XS Legend Hipro takes Yorkfield Quad to 4.6Ghz+ On Air :eek:
http://www.hipro-tech.com/images/hip...e_9.953s_1.png
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=162552
Yes, that's on AIR. Indeed, Poor AMD X(
PerkamQuote:
Originally Posted by Hipro
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XS Legend Hipro takes Yorkfield Quad to 4.6Ghz+ On Air :eek:
http://www.hipro-tech.com/images/hip...e_9.953s_1.png
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=162552
Yes, that's on AIR. Indeed, Poor AMD X(
PerkamQuote:
Originally Posted by Hipro
4.7 you want to say..:P
or 4.00GHz on stock cooling..:D
Fixed :eek: X(
Perkam
i rekon it could do 5ghz on water easy with those air results.... wow....
Yourkfield, is that the QX9650 that will release in November?
PRJ
Wow it should be in my wish list for Xmas now. Impressive!!
I'm going to jump in and say don't expect this from every single chip. Just because one does this doesn't mean all can (I'm sure you know, just reminding).
Metro has confirmed 4ghz at least on stock cooling, and with Intel, retail performance isn't far behind from es chips.
Perkam
i dare to say it's even better.Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
first conroes did 4 ghz @ air.Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
retail b2 was ~3,4-3,6 @ air.
so im suer we'll see 4ghz @ air for wolfdale/yorkfield. :yepp:
Very nice.
omfg, sub 10sec. on air is really astonishing :slobber:
incredible. poor amd =/ I think i might just go for one of the quads now instead of a dual core.
Impressive...
Wow nice Hipro
I hope this is an indication of how retail chips will behave
How will it perform on P35 though...
Wow, thats incredible. Great work! We will obviosuly see a little drop off with the regular chips but a QX9650 at 4.0+ on air is a beast.
I need to get my hands on some ES chips..:(
i forsee dual cores even push it further by few hundreds...
*drooooooool*
I want to take one of thos and slap it in my watercooling loop.... would be so epic....
I'm pissed,I have a q6600,an e6600 and now I need to buy a 45nm beast,just because haha.Why do they need to clock so well???I mean 3.4 ghz with what I have now is plenty,but just knowing theres a new chip out that will do 4ghz drives me nuts.....I need oneeee haha
AMD is in for a huge battle indeed
there will be retails chips which are even better! but a lot of them will perform worse..
However; are we seeing diminishing returns from LN2 ("just" 6ghz) or is it just me?
Sounds like me heh. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Skratch
But I just knew Penryn would clock this great (ok well hipro's results exceeded my expectations a bit though :D) and knew if I would buy Q6600 I just couldn't stand not having the nice clock Yorkie can offer. So that's why I got myself a cheap E6750 until I can pick up a York at decent price. :D
I just wonder what will be the max fsb with the Yorkfield, hope it's an improvment over the Kentsfield, so I could go over 5ghz with the Q9450 no prob with my SS.
And well done Hipro.
WOW! You have my undivided attention. Please tell us which model Yokfield this is:)
EDIT: Nevermind. It's all right there in the cpuz screenshot.
Yea same altho I'm aircooling user but I hope max FSB will improve somewhat with Penryn since otherwise Q9450 and Q9300 will become motherboard limited for most people.Quote:
Originally Posted by DFI pit bull
Heat isn't the limiting factor compared to B3 quads. 6GHz is probably pushing the limits of the architecture itself though, damn impressive. Maybe we'll see 6.5GHz or so but 6GHz was done with obscene vcore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacky
excuse my nescience (:p:), but what's this SSSE3 instruction set about which is listed in the cpu-z screenshot?
Unbelievable, guess this will just be thrown onto my upgrade listQuote:
Originally Posted by perkam
1T on X38 is real 1T?
Thank“s Hipro..Im very happy with your topic :D
Hipro's 9650 seems to be better than average ;) Just a little though
OCFX yes, D9GTR AND D9GTS DDR3 does 1T at those insane speeds and timings.
Retail chips will be similar.
Fr3ak, C stepping is just that good.
930mhz on 1T is insane.
By the way, using Deltas for air cooling is like cheating ;)
Glad I have an E2140--I'll wait out newer revisions of Yorkie for about the next 8 months--if I can hold it. If not, I'll be looking at getting a nice Yorkie (Q9450) in 1Q2008.
SSSE3 is the Supplemental SSE3 implanted by Intel in their Conroes to add a few SSE4 extensions into their chips before anyone else... wich gave them a sure advantage over AMD in encoding, even more than just architectural evolution :)Quote:
Originally Posted by RaZz!
Hi FuggerQuote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
Are those names of new IC's?
If, what memory are they used in?
If they can run 1T @ 900+ those DDR3 are really getting there... :up:
PRJ
Charles, please allow me to answer that one ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by PRJ
PRJ,
Lately a list of D9GTR has been applied to the memory section on XS... GTS are not actually avalible yet, just spoke with Charles at messenger, I havnt had the honor of playing with GTS yet, however, I expect my 4x1GB GTR to arrive by tomorrow, and will get some GTS as soon as possible - A friend of mine and I will bench soon, and results will be posted at this site, and perhaps a couple of danish sites, but not by me as far as the danish sites goes..
I'll keep you informed if you'd like me (comparing GTR / GTS)
PS: GTR is expected to do 900-1100 mhz 7-6-6-xx - GTS I dont know yet..
EDIT: Your from Næstved... Well, if you stop by Slagelse, you can follow our session... ;)
OMG what wonderful toys are coming in the near future... :slobber:
The low vcore on these overclocks (even compared to G0) is just stunning. :eek:
WOW! Glad I moved from Amd when I did. Stuck with them for eight straight years, but I saw the hand writing on the wall with Q6600.
Intel = Juggernaut...
Ply
Hi M.BeierQuote:
Originally Posted by M.Beier
Thanks for your reply
Hey.... your not that far away and Slagelse apparently got better hardware supply, than Nęstved does. :p:
I“ll be looking forward to reading you reviews with those chips and I“d appriciate if you would inform me. Thanks for the invite, I“ll keep that in mind.
:toast:
PRJ
Excellent work hipro5. :up: :up:
I was about to order the parts for a Q6600 powered rig this weekend.
Reading this thread convinced me to wait just a little bit longer!
I can't wait until I get my hands on a yorkfield.
Damn, now I'll have to get a Yorkfield :D :D :D
Awesome work man. And FUGGER is right, C step is teh secksi. :)
hm.... i just started to love my qx6850....... buuuuuut:
i will gonna hate it soon ;)
I'm starting to hate my Sempron more and more...
wow +4Ghz on air is hard enough but almost 5Ghz is just insane
Now I'm going to have change my pants :D
This is great. Like others have said tho.... I'll believe it when i see it in retail.
Also..... When it comes to making claims with air cooling. It would be nice if we saw indications that this was in a room that is 'normal' room temperature and that the fans being used weren't as loud as a commercial jet. All the same though..... very impressive results and things are looking full speed ahead for intel.
As for the "poor AMD" comments. Don't count them out just yet. High clock speed does not always equate to better performance. I am still holding onto hopes that AMD can give intel another run for it's money.
Yeah, I'm not going to say doom and gloom for AMD yet...Quote:
Originally Posted by GripS
For start at ONLY 5605MHz......;) :D
I will NOT post higher than 5605MHz 3DMarks coz we have to do something in our Overclocking Event tomorrow.......;)
http://www.hipro-tech.com/images/hip...MHz_7.797s.png
Aquamark3 @ 5605MHz with CrossFire @ 880/990....VGA ON AIR....
http://www.hipro-tech.com/images/hip...CF_880_990.gif
:shocked: I NEED ONE! :shocked:
Guy who did 4500MHz C0 step few days back had temps of around 52C idle (1.5V), so should be good for high end air cooling. :D
Is that 5605 speed on Phase or water?
common sense tells me that's probably phase. But I would really like it to be water.Quote:
Originally Posted by metachronos
Looks like 2008 is shaping out to be a good year for technology.
It's on LN2.... ;)
On single stage phase it can do ~ 5100MHz - 5200MHz....;)
Quote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
That's insane. Imagine having a 5Ghz yorkfield in a gaming rig. :slobber:
finnaly the cpu is going somewhere with the mhz so tired of 3ghz.
:)
Holy SH** :eek2: - wish i hadn`t bought Q6600 now!
By the way excactly when do these go retail?
that is what i have been wanting to hear.. :up: . when are you going to post the 3-d benches? could you run futermark vantage sometime, I want to see how much the new instructions are used since there are de-coding tests.Quote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
Good results and looking forwards to some further results over the next few days.
Have fun. :)
Regards
Andy
first sub 8sec spi i have seen .... great work
you guys will probly break 7 sec with these cpu's ...
No, however, there's a certain dualcore version.... :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by heydo6
Awesome OC! I would get one but I don't feel like replacing my P5W DH just yet.
Oh well......
Holy Gyro hipro5!!! I think I'll have some gyro tonight on your honor...LOL ha ha ha, BTW I was in Portual when Greece won the European Cup!!!
If quad core overclocks this great I wonder what dual cores will?
I have been mainly interested in Yorkfield but I must say a Wolfdale would still get kinda interesting at that pricetag and especially if let's say the 9x model E8400 priced at $183 I think :) would allow a clock to around 4.5GHz stable on air for example lol.
If they released an E8600 or E8700 with multi 10 and 11 then things would become very very interesthing in the 1M chalenge :DQuote:
Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD
I just love that way this new series perform!!!
* sent from hipro's place ^^ *
Wow, nice job. Gotta admit the new Intel cpus are looking great. Haven't seen one yet that hasn't gotten at least 4G on air. I can also run my old Baker 18 cooler on these and probably get over 5G. With the new gpus comming out it looks to be a great time to upgrade.
sikoseto to gamemeno,den boro den boro na perimeno...I was in greece when they won that game lol,best summer of my lifeQuote:
Originally Posted by nicepun
i can't wait to get my hands on one
If it runs 4600 on air and penryn has an app 10% advantage clock for clock over the Kentsfield then it's like having a Kentsfield at 5000mhz on air..
Dear Lord in Heaven!:D
Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
Yeah! I can see insane things coming :shocked:
replace "dock" with gimme the damn chip.
:kitten:
I want to see what 2 of these QX9775's will do in a SkullTrail board at 4500mhz..Can you say goodbye to all the wPrime and cinebench records?:DQuote:
Originally Posted by OCFX
The initial view I had of Penryn was more like AMD Socket AM2 vs Socket S939, ie not a big deal, but now with the stepping C it's become more like Socket S939 vs Socket754 scenario. lol
Intel has done a great job improving Penryn, I don't think 3.4~3.6GHz range is anything Intel wouldn't be able to launch anymore if need be that would pass the test procedure in Intel labs. I wish I can say same thing about K10. Perhaps, we'll need to see that but seems AMD has also made nice improvements with the latest stepping. Always fascinating following how big difference there can be between different samples.
Should be noted that George's sample seems to be abit above avg, we've also seen a 4.5GHz 1.5v or was it 1.52v SuperPi 1M run but still that's a nice result as well so you can't deny even if these would be some lucky samples that Intel has done a great job with the 45nm die shrink.
a nice tiny mightily cpu! can't wait to get one! :D
man, my E6600 seems so poor now, I just hope prices come down to reasonable 300-350$ for this baby soon :D
Get a Q6600 G0 for under $300.00..Most of them are clocking beyond 3200 and they are beasts at that speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by marauder16
I think the price of these penryns is going to be high for a long time to come.
I wonder what'll happen when you reach 0.1 second for these time-critical benches... they'll probably just continue till the ns mark. :p:
Define the air cooling solution, in a case, and obviously the m-board used, because of the high FSB and you'll get a more accurate answer. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MR_SmartAss
It also depends on what their default volts are, but most C0 (Q9450/Q9550) I saw were around 1.20V and idling 30C (air). 4GHz would need 500FSB, which is not possible on too many boards with quads in a typical case.
For instance; Foxconn Mars is perfect with a huge Delta open top with Thermalrights best HSF for clocking, but tested recently on typical a/c did not reach 500FSB stable with X6800/E6850 (CPUs not limited). 487MHz was best stable. Quads would be less because you'd need to raise the NB and PLL volts and various ICs will run hotter and instable quicker.
See this for an example of air temps on Q9550 C0 step: http://www.hardspell.com/english/doc...p?news_id=1561
5ghz on vapo LS ?
The standard average will be Penryn = 4.0Ghz Conroe = 3.0Ghz.
Metroid.
The QX9650 will be the only Penryn available retail at the end of the year, around November.Quote:
Originally Posted by \/ENDE][A
Other Yorkfield's and Wolfdale's will be available in the new year...
Quote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
That's what I'd be hoping for. Need to fix the LS, but that's minor, lol
OMFG hipro you make me sick...I just had a good E6850 hardly doing 5.4 GHZ on LN2 and now you come and tell us Yorkfield does 5.6 easy...I'm gonna rob a bank ^^
Quote:
Originally Posted by QWIDGYBO
Sorry mate, but you got me confused, your say QX9650 is a Penryn, but your sig says its a Yorkfield.
I was going for a QX9650, because I cant wait any longer than november, but if the action we se here in this thread, only is achieved by Yorkfield and not by Penryn, then I“ll have to wait a bit more.
Thanks
Penryn = 4 cores = YorkfieldQuote:
Originally Posted by PRJ
Penryn = 2 cores = Wolfdale
Penryn is an architecture/codename derived from Core 2.
I hope this helps you to understand.
Metroid.
And AMD is having trouble with the 65nm yield, barely managing 3.0GHz :(.
I do feel for AMD. Hopefully the R680 is a winner :)
"well we cant bash intel, they're owning us... lets go after Nvidia..."
This is proper nice! =)
Now a DDR3 price drop around Yorkfield launch date would be super ;)
you, apparently, have never seen my e6600 that has a hard time benching at 3100 with 1.5v using watercooling. i'd say it's about stableish at 1.5v and 2900 mhz. awesome, innit? using a chilly1 i got it benchable to 3600, but that isn't really stable eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by MR_SmartAss
anyway, anyone wanna get rid of his qx9650 let me know ...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Metroid
I think more like a 3.6GHz Conroe clock corresponds to 4GHz Yorkfield, sth like that in terms of how easily it reaches that clock. I predict more like about 500MHz higher clocks from Penryn (same cpu multi comparision and with 9x multi or higher discluding mobo limitation) in avg if we disclude people that didn't try maxing it out.
hipro5's looks to be a bit above avg but perhaps C1 or C2 stepping or sth like that will also produce results like these more than in a few cases as well. Q9450 will be more interesting for most people than QX9650 as it's too expensive for most people and with a 8x multi I wouldn't be suprised if ppl max out around 8x 470~490 most often due to motherboard becoming the limiting factor.
is BIOS update enough to make most mobos support a Penryn? (especially a ICFX3200 :P )
There is def something wrong with your setup,take a look at the e6600 overclocking database.Quote:
Originally Posted by sky
I am typing right now on a e6600@3.5ghz on air cooling with a closed case and only 2 fans in the case,one on my hds and one behind the cpu,blowing air out.
The b2 e6600's clocked to 3.5-7 easily.
I run my e6600 now at 3.5 for it to be 100% stable,take a peak on how well it clocked,this is with air cooling and that temp is right,this sucker was running very hot,but stable.Right now my chip is idling at 60c and its stable,people don't realise that these chips can run up to 85-90c before they start to throttle down.
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3494/3700ye1.jpg
LN² and extreme cooling board FSB is always higher than air/water cooled, can be as much as 100MHz. Big thing I've noticed is those with better CPUs will get higher FSBs on the same board even if both processors could manage say 520FSB each, if one can get 560MHz whilst the other gets 520MHz tops, on one particular board, the latter may not reach 510MHz while the former goes past it.
That said, if anyone tells me running above ≥60C after full 8 hour load in your typical case with typical noise is stable, then I'm afraid that doesn't count for me as air cooling possible criteria. Doesn't matter what the top MHz possible is that's a different thing altogether. Anything reaching below that, I'd count as stable if all else is OK and most G0 C2Ds I've seen at 3.5-3.6GHz air, but not earlier step.
A lot of the review site CPUs are limited, hence results differ on MBs. VR-Zone and TweakTown have the two best CPUs FSB wise, and consistently, they have the highest oc results. Limited does not necessarily mean "it can''t reach it", but "how much head room it has". On some boards its easier to drain the last MHz out of the CPU than on others where the board seems to drain the CPU MHz instead. :D
To compare, Here's a few website reviews of the latest chipsets and their FSB overclock-ability. Make note DC is usually at least 10MHz higher than QC, and sometimes 100MHz higher:
X38
ASUS Maximus Formula 484MHz DC, 460MHz QC
ASUS P5E3 Deluxe 510MHz DC 505MHz QC 520MHz 475MHz DC 558MHz DC
Gigabyte GA-X38-DQ6 500MHz DC 485MHz DC 505MHz QC 480MHz DC, 475MHz QC 517MHz DC
P35
Abit IP35 Pro 490MHz DC 457MHz DC 490MHz DC 557MHz DC
ASUS Blitz Formula 500MHz DC 572MHz DC
ASUS P5K3 Deluxe 490MHz DC 452MHz DC 465MHz DC
Asus P5K (Standard/Deluxe/Deluxe WiFi) 490MHz DC 455MHz DC Rev 1.02G 0414 BIOS 485MHz DC 540MHz DC >430MHz QC 510MHz DC
ASUS P5K-E 560MHz DC
Biostar TP35D2-A7 410MHz DC 480MHz DC
Biostar TP35D3-A7 Deluxe 410MHz DC 390MHz DC 458MHz QC Rev 0.51 0MHz DC Rev 5.0 351MHz DC
DFI LanParty UT P35-T2R 490MHz DC 450MHz QC
ECS P35T-A 350MHz DC 422MHz DC
Foxconn Mars 450MHz DC 520MHz DC 495MHz DC, 490MHz QC
Foxconn P35A 386MHz DC 348MHz DC 438MHz DC
Gigabyte P35C-DS3R 456MHz DC 540MHz DC, 455MHz QC
Gigabyte P35-DQ6 490MHz DC 459MHz DC
Gigabyte P35-DS3R >505MHz DC
Gigabyte P35-DS4 568MHz DC
Gigabyte P35T-DQ6 457MHz DC 550MHz DC, 470MHz QC 581MHz DC
MSI P35 Diamond 459MHz
MSI P35 Neo 369MHz DC
MSI P35 Neo Combo 334MHz DC
MSI P35 Platinum 490MHz DC Rev 1.0 390MHz Rev 1.1 463MHz 465MHz QC 490MHz DC 495MHz DC
Hi MetroidQuote:
Originally Posted by Metroid
Thanks for clearing that up for me :up:
One quistion about QX9650 does it have unlocked multiplier?
Thanks
PRJ
Obvious,is an Xtreme Chip and the only reason why you pay 1000$ is because of it's unlocked multi