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Hello Everyone,
Just brought the new Enzotech SCW-1 and while search for info and got this Aqua Computer new Dual pass CUPLEX XT Di cpu block saids design for duo/quad core. From the charts, it kills everything in the world by at least 4(Kelvin) , what do you think, true??
Any comparison chart here yet? ( VS Fusion , GTX ..etc)
Link: http://www.aqua-computer-systeme.de/...num=1190042113
Charts:
Wikpedia is your friend :)
Given how the TDX and the EK Wave are shown to beat blocks that are known and proven to perform better I can only come to two conclusions.
1. The testing methodology was flawed and the results are worthless.
2. This is bull:banana::banana::banana::banana: or lies and can't be trusted.
Where did you find the enzo-tech block?
wow looks good any more info or any reviews ?
There are too many problems with that chart for me to even know where to begin.
One word : bull:banana::banana::banana::banana: !
Got the SCW-1 from local shop in Hong Kong.
I still cant find a comparison chart in forum yet, ( Cuplex Xt Di vs GTX, Fusion...etc). Any clue..
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Originally Posted by mildseven7
just test both...and tell us how they perform...;)
Yes, if anyone has the Cuplex XT Di, please post some comparison.
Seriously. TDX as 2nd best?Quote:
Originally Posted by Linus@ncix
All of their results for various go across everything that's been reported by other reputable reviewers and testers. Can we say stacked tests or flawed methodology? Sounds like Koolance all over again.
PS, I bought this block as I collect various waterblocks but haven't installed it yet due to lack of time or more likely lack of will power to do another revision one one of my machines. I'm hoping it performs at least as well as an apogee GT considering I paid over $130 including barbs/tax/ship for it. However, bull:banana::banana::banana::banana: claims and testing need to stop. At least the Koolance fanboys shut up about Koolance's propoganda but the AC fanboys across various forums are treating this test/results as the gospel truth.
Will be incorporating it soon into my loop in new PC but will sadly not be able to offer comparison temps as it will be a different setup. Will post temps though as they may be used for a rough comparison.Quote:
Originally Posted by mildseven7
Nice design, looks like some part of captain picards spaceship :)
:rofl: :ROTF: :welcome:Quote:
Originally Posted by Linus@ncix
:rofl: :rofl: :ROTF: :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Linus@ncix
i like the teal acrylic, would shine well with LEDs. otherwise, meh.
It seems like they tested the block on a naked IHS single core CPU.
notice how the storm and tdx beats the fuzion?
or the chart's bull:banana::banana::banana::banana: like everyone is saying :lol:
Quick someone tell Gabe how poor they say his beloved GTX is. lol
We might get some comparative test results then.
My gut is telling me that the tests on that chart were all done on different testbeds, hence the results that don't make one bit of sense.
I love how it is listed in kelvin... yet the temperatures are 34 degrees Kelvin.
I'd :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing kill to have my processor running at 34 kelvin.
hahaha no chance it will deliver those results. And you just gotta love their graph.
Hi,Quote:
Originally Posted by mildseven7
Pls. checkout this charts. http://www.aquatuning.de/shop_content.php/coID/1071
After going thur this i ended up buying a Fusion:up:
It cools more than the Fusion but one needs a very powerful pump to keep things going. widerstand (resistance)reduces the flow of water in the loop.
:rofl: :ROTF:
Is this a joke?!?!?
1: The order of blocks is wrecked, And goes against almost every test I've seen.
2: There is no way that block would out perform the best blocks by 5C, Let alone 5K... which brings us to out last point...
#3: KELVIN?!?!?!?
Are they really so blatant to believe people will believe this? And also, Who would be so stupid to believe this?
30Kelvin = -243Celsius
SHENANIGANS!!!
1 degree increase in Kelvin is the same as 1 degree increase in Celcius.Quote:
Originally Posted by kevinbo03
Kelvin is just a different scale where 0 kelvin is absolute zero. But a delta of 5C is the same as 5K
Otherwise, I completely agree, Shenanigans
Do some research first please, or go back to school and pay attention in physics class.Quote:
Originally Posted by kevinbo03
Kelvin can be used to state a temperature starting at absolute zero or to state a temperature difference, which is how it's used here.
The Apogee GTX value shown in the chart is with the standard O-ring. I have the magazine here and a value for the thicker O-ring is also shown, which is 31.8K, pretty close to the 30.0K of the Cuplex.
The testing was performed by Radical[53] who also provided the test results in the Thermochill testing thread.
One thing that should be noted is that the water temperature was held at a constant 25°C for all coolers.
Why does it matter whether it says 34C or 34k :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by mcoffey
It's a German magazine, called "Hardwareluxx [Printed]" and the test is not available in English or on any website unfortunately.
I know for sure that the testing was done by Radical, since he also frequents the hardwareluxx forum and there was some discussion concerning the test results a month ago when the magazine hit the newsstands.
it looks to me very restrictive...Quote:
Originally Posted by mildseven7
It is restrictive, but maybe that is why it cools well.
The flow rate of the Cuplex was 3.76 l/min, the D-Tek Fuzion had 5.82 and the Apogee GTX 4.87. He used a Laing DDC+ with a modded Watercool top, a Thermochill 120.2 and a flow meter and a small filter.
thats quite a big difference between the 3.76 and 4.87. now imagine a real life scenario when you cool not just the CPU... you may end up with a 1L/m flow...i dont know how good that would be?
A CPU with lapped IHS was used, an E6600 at 3.83 GHz and 1.46V. The next magazine will feature a test with a quad.
The fact that the TDX performs second best just makes the whole test a bunch of BS. I really don't understand why anyone would try to defend this test at all.
Well the TDX is ranked third, because the "bowed" Apogee GTX is ranked second, but not listed in the chart. And he might just have gotten a TDX that makes great contact with his CPU. How much of an effect the fit between CPU and waterblock has is nothing new I guess... the few degrees difference between the top coolers are very much dependent on which one sits best on the IHS.
no.. a TDX will lose to a apogeeGT and GTX unbowed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nickel020
It will also lose to the Enzo block, and lose to a D-tek fusion, and also lose to many other blocks.
the TDX is crap compared to the newer blocks you can get. I wouldnt recomend anyone to go out and buy one unless they whore blocks like i do. I have a TDX silver, and its sitting in my box of parts. Its sucks crap compared to the newer generation of blocks.
DD has a third evolution coming out soon. I guess this is there chance at salvation. If you want a DD Block, i suggest you wait on that, otherwise companies like EK Swiftech and D-tek will make you wish you got them instead.
This is getting complicated. I'm sure somewhere in Taipei, some executive has a chart like that in different colors, except the name of the first bar is ThermalTake. And the same chart probably exists in Seoul at the Koolance headquarters as well.
Look at the smile of that guy, Jan P. I gather he's some executive at Aqua Computer, or maybe he's an editor at HardwareLuxx lol "We're simply the best! Better than all the rest!"
I think you guys should keep an open mind on this. After all, they are Germans and unseeming stuff can be possible.