How much would you all be willing to pay for a 256mb stick that did 300fsb 1:1 FOR REAL?? Why can't someone e-mail a friend in Japan, get a dozen sticks and sell them on Ebay or something?
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How much would you all be willing to pay for a 256mb stick that did 300fsb 1:1 FOR REAL?? Why can't someone e-mail a friend in Japan, get a dozen sticks and sell them on Ebay or something?
depends on the timmings.. if there high, then i wouldnt pay more then 300 for a 512 set.
if there low i might pay more..
just get the ram-I'll do the rest ;)
just if I had the money I would be on that like flys on crap!
If i only knew somone i japan, i could get them. But im only refrained to contacts in Hong Kong and China.
If $200 wins I might start a new buisness ! lol
lol
I am with major , for 200 bucks I will sell some to ya :-D
I wont support it though :-D
Ryan,
I'll take 2 sticks of pretested 300fsb memory... ;)
PM me...hehe
And Ryan,
A lesson to take from this...you could make $$$ from pre-tested top 1% memory!
C
You should!!! If i knew someone who had access...I would.Quote:
Originally posted by Major Slaughter
If $200 wins I might start a new buisness ! lol
Just curious what the timings are when these guys get 'em up on the north side of 300...
I don't care though...at 3,4,4,8 just imagine a 2.6@3.9ghz 1:1
How 'bout www.ebay.com.jp?? Is there such thing?
C
the top 1% does not do 600 right now
sorry charlie
for 256MB A-DATA PC4000 i wouldn't pay more than AUD$112.91 per stick in their current state max between 274-283mhz at 2.85v :D
for guaranteed 300mhz 1:1 hmmm US$100 = AUD$151 so yeah US$100-125 max
in italy A-Data PC4000 are avaiable for 75€ ;)
so i take it that its the a-data pc4000 thats the best right now and does 280fsb 1:1 at under 3v?
are there any reviews? sandra scores?
if itll do 280fsb at 1:1 then ill be dumping my corsair 3500 (providing its gonna have a lot more bandwidth than this corsair does at 230 1:1 and cas2/2/2/5).
I'm waitin' for A-Data pc4000 with Winbond BH-4 chips... I hope they're available at stock soon! :smileysex
Ewok.....its available at overclockers.co.uk as of today !!!
yes i know thats why i want a quick answer, if its the answer i want ill order right now but i need proof of how good it is.
no point me swapping corsair 3500 230fsb at 2/2/2/5 if what im buying isnt a lot faster. If it does 280 1:1 then it should be faster even on slow timings. i get 3200 unbuffered sandra at this speed so if itll do 3500 and up then ill grab some.
chainbolt's tested 12 sticks of 256mb a-data pc4000 and only 2 manage 283mhz at 2.85v on P4C800-E, the rest are between 274-278mhz at 2.85v so close but not 280mhzQuote:
Originally posted by Ewok
so i take it that its the a-data pc4000 thats the best right now and does 280fsb 1:1 at under 3v?
are there any reviews? sandra scores?
if itll do 280fsb at 1:1 then ill be dumping my corsair 3500 (providing its gonna have a lot more bandwidth than this corsair does at 230 1:1 and cas2/2/2/5).
well thats close enuff but whats the sandra bandwidth like? and what timings were they?
quoting chainyQuote:
Originally posted by Ewok
well thats close enuff but whats the sandra bandwidth like? and what timings were they?
Quote:
I have tested now in total 12 modules ADATA DDR 500 on 3 different P4 (865/875) boards. The SPD timing is 3-4-4-8. But the modules are running at 2.5-3-3-5, and at highest frequency at 2.5-3-4-5.
The frequency range faultfree in dual channel is 274~278Mhz. Of course in Windows it's booting higher than that, the max I got with the best couple was 283Mhz.
It seems the IC7 does not like this RAM. The P4C800 and P4P800-E both are working well with it. That is RAM for boards which are not too "sensitive" with RAM.
Bandwidth on the P4C800-C at 275Mhz is 6500 MB/sec, so this RAM is far better than OCZ 3700.
ordered. :D
although i get 6460/6470 buffered anyway but im having to use 3.25v to get there at the moment and im going to be going for 294fsb 1:1 to max the cpu.
I would take anything that can do better than this crap Corsair XMS3500 that I have. Won't do more than 226 even at 3-8-4-4 @2.8v :(
I have two 512 sticks of that same stuff sitting in a drawer now for 2 months for that same reason:(Quote:
Originally posted by DoGMaN
I would take anything that can do better than this crap Corsair XMS3500 that I have. Won't do more than 226 even at 3-8-4-4 @2.8v :(
Awwwwww....
YOu guys are making the poor americans feel bad...when can WE get some? 278 1:1 at cas2.5 3,3,5 is decent. Some of the 3.2gHz guys could REALLY do some damage with these sticks.
C
Why is it that places over in Europe and Asia get these things before we do? I've never seen a stick of A-DATA on any US or Canadian site.
I have communicated wih A-data recently, and they may soon end up having 2 versions of this. I believe the recent PC4000 Winbond BH-4 ES (engineering sample) they showed is not yet available to purchase. I also believe that those chips if and when they come out, may be quite a bit better than the ones pictured above, at least as far as timings are concerned. Probably not that big of a concern if they are going on a P4 board. Just keep this in mind.
Are these sticks on overclockers.co.uk, any good. im looking to ordering 2 myself.
ask me tomorrow or monday.
Is that the same site as this that Marci posted up on the main page?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/modules...rder=0&thold=0
nope, thats the store i got my 9800 pro from 1 week ago
Nope, that was The Overclocking Store Ltd - http://www.theoverclockingstore.co.uk/Quote:
Originally posted by WxChaser
Is that the same site as this that Marci posted up on the main page?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/modules...rder=0&thold=0
The e-store that have Adata sticks in stock is Overclockers UK - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/news.htm
:)
Appreciate you clearing up my confusion Pedro! Thanks.
PC3700 from TwinMOS ain't that bad either (with 4PCA3+ and P4C800). it will do 255fsb 1:1, would do more but if had SETFSB for this Epox board...
I'm seriously tempted to buy some considering I had to send back the TwinMOS PC-3700 since the stuff wasn't even stable at rated speeds. "Only" ~275Mhz on 2.85v you guys say? Using some currency converter, 2x256MB sticks and shipping to the USA is ~$192- that sound right?
Do they, OC-UK ship to USA? How much shipping costs?
Cool!
C
charlie :
I think they do ship to the US.
Did a quick try and selected US as "Shipping Destination". Several other countries are available too.
Shipping price is 8£.90 exlc. VAT (17% I think)
Give it a try.
Is £54 to much for a 256MB stick of this? We can get it at the shop I work for and thats the price......is it too high?
Thanks,
Craig
That price is very low compared to memory sold in usa.Quote:
Originally posted by CCW
Is £54 to much for a 256MB stick of this? We can get it at the shop I work for and thats the price......is it too high?
Thanks,
Craig
256MB A-DATA PC4000 ??? :D i want of those.. what´s max sync on them ??? 300mhz ratio 1:1 :slobber: i wounder what they do vmem 2.9- 3.1v :)
:banana:
PytonOrm
Your mobo won't run 300 1:1 anyway though.
:( Why not ???
http://www.pc-memory-upgrade.co.uk/m...ram-pc4000.asp
€95 a stick! :D
Thats at my engineer price, think the 512MB DDR500 A-Data is £120.Quote:
Originally posted by NyCUndaGrounD
That price is very low compared to memory sold in usa.
That a good price or have you guys seen them cheaper?
Craig
Maybe it does... ln2 cooled.Quote:
Originally posted by PytonOrm
:( Why not ???
Don't think the nb can handle that sync. OPP has been up to around 285MHz 1:1 though, but u have to use setFSB over 258 or so it seems u have to check out his threads for that and anyway do ANYONE think it will be stable at that speed anyway?
this looks like some Xtreme memory :D please post some results if you have them, I am looking for new mem so.... ;)
If the boss orders any in, I will be the first to get my grubby mits on that stuff!Quote:
Originally posted by full loaded
this looks like some Xtreme memory :D please post some results if you have them, I am looking for new mem so.... ;)
Is that a good price for the 256MB stick?
I cant buy atm ,saving for hols.
Craig
preview review of A-DATA PC4000 posted at OCAU forums by chainbolt http://forums.overclockers.com.au/sh...hreadid=192830 :) now hopefully Abit releases a bios fix for >@255mhz 1:1 :)
How will this ram be in an nF7 S r2? 250MHz Cas2,2,2,9 do you think?
I just ordered 2 sticks of these from http://www.overclockers.co.uk/news.htm. Getting some Kingston hyperx Pc4000 on wednesday. see how they would perform
How much was the total cost (US dollars) for the A-Data PC4000?Quote:
Originally posted by NyCUndaGrounD
I just ordered 2 sticks of these from http://www.overclockers.co.uk/news.htm. Getting some Kingston hyperx Pc4000 on wednesday. see how they would perform
im testing the adata i got from ocuk right now. it refused to even post at 255fsb 2.5/3/3/7 and 3.03v (didnt try lower) so i just stuck it on 3/4/4/8 and its now running at 270fsb 1:1 3.03v
this is only the second boot but i cant say im impressed with having to use silly timings like this just to get a boot out of it.
anyway, time for 285.....
Ewok,
Well if it'll do 275+ 1:1 you're already in rarified air so to speak...
Also, I can't remember Ewok, what mobo are you using? You might have to use Setfsb to get high 1:1 OC's
C
right folks, i am now at 292fsb 1:1, P4C800.
I can tell you it failed prime and crashed windows at 292fsb with 3.03v but it is running at the moment 292fsb and 3.14v, but hasnt done prime for long enuff yet for me to say its stable.
the most im going to be able to go stable is 294fsb as this is the limit of my 2.6c so when i get there ill start posting benches, let me just say im not too dissapointed with the bandwidth so far :p: but dont expect anything earth shattering, it IS runing cas3/4/4/8 at the moment.
292, 1:1
hmmmmmm....can it go even a little better? cas3, 3,3,7?
C
still testing but it wont even POST at 3/3/4/8 or 3/4/3/8 at 292fsb.
I am now at 293fsb 3/4/4/8 and its primed and superpi stable for the last 30 mins so if it passes at this ill start tweaking and post some benches. I think i may be able to get 2.5/4/4/7 but those middle 2 are just not gonna budge as it wont even post otherwise.
heres 293 2.5/4/4/7 - fails prime pretty quick even with 3.25v.
http://www.darkcity.nildram.co.uk/mem.jpg
whats more, at cas2.5/4/4/7 I get 597fps in quake3 293fsb 1:1 and its not stable. with the corsair at 2/2/2/5 and 290fsb 5:4 (230) I got 605fps in quake3 perfectly stable. both with 3.25v. Looks like im gonna have 2 sticks of A-Data for sale.
I would like to know how chainbolt supposedly had 12 sticks all running 2.5/3/3/7 at 274fsb, cos mine wont even post at 255fsb with those timings and 3.25v let alone 274 and 2.85v.
Does anyone of you guys know if A-Data has webbsite ??...been looking for one but can´t seem to find any.
I've taken them out and Ill be selling them for £115 for both including P+P if anyone wants em (thats UK prices btw).
Im sure I could go over 7100 in sandra buffered but it wont be stable and I cant be bothered just for a screenshot.
I always though the nubuffered sandra score would be an indication of what real world (i.e. gaming) performance the memory would provide. It appears not, as I get a good 100mbps more with the A-Data and Quake3, the most memory bandwidth dependant game ever, is still 7fps faster with the corsair. So it seems sandra is totally useless for anyone wanting to know what performance they are REALLY going to get when running stuff.
anyone wanna buy some almost new A-Data? :)
Got them for 118 euros equates to $135.55 USA dolars.Quote:
Originally posted by [SLC]Tachyon
How much was the total cost (US dollars) for the A-Data PC4000?
Ewok amazing scores by the way.
Well if u want more I can do more, i wasnt even trying :p:
Ewok
A few questions for you:
You ran 2x256MB modules it seems..BAD move as they are single sided.
I saw buffered benches...can you post an unbuffered?
Thanks.
Dam just checked my paypal and they took $189 USA dollars for the 2x256mb Adata sticks. will have to email them about this.
lol they pwnd j00z
I bet its because they adjusted shipping, it was only like 8.9 pounds or so on their site for international shipping. :eek:Quote:
Originally posted by NyCUndaGrounD
Dam just checked my paypal and they took $189 USA dollars for the 2x256mb Adata sticks. will have to email them about this.
I calculated that it would end up at around $192 or so, I think $189 seems about right. Still not too bad though.
righty ho after corrupting my windows attempting to gain a bit more, heres my best
http://www.darkcity.nildram.co.uk/mem5.jpg
reasonable bandwidth methinks
298fsb 1:1, cas2.5/4/4/5, 3.25vdimm
Whoa thats some nice bandwidth, what spec system please?
Craig
That was a 2.6c, 2x256mb, 298fsb 1:1, P4C800, 3.25vdimm, cas2.5/4/4/5
unbuffered at 297fsb, cas3/4/4/8 gave me 3410
since the speed of these sticks doesnt fit well with the speed my 2.6c can do, i will be keeping my corsair and these 2 adata sticks are now on ebay as a buy it now item.
Those timings make me wanna cry. So laggy! 3-4-4-8?! Imagine the bandwidth at 2-2-2-5 at that speed. Looks like memory is just being adjusted to be overclocked further without many changes in the actual chips. Too bad DDR2 is still almost a year away. For now we'll just have to settle for DCDDR with higher and higher timings it seems. Latency = devil.
Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems that every pc4000 manufactirer that has come out so far has about the same crappy 3448 timings, give or take. This is mostly useless for an amd rig. So-so for Intel if you can get the fsb high enough to compensate for the low timings. I guess we are still waiting then for the next real performance jump in ddr. I wonder what Windond BH-4 will be like if it is ever released?
Judging from the unbuffered, unprefetched bandwidth, it seems that it's worse than 235 aggressive. Unless you run something that the upcoming stream of data can be guessed by the CPU, these insane 7000 something MB/s are useless.
Oh well I'll buy some other ram.
I'd still like to see benchmarks 'ala Zroc that show 294 1:1 cas2.5, 4,4,5 vs. 5:4 (235) cas2, 2,2,5 like some 3dmk01??
C
Email Luanne Wu at Adata (luanne_wu@adata.com.tw) and buy
direct. She quoted me $US62 each for ddr500 256mb last week.
Payment is only via telegraphic transfer. Delivery is via EMS
courier (approx $US30). She would prefer that you buy in
quantities of 6 sticks or greater.
Is it a "6 stick minimum"? I'd like to order four sticks for a total of 1GB for my IC7 for a total of $278. That's like $50 more than the 512MB OCZ PC-3700 EL Gold kit for twice the amount of RAM and higher speeds.Quote:
Originally posted by dexx
Email Luanne Wu at Adata (luanne_wu@adata.com.tw) and buy
direct. She quoted me $US62 each for ddr500 256mb last week.
Payment is only via telegraphic transfer. Delivery is via EMS
courier (approx $US30). She would prefer that you buy in
quantities of 6 sticks or greater.
get more than you need and individually test each one for their max and match the best 4 and sell the rest off, there's some variationQuote:
Originally posted by [SLC]Tachyon
Is it a "6 stick minimum"? I'd like to order four sticks for a total of 1GB for my IC7 for a total of $278. That's like $50 more than the 512MB OCZ PC-3700 EL Gold kit for twice the amount of RAM and higher speeds.
i.e. in the 12 x 256mb adata pc4000 tested by chainbolt at 3-4-4-5 timings at 2.85v on p4c800-e in memtest86
4 did max 277
2 did max 275
2 did max 274
2 did max 272
2 did max 267
Problem is that I don't really have the funding to buy 6 sticks right now. That'd be nice to do, and get the best four out of six sticks, but I don't think I've got $400 to put down on it right now.Quote:
Originally posted by eva2000
get more than you need and individually test each one for their max and match the best 4 and sell the rest off, there's some variation
i.e. in the 12 x 256mb adata pc4000 tested by chainbolt at 3-4-4-5 timings at 2.85v on p4c800-e in memtest86
4 did max 277
2 did max 275
2 did max 274
2 did max 272
2 did max 267
so what are your bandwith ??? :)Quote:
Originally posted by Ewok
right folks, i am now at 292fsb 1:1, P4C800.
I can tell you it failed prime and crashed windows at 292fsb with 3.03v but it is running at the moment 292fsb and 3.14v, but hasnt done prime for long enuff yet for me to say its stable.
the most im going to be able to go stable is 294fsb as this is the limit of my 2.6c so when i get there ill start posting benches, let me just say im not too dissapointed with the bandwidth so far :p: but dont expect anything earth shattering, it IS runing cas3/4/4/8 at the moment.
ewok, which bios did you use there?
I'm at 300 2.5-4-4-5 with the same ram on same mobo but my scores are around 600MB/s slower than yours (ive tried bios 1002 and 1010 so far).
Anyone tried this Adata PC4000 in a NF7 mobo yet?
what for, it seems it doesn't like decent timmings so it will not be worth for us amds users...
think i will putt them on for sale in netherlands for a few weeks until my m8 is running his e-shop
Where can I get one of those sticks in europe?
Got 2 sticks of ddr450 2x256 from Taiwan last week from my bro. Cl 2.5 w/ 4.5B chips. Dont know if they are good or not yet. Still in plastic packaging. Got some tel # at the back if you guys wanna call. (02) 8228-0886 / (02) 8228-0887. These sticks cost about ~USD 57:slobber: :toast:
I'll get mine from http://www.pc-memory-upgrade.co.uk/m...am-pc4000.asp.
94 € and 4€ for shipping. Cheaper than Corsair or HyperX in Germany.
Ordered 2 Sticks.
Now i need an motherboard and a cpu:D
83 € @ http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Adata.htmlQuote:
Originally posted by KingInge2000
I'll get mine from http://www.pc-memory-upgrade.co.uk/m...am-pc4000.asp.
94 € and 4€ for shipping. Cheaper than Corsair or HyperX in Germany.
i used the 1010.01 biosQuote:
Originally posted by macci
ewok, which bios did you use there?
I'm at 300 2.5-4-4-5 with the same ram on same mobo but my scores are around 600MB/s slower than yours (ive tried bios 1002 and 1010 so far).
Including VAT an shipping it is around the same price. But shippinginsurence is only 27 .-. Not enough for international shipping.Quote:
ewok, well thats the one I used too :)
Any idea why your results are so much higher?
my bios was set to 280FSB, 400MHz, Turbo, 2.5-4-4-5-4 MAM=enable, AUTO, AUTO
CPU multiplier was at 8x
I think thats your problem right there :)Quote:
Originally posted by macci
CPU multiplier was at 8x
Macci, got a few Q's-Quote:
Originally posted by macci
ewok, well thats the one I used too :)
Any idea why your results are so much higher?
my bios was set to 280FSB, 400MHz, Turbo, 2.5-4-4-5-4 MAM=enable, AUTO, AUTO
CPU multiplier was at 8x
1) do you have any links to VDIMM & VCORE mods for the Albatron PX865PE Pro?
2) what multipliers are available on the P4 2/3.x C engineering sample (ES) CPUs?
mam? i dont think i have mam on my P4C. i was at more than 280 for my top scores, it was about 297.Quote:
Originally posted by macci
ewok, well thats the one I used too :)
Any idea why your results are so much higher?
my bios was set to 280FSB, 400MHz, Turbo, 2.5-4-4-5-4 MAM=enable, AUTO, AUTO
CPU multiplier was at 8x
Hmm I dont think that 8x multi would drop the score by 600MB/s? maybe more like 100MB/s at max
[SLC]Tachyon, dont have links for em but I've done the Vmem mod. cant remember the details but it was some 8pin chip near the DIMM slots/SouthBridge, pin 8 to gnd via 50k VR. I might take a pic of the mod later this evening.
And I can use 8,12,13,14 and 15 with 3G ES chip. 3.2G ES would offer 16x also.
ewok, mam is the memory acceleration mode or sumthing like that in the bios, my boot up FSB was 280 from the bios but I ran it up to 300 1:1 using setfsb.. still max sandra was like 6600MB/s
I think its very possible to have 600 mb/s difference between 8x and 16x!! Thats a pretty huge CPU difference, this is Sandra we're talking about... especially multi's sub 10x never give too good scores...Quote:
Originally posted by macci
Hmm I dont think that 8x multi would drop the score by 600MB/s? maybe more like 100MB/s at max
PS, do you mean "Performance Accelleration Mode" ? I have that on my P4C800 , no MAM but PAM :D
ewok use a 2600C, so have multi to 13Quote:
Originally posted by JCviggen
I think its very possible to have 600 mb/s difference between 8x and 16x!! Thats a pretty huge CPU difference, this is Sandra we're talking about... especially multi's sub 10x never give too good scores...
PS, do you mean "Performance Accelleration Mode" ? I have that on my P4C800 , no MAM but PAM :D
Hmm i have got 2 A-DATA sticks right here, and im currently @ 264Fsb 1:1 when i use Setfsb but Sandra dosen't seem to recognice(update) the higher fsb set with setfsb?! What do you guys do?
ex. when i boot at 255 1:1 and use setfsb to raise fsb till 264 sandra still says the mem is at 255 1:1 ??!?!?
Thank you Macci, I would *highly* appreciate a pic of the mod. :)Quote:
Originally posted by macci
Hmm I dont think that 8x multi would drop the score by 600MB/s? maybe more like 100MB/s at max
[SLC]Tachyon, dont have links for em but I've done the Vmem mod. cant remember the details but it was some 8pin chip near the DIMM slots/SouthBridge, pin 8 to gnd via 50k VR. I might take a pic of the mod later this evening.
And I can use 8,12,13,14 and 15 with 3G ES chip. 3.2G ES would offer 16x also.
ewok, mam is the memory acceleration mode or sumthing like that in the bios, my boot up FSB was 280 from the bios but I ran it up to 300 1:1 using setfsb.. still max sandra was like 6600MB/s
Also, does the VCORE have to be bumped up on this board using vidpinning instead of a VCORE mod?
Quote:
Originally posted by Dirty_Punk
ewok use a 2600C, so have multi to 13
sorry, wrong number I knew what chip he was using ;)
Still, I believe the difference between 8x and 13 to be the cause of at least the biggest part of the 600 mb/s difference...
:) jep and then i will sell em, they are fkking cheap :)Quote:
Originally posted by petervandamned
think i will putt them on for sale in netherlands for a few weeks until my m8 is running his e-shop
there is about 1500mhz of difference, ~2380 VS 3870, probably enought to get at least 400mb/sQuote:
Originally posted by JCviggen
sorry, wrong number I knew what chip he was using ;)
Still, I believe the difference between 8x and 13 to be the cause of at least the biggest part of the 600 mb/s difference...
looks like you guys were rite about the multiplier's effect on memband.
using 12x I'm getting around 7000 at 300 1:1 2.5-4-4-5
some 3dmark03 GT1 numbers with different mem settings:
280 1:1 2.5-4-4-5 => 217.5fps
280 5:4 2-2-2-5 => 218.6fps
290 1:1 2.5-4-4-5 => 220.9
290 5:4 2-2-2-5 => 221.7