Zalman VF1000 LED meets Asus 8800GTX

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10-01-2007, 03:12 AM
PcCI2iminal

Zalman VF1000 LED meets Asus 8800GTX

The copper heatsink is well machined and the base is polished like a mirror :)

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/8619/56412280fn4.jpg
http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/9800/29109519dc8.jpg

The installation is as simple as on any other card(8800 uses the 5# hole position)
Zalman's 80mm fan is a 2 ball bearing type, rotating -> 1400-2500 RPM and 18-28 dBA(even at high speed the VF-1000's fan isn't very loud)

Testing - room temp 25c

Stock HSF 60%
idle->61C
load->87C
http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/2975/idle61px4.jpg
http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/3903/load87sl0.jpg

Zalman VF1000 LED low
idle->54C
load->79C
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/552/idle54cbn3.jpg
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/83/load79cig4.jpg

Zalman VF1000 LED high
idle->51C
load->69C
http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/281/idle51cqr8.jpg
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/1096/load69cww5.jpg

I was expecting like 45C(2500rpm) something for idle ..well its ok, 8800GTX generate some serious heat and need an equally serious cooling method and the VF1000 LED definately performs better than stock cooling,thats it :)

MB->DFI UT LP P35
CPU->QX6700
CPU cooler->Intel cooler box
VGA->Asus 8800GTX
VGA cooler->Stock HSF and Zalman VF1000 LED
VGA RAm sinks->Tt DuOrb sinks :)
RAM->2 x 512mb Umax Castor + Scythe Kama Wing
PSU->Giga-EZ 1000w
Room temp->25c

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/7...9030px1.th.jpg http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/5...9773xa2.th.jpg http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9...3487co1.th.jpg http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/6...0641kp2.th.jpg http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/4...1067iy8.th.jpg http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1...5509fv8.th.jpg
10-01-2007, 05:42 AM
SKYMTL

At almost $100 (and over $100 here in Canada) those are some disappointing temps at low speed. And from what I hear, at high speed it is horribly loud to many people.

Was the installation done with the stock Zalman thermal compound?
10-01-2007, 06:19 AM
naokaji

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKYMTL

At almost $100 (and over $100 here in Canada) those are some disappointing temps at low speed. And from what I hear, at high speed it is horribly loud to many people.

Was the installation done with the stock Zalman thermal compound?

the 100$ would be with the ram cooler zalman sells as an addon, the vf1000 alone doesnt cost more than any other cooler...

but i have to agree on the preformance part... the performance of the vf1000 makes me hug my hr03... (not really, i'm at work, my hr03 at home:p: )
10-01-2007, 06:58 AM
PcCI2iminal

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKYMTL

Was the installation done with the stock Zalman thermal compound?

the generic thermal grease?
nah , i used AS5 ,for the price being paid, Zalman should include a vial of its excellent thermal grease......

Quote:

Originally Posted by naokaji

the 100$ would be with the ram cooler zalman sells as an addon, the vf1000 alone doesnt cost more than any other cooler...

yep ,you rite
100us$ -> VF1000 + RAM cooler
but only the Zalman is a bit expensive than the other cooler

Quote:

but i have to agree on the preformance part... the performance of the vf1000 makes me hug my hr03... (not really, i'm at work, my hr03 at home:p

hehehehe , keep the HR-03 ;)

The VF1000 needs two more pipes and a better fan....well,about the extra pipes i can do nothing but about the fan i will put a 120mm on it :)
10-01-2007, 07:17 AM
Start

Nice review again :). By any chance, do you have an HR-03 Plus you can do a direct comparison too? I think its safe to say the HR-03 Plus will outperform the VF1000, but by how much. This cooler only takes up 1 slot as well correct?
10-01-2007, 07:40 AM
Jodiuh

I bet it would do a lot better w/ a couple lo-speed 120's strapped on. :D
10-01-2007, 11:53 AM
SaII

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jodiuh

I bet it would do a lot better w/ a couple lo-speed 120's strapped on. :D

so would the stock cooler
10-01-2007, 01:24 PM
IcY18

No offense to anyone here but with the numerous conclusions that the HR-03 is better i kind of get this knee jerk reaction that no :banana::banana::banana::banana: the HR-03 is going to be better, it takes up 2 or three slots WITHOUT a fan. It appears that the Zalman takes up three slots with a fan and while its performance doesn't exactly challenge the HR-03 it doesn't because it's in a different weight class rather than a lack design.
10-01-2007, 02:17 PM
PcCI2iminal

Quote:

Originally Posted by SP33DFR34K

I think its safe to say the HR-03 Plus will outperform the VF1000, but by how much. This cooler only takes up 1 slot as well correct?

yep ,1 slot

Quote:

Nice review again :). By any chance, do you have an HR-03 Plus you can do a direct comparison too?

can you help again with graphs?:D
cz in two days the HR-03 Plus will be here :)

IcY18

The HR-03 is much better but "for me" the point now is how to boost up my Zalman and the only way is to take out the 80mm fan and replace it with a 120mm or two,slots free will be not a problem for me cz I don`t use any expansion card in my gaming rig :)
10-01-2007, 04:03 PM
Start

Quote:

Originally Posted by PcCI2iminal

yep ,1 slot

can you help again with graphs?:D
cz in two days the HR-03 Plus will be here :)

IcY18

The HR-03 is much better but "for me" the point now is how to boost up my Zalman and the only way is to take out the 80mm fan and replace it with a 120mm or two,slots free will be not a problem for me cz I don`t use any expansion card in my gaming rig :)

Awesome, I'll get your graph plotted when the HR03 Plus gets up :)
10-01-2007, 05:00 PM
gmod

Quote:

Originally Posted by PcCI2iminal

yep ,1 slot

can you help again with graphs?:D
cz in two days the HR-03 Plus will be here :)

IcY18

The HR-03 is much better but "for me" the point now is how to boost up my Zalman and the only way is to take out the 80mm fan and replace it with a 120mm or two,slots free will be not a problem for me cz I don`t use any expansion card in my gaming rig :)

Please post some pics when you do that..I have 2 Zalmans on some Ultra's..was thinking about doing the samething..
10-01-2007, 08:08 PM
kite7

You have DuOrb ramsinks but do you have the cooler? I'd like to see the VF1000 vs DuOrb
10-01-2007, 08:36 PM
tbone8ty

i wonder if u can take the ihs off and use this cooler?

i bet it would perform alot better.
10-01-2007, 09:11 PM
Jodiuh

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaII

so would the stock cooler

Not really. The stock cooler has fins that would block airflow going through if placed on top. A blower would be needed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by IcY18

...the HR-03 is going to be better, it takes up 2 or three slots WITHOUT a fan.

3 slots w/ a fan, but you need to leave room for the fan to pull in, so effectively 4! That's what makes it so difficult. Tho a 120@1200 would be much quieter AND give better temps. For example, I'm running 60C load in 24C ambient w/ the HR-03 Plus and an X-Fi. And that still leaves us room for one 1 expansion card such as the popular areca, killer nic, physix card, or an X-Fi provided the 1st PCIe slot's not jacked as seen on the Commando/P5K boards from Asus.

EDIT: to make more sense
10-02-2007, 01:07 AM
naokaji

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jodiuh

3 slots w/ a fan, but you need to leave room for the fan to pull in, so effectively 4! That's what makes it so difficult. But if you don't run raid off the popular areca card, killer nic, or physix card...it leaves room for the X-Fi. :D And the 120@1200's I'm running's much quieter AND you get better temps. 60 load in 24C ambient.

i have a single 8800 GTS as the only card in my pc... so i dont have any size issues with my hr03 + Sflex fan...

but yes.. for someone who runs someting like sli + areca card + x-fi card it would be out of question to use a hr03.
10-02-2007, 05:14 AM
Jodiuh

Let's say one did opt for the Zalman + multiple add in cards. That would lower the airflow getting to the card and probably raise noise and temps. For $100 w/ the RAM plate, I just don't see this as anything but a failure from Zalman. Not to sound like a Thermalright fanboy, but there's been nothing from Zalman to interest me in a couple years now.

EDIT: $ w/ RAM cooler add on
10-02-2007, 05:42 AM
PcCI2iminal

Quote:

Originally Posted by SP33DFR34K

Awesome, I'll get your graph plotted when the HR03 Plus gets up :)

thx my friend
--->24 hours left hehehe

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmod

Please post some pics when you do that..I have 2 Zalmans on some Ultra's..was thinking about doing the samething..

ok i will post some pics :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbone8ty

i wonder if u can take the ihs off and use this cooler?

i bet it would perform alot better.

is it safe?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jodiuh

Let's say one did opt for the Zalman + multiple add in cards. That would lower the airflow getting to the card and probably raise noise and temps. For $100, I just don't see this as anything but a failure from Zalman. .

its not 100us$ ,its 65us$ (8 ram sinks included)

Quote:

Not to sound like a Thermalright fanboy, but there's been nothing from Zalman to interest me in a couple years now

I like both but Zalman needs to learn a bit more from Thermalright(its my opinion :) )
10-02-2007, 05:51 AM
PcCI2iminal

Quote:

Originally Posted by kite7

You have DuOrb ramsinks but do you have the cooler? I'd like to see the VF1000 vs DuOrb

here you go
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=159859

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/1481/077zx7.jpg

47C idle and I will finish the test later :)
10-02-2007, 07:29 AM
eva2000

nice stuff as usual :D

cowie also played with VF1000 but in SLI http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=4789 - you need flexible SLI connector as non-flexible ones won't fit due to heatpipe getting in the way.
10-02-2007, 07:31 AM
Jodiuh

Alright, neither this Zalman or the Thermalright have ANYTHING on that cooler. It looks like a pair of t1ts! :D
10-02-2007, 10:02 AM
kite7

Quote:

Originally Posted by PcCI2iminal

here you go
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=159859

*snip*

47C idle and I will finish the test later :)

Looking good. I wonder how it will do in a case though, probably around 50C idle then
10-02-2007, 12:43 PM
TouGe

If you own a P5K-D board you can mount the HR-03+ so that the HS/fan is above the NB and only have to sacrifice the stupid wireless card and there is no difference in temps doing so other than keeping the back of the card a little cooler.

Also, if you plan on OC'ing your GPU you'll run into problems with the VF1000. After installing mine I kept getting freezes in games until I backed down to stock clocks--I had zero problems w/ that OC (in sig) and the HR-03+. Why spend all that money on a HS if it won't allow you to overclock? Further, no offense here, the RAM sink is not worth the money. Get some copper sinks instead and bend the fins for clearance.
10-02-2007, 01:37 PM
Jodiuh

Do you have a fan riding on top of the HR-03 then? I'm just concerned the TRUE wouldn't fit w/ a fan. Also, I'd need another fan below to cool the ram.
10-02-2007, 01:44 PM
phelan1777

Any idea if it will work on a naked core 8800? Is it GTS/GTX specific?
10-02-2007, 11:32 PM
TopherTony

really interesting work here. I am awaiting more with anticipation
10-03-2007, 03:13 AM
cowie

Quote:

Originally Posted by TouGe

If you own a P5K-D board you can mount the HR-03+ so that the HS/fan is above the NB and only have to sacrifice the stupid wireless card and there is no difference in temps doing so other than keeping the back of the card a little cooler.

Also, if you plan on OC'ing your GPU you'll run into problems with the VF1000. After installing mine I kept getting freezes in games until I backed down to stock clocks--I had zero problems w/ that OC (in sig) and the HR-03+. Why spend all that money on a HS if it won't allow you to overclock? Further, no offense here, the RAM sink is not worth the money. Get some copper sinks instead and bend the fins for clearance.

hmmmm i did not notice slower clocks with my a3 gts
stock volts 675 playing moh a for a few hrs.
with the zalman 699 24/7 np,but have not tried the hr-03.
if its the money yes its quite pricey
in sli i can slip a fan(2x90mm) under the bottom card now which i cuold not do with stock h/s.
i think it pays off with good temps at higher volts(1.48)load no where near 75c like stock fan,(66)and seems to have much better post load temp back down.
but heatsink reveiws are all about amb temps so....two or three c differance means alot to out come.

BTW it looks smoking hot on the black pbc...i know looks are not everything
10-03-2007, 04:27 AM
TouGe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jodiuh

Do you have a fan riding on top of the HR-03 then? I'm just concerned the TRUE wouldn't fit w/ a fan. Also, I'd need another fan below to cool the ram.

Yes, a 92mm.
10-03-2007, 02:22 PM
PcCI2iminal

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

nice stuff as usual :D

cowie also played with VF1000 but in SLI http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=4789 - you need flexible SLI connector as non-flexible ones won't fit due to heatpipe getting in the way.

thx George :)

cowie

nice review :)

Quote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by kite7

Looking good. I wonder how it will do in a case though, probably around 50C idle then

yep it's 2-4c more

HR-03 plus is here

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/8076/024tl7.jpg

I'm a little busy at work but i will try to update asap :)
10-03-2007, 05:28 PM
cowie

that would niceto see
are you useing rhs88 on the card?
10-04-2007, 04:50 AM
PcCI2iminal

Quote:

Originally Posted by cowie

that would niceto see
are you useing rhs88 on the card?

No ,now I'm using the sinks from HR-03 Plus

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/7140/rhs88rr8.jpg

Is this some kind of extension to carry the heat out from the IHS?any improvement?
10-04-2007, 05:36 AM
PcCI2iminal

http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/3765/009nr9.jpg

idle 44C
load 59C

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/1...e44cee3.th.jpg http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/4...d59cta0.th.jpg

room temp->25C
fan->Globe Fan B07138812L 92x92x25mm 41CFM 25dBA

not bad for that 92mm fan :) but i have something better than Globe Fan

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/6219/015np1.jpg

Sanyo Denki
F12-N->88CFM
F12-PWM->99CFM
F12-N/38->104CFM
F12-HHH->260CFM

it will be nice to see Zalman + San Ace vs HR-03 Plus + San Ace :)
10-04-2007, 07:57 AM
Jodiuh

Wow! Very nice.
10-04-2007, 11:44 AM
cowie

Quote:

Originally Posted by PcCI2iminal

No ,now I'm using the sinks from HR-03 Plus

Is this some kind of extension to carry the heat out from the IHS?any improvement?

the chipset guide(in pic) has to be removed to install rhs,so it acts as a few things.
cooler and rhs is nice fit,like a glove,witch may help spread the heat

i have not tried without rhs, had not good e-nuff heatsinks

http://aycu38.webshots.com/image/277...0637433_rs.jpg

yeah that would be nice hr-03 +fan vs zf 1000 +fan
10-04-2007, 02:10 PM
PcCI2iminal

Quote:

Originally Posted by cowie

the chipset guide(in pic) has to be removed to install rhs,so it acts as a few things.
cooler and rhs is nice fit,like a glove,witch may help spread the heat

i have not tried without rhs, had not good e-nuff heatsinks

yeah that would be nice hr-03 +fan vs zf 1000 +fan

thx for that information :)
10-04-2007, 07:21 PM
Start

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Chart as promised. Boy the DuOrb was shocking...
10-05-2007, 01:14 AM
Jodiuh

Well, I don't think any of us are surprised. HR-03's a wonderful cooler...you just have to make room for it. :D
10-05-2007, 07:36 AM
naokaji

Quote:

Originally Posted by SP33DFR34K

Chart as promised. Boy the DuOrb was shocking...

like anyone would have needed any further proof that TT sucks:p: spend money to get worse temps than with stock cooling:rofl:
10-05-2007, 08:54 AM
kite7

Quote:

Originally Posted by naokaji

like anyone would have needed any further proof that TT sucks:p: spend money to get worse temps than with stock cooling:rofl:

But you would think that it should be better than a VF900 on a GTX, because it's essentially two vf900 together kinda
10-07-2007, 04:42 AM
MexxT

Quote:

Originally Posted by PcCI2iminal

idle 44C
load 59C

room temp->25C
fan->Globe Fan B07138812L 92x92x25mm 41CFM 25dBA

not bad for that 92mm fan :) but i have something better than Globe Fan

Sanyo Denki
F12-N->88CFM
F12-PWM->99CFM
F12-N/38->104CFM
F12-HHH->260CFM

it will be nice to see Zalman + San Ace vs HR-03 Plus + San Ace :)

wow dude, WAY to hot!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...nter/Tohot.jpg

50C @ full load, Clocks: C660/S1620/M975

Thermalright HR-03 Plus With Coolermaster 120mm Silent LED (1200RPM)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...w_DSCF1425.jpg
10-08-2007, 03:04 PM
PcCI2iminal

Quote:

Originally Posted by SP33DFR34K

Chart as promised. Boy the DuOrb was shocking...

thx again my friend :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kite7

But you would think that it should be better than a VF900 on a GTX, because it's essentially two vf900 together kinda

I will put the VF900 on 88GTX :)

MexxT

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9205/imagemye8.jpg

HR-03 Plus + SanAce 120x120x25 88CFM
Room Temp->27c
:)
10-12-2007, 10:54 PM
k0rn_h0li0

to me the TT looks like two vf900's stuck together into one really long heatpipes coming from both sides. but the hr-03 are doing better than the TT and the vf1000. it doesn't look like the 1000's are doing so well. i could be using those pci slots for something rather than such a huge heatsink LOL
10-24-2007, 09:00 AM
gundersausage

Quote:

Originally Posted by SP33DFR34K

Chart as promised. Boy the DuOrb was shocking...

Dude check out this review, he cant have had the DuOrb mounted correctly, it took 19 degrees off the stock 8800GTX cooler under load

http://www.xtremecomputing.co.uk/rev...?id=380&page=6

Even the progression of the idle temps suggest it would be between the VF1000 and the HR-03 Plus
10-24-2007, 05:18 PM
PcCI2iminal

Quote:

Originally Posted by gundersausage

Dude check out this review, he cant have had the DuOrb mounted correctly, it took 19 degrees off the stock 8800GTX cooler under load

http://www.xtremecomputing.co.uk/rev...?id=380&page=6

Even the progression of the idle temps suggest it would be between the VF1000 and the HR-03 Plus

Its very easy to mount and the DuOrb is mouted correctly :)
I saw this review and then I decided to test again,the thermal paste used is not good as AS5 but it is not bad at all.

idle = 43c(room temp is 22c)
load = 92c+

the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnDzV0pXoMI

the contact was good

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8382/036nt0.jpg

and now HR-03 Plus + 92mm 41CFM with the same thermal paste

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/7...testingpz1.jpg
10-24-2007, 07:24 PM
gundersausage

Quote:

Originally Posted by PcCI2iminal

Its very easy to mount and the DuOrb is mouted correctly :)
I saw this review and then I decided to test again,the thermal paste used is not good as AS5 but it is not bad at all.

idle = 43c(room temp is 22c)
load = 92c+

the contact was good

Then you must have bought a fritzed one, cant have minus 20 degrees on one and another cant even beat stock, doesn't make sense
10-25-2007, 07:33 AM
PcCI2iminal

Quote:

Originally Posted by gundersausage

Then you must have bought a fritzed one, cant have minus 20 degrees on one and another cant even beat stock, doesn't make sense

yep, it doesn't make sense :( ,I don't think the heatpipes are working properly cz under heavy load the base heats very quickly and the heatpipes stays a little warm.
10-25-2007, 11:20 AM
Jodiuh

Now that's the same thing that happens w/ my Ultra 120 Extreme's pipes. They're barely warm @ full load. Now the HR-03 Plus' pipes go way past warm and almost hot.

I lapped the TRUE, so it probably won't be eligible for RMA either.
10-31-2007, 12:54 AM
gundersausage

Just installed the Thermaltake DuOrb on my Inno3D 8800GT and idle temps are 20C lower and 28C in Crysis.. Booyeah!!!
11-30-2007, 02:19 AM
rufilipino2003

i like the design of vf1000

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