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Which one is more better? I hear that the TJ07 is badly built, the parts don't fit together well, but the TJ07 in my opinion looks nicer. I plan to do watercooling, so the v2000 will be better because it flips the motherboard....
So which one will be able to handle more upgrades in the future? Which on is sturdier? Which on is more case modable?
Which one is more sexi? :D
TJ-07 is better for water cooling because you can fit the rad in the lower chamber.
You can fit rads in the lower chamber of the v2000 as well. I am also considering these two cases. Right now its looking like v2000 because it has a lot more spaces in the lower area.
The tj07 looks limited to a a 120x3 and a 120x2. Where, I could be mistaken, but it looks like you can fit 4 120x3 in the lower area of the v2000.
--pak
That depends on what rads you buy. Ive been looking at exactly this, and from what ive found, you will not get 2 Black Ice or Thermochill rads (height wise) in the bottom of the V2000, as the compartment is exactly 240mm's high. The only rads that would fit in that configuration are the Blastflow ones, which im not too keen on. Obviously the case would fit pretty much any single rad config though, but then so would the TJ07
The TJ07 gets around this because the PSU is mounted sideways, so you can fit one rad in front of the other. Infact ive seen a TJ07 setup with a quad GTX & dual GTX in the bottom, with no real problems.
I guess u could mod the backplate of the V2000 so the PSU was mounted sideways if you really wanted the Lian Li.
damn, thanks for the info. I was almost set on the v2000 because I thought I could fit two 120x3's in there. Now I don't know what to get again though. I was hoping to fit two full size rads in the bottoms.
--pak
Its difficult, ive been looking for the exact same thing. Some of the mountain mods cases can do it, the TJ07 will do 1xtripple or quad + 1xdual, and i recon u could get the same on the V2000 although it may require some additional modding. But yeah, there arent too many cases for that kinda thing unless u mount a rad externally - which personally, im not the greatest fan of!
Tj Tj Tj :D
V2000, couldnt you fit one on the wall of the lower chamber then one on the floor?
--pak
Not sure how the clearances would work. I have an Enermax Galaxy too, which would rule out a tripple on the floor due to the extra length of the PSU. May work with a smaller PSU. TBH, while i prefer the looks of the V2000 in some ways, I think the TJ07 is edging it for me atm.
well the v2000 is 2 inches deeper than the tj07. So probably more space on the floor?
v2000=24.6" x 8.3" x 24.3"
tj07 =22.2'' x 8.7'' x 22''
....and im edging towards the lian li...lol
--pak
You'd fit two PA120.3's in the base of a V2000 if you side mount. There'd be about 40mm of clearance between the rads (PA's are 59mm thick).
I looked at that, but the fact I have a galaxy i think is a problem, as it will hit one of the two rads if u mount them like that. I dont really fancy switching to a smaller PSU either... lol.
I guess the other thing about the lian li is that there are no vents in the side panels, meaning you would have to mount your own. Neither does it have a window (although that may not bother you).
no you won't......too long would hit the psu....Quote:
You'd fit two PA120.3's in the base of a V2000 if you side mount. There'd be about 40mm of clearance between the rads (PA's are 59mm thick).
I fitted 2 triple rads in the bottom but there smaller 3xrads the size of the v2000 is deceiving...looks huge in the bottom section but it really isn't that big.....
240mm to from bottom to case to middle divider,In my case i had 390mm (small psu) to work with length wise..and my rads just fit...
Thermochill's are longer than 390mm so if you have a larger psu the only way your gonna fit 120.3 if moving the psu to the top (switching the backing plate) and putting the 120.3 laying across the bottom...I've seen a few done like that....
120.2 would have to many problems fitting in the bottom..and you also fit a 120.2 in the case's roof....
Vadim had there rad's custom made from what i've read to fit exactly in the v2000 case's... 390mm x 120mm x 45mm l x h x w
To give you an idea i have two triple rads same dimension's as above... See how close it is to the psu stand thing...
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/2140/nupc258lg4.jpg
Wow, thanks for all the info!! So, I plan on having two rads, one for cpu and one for gpu...as of now, I'm swaying towards the v2000. It's cheaper, seems bigger, and the motherboard flipping can be a real help incase there are any leaks....they wont drip to any other component :D
tj07 sure looks pretty though :(
this is the only v2000 i've seen with 2 120.3 he had to mod the case a bit to fit them in... this is kevintrisha's rig by the way
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1192431447
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...34877&page=215
That gets it done, but I was hoping to keep my 5.25 bays. If I were to do something like that, it can be done with a lot cheaper case. Guess like my only options now are heavy modification or MM.Quote:
Originally Posted by disruptfam
--pak
if i could get mm's in Aus or even lian li cube's i would of went for one of those case's but no available here so i went for a v2000...Overall i love my v2000...But i did have sacrifice performance to get the look i wanted...
Disruptfam, could u do a quick favour? With the PSU mounted in the high position, do u have the measurements of how much space would be between it and the floor of the case? Would be quite useful!
with a pcp&c 750 i have in the top slot gives me 6.9" to the floor of case or 4.720" to the psu support on the floor of case.btw you can fit a 120.2 in the top of the v2000 by positioning it in the front of the case you lose 2 drive bays (to aid airflow) but it clears the mobo and fits between the drive bay sides.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeMK
Thats great jimmyz... thanks for that... off to check some measurements now ;) LOL!
You will fit them if you mount side by side, one rad mounted against each side panel. Flip the PSU to the top position and you'll fit any length in there, it'll be tight between the top of the rads and the bottom of the PSU but it will work.
Looks like the V2000 is back on the shortlist! LOL! so hard to decide :rolleyes:
assuming you take the out the psu stand thing ??Quote:
You will fit them if you mount side by side, one rad mounted against each side panel. Flip the PSU to the top position and you'll fit any length in there, it'll be tight between the top of the rads and the bottom of the PSU but it will work.
Yes, i think thats wot he means. Dont see that as being a huge problem, if you have the PSU mounted in the upper mount though. And im sure i can find away of effectively supporting the far end of the PSU so it doesnt put too much weight on the back of the case. :)
Yeah, not really a major obstacle, all of 2 mins work with a drill to get the rivets off.Quote:
Originally Posted by disruptfam
I guess the one last issue with the Lian Li is the lack of side vents in the bottom part, which the TJ07 comes with as standard. I dont really have the tools to mod such a nice case, and do it to a decent standard i dont think.
http://forums.hexus.net/showthread.php?t=120796Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeMK
According to this Lian Li are about to release similar side panels, or such an impression I get from the answer.
I cut my v2000 panel's yesterday...i started with a dremel was taking way too long and it was hard to keep it clean....Did my 1st panel with a dremel...Thing is i made a few mistakes scratched the paint... :(
I did the second panels with a jigsaw and a metal cutting blade...Went through it like butter...Very clean...I should of used the jigsaw in the 1st place...
So 1 panel is fine the other is scratched up....(brushed alu) so i don't if i can just paint over the scratches...
Overall i wouldn't say it was hard..and you can pick up a cheap jigsaw for pretty cheap....