Haven't seen these pictured before...wow, that is pretty sexy.
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/593/1/
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Haven't seen these pictured before...wow, that is pretty sexy.
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/593/1/
Ati should include a grilling cage in there because I'm sure that kebobs and steak would come out perfectly@!
power usage is actually low on the 55nm process they are using.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie3dfx
they are doing the best they can. At ~399 it should be a decent product if the drivers are decent.
Very sexy to say the least
Damn, that looks excellent. Should even fit paired MCW60's per card.
anyone knows which mobo is being used ?
From the heatpipes, PCB and slot colours I'll guess its some sort of Gigabyte board. After having played Crysis today I think my 8800GTS can last long enough for those to come out.
Anyone notice the Crossfire interconnect on the cards is different with only a single CF bridge connector on each card?
I am thinking ATI is using Quad Crossfire to detect 4 seperate "cards" with 2 GPUs on each actual card. That is why 4-way CF cannot happen with 4 HD3870X2 cards
May also be electrical limitation of the gpu's i.e. they only have 2 connectors and 1 is already being used for the internal crossfire.Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
I prefer the look of the 4 standard HD3870's over the 3870X2, just looks cooler with 4x gfx cards.
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Originally Posted by gillll
looking at pcb and color of first pic-e i think it is a gigabyte 790x or fx board
Will the 3870X2 in Crossfire mode run on an Intel motherboard with 2x16 PCIe slots? If so, this could prove to be very interesting. The more pressure is brought upon nvidia to allow SLi on any motherboard the better for us. Choice is always a good thing.
I like the dual look a little bit better. Sure the 4 gfx cards just scream "badass", but I've gotten used to my 7950gx2 look. This card looks interesting to say the least. Super long, massive, and overall crazy. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler
Quad X-fire on Intel chipsets should be no problem, as long as its 2 x16 slots, from what the article says....
But, those cards are supposed to be like $700 each, so time will tell....
$700??? Where did that come from? No pricing has been set but a little birdie has mentioned $399-$499.Quote:
Originally Posted by screwtech02
I hope these kind of mobos will be a little % of the incoming, I can't stand wasting that much room losing pci slots for nothing
BASELESS RUMOR ALERT!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by screwtech02
guess we'll see these cards somewhere around the middle of 2009 when they dont matter anymore...
why are they always so damn late with dual GPU cards?
More like Q1`08 mateQuote:
Originally Posted by Kunaak
this looks interesting. it should work on P35 boards with a single pci-e x16, no? i'm assuming its just like the 7950GX2 where it can run in SLI mode in any board.
woah, the 3870 x2 looks awesome!
arg, i want an upgrade but its a PITA with all the new stuff coming out all the time :D
How are they late? They have just launched RV670 and this card uses two of those on one PCB, so wouldn't it make sense for it to arrive a few months afterward? It's not like the 7950GX2 came out at the same time the 7900 series debuted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunaak
Attractive, except if it would turn out to be no more than a singlecard crossfire solution and performance effectively wouldn't surpass 2x RV670 512MB in Crossfire and has 'only' 1 GB total VRAM ( 512MB x 2). To be the exceptional monster i'm waiting (hoping) for it should also carry 2 x 1 GB VRAM... ... but then ooops the price!
CES 2008 sounds good.
6+8pin PCIe power connectors are back with a vengeance!
I'm not sure about mobo with 4 GFX cards, but I'm sure that board running 3870 X2 cards is Gigabyte MA790FX-DQ6! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by gillll
You can read about it here...
I was hoping for two RV670s on the same package.
Do we know what the estimated price will be for that card? It's numero uno on my list of things to buy. I'm hoping for $400ish.
yeah 2x1gb for this beast surely....
but does 2x512 ram give you 1gb ram actually/useable?ie will it still get up to the 512 ram limit at high res/settings?:shrug:
does r680 force afr or what?..as it isnt a cf card? or is it?
might be cheeepa to get 2x3870?
I don't know, 2 3870's have 1gig combine and would cost more to make seeing how its two different boards. So while cheaper to make the question is will it be cheaper than 2 3870's.
yeah but it has the advantage of only requiring one x pci-e slot:shrug:...then agin if its cheaper to make and amd push for r680 cf then maybe it will be good price.
nyway more to choose from:)
but it not rly a mainstream card...so how many will they make?
There was, what looked like an AMD marketing slide, posted in the original 3850/3870 thread that said $800. I doubt it will stay at that price. I'd say between $400-$500.
I stand corrected, info to me was based on a "underinformed" 3rd party, whom will be left unnamed, MATT, oops.....:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
:eek2: Me want!
the first mobo doing a four crossfireX is MSI K9A2 platium.
the second one is Gigabyte GA-MA790-DQ6. a mobo have 4 PCIe slot but too tie for four dual slot cards.
It's possible that the GPUs could snoop eachother's frame buffers if AMD did their engineering right, but I wouldn't count on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by adamsleath
As for the amount of memory in each card, you can probably expect either 1 or 2GB. If you look at the pictures you'll see that AMD has also put memory on the back of the PCB, so if we could get a more high resolution image we might be able to make out the density of the chips.
I as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pisu87
As for those Inquiring minds(bad pun I know) who think RV670x2 is R680, I made a post after pondering their constant statements of R680=RV670x2.
Quote:
Originally Posted by LordEC911
Funny, AMD/ATI's performance in DX10 is nothing short of craptastic compare to their DX9 performance, yet DX10 will be where Quad Crossfire is utilized (DX9 has a frame buffer limitation so Quad SLI or Quad Crossfire will be more or less useless, Tri-SLI probably works though). I can see that the not optimized driver excuse for low performance will probably be used quite a lot until the next AMD/ATI's true next gen card.
3870 X2 + 3870 = tri-cf
possible ?
wonder if these are something to actually look forward to... or should i just stick with the 3870CF
try $200 each for a total of $800 :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by screwtech02
Hmmm, interesting thought. I wonder if it would work.
IF this works out then there should be a wholesale price for all 4 cards instead of having consumers by them 1 by 1
I think these are just meant to make the 'crossfire-solution' possible on 'single pci-e x 16' slot mobo's, and quadfire-solution on dual pci-e x 16 slot mobo's (like the Maximus i have here waiting to become my next gaming PC).
here's some more info, http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...radeon-hd-3870
... confirms my assumption. 2xRV670/512MB 'crossfire' on a single card, so still a 512MB solution and not a 1GB.Quote:
RV670 times two, 512MB GDDR4 memory times two, DVI-HDMI adapter - times two, DisplayPort... erm...
As you can see, this longer board is on the trail of the 8800GTX/Ultra PCB. Unusually, there is no significant increase in the height of the board, meaning this dual-GPU card will fit it a more compact chassis.
The price of 3870 X2 will be between 399 and 499 USD/EUR, 249 and 299 quids (yes, life sucks in Bligthy).
RV670 chips are working at 750+ MHz each. 775 MHz should be reachable by launch time. Who knows, maybe even 800 MHz for the GPU. When it comes to overclocking, we have no idea at the moment, but the memory should be able to work at 2.25 GHz, yielding in combined bandwidth of 144 GB/s. Not too shabby.
So, 2 x seperate RV3870's in my Maximus would be the same as but €99,- cheaper than this one.
more pics coming from fudzilla here & here :
http://www.fudzilla.com/images/stori...0News/r6c3.jpg
http://www.fudzilla.com/images/stori...0News/r6c5.jpg
http://www.fudzilla.com/images/stori...0News/r6c1.jpg
http://www.fudzilla.com/images/stori...News/r680i.jpg
http://www.fudzilla.com/images/stori...News/r6804.jpg
lmafo @ the size of that card. it looks like a tower block and i bet they are noisy as hell
great, if AMD can sell them @ 300 $ with a bundled case and psu they're gonna kill the market
I've read that this (RV670x2) is R680, is it confirmed?
I'm torn... The GT is a nice enough card but isn't quite up to the job @ high res. I refuse to get an nvidia chipset due to fsb limitations.
I have the Blitz so CF seems like my only option atm.
Here is the predicament - get 2 3870's for £275 (usually you'd pay £320 for a pair here) now, or wait for these X2's...
Shame there are no X2 benchies!
enlarge your [strike]penis[/strike] graphic card :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by flexo_fk
That has Voodoo 5 5500 written all over it... except longer
http://www.fudzilla.com/images/stori...News/r6804.jpg
Off-topic: That's a BTX case or what?
Not used to see them :p:
Read the thread to see what it's actually about before you post. :down:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacha
nope that's an ATX but ATI is so confused they can't even turn it the right wayQuote:
Originally Posted by Piotrsama
They look huge but not much larger than an 8800Ultra i think
LOL nice mod dude... a little to much thermal paste though ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by mascaras
Those Xfire results are good, better than the GT Sli... Wonder if it will beat them in proper games though, hope so :D.
:D lol i like it. cant wait for some tests of thisQuote:
Originally Posted by mascaras
Yes, i too. But i expect the exact same result as 2 seperate 3870's in crossfire.
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Originally Posted by Piotrsama
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuvok-LuR-
its a lian li v2000b
That's how the case is designed to beQuote:
Originally Posted by Tuvok-LuR-
oh REALLY????
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2878/quadfirexg7.jpg
OMG I sooo want to do this now :D :eek: :clap:
EBL
lets guess... if 1 3870 is $219 then this will be less than 2 since there is less ram and 1 pcb. think $350?
"Less ram"??? This will have 2 x 512MB, the same as 2 x 3870's...
Oops I missed that. These are going to be very cheap I think still.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unbornchild
AMD: Upcoming GPU will be faster than 8800 GTX-Ultra by 15%
'In the Radeon HD 3800 presentation AMD gave us, there was a very interesting slide in the end called 'And there's more...'. According to that specific slide, AMD hints that their upcoming high-end GPU will be faster than Nvidia’s GeForce 8800 GTX-Ultra by 15%. The same slide also suggests a price tag of $399-499 USD and availability somewhere around January (New Year). According to the rumors around, AMD is going to name that product, as the Radeon HD 3870 X 2; but only time will tell. Anyway, since the NDA of the Radeon HD 3800 series has been expired, I have attached a screenshot from the presentation above.'
http://www.ngohq.com/news/12672-amd-...ltra-15-a.html
wow, using 2 chips they release a card faster then one more then 1 year older ?
that's sick!
Hector likes to aim low...
Quote:
Originally Posted by flexo_fk
i thought there was no pron aloud on the forums:rofl: :rofl:
I was really hoping they'd go for a MCM :/ imho the PCB is way to big.
but this way it's cheaper as they don't need to order any special GPUs. just popp in some RV670 and here ya go, R680.
I dont care if 2x 3870 X2 wont run om my Gigabyte X38-DQ6.... Then ill just buy some AMD hardware and get it ON!....
Starting to cry when i saw this :')....
All these years standing up for ATI seems realy to pay off... cant whait to punch off Crysis @ Xtreme HIGH settings witht his. "BIG CRY :')"
is it safe to say that it will work in motherboards with a single pci-e x16 slot?
the article doesn't mention anything about it but 790 boards.
I haven't followed the 2600 X2 but at first it worked on non CrossFire Mainboards as well. if this wasn't a mistake by amd why shouldn't it work with this one as well?
finally my plan to conquer the world by stealing everyone's electricity is about to happen !
AFAIK, any one card solution will be 100% compatible with any x16 mobo. All the crossfire stuff happens on the Video card itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by aiya
:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Loque
I take back my "Me want" statement. I hate video card solutions such as these.
i was thinking that, since the cores themselves have the crossfire tech built-in to them already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock&Roll
unfortunatly this is how its goingQuote:
Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan
why do they need 2 seperate gpus?
cant they put 2 or 4 gpus on a single chip like the cpus do?
jc
That's what they are working on...Quote:
Originally Posted by tbone8ty
But you then come upon the problem of how you connect them all and then the memory/buffer issues.
Quote:
Originally Posted by LordEC911
true, this got me thinking...
it would super funny if they came out with Crossfire for mobo's, like not pci-e slots but mobos connected to each other ...so i could have a setup with 4 x phenom cpus and lets see... quad crossfire x 4 so 16 video cards, haha
anyways ill stop thinking now...
it seems like they have really hit a road block with video cards....in terms of running crysis on super high settings at 1080p res. there is nothing out now that can run it with respectable frame rates where u wouldnt notice it in game play.
This is already implemented into multisocket serversQuote:
Originally Posted by tbone8ty
http://www.v-t.co.jp/en/products/hpc...v8000_open.jpghttp://www.mikerohard.de/iwill-h8502.jpg
Didn't we see a prototype of a 2900XT running externally at CeBIT or one of the other conventionsQuote:
Originally Posted by tbone8ty
:up:Quote:
AMD shows off Radeon HD 3870 X2
Working pairs: clockspeeds and pricing revealed
By Theo Valich: Sunday, 18 November 2007, 3:20 PM
AMD'S ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2 marks first real dual-GPU supported and manufactured by AMD.
Previous attempts were mostly made by third party manufacturers such as ASUS, Sapphire and MSI, but this time AMD is coming into the frame.
With R700 looking quite interesting, it is clear that AMD wants to get as much experience with multi-chippery on a single PCB as possible.
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/205...ogetherap6.jpg
Two Radeon 3870 X2s working in pair. Note the longer Crossfire connector
As you can see in a picture above, the boards are connected via single bridge. The reason for first single-bridge appearance in ATI cards (HD2600 X2X has two bridges, just like regular parts) is the fact that one bridge is wired through the PCB and links the two GPUs locally, so "black magic" was not used in order to connect two the GPUs. Just logic and available resources.
This arrangement of four memory chips on back, four memory chips on top brings back memories of the Radeon 9700. Of course, the 9700 relied on old, DDR1 style memory working at 310MHz, while the 3870 X2 comes with memory almost three times as fast (GDDR3).
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/702...oling01bm0.jpg
A look at cooler reveals that there are no visible heat-pipes
Beneath the cooler there are two chips. Each has its own 512MB of memory. But even with this board producing a decent amount of heat, this cooler does not use any visible heatpipes. It is just a longer version of the concept we saw with the 2900XT from the outside, but from the inside, there is nothing but copper fins.
This board will consume give or take equal power as a single 2900XT, and ATI opted to use one six-pin and one eight-pin PEG connector. With the 8-pin connector being specc'ed as a PCIe Gen2 requirement, it'so wonder that both AMD and Nvidia will use this connector in the future.
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/4...alyst01ls5.jpg
Catalyst 7.11 shows that Radeon HD 3870 X2 is already supported in the driver
Software support is already there. While drivers have to be significantly optimised for different applications, there are still around three Catalyst releases to go before the product is ready to hit the market.
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/2...alyst02gi7.jpg
Overclock two GPUs on a same PCB
ATI OverDrive is supported, and you can see that two GPUs work at 777MHz each, while 1GB of on-board memory is working at 901MHz, yielding a combined total of 115.32 GB/s.
The temperature tool will probably have to be tweaked to recognise the number of GPU cores on the board itself, but the interesting part will be just how much power savings RV670 can achieve.
It turns out that AMD is dead-serious about taking the RV670 to new heights. The firm is promising a whole lot, and seeing a system with two prototype boards running Call of Duty 4 with all bells'n'whistles in a Quadfire combination only leaves you thinking how great 2008 will be. It all started with three great products, Geforce 8800GT, Radeon HD 3850 and 3870, and as soon as Geforce 8850GX2 (or whatever Nvidia decides to call its dual-G92 series) and Radeon HD 3870 X2 make an appearance, we'll be ushered in a new era of affordable high-end computing.
According to AMD, the time of big and expensive high-end cards is over, everything is now about scalability. Nvidia is starting to sing the same tune.
It seems that both Nvidia and AMD finally learned that it is far better to create a monster of a mainstream chip that can be scaled with as many GPUs as you want. An eight to-16GPU setup is a possibility for both ATI and Nvidia, but don't think about games here. Think about medical imaging, videowalls and so on).
When the board debuts (current target is February) with higher clocked Phenoms (B3 rev), getting two of these cards will set you back anywhere between 800 and 1000 US Dollars or Euro, meaning buyers of four Radeon HD 3850s today will not lose their value when these two pop along. µ
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...eon-hd-3870-x2
will be interesting to see how a 3870x2 does against a future single highend gpu from nvidia.... my 8800 GTS (old version lol) is waiting to make place for something better.....
:up:Quote:
AMD Announces R680, RV620, RV635 Graphics Cores
Get ready to enter 2008 with a bang: AMD has a bunch of GPUs on the way
AMD's newest R680 graphics processor might look a whole lot like the ill-fated R600 GPU, but the reality couldn't be more bizarre. Instead of one 80nm behemoth-of-a-GPU, the R680 consists of two 55nm processor cores.
Representatives from AMD would not confirm that the R680 is essentially two RV670 GPU cores on the same board, though the company did confirm that each core has the same specifications of an RV670 processor.
The RV670 graphics core, announced last November with the Phenom processor, is the first 55nm desktop graphics adaptor. AMD does not target this card as a high-end adaptor, though reviewers were quick to herald the RV670 as AMD's best product of 2007.
The company also made quick mention of the RV620 and RV635 GPU cores. These cores are nearly identical to the previous RV610 and RV630 processors, but will be produced on the 55nm node instead.
All three of AMD's new GPUs are scheduled to launch next month.
Dual-GPU technology is not new. 3dfx's flagship Voodoo 5 family also resorted to multiple processors to achieve its relatively high performance. ASUS, Gigabyte, Sapphire, HIS and PowerColor all introduced dual-GPU configurations of just about every graphics processor on the market, though these were never "sanctioned" ATI or NVIDIA projects. Ultimately, all of these projects were canned due to long development times and low demand.
Cross-state rival NVIDIA isn't sitting on idle hands though, either. The company publicly announced plans to replace all 90nm G80 graphics cores with G92 derivatives by the end of the year. G92's debut introduction, GeForce 8800 GT, met wild support from reviewers and analysts alike. G92's second introduce, GeForce 8800 GTS 512MB, was met with similar but less enthusiastic acceptance during Tuesday's launch.
NVIDIA's newest roadmap claims the DirectX 10.1 family of 65nm processors will also hit store shelves this Spring. The chipsets -- codenamed D9E, D9M and D9P -- are architecturally different from the G80/G92 family.
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/164...403fb09ff2.png
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=10033
Would be nice to see them turn the power connector toward the side edge of the card, kind of a PITA if final revision is like the pictures.
when's the release date?
I've seen January 28th as the launch date, as it was no official announcement it's nothing more than a rumor tho'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown
with the d9e rumored to be out then aswell :DQuote:
Originally Posted by LowRun
The real question is how will the availability be?
AND the performanceQuote:
Originally Posted by v0dka
AND if they run on Intel- as well as on AMD chipset boards
As long as no test-reviews show up these are only phantom cards. If i were ATI i would already publish 2 or 3 'real game' preview-tests. :)
2nd gen UVD on R680?
Seems like it won't appear on the R680.Quote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
http://img.clubic.com/photo/00699084.jpg
Leadership? i would like to see that happen :)
although ATI is still the king OF the latest 3DBenchmarks :)
I like it very bad !
Just good card's :) .
wow just 800$ for 2 x 3870x2 sounds good