ASUS Blitz Extreme Mods ready to bench...

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09-24-2007, 06:11 AM
hipro5

ASUS Blitz Extreme Mods ready to bench...

Well, here we go......:)

First of all, we unsolder the VCore chokes(coils) to make more space around the CPU's socket...:)

http://www.hipro-tech.com/images/hip...es_removed.jpg

Then we resolder them back in the back side of the mobo....:D

http://www.hipro-tech.com/images/hip..._ontheback.jpg

http://www.hipro-tech.com/images/hip...hokes_back.jpg

Then we add/solder some caps if we wish....In the front and in the back of the mobo.....

http://www.hipro-tech.com/images/hip.../caps_back.jpg

http://www.hipro-tech.com/images/hip...ps_added_1.jpg

http://www.hipro-tech.com/images/hip...ps_added_2.jpg

http://www.hipro-tech.com/images/hip...ps_added_3.jpg

Then we place a heatsink (the blue one) on the PLL chip so to "stabilize" it in high fsb conditions..... ;)

http://www.hipro-tech.com/images/hip...L_heatsink.jpg

Then we do the VCore and the Vdroop Mods - no other mods needed accualy - ....

http://www.hipro-tech.com/images/hip...ore_Vdroop.jpg

.....and then we start to insulate it and place some heatsinks onto VCore Power Mos-Fets....

http://www.hipro-tech.com/images/hip...sulation_1.jpg

http://www.hipro-tech.com/images/hip...sulation_2.jpg

....and after that, we are ready to bench......BEWARE and use plastic spray on the mobo where needed..... ;)
09-24-2007, 06:17 AM
NH|Delph1

Those are some hardcore preparations :) :up:

Good luck, I wonder what he will be benching with? :D

//Andreas
09-24-2007, 06:27 AM
Nordling

hipro5

OMFG!

Additional condensers are necessary for reduction of heating of native condensers? I, on Asus Commando, had such problem, they overheat even at cooling by liquid nitrogen

And than you stirred throttles? At me NEVER was problems with a condensate on Commando. And it more than 200 hours has lead under a dry ice and more than 50 hours under liquid nitrogen
http://www.topmods.net/nord/di_v0.9.jpg
09-24-2007, 04:06 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

[B]
http://www.hipro-tech.com/images/hip...ps_added_2.jpg

http://www.hipro-tech.com/images/hip...ps_added_3.jpg

what do these yellow caps do again??
09-24-2007, 08:53 PM
erwinz

extreme mods.. :D

waiting for your results.. :)
09-24-2007, 10:33 PM
hipro5

Thanks guys.... :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

what do these yellow caps do again??

They are soldered in parallel with the existing ones so to ADD more capacity of the VCore output circuit......
They are also tantalum capacitors....
Tantalum capacitors have the advantage beyond "classical" electrolytic caps to "handle" more current.......
For example: A 100uf tantalum cap EQUALS with a 1000uf "classical" one and with ~470uf of the new "solid" caps.....
So this circuit has by default 180uf tantalum witch equals with 1800uf "classical" or ~840uf solid......
So I add another 47uf thus 180+47=227uf (each) that equals with 2270uf "classical" and ~1067uf solid......;)
A nowadays VCore "standard", is 820uf solid.....;)
09-25-2007, 01:31 AM
Achill3uS

That's call I EXTREME :D
Amazing job hipro :up:
09-25-2007, 01:47 AM
eva2000

woah extreme stuff mate... love the first pic... would scare the hell out some folks seeing their board like that initially :D

Got any pics of the backside insulation near those coke coils you moved to the backside ?
09-25-2007, 02:13 AM
saaya

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

Thanks guys.... :)

They are soldered in parallel with the existing ones so to ADD more capacity of the VCore output circuit......
They are also tantalum capacitors....
Tantalum capacitors have the advantage beyond "classical" electrolytic caps to "handle" more current.......
For example: A 100uf tantalum cap EQUALS with a 1000uf "classical" one and with ~470uf of the new "solid" caps.....
So this circuit has by default 180uf tantalum witch equals with 1800uf "classical" or ~840uf solid......
So I add another 47uf thus 180+47=227uf (each) that equals with 2270uf "classical" and ~1067uf solid......;)
A nowadays VCore "standard", is 820uf solid.....;)

i have no idea what your talking about but it sounds great :lol:
very nice mods, and so easy and clean, awesome! :toast:
09-25-2007, 02:31 AM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

woah extreme stuff mate... love the first pic... would scare the hell out some folks seeing their board like that initially :D

Got any pics of the backside insulation near those coke coils you moved to the backside ?

No, I was so anxius to put it on and bench with it that I forgot to capture the back side of it.....I'll do it when I'll move to to play SLI with the Striker...... ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

i have no idea what your talking about but it sounds great :lol:

:D

Thanks guys.....:)
09-25-2007, 02:49 AM
dinos22

lol saaya i'm with you there

but i think what he's saying is that it's somehow better than stock :D

hipro i assume you've actually had multiple benching sessions at stock and will now compare the modded board for actual difference yeah? ;)
09-25-2007, 03:04 AM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

lol saaya i'm with you there

but i think what he's saying is that it's somehow better than stock :D

hipro i assume you've actually had multiple benching sessions at stock and will now compare the modded board for actual difference yeah? ;)

Yeap...... ;)
A goog thing is that the ASUS default tantalum caps don't have cold bug (mine surely don't coz I have chose them for this).....So I can have it at -155*C all the time and it's OK.....Thank God I must say, or else I had to uninsulate it, remove them, solder some others, plastic sraying it and insulate itagain.....:)
09-25-2007, 03:31 AM
Johnny Bravo

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

Yeap...... ;)
A goog thing is that the ASUS default tantalum caps don't have cold bug (mine surely don't coz I have chose them for this).....So I can have it at -155*C all the time and it's OK.....Thank God I must say, or else I had to uninsulate it, remove them, solder some others, plastic sraying it and insulate itagain.....:)

Military spec eh George ;)
09-25-2007, 03:38 AM
T_M

Dinos, the very basic way to explain it would be that added capacitance (extra caps) gives smoother current.

Capacitors act kinda like a reservoir for electricity. They will store charge and release it as required to smooth out the current flow.

Compare it to your water cooling, a pump without a reservoir upstream will only recieve the flow that the source provides, whereas with a reservoir you are supplying a constant exact flow. When there's more water than the pump needs, it will fill the resrvoir, when there's not enough water for the pump the reservoir will make up the required water.

Hmmm, does that make sense?

Edit: heres another one - a shock absorber for electrical circuits
09-25-2007, 03:56 AM
k|ngp|n

Quote:

Originally Posted by Achill3uS

That's call I EXTREME :D
Amazing job hipro :up:

No :banana::banana::banana::banana:! :clap: Man George I love these posts with your Frankenstein boards...
09-25-2007, 06:30 AM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by k|ngp|n

No :banana::banana::banana::banana:! :clap: Man George I love these posts with your Frankenstein boards...

:D No I was too boring to do all the staff I wanted to......;)

Vince are you ready to bench NVIDIAS HIGHER than what you used to...?.....;)

@ T_M: Very nice example..... :)

@ Johnny Bravo: Look......In ALL "component world" there is a RULE....There are components which are "lebeled" somehow for best to worst - the SAME component after test - So we have "Class A" , "Class B", "Class C", etc......."Class A" goes to millitary and HIGH classed manufacturers like medical industry, HP (mesuring instraments), Hirschmann (a VERY HIGH class Germany manufacturer), etc.....
Now "Class B" goes to some other high builder companies.....
IF WE find "Class C" in the retail market, we will be more than happy.....;)
Unfortunatelly in the retail market the best someone could find, is from "Class K" and down...... :(

THE BEST is to have connections with the Hirschmann for example OR with the guy that buys VERY CHEEP the components that fails Hirschmann's tests......Yes you read well.......Hirschmann buys "Class A" componnents and they re-test them and IF they are not as they should be, they sell it by thousands to a person VERY CHEEP (just for not through them away).......Well we buy them from them......And guess what!.....They work perfect for us (but not for Hirschmann)

Example: I buy a Mos-Fet 300Watts (BLF278) from Phillips to build a 300Watts F.M. Linear Amplifier.....It has a letter "N" on it's case.....OK....I construct it and it really does ~340Watts maximum......When I unplug the Antenna from it's output, it can handle ~40Watts SWR before it burns down......
Now I get one THE SAME but with a letter "A" printed on it's case from a man from Germany who has the "stock failure" parts from Hirschmann and I put it on....It does 430Watts output and when I unplug the Antenna, it burns down at ~280Watts......;)

So in retail market, we buy bull......OR do you think that the motherboard, VGA, etc., manufacturers are buying "Class A"?.... :rofl: :(
09-25-2007, 06:53 AM
Johnny Bravo

Actually I was referring to the additional caps that you will have added; I think we're both know that if money can be saved on a motherboard it will be ;) Also the solid structure of tantalum caps is an advantage at low low temps compared to "solid" can capacitors that can by badly affected by their contents freezing.
09-25-2007, 06:55 AM
MasterCraft

That's insane. Can't wait to see the results!
09-25-2007, 01:31 PM
celemine1Gig

Stunning work as always! Extremely clean solder joints and improvements exactly where they are needed. Thumbs up. I'd really like to see a oscope screen comparison "before --> after" for VCore. :)
Too bad that oscopes are too expensive to just buy one for using it once in a month or even less. Otherwise I would already have at least one. But it's just not worth it for me right now.
09-25-2007, 01:40 PM
Okda

really extreme modding

love how u moved the coils to the back of the mobo
09-25-2007, 02:02 PM
Don_Dan

These are some very nice mods you did there. I admire your mechanical skills! Really impressive!

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

They are soldered in parallel with the existing ones so to ADD more capacity of the VCore output circuit......
They are also tantalum capacitors....
Tantalum capacitors have the advantage beyond "classical" electrolytic caps to "handle" more current.......
For example: A 100uf tantalum cap EQUALS with a 1000uf "classical" one and with ~470uf of the new "solid" caps.....
So this circuit has by default 180uf tantalum witch equals with 1800uf "classical" or ~840uf solid......
So I add another 47uf thus 180+47=227uf (each) that equals with 2270uf "classical" and ~1067uf solid......;)
A nowadays VCore "standard", is 820uf solid.....;)

However, this reminds me of my physics lessons... :D ;)
09-25-2007, 03:42 PM
[XC] gomeler

Very impressive Hipro. I've seen your previous boards where you did the same mods and I've decided that the next board I buy will receive similar mods. Clean socket for cascade benching :D
09-25-2007, 05:15 PM
toddm27

are these the same caps as you used?
http://www.mouser.com/search/Product...0-T491D476K010
09-25-2007, 05:23 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

:D [B]
Vince are you ready to bench NVIDIAS HIGHER than what you used to...?.....;)

what?
you got around it so quick :D

i want to know as well PLS ;) :D
09-25-2007, 10:46 PM
hipro5

Thank you guys.....:)

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

what?
you got around it so quick :D

i want to know as well PLS ;) :D

:up: :p:
09-25-2007, 11:00 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

Thank you guys.....:)

:up: :p:

zOMG my nvidia contacts just crashed and burnt in hipro's hands hahahaha
now you gotta be a good boy and PM me the details :D
09-26-2007, 12:06 AM
Nosfer@tu

Now what are the secs for those condensators :D

I NEED to attempt that mod man :D
09-26-2007, 12:22 AM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nosfer@tu

Now what are the secs for those condensators :D

I NEED to attempt that mod man :D

If you mean: "the specs" then they are 47uF/10VDC (Class C) and -75*C - +150*C...
09-26-2007, 11:45 AM
harleybro

I just came upon this thread. Those mods are extremely impressive and clean looking. You ARE the master of the elecronics! :clap: :clap: BTW did I see a hint at mods for Nvidia's being found? :D
09-26-2007, 12:00 PM
CyberDruid

Wow I wish i could solder that well--that's so clean!

What a great board and now that it's been Hi-Pro-ed it's beyond great.

Looking forward to your results.

I had the good fortune to receive on the of BLitz Formula--but no chance to play with it...
10-01-2007, 08:29 AM
Spacemaster

Ok but I cant see vcore mod, so cen someone take better pic, please.
Thanks in advance.
10-01-2007, 08:38 AM
toddm27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Spacemaster

Ok but I cant see vcore mod, so cen someone take better pic, please.
Thanks in advance.

vcore is the resistor I marked in red, I used a 50k ohm vr to ground from that point, worked great
10-01-2007, 10:29 PM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by toddm27

vcore is the resistor I marked in red, I used a 50k ohm vr to ground from that point, worked great

Thanks M8 for the help..... :)
10-02-2007, 03:19 AM
Spacemaster

Thanks mates. :)
10-02-2007, 03:21 AM
GTX

Hipro5,nice done there

ihave mod this one month ago,seems working fine to me
with quadcores 1.95v stable

just add some caps on the backside,and it's won't bother to ur cpu insulation:)

http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/asu...a/PA022892.JPG

http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/asu...09.01/5160.gif

with intel stockfan 1.93v
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/asu...WIthdamper.gif
10-02-2007, 04:16 AM
Johnny Bravo

wow that is ghetto modding at its finest :D
10-02-2007, 05:13 AM
dinos22

lol hicookie you're crazy dude

1.93v with intel stock cooler hahahah
10-04-2007, 04:58 AM
toddm27

anyone know where the vcore readpoint would be?
10-12-2007, 07:37 AM
Pete

Quote:

Originally Posted by toddm27

anyone know where the vcore readpoint would be?

It would be on the base off a coil i belive, but with the mod in this topic it'll be on top now
10-12-2007, 08:49 AM
MuffinFlavored

You... You... You put chokes on the bottom of the motherboard.
That is like, the smartest thing in the world.

Very detailed, good pictures.
Awesome job!
Hope to see some even more awesome results from it!
11-06-2007, 01:44 PM
Boogerlad

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTX

Hipro5,nice done there

ihave mod this one month ago,seems working fine to me
with quadcores 1.95v stable

just add some caps on the backside,and it's won't bother to ur cpu insulation:)

http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/asu...a/PA022892.JPG

Where do you get the solid capacitors?
11-14-2007, 09:24 AM
Revv23

Check mouser; digikey; etc... all the common suppliers should have them.
11-18-2007, 04:32 AM
Venom-Crusher

Could you tell me? What you're Ground point to set vcore mod please?
12-09-2007, 07:45 PM
T_M

hipro, what size VR did you use for vCore?
When i measure the resistance to ground it continually changes.
12-10-2007, 02:00 PM
hipro5

50K for VCore and 100K for the Vdroop...... :)
12-10-2007, 02:56 PM
super dank

That is some serious modding :up:

Very nice!
12-10-2007, 03:10 PM
Scubar

Did you cut the heatpipe so that it left you with the SB and Crosslinx ?

I was considering cutting the one on my Blitz so that i can use an aftermarket NB and Mosfet blocks ( Providing there are Mosfet blocks that fit )
12-11-2007, 06:43 AM
hipro5

Yes I have cuted the heatpipes.... :)

Thanks super dank... :)
01-07-2008, 03:07 PM
Ming@s

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

[B]

Then we do the VCore and the Vdroop Mods - no other mods needed accualy - ....

http://www.hipro-tech.com/images/hip...ore_Vdroop.jpg

Only one in doubt which of the vdroop?
02-18-2008, 10:11 AM
Roger_D25

Its been a while since anyone posted in this thread but I hope that I might get some help all the same! I was a bit late in getting this board but only because it took that long to find one, lol! I got my Blitz Extreme brand new about 2 weeks ago for a great deal (in my opinion). So far I very much like the board despite a few minor problems I'm having (like the onboard power/reset buttons not working).

In anycase I've been searching for many days now (multiple forums, google, and everywhere in between) trying to find the voltage read points for this board! I'd like to figure out what the actual voltages my components are "seeing". Most importantly I'm looking to find the VDIMM voltage read point! Thanks for any help you may have guys, it is greatly appreciated!
09-29-2008, 01:59 PM
Dümpler

Can someone tell me the V-Readpoints...?