've picked up pro street? where from?
Even on play.com it's not released untill the 23rd nov.
11-17-2007, 06:05 AM
Bootup05

Got it from my dad's mate in the US :D

Kind of a xmas present :p:

EDIT: I think this could have an effect, all my EA installations are fragmented to hell, I have around 8GB of temporary crap on my system, Need to sort this out, il be back in around an hour to tell you if it worked, and now Im not using Vista's Defragger, Cos I wouldn't be back for a day otherwise :P
11-17-2007, 06:08 AM
Origin_Unknown

boooo :(

i think ill get this for the ps3
11-17-2007, 06:13 AM
Bootup05

Lol I think someone needs somthing to believe in :)

Here we go... If you think the games gonna be like the demo you'd be wrong, Its MUCH better, I feel sorry for people who have cancelled out Pro Street because of the demo, Yes, i know, it was bad.

Pictures..

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And cars avaliable

Quote:

Acura RSX
Acura Integra Type R
Audi S3
Audi TT 3.2 Quattro
Audi S4
BMW M3 E46
BMW M3 E92
BMW Z4 M Coupe
Cadillac CTS-V
Chevrolet Corvette ZO6
Chevrolet Corvette '67
Chevrolet Corvette C6
Chevrolet Colbalt SS
Chevrolet Chevelle SS
Chevrolet Camaro Concept
Chevrolet Camaro SS
Dodge Viper SRT10
Dodge Charger R/T
Dodge Challenger R/T
Ford Escort RS Cosworth
Shelby GT 500
Ford Mustang GT
Ford Focus ST
Ford GT
Ford Mustang GT '03
Honda Civic Si
Honda Civic
Infinity G35 (V35)
Lamborghini Murchielago LP640
Lotus Elise
Mazda RX-7
Mazda RX-8
Mazda Mazdaspeed3
Lancer Evolution
Lancer Evolution IX
Mitsubishi Eclipse
Nissan GT-R Proto
Nissan Silvia (S15)
Nissan Skyline GT-R (R34)
Nissan GT-R (R35)
Nissan 350Z (Z33)
Nissan 240SX (S13)
Pagani Zonda F
Plymouth Hemi Cuda
Pontiac GTO '65
Pontiac GTO
Porsche Cayman S
Porsche 911 Turbo
Porsche 911 GT2
Shelby GT500 '67
Subaru Impreza WRX STI
Toyota Corolla GTS (AE86)
Toyota Supra
Volkswagen R32
Volkswagen Golf GTI

PS: Sorry about the bad pictures, its the card... :( Hopefully picking up a 8800GT next month :)
11-17-2007, 06:15 AM
Origin_Unknown

what spec are you running that on?

can't wait to drive the escort cossie :D
11-17-2007, 08:51 AM
Bootup05

E6400 @ 3.44
2GB RAM
8600GTS @ 765/2360

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7291/nfs2cb3.jpg

Heres a pic at 1024 x 768 (0AA) Runs slightly better than 800 X 600 2AA now I think.

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11-17-2007, 10:05 AM
Bootup05

Been playign a bit more, trying to find out if people have found fixes for the previous NFS games with the lag issues.

Can't find a thing! All I know is that NFSC was one of the more optimised NFS games, also ran better (less corner lag)

Hope that EA come out with a patch....Anyway heres another screenshot...

Really stressing my card now trying to get this game to run better :P

Im at 783/1620/2376

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3546/nfs1rh0.jpg
11-17-2007, 09:59 PM
Soulburner

I have the same problem in Carbon. Frame loss most noticeably when turning a corner at high speed.

X1950 and 8800 series both do this so its a fault of the game engine (EA). I have found that Vsync tends to cause this if you cannot push the 60fps your monitor needs. Try playing with that - otherwise I don't know of any fix.
11-18-2007, 07:41 AM
Bootup05

Thanks for the reply:) I just tried disabling Vsync (In nVidia monitor aswell) but didn't really see much of a difference, My card barely seems to hit 60fps, averages out between 25/40. Tryed at different refresh settings aswell, of 60 & 75, no differenece anywhere.

Think im gonna pick up a 8800GT for xmas, (Not just for this game:p: )

Think it would help to minimise the lag? Should be hitting 60 then, and for this game is Vsync best left on or off?

I remember with NFSMW I got a bit of lag with my 7900GTO, which then started disappearing after I upgraded to a 8800GTS 640 ( This only then happened with AA, because they were higher cards )

I think cos I have this slow card with a crappy bus width it is somewhat contributing to the lag..Hopefull a more decent card will help sort it out :)
11-19-2007, 10:58 PM
cujo

see my post regarding this issue. i've gone into much more detail.

seems the issue is with the car rendering as the stuttering virtually disappears when using bumper or hood cam.

i've had this issue in carbon and mw and now ps. it's got to be the engine as i've used different cpu and gpu combos over that time. the one constant is my love of far chase cam...
11-19-2007, 11:18 PM
Seer

I have this on my PS3, and it's pretty addicting. Have a 240SX 177BHP running 9sec in the 1/4 right now. RX-7 for my grip and Silva for my drift.
11-20-2007, 03:41 AM
Warboy

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v1487360b9FFPh43

;)
11-20-2007, 01:43 PM
cujo

just curious guys but if the title is called pro street lag then why does the thread have a bunch of in game screen shots and now discussion about drag racing?

can anyone backup my findings that the lag is reduced and/or disappears altogether when using the bumper or hood cam?
11-21-2007, 09:23 AM
n-sanity

^^ confirmed.

I ran WoW and a vlc movie in the background while periodically switching to and fro with nfs; my 650hp z4 hops around back and forth like a gazelle in 3rd person view, but in bumper view everything is perfectly smooth, until i encounter my oponents - a lap behind me :D The things get jittery again :mad:

Speaking of drag tho... gt500 shelby @ 7xxhp doing 7.6s 1/4s after tuned gear ratios; i beat oponents by like 2s and almost always dominate days without doing all the races : /

Word of advice; if you get a free car marker, SAVE IT. After the second "showdown" (this is after like 14 race days - very early in the game) u get acess to ALL cars; get the 800k pagani for free and either sell it to buy ANYTHING u could desire or actually spend the rest of the 250k something u should have @ that point to be able to pwn anything.
11-21-2007, 12:26 PM
cujo

Quote:

Originally Posted by n-sanity

^^ confirmed.
I ran WoW and a vlc movie in the background while periodically switching to and fro with nfs; my 650hp z4 hops around back and forth like a gazelle in 3rd person view, but in bumper view everything is perfectly smooth, until i encounter my oponents - a lap behind me :D The things get jittery again :mad:

ya, i've only tested this in practice mode. crap if it still happens when other cars are around. guess i'll have to take the lead early and stay in front.
11-21-2007, 02:55 PM
Bootup05

The lag reduction on bumper / hood cam is correct, has been said on EA's forums. I also notice it myself, find it hard to control the car from that view though.

I have screenshots in this thread so that Unkown.. can see what he'll be getting on the 23rd :)

Also, theres word from mods on the EA forum that EA know of this problem, and are currently creating a patch :)
11-21-2007, 07:34 PM
Circaflex

this game is pure garbage, my 360 controller isnt working properly and all settings maxed out and the game still looks like poo.
11-21-2007, 07:45 PM
Warboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Circaflex

this game is pure garbage, my 360 controller isnt working properly and all settings maxed out and the game still looks like poo.

What graphics card are you running?
11-21-2007, 08:57 PM
cujo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bootup05

Also, theres word from mods on the EA forum that EA know of this problem, and are currently creating a patch :)

i'll believe it when i see it. it's been a problem since mw and they've done nothing about it.

edit - i can't, for the life of me, figure out how to create a new thread on that awful forum.
11-23-2007, 09:01 AM
Circaflex

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warboy

What graphics card are you running?

2900XT
11-23-2007, 09:49 AM
Bootup05

Hi guys, Installed the new Nvidia drivers (169.12 Beta Seems to have dramatically improved performance, I barely get any lag now! :) I have even upped my settings to 1024 x 768 :D
11-27-2007, 10:27 AM
TysonM

#1) Lag when cornering at high speed, WHEN seeing the car. Does not lag if using hood or bumper cam.

#2) When using hood or bumper cam, lag again when seeing the cars up ahead that are lagging a full lap behind you.

Conclusion: Smoke from tires having big FPS hit? When cornering at high speed, there would be this smoke... which you would not see from bumper and hood cam.

Are there settings to change the graphics for anything related to smoke from the tires or something similar?
11-27-2007, 11:06 AM
cujo

it's not smoke at all for me. i can do donuts and it's smooth. i get the stuttering at speeds. as long as i'm in bumper or hood cam i don't noticed it in races with other cars.

as a benefit to all this i now prefer hood cam over chase cam as it's more exhilarating driving.
12-04-2007, 01:52 AM
TysonM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cujo

as a benefit to all this i now prefer hood cam over chase cam as it's more exhilarating driving.

I'm a fan of the bumper cam myself... like having my face stuck on the front bumper of the car. I can almost feel the road!
12-04-2007, 02:45 AM
ptr1aa

maybe it's the same thing like it was with TDU , pirated version have stuttering original version works perfectly.I've read somewhere that only people with the cracked version have this problem and i tend to believe this because there is no driver from Nvidia or ATI to fix this and neighter from EA maybe because there is no problem unless you didn't pay for the game.
12-04-2007, 10:30 AM
oneeyedollar

i get 20-25 fps steady on all maps with highest IQ, 4xaa @ 1680x1050 with my crappy rig (see sig). first racing game i've really gotten into since gran turismo 2.
12-04-2007, 10:32 AM
oneeyedollar

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptr1aa

maybe it's the same thing like it was with TDU , pirated version have stuttering original version works perfectly.I've read somewhere that only people with the cracked version have this problem and i tend to believe this because there is no driver from Nvidia or ATI to fix this and neighter from EA maybe because there is no problem unless you didn't pay for the game.

i'm using a cracked exe for mine, i get audio stuttering at certain points on the early tracks, i'm going to use the disc and maybe it will run smoother not having to read everything from the HD.
12-04-2007, 01:16 PM
Soulburner

Quote:

Originally Posted by oneeyedollar

i'm using a cracked exe for mine, i get audio stuttering at certain points on the early tracks, i'm going to use the disc and maybe it will run smoother not having to read everything from the HD.

The disc is only used for authentication nowadays. It's been a while since a developer actually used the CD/DVD to load data. It sits idle during the game.

Besides if it did, imagine how slow it would be - your HDD can get data to the CPU many times faster than accessing it from an optical drive.

Let me know if it does anything, I have always used no-cd cracks because I hate having to go get the CD for every game I want to play.
12-04-2007, 01:26 PM
cujo

i bought both mw and carbon and until they fix this stuttering i have no intention of purchasing pro street. they never did fix the stuttering in mw.
12-04-2007, 05:35 PM
oneeyedollar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer

Have a 240SX 177BHP running 9sec in the 1/4 right now. RX-7 for my grip and Silva for my drift.

:eek:
12-04-2007, 07:04 PM
nosboost300

how does 177hp run 9 sec on the quarter mile... makes no sense to me.. must weigh like < 1000lbs...
12-04-2007, 07:20 PM
cabbspapp

It's probably on a wood frame with a milk jug for a gas tank.
12-05-2007, 10:41 AM
oneeyedollar

Quote:

Originally Posted by nosboost300

how does 177hp run 9 sec on the quarter mile... makes no sense to me.. must weigh like < 1000lbs...

i have a 69' challenger running the 1/4 mile in 9 flat. it has like ~ 800bhp! doing the 1/2 mile in that balls to the wall will most likely cause you to losecontrol and total the sucker.