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GeForce 8800GTS 512MB specifications confirmed l
G92 core chip * 128 SP
Core clock 650 MHz, the SP clock 1625 MHz
256 bit memory interface <br /> * GDDR3 memory clock 970 MHz (effective clock 1940 MHz)
The new version of a black double-slot fan (non-fans of the original GTS)
Price 299 to 349 dollars * 12 / 3 listing
http://www.google.com/translate?u=ht...&hl=en&ie=UTF8
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When were these supposed to be launched again? Early December? I might as well wait for these ones and just grab one quickly at launch instead of waiting endlessly on a 8800GT if I can grab one for below 300 EUR. Looks like this card will come very close to or beat even a Ultra depending on game and resolution/IQ settings at stock clocks. Retailers gets more love from Nvidia... 8800Ultra & GTX sales have pretty much stalled thanks to G92. :p:
Like the idea about dual slot cooling so it won't be necessary to buy a 3rd party cooler to save a few $$$.
Want 20 ROPs!
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Ok, 24 would be nice. :D
Didn't check the link...
:o
Yup, supposed to be start of December with a refreshed GTX end of Dec.
I bought the GT as in interim solution, which replaced my other interim solution (640 GTS). I'm supposed to be holding out for the completely new GTX - the 9800/ati whatever it may be called (which ever is better).
tbh the gt is already begining to struggle @ 1920x1600 with everything on max, contemplating CF 3870 as nvidia chipsets suck...
http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=204269Quote:
It will have 32 TMU units and most likely 24 ROP's (if that one set ain't disabled for some reason). In that case this card would have 6,2% higher texel & pixel fillrate compared to 8800 Ultra. ALU-performance would be 8,3% higher than in 8800 Ultra
Lets wait and see if this is correct though. But if it is... woot! :up:
Does this equate to the card being 20% faster than the gt?
If so, that means instead of the 16fps on very high in directx10 crysis, I will get 19.2fps ;)
I'm 100% positive the 8800GTS 512mb doesn't have 24 rops. Allow me to break it down, for those who don't know why I'm so sure of this.
NVidia's way of handling memory controllers is very simple. Rops are coupled in groups of 4, and every group has their own 64bit memory controller. Take the 8800GTX for example, 6 groups of 4, 6x64 = 384. GTS 640/320, 5 groups of 4, 5x64 = 320.... The G92 has a 256bit memory controller, meaning 16 rops(4 groups of 4, 4x64 = 256), unless NVidia COMPLETELY redesigned their memory controller setup, which is doubtful, seeing as how the 8800GT still follows the group of 4 math.
There is no way you're going to see 24 rops on this part. I'm sorry guys, but that's just the way it is.
yep , i also think its the same specs as 8800GT "only" with +16 SP & Dual slot coolingQuote:
Originally Posted by DilTech
if its realy 650mhz core (means same vGPU voltage , i was hoping for more voltage & clocks)
if its realy 970mhz memory ( means the same 1.0ns GDDR3 used on 8800GT , i was hoping for more)
but if the price = 299$ i think its a very good deal (+ 50$ than 8800GT for + 16SP and dual slot cooler) :)
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Hmmmm nice improvement, but really was hoping for more ROP's.
Maybe the GTX remake will be better. Got til late Jan to setup so hoping for the best.
Hmm any news about the 8800 GTS 1024mb? will it cost more than 349$?
source must be: http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=298&t=444896
AFAIK there is no GTX remake, they're going straight to the next high-end. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by deathman20
This will probably the card I will get after all :D, since I'm moving to 1920x1200 resolution and the 8800GT can't quite cut it at that resolution. Hopefully it will come in large quantities and with Crysis bundled ^^.
Ahh excellent, i was considering grabbing the 8800GT to hold me over for a short while but i might grab one of these instead to hold me over till the new monster 9xxx card coming Q1 08
they both use 256 bit busQuote:
Originally Posted by Krizby87
damit nvidia, amd has already moved on to dx10.1, get with the program.
140W......oy.
mate DX10 is in early stages and support for games is low, imagine how support for DX10.1 is.Quote:
Originally Posted by grimREEFER
I mean is nice to have the support but real games for now wont benefit much
By the time we see DX10.1 in use, current cards will be too slow to use it anyway. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by grimREEFER
DX10.1 doesn't even officially release until next year, with Vista SP1, and ontop of that even microsoft has downplayed it's importance. By the time it's released though, we'll have NVidia's next generation of cards.
man, if you were an uninformed customer and u went to newegg to buy a new video card...
http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCateg...me=Video-Cards
id say 99% chance ud make a horrible decision interms of price/performance
ati and nvidia..especially nvidia, have really F8cked up there video card lines(interms of organization) and made even for the informed customer to re-read the specs and have to look up performance benchmarks to double check there decisions.
hmm am i gonna buy a 3870 for $219 or a 2900xt for $389?
im super cereal here guys! fix it
It's completely a possibility they decoupled them.Quote:
Originally Posted by DilTech
Going back to 256-bit gives them the freedom to go back to the crossbar quite easily, so I wouldn't make any assumptions about this.
Call me crazy, but I'm going to stand by my statement on this one. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cybercat
I just really doubt they'd go through all of that for a die shrink.
DX 10.1 is useless, as a matter of fact so is DX10.....but hey who are we to say anything right??? we dont advance technology they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by grimREEFER
no samsung 0.8ns chips? pity
I would have expected better specs, I hope there will be leaks soon on this card, it will let me know whether I have to wait for it or rush on a GT as soon as they are back in stock
32 TMUs don't make much sense... Even G92GT has 56 (56 TAUs & 56 TFUs)...Quote:
Originally Posted by Niceone on VR-Zone
It will have 32 TMU units and most likely 24 ROP's (if that one set ain't disabled for some reason). In that case this card would have 6,2% higher texel & pixel fillrate compared to 8800 Ultra. ALU-performance would be 8,3% higher than in 8800 Ultra
:confused:
That's my upcoming GFX!
Hopefully nvidia know by then that shipping 25.000 cards around the globe ain't gonna work.
I do not want to wait another month before its restocked.
kids in the candy store :D
g92 gtx/s and r680 :slobber:
and a penryn quaddie to boot...i smell an after Christmas spree.
so if the ref. card is 650/970
then that would mean some brands will be much much higher overclocked out of the box? like maybe an XFX card?
The best XFX 8800 ULTRA was 675/1667/2300... and it was pre overclocked compared to 612/1500/2000 if Im correct.
Yes, I agree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by DilTech
I think, 8800GTS 512MB has 128 SP, 64 TMUs, 16 ROPs.
wow, glad i was unable to get a 8800gt.
;)
If these hit the stores in december I may just go for a step up with eVGA.
I think some people are still in "G80 mode". I have no doubt it would be 64 texture units, because that's how the G92 chip is laid out.Quote:
Originally Posted by largon
VR-Zone has more pics:
http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=204524
The board is literally identical to GT, including 2 phase power regulation. :shakes:
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I'm not sure what's first word that comes to your mind when you see this card, but in my case is one "Ugly" card.Quote:
Originally Posted by largon
It's because of shape of cooler. Though it might be The Ugly Duckling once you start Crysis :)
It only looks ugly because the sticker is not on it :rofl: .Quote:
Originally Posted by sobol
I think it actually looks almost identical to the 8800GTS cooler without the holes at the ends by the exit for the air.
I don't like the cooler design... it's going to block my NB fan... :(
I don't think it's ugly. Then again, I don't care what the innards of a computer look like.
Be it a pink strawberry-flavored PCB or a black PCB with sleek HSF, I don't care.
NightCrawler™,
Luckily there's always the option of aftermarket coolers.
:)
I think this will pair up perfect with my MCW60 :) . I was hoping to do HD 3870, but it wasn't good enough for me to sell my 8800GTS. So I guess I will be on a 8400GS and with no games until this thing comes out.Quote:
Originally Posted by largon
might have to step up now, damn you Nvidia i can't resist the dual slot cooler :D.
Looks like it also uses the similiar silent fan as on G80 cards which is a welcomed feature. 8800GT at 50~60%+ is getting a bit loud. The stock cooler should provide decent temperatures being a 65nm card. If I'd pick a 8800GT I would also have bought Zalman VF900-CU to get nice performance & noise lvl which costs like 28 EUR here which adds up to the price a bit. With 8800GTS G92 it seems I won't have to swap cooler. I agree about the cooler design looks fugly both due to shape and type of surface, it had looked quite a lot nicer with a shiny pitchblack mirrorlike surface but then again I only care about performance of the components, not looks.
Can't wait to see its performance overclocked. :D
800MHz....2GHz SPs....that's 768 GFLOPS. :eek:
*prays the bios vmod works for 8800GTS as well*
can you say XFX on overdrive :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Cybercat
Nice,first nVidia release 8800GT and everybody goes mad with the uber perfomance and in less than one month 8800GTS rev is on the track and will make those who bought 8800GT bang their heads in the wall.
That's the results of non-competitive products from ATI,the worst are yet to come
I've never looked into EVGA's step up programme but does it only apply to americans or is it also available for european customers? With releases like these it sure becomes useful.
Dont they still make agp cards?Quote:
Originally Posted by DilTech
New standards takes long time to be made, heck, not one game out there is dx10 from ground up, yet!
Uhm...did you even think about what you wrote?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatal Error
Lets see...8800GT 250$, 8800GTS 300$.
Why would I bang my head against the wall?
You do know price segmentation? Perhaps I didnt want to spend another 50$ for alittle more performance. I even think the 50$ more is a higher percentage than the actually performance gained.
In short...you make zero sense. Else we should all bang our heads against the wall if we didnt all own QX9650/8800Ultra or something.
RPGWiZaRD,
Step-up is available for Continental US, Canada and Europe.
I already have an aftermarket cooler on it as the original one was a whining pos.. So it looks like I have to replace it again...Quote:
Originally Posted by largon
Yeh & us poor Aussies get nothin but a 1yr warranty & still pay the extra price premium for the evga brand.:down:Quote:
Originally Posted by largon
the card itself without cooler is just the same as GT, I don't understand why people find it horrible while it just doesn't have a sticker on it.
anyway, if I get one I won't see the cooler cause I'll put a wb on it, and even if I would not, I'd see the back of the card, cooler looking at the floor, so...
except for people who really want to keep the stock cooler (no wc, no alternative sink) and don't have a PC case I don't see why it is a big deal? and concerning people don't using PC case I guess they couldn't care less seeing the mess on their desk or elsewhere, so the GTS cooler...
Sounds nice, glad I got a EVGA 8800GT. Might have to step up to this one.
My guess on performance is similar to the Ultra at lower resolutions, but similar to slighly slower than the GTX at higher resolutions / high AA, etc. It will probably be limited by memory bandwidth.
i bet it overclocks no better the the 8800GT's. you'll get more performance over the GT's though, due to the increase to 128 SP.. just my guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cybercat
Eh, that just depends on a few things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diverge
1.) Is it the same PCB as the GT?
2.) Is it the same voltage as the GT?
3.) Is it a different revision than the GT?(think GTX(A02) vs Ultra OC'ing(A03))
I wouldn't be surprised if you're right, but stock cooling vs stock cooling the new GTS should go farther. ;)
With a higher wattage estimate on the card I'd think there would be more voltage added. So it should clock higher you'd think with that alone. It will be intresting to see but then again I don't know if the core would be changed all that much.Quote:
Originally Posted by DilTech
Think of it this way, why is there such a shortage on the 8800GT? Could it be that the GTS is going to launch in a bigger way because its using the same core with just unlocked shaders?
I would say its the same core as GT, just with 128 working SPs. Then a tiny bit more voltage to make sure of the clocks and a dualslot cooler.
Simple and effective.
hmm you guys lost me now... so this card wont overclock well??
is that what your saying ?
no one said that. the gt clocks pretty well. some of us just think it will be the same core as the gt, with 128 sp unlocked. so it might just clock around the same amount... of course, this is just us speculating.Quote:
Originally Posted by hecktic
Retail release date December 3rd !?:
http://aycu06.webshots.com/image/354...9080669_rs.jpg
Hope it has at least 20 ROPs though..
g92 gts should equal g80 gtx.
i wonder wot the g92 gtx will have in the spec columns.? more rops more shaders higher clocks:shrug:
considering how close the G92 GT gets to the G80 GTX, the G92 GTS should be faster than the G80 GTX, not just slightly either
There will probably not be a G92 GTX.
The High-end 9 series should launch early next year(1st quarter), these chips are merely to fill in the mid-range(performance) spectrum for when the new high-end arrives.
GT - $200-$300 price range
GTS - $300-$400 price range
9 series will cover both the $400 - $500 range and the $500-$600 price range.
Also, don't expect more rops on the GTS, it's likely to stop at 16 rops.
according to that graph the current ULTRA is still king of them all... right?Quote:
Originally Posted by rabor
at least i think so because my XFX Extreme edition ULTRA has 675 core / 1667 shader and 2300 memory... does that mean my card is still faster than anything expected to be out by end of Jan. 2008 ???
what is TAU ??
what is it? ie d9E? G100?? wotever it is i bet it comes prior to r700....maybe in time to trump r680/rv670x2Quote:
9 series will cover both the $400 - $500 range and the $500-$600 price range.
haha i see an endless tradeup cycle.
Remember AMD 64?Quote:
Originally Posted by grimREEFER
64bit computing is JUST NOW starting to get support... and AMD has been touting their 64bit capability for God knows how long.
Same with 10.1.... Just don't need it right now...by the time you need it, your card will be obsolete anyways and replaced. Just like how the early 64bit AMD chips have been replaced by faster/better chips.
10.1 is a gimmic.... Microsoft (the developer) has said so themselves lol.
Just give me the 9800GTX so that I may smile upon Crysis and Far Cry 2 @ Very High Settings and Very High FPS.
ooh 8800gs!
As I stated in another post, look at the 15%
It has 15% more stream processors
It has 15% more tmus and 15% more taus
Memory wise it should be the same, same layout, looks like the back of the card and the physical layout is the same, therefore it's essentially the gt without uncut stream processors.
so I believe this card should be exactly 15% faster than the gt at the exact same specs (hence if you clock it to 650/1655/970)
I can get the core to 766/1998 watercooled
The real question is, do they use the same exact memory modules?
If these are much better, than I could see 2300mhz as a definite overclocking possibility.
I'm just excited to see benchmarks and I do hope I'm wrong and it's 30% faster
omg, I hope I dont need a new ThermalRight for it.. xD
so this is summing up to be around 20% faster? even if has more tmus taus? so it can't get more than that?
yep , i also point to about 15% faster
i think :
8800GTS Default + Quad-core @ 3ghz = ~ 15K ( 3Dmark 2006)
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somehow got a feeling that this will deliver a bit more
Nvidia needs to get over the 8800 series already and move on... Since when does a generation go on for over a year???
8800 series rocks! it plays with :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: real good and kicks ass!!! stupid naming conventions..g92 - 88gt good..morons
is the refreshed gtx coming in jan? anything in jan-feb from nv apart form the d9e or the '8850gx2'?
i'd chomp on this...
I'll be able to get a 1024mb version with the evga step-up program. I have a feeling this card will be king of the hill at least until the end of the year. Even if the ultra out-preforms it, it (the GTS should still be able to hold its own against it (the ultra).
If this was already posted/ you can delete it..
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3.../nvidiaal7.png
thnx fornowagain, the rear looks like it supports GF7 series heatsinks and it has G80 holes too :up:
Its the exact same pcb as the GT, so what fits that...Quote:
Originally Posted by LuckyNV
GTS
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/2...0gts653vg4.jpg
GT
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/3057/backjq4.jpg
Thanks RedBull78, nice specs. Looks like this could be the card to replace my 320MB GTS. All depends on how much better it performs against the GT. :shrug:
The GT uses a standard mcw60 mount. I had to take off the gts mount and go back to the original for the gt.
If the stats are true, looks like the gts should be 20-25% faster than the gt. It uses more voltage which is a good thing, so maybe the ram can overclock faster as well.
I will use the evga step-up for this, as long as evga lets me ;)
If only the extra cluster is enabled giving 128SP and no extra ROP's. Then assuming the same headroom as the GT, then the GTS will have 15% more performance clock for clock. Obviously with the same frame buffer bandwidth limits.
heres an interesting question: can an overclocked g92 8800gts outperform hd3870 crossfire in dx10 games?
cause i saw a review where the crossfired cards were comparable to a single 8800gtx
also, any chance of heatpipes in that stock cooler?
I had to remove the G80 mount today, and DAMN what a pain in the a$$. I didn't remember seeing the original mount and accidently remounted the same G80 mount, then refilled the water cooling system. I was kicking myself in the a$$ when I noticed that I put on the same one and the holes were not lining up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie3dfx
So I got to drain and refill my loop 3 times today :shakes: . I am getting some killer clocks though.
So has nvidia confirmed a launch date yet? Dec 3rd was mentioned earlier in this thread can anyone confirm whether this is true? I'm hoping it comes out soon. I'm hangin out to play all these awesome new games & all I need is a few things to finish off my new PC including a decent video card & I'm back in business.
I'm really hoping the rumored Dec. 3 release date is true.
regardsQuote:
8800 GTS 512 MB to launch by mid December
Very fast
Nvidia won’t launch Geforce 8800 GTS 512 cards based on G92 on the 3rd or 4th of December as many implied. The new date is the middle of the month, between 12th and 14th.
Geforce 8800GT 512MB is still hard to get and we doubt that the situation will get better anytime soon, as the card is great and the demand is massive.
The new sort of high end card has every chance to be faster than 8800 GTX or even Ultra, but it will be crippled at some ultra high resolutions due to its 256 bit memory interface.
It will be there right before Xmas and we can just hope that there will be enough of them for everyone.
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=4300&Itemid=1
get in early or wait until early new year...
Wow a useless (for at least a year) API...Quote:
Originally Posted by grimREEFER
M$, Crytek, and Nvidia (grain of salt there) are more or less calling it a sham..:shakes:
So, i didnt read all 4 sites, but is there comming a 1GB version of GT/S?
Thanks for the info mascaras. Looks like I'll be saving my pennies! This card should be plenty for the resolutions I play at. :)
cmon who wants to buy a 8800gt from me? :D
if i could SLI, i would hehehe.Quote:
Originally Posted by trans am
I'm hoping they release the 1gb first or at the same time as the 512mb card, like what they did with the 8800GT 512/256.
Depends how it clocks. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by trans am
I'd go out on a limb here, but I think it'd come close to it, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by grimREEFER
Just a guess tho :shrug:
If it clocks 700/1800/2000 on air and the price is right.... pm me :PQuote:
Originally Posted by trans am