E6850 L724A105 on Single Stage 4.9GHz 32M SuperPi stable (Gigabyte P35 & X38 mobos)

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09-30-2007, 11:30 AM
dinos22

E6850 L724A105 on Single Stage 4.9GHz 32M SuperPi stable (Gigabyte P35 & X38 mobos)
hey guys

got a nice chip for a comp i am going to attend next week and did some testing to see if it's any good or what :D

TEST SETUP

E6850 L724A105
C-BuZz Blackbox SS Rotary 1HP
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3P F6 bios
Gigabyte GA-X38-DQ6 F3 bios
PCI MX400 Nvidia GFX
2x1GB Corsair PC10000 week 8 '07
160GB Samsung 7200RPM IDE
620W Corsair HX620 Modular PSU
WinXP Pro SP2

Got a HARD FSB WALL at 552Mhz :(

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8...ideshotll6.jpg

basically got a 552MHz FSB wall at all multis

Validation with 9x multi (clearly i could have benchmarked at 5Ghz easy aaaaargh)

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=249019

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7...nscreensk1.png

SuperPi 1M @ 4923MHz = 10.266s

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4...171vssbdd6.png

SuperPi 32M @4.9GHz = 10m 11.151s :)

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7...66vssblff3.png

4.9GHz wPrime 32M

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/4...1vssblara6.png

4.8GHz wPrime 1024M

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4...171vssbgo6.png

4.9GHz Hexus Pifast = 19.17s

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/7...171vssbpm5.png

WATERCOOLING TESTS ADDED (Corsair Nautilus 500)

it's actually not too bad on water either with Gigabyte X38-DQ6

4481Mhz validation
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=248081

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/7...nscreentp4.png

4.3GHz Pi benchable

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1...superpind2.png

...... dual 8M SuperPi at 4GHz with 1.44v loaded >> i'd say 3D stable there too but would need to test

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7...8msupernv4.png
09-30-2007, 11:39 AM
DMH

Very nice,are you sure you didn't run it any other trouble that wasn't FSB Wall
09-30-2007, 11:48 AM
Oliver

Looks good ;).

Keep pushing it :D.
09-30-2007, 01:52 PM
introstand

Great job...
What's the temp on the last shot?
09-30-2007, 06:03 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMH

Very nice,are you sure you didn't run it any other trouble that wasn't FSB Wall

nah it was the wall

i tried for 6 hours and believe me i tried everything
09-30-2007, 10:03 PM
T_M

vccpll mod time ;)
09-30-2007, 10:18 PM
Harshal

Very Nice run :)
09-30-2007, 10:30 PM
Nosfer@tu

Great work m8 :D
09-30-2007, 10:39 PM
Achill3uS

great run dinos ;)
try the cpu with pll modded p5k series mobo, and I'm sure you could reach the 5G :D
09-30-2007, 11:31 PM
eva2000

excellent stuff dinos :D

-48C idle is pretty cool there after 32M run @4905Mhz :D
09-30-2007, 11:36 PM
Nordling

my E6850 on lol SS (-18 load) go 4600 only :(
09-30-2007, 11:50 PM
dinos22

guys i don't think those temps are right

my evap was on -48.5C lol
10-01-2007, 12:06 AM
eva2000

sounds about right..meaning very nice SS there - 1HP ! :)

my 1/4HP SS evap was around -36.5C for E6850 @4714Mhz for 32M when speedfan reported around -30.5C idle
10-01-2007, 12:12 AM
before

Very nice chip :) And very efficient 32M time.

Something colder is needed in order to push up the FSB wall a bit.
10-01-2007, 12:13 AM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by T_M

vccpll mod time ;)

i don't think it would do much

plus youngpros CPU has an extra 20MHz FSB on mine
i don't think i stand a chance against pro but i'll give it a shot in the comp heh
10-01-2007, 12:29 AM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by before

Very nice chip :) And very efficient 32M time.

Something colder is needed in order to push up the FSB wall a bit.

DRY ICE on friday for the comp with Gigabyte X38 and Corsair PC10K sticks ;) :)

but DICE will not max the CHIP i don't think

fingers crossed i can get another 25-30Mhz for some superPi ownage

this chip will bench Pi at those clocks easy on dice
10-01-2007, 03:58 AM
Sauron_Vie

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great score m8 :up:

hitting also a fsb wall @550 on my dq6:

6850 cooled by modded vapo:
10-01-2007, 07:03 AM
dinos22

nice one dude

so i changed over to X38-DQ6 and thought i might as well flash to latest bios
so from F3 to F4

my conclusion is DO NOT USE F4 bios if you have this board

F4 is ****ed :mad: i could not go past 445Mhz FSB no matter what and even that wasn't too crash hot stability wise

after trying to figure it all out i decided to flash back to F3 bios

and now all is fine

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/3...i169vssip3.png

DO NOT FLASH TO F4 BIOS on X38-DQ6 IF ANYONE ELSE IS READING!!!
10-01-2007, 07:22 AM
T_M

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

i don't think it would do much

Worth a try, you might well be suprised mate ;)
10-01-2007, 07:26 AM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by T_M

Worth a try, you might well be suprised mate ;)

i'm not a guy that uses soldering irons nor do i have a steady hand
while i could probably follow instuctions and all i don't dare :banana::banana::banana::banana: around a few days before the comp starts

as you know gigabyte PCIe voltage is tied in to PLL and i only gained 4MHz FSB by going from stock to +0.35v so it's just colder temps that will help me on the comp
10-01-2007, 08:46 AM
over@locker886

Great work! ;)

Lot of chip, have fsb wall about 550:(
10-01-2007, 02:08 PM
before

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

DRY ICE on friday for the comp with Gigabyte X38 and Corsair PC10K sticks ;) :)

but DICE will not max the CHIP i don't think

fingers crossed i can get another 25-30Mhz for some superPi ownage

this chip will bench Pi at those clocks easy on dice

Good luck buddy :toast:
10-01-2007, 03:48 PM
dinos22

fingers crossed :D :up:
10-01-2007, 10:19 PM
EXPANDER

Good
10-01-2007, 10:27 PM
Fhqwhgads6680

Nice Chip dinos! Makes me think back to the mobil athlon xp days with their unlocked multis.... how nice that was

What I would give to find a way to unlock the multis on a core 2! lol...

Good luck man!
10-01-2007, 11:07 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fhqwhgads6680

Nice Chip dinos! Makes me think back to the mobil athlon xp days with their unlocked multis.... how nice that was

What I would give to find a way to unlock the multis on a core 2! lol...

Good luck man!

lol wouldn't we all

Intel would be pissed as hell heheheh

actually if was kind of nice to get an extra multi with my Opteron 146 >> i had a mutant with 11xmulti :shocked: :D
10-05-2007, 04:11 AM
saaya

so... you like orange dinos? :D
10-05-2007, 04:24 AM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

so... you like orange dinos? :D

pink i don't mind :D :rofl:
10-08-2007, 02:00 AM
saaya

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

pink i don't mind :D :rofl:

how about a new heatspreader in the shape of a rose with small pink leds on it blinking, would you honestly dare to put them in your system? ^^
10-08-2007, 02:03 AM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

how about a new heatspreader in the shape of a rose with small pink leds on it blinking, would you honestly dare to put them in your system? ^^

sure :D
you dare to send me a kit like that :ROTF: :p: :rofl:
10-09-2007, 02:50 AM
saaya

i could write a competitiors name on it and make it a mud campaign hahah :D
jk :)
10-09-2007, 02:54 AM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

i could write a competitiors name on it and make it a mud campaign hahah :D
jk :)

rofl
i was just :banana::banana::banana::banana: teasing right :p: :D
10-09-2007, 04:01 AM
dinos22

oh btw
the comp i was testing this equipment for was held on last friday night

here is some more on the event itself

Gigabyte Overclocking Masters Sydney 2007
organised by Gigabyte and Atomic Magazine :)

http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/gigabyte.asp

YOUTUBE VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBK7GSgfO2g
put together by Atomic's own David Field
Love the soundtrack Dave ;) :D
didn't want to use a direct link from Atomic in case they didn't want too much bandwidth being used

quali round was just about submitting the best 1M SuperPi score (ssssoooo lucky we don't live in US so we can get away with 9.7/9.8/9.9 scores hahahahah)

:D

second stage was supposed to be a home overclock with equipment received but due to a logistics problem some competitors didn't receive the gear and Gigabyte kindly decided to fly all competitors into Sydney for the 4-way battle (3 first stage finalists plus Josh (tech writer for Atomic Magazine :up: )

Competitors:
kayl (who most of you here know :))
youngpro (killer Aussie talent :D and a top 10 HWBOT wordwide bencher rubbing shoulders with the likes of macci, stoolman, Maxi, joe_cool and rest of great Ocers)
dinos22 (<me LOL)
& Moloko (Josh > tech writer for Atomic Magazine in Australia >> prior to that a guy will the most comprehensive threads i've ever read :up: >> too busy now heheh)

Hardware:
Gigabyte X38-DQ6
2GB Kit of PC10000 Corsair DDR2 Goodness
Intel E6850 L724A105 CPU
Gigabyte 320MB 8800GTS
Gigabyte ODIN 800W PSU
DRYICE Tube by Kayl

well i didn't fly anywhere as i live in Sydney :D but it was great going to a venue a minute's walk from Sydney Opera House (Minus 5 bar) and going for gold!!!

We benched 3DMARK06 first and later 1M SuperPi. There was a little :banana::banana::banana::banana:up with very little acetone brought in for the event LOL so we used Vodka :rofl: :D and James's (youngpro's) better half brought in some nail polish remover later on hehehe which was even worse hahahah

it was a really fun night with lots of Atomicans (35 forum members won tickets to attend the show). I have to say that i had a great laugh and met some nice fellas :). I forgot what one of them was called but he was hilarious hahaha or maybe it was a few bottles of wine talking hahahahah

this event was a really good mix of socialising and overclocking. We had Colin and Lili from Gigabyte and Kevin from Nvidia and heaps of great Atomic crew.

In terms of the overclocking part of the show we had a lot of issues with low temps due to lack of acetone. Because the temps were really i ended up letting my rig rest on speedstep and really low volts and clocks to try and get as low a temp as possible and then did my runs. I also realised that this rubbish nail polish remover was actually starting to prevent CO2 from evaporating so during the runs i was stirring it and hitting the mix like crazy with the spoon's end to let it breathe and didn't use too much dice...... i was using small amounts of nail polish remover gradually

here is a photo of what i am talking about.... EEEEK

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/7...idchunkdt7.jpg

solid chunk fell out of the tube when i flogged it off into the kitchen sink LOL

i really paid attention to my insulation and made sure i had it as airtight as possible with blutac sealing the tube really well

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/9423/bluetacuz5.jpg

i was also running on kayl rev1 tube due to a misunderstanding between us all. I thought that we were just literally just supposed to show up with the mobo/CPU/RAM and rest would be provided to keep things the same and fair.................had i known i could have used my kingpin pot i would of course bring it over but it was ok i guess

i think a little bit of prep and lots of luck helped me get across the line to take out both SuperPi and 3DMARK heats :)

i pulled off some 4.5GHz and 4.6GHz 3D runs and gotten 12562 and 12602 with my 8800GTS 320MB with 700/999

1M i managed to do 10.315s @4.9GHz run but doing the same thing again....waiting for the tube to cool down at low volts and clocks and then quickly running my benches and waiting 5 minutes between them on idle to try and improve

eventually i could no longer even keep 4.5GHz stable and just pulled the rig apart

youngpro had a lot of trouble with the board i think and pulled it apart a million times :( and temps were even worse on his rig.....i think he had the worst temps and then josh

kayl had awesome temps EEEK -69C in bios WOW
but his CPU was a dog :( from what he told me

i think James came second in 3D with a 12.1K run and josh after that with 11.6K....not sure if kayl managed to get any runs in 3D or pi now or was it josh...sorry my memory is :banana::banana::banana::banana:house

if our temps were normal my CPU had a FSB wall so i would be topping out at 4.9GHz regardless and i think James's and Josh's chips were a bit better but that's how it went down i guess

all in all it was a great event and one i would love to be a part of again if there was an opportunity
10-09-2007, 11:03 PM
saaya

wow nice!!
why did you wrap neoprene around the nb heatsink?
10-09-2007, 11:37 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

wow nice!!
why did you wrap neoprene around the nb heatsink?

DRY ICE :D
10-10-2007, 02:56 AM
saaya

heheheh thought so :D
did you meassure the nb temp?
did cooling the nb to subzero help?
10-10-2007, 04:35 AM
dinos22

didn't measure the temps but it was cold

i didn't really try to compare before and after but thought it wouldn't hurt to have DICE on it
10-11-2007, 11:46 AM
4Qman

dinos22
A awesome video man, Enjoyed it from start to end. :D
10-14-2007, 04:34 AM
dinos22

yeah Dave put a quick video together and i must say he's done a great job

love the soundtrack :D
10-14-2007, 06:23 AM
Turrican

hehe, nice video :D

btw here's my e6850 @ stock vapochill ls.
http://s1.directupload.net/images/071014/6sukgodn.jpg
10-15-2007, 06:51 AM
dinos22

not bad :)
10-21-2007, 12:58 AM
nachthymnen

E6850 L626B205 under H2O(Air temp @ 7°C, CPU temps from bios is +12/+13C):D

SPI 1M @ 4548Mhz=11.203 :eek:
http://www.pctuner.info/up/results/_...7_pi11.203.jpg
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=256978

Only 532 FSB:(
http://www.pctuner.info/up/results/_...35_pi532x6.jpg
10-21-2007, 01:11 AM
Solarfall

great video clip love to see stuff like that.. damn good overclock speeds too :toast:
11-12-2007, 06:41 AM
dinos22

:up: :up: :)
11-17-2007, 03:49 AM
MorGo7h

Nice