Xigmatek HDT-S1283, really that good?

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09-21-2007, 02:56 AM
mitra-

Xigmatek HDT-S1283, really that good?

Hi,

I "was" about to buy a Thermalright Ultra-120 extreme, because from the reviews and comments it "was" the best air cooler.

Recently everyone is saying that Xigmatek HDT-S1283 is the new air cooling kink! Some reviews show it winning to Ultra-120 Extreme.

Is this cooler from the unknown Xigmatek (at least for me) that good? Ultra-120 extreme is 2x more expensive than the Xigmatek, and it even doesn't come with a fan.

What do you say? Should I buy the Xigmatek instead? Or, it is overrated and I should go for Ultra-120 extreme?

Thank you all! :up:
09-21-2007, 03:14 AM
nike

hey,
the ultra got twice the heatpipes and the xigmatek looks to me like an artic cooling freezer 64 pro with a alu/copperbase; no idea but how the f0ack shall this thing outperform the ultra120ex? i got both lyin aroung here(the ultra 120ex installed and the ac freezer 64 pro somewhere in the flat, around with a 9500led and such things). and i couldnt compare the coolers because i cant remember the settings. i still got my old biossettings for 2.88ghz and i will test the ultra in 32m pi, the freezer was loaded around 60c. so lets see; ill post the resulsts when done with testing. lets pray for a cold winter for all air cooling overclockers. ;D
greetz
09-21-2007, 03:17 AM
TheBeast1590

here we got it ;)
http://www.overclockers.ru/images/la...diagr_temp.png
Great performance and low price! + a powerfull fan....
09-21-2007, 05:33 AM
Spawne32

http://www.ocpulse.com/hsf_showdown/load_avg_chart.png

http://www.overclockerspulse.com/viewreviews.php?id=25
09-21-2007, 05:39 AM
mitra-

On this review it has almost the same perfornance as Ultra-120 Extreme:
http://www.overclockerspulse.com/viewreviews.php?id=25

Here they show show it winning:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/505409

So, is this the new best buy? Should I save my money and go for the Xigmatek cooler instead of the Ultra-120 extreme?
09-21-2007, 05:46 AM
Spawne32

Quote:

Originally Posted by mitra-

On this review it has almost the same perfornance as Ultra-120 Extreme:
http://www.overclockerspulse.com/viewreviews.php?id=25

Here they show show it winning:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/505409

So, is this the new best buy? Should I save my money and go for the Xigmatek cooler instead of the Ultra-120 extreme?

I would not say "the best" but pretty damn close, lets put it that way, if price or availability is the deciding factor, go with whichever suits you best in that area, as they will both be good, you can also use the thermalright LGA775 bolt thru kit on the Xigmatek if need be for added reliability. :) Just remember that when applying thermal paste on the Xigmatek, the usual grain of rice sized dot in the center does NOT work, as it will not spread out properly due to the unusual quality's of the base.
09-21-2007, 06:12 AM
mitra-

OCZ Vendetta seems like a copy of this Xigmatek. Could it be better than the Xigmatek, or will be just about the same thing?

http://www.forumpcs.com.br/galeria/a...0000061783.jpg

Can I use 120mm fans on the Xigmatek cooler? Is the fan bundled with the cooler any good?

Thanks for the help! :up:
09-21-2007, 06:20 AM
roadie

I was thinking of the Xigmatek but, as it doesn't affix by a bolt through method, it would be useless for a naked AM2 chip. Also, it loses more effectiveness at low fan speeds, which I am interested in.
09-21-2007, 06:33 AM
Spawne32

Quote:

Originally Posted by mitra-

OCZ Vendetta seems like a copy of this Xigmatek. Could it be better than the Xigmatek, or will be just about the same thing?

http://www.forumpcs.com.br/galeria/a...0000061783.jpg

Can I use 120mm fans on the Xigmatek cooler? Is the fan bundled with the cooler any good?

Thanks for the help! :up:

No your looking at the wrong one, the OCZ Vendetta is copied from the HDT-S983, which performs worse then the one you have listed in your thread title.
09-21-2007, 06:33 AM
Spawne32

Quote:

Originally Posted by roadie

I was thinking of the Xigmatek but, as it doesn't affix by a bolt through method, it would be useless for a naked AM2 chip. Also, it loses more effectiveness at low fan speeds, which I am interested in.

Yeh definitely not for a naked chip, the contact area would only be across one heatpipe with the naked AM2 chip.
09-21-2007, 06:34 AM
Spawne32

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u...2/DSCF1013.jpg
09-21-2007, 06:59 AM
mitra-

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spawne32

Yeh definitely not for a naked chip, the contact area would only be across one heatpipe with the naked AM2 chip.

I have a E6600 and a P5W-DH, will I have any problem, or is it ok?

The fan is any good or should I buy a Scythe S-Flex?
09-21-2007, 07:03 AM
Spawne32

Quote:

Originally Posted by mitra-

I have a E6600 and a P5W-DH, will I have any problem, or is it ok?

The fan is any good or should I buy a Scythe S-Flex?

your E6600 should be fine, when we say naked, we are saying that the IHS has been removed (that would be the silver thing on the top of the CPU), and i found the fan to be adequite so i dont see any change necessary. But make sure your getting the S1283, the S983 did not perform so well, i dont have the results of that smaller version released yet, but i can tell you that its not nearly as high up on the list as the S1283. The S983 is also the similar design of the OCZ Vendetta... so thats all i have to say about that :p:
09-21-2007, 07:27 AM
Start

Well pretty much most high end air cooler will relatively perform the same, but until you really kick up the overclock and kick up the voltage will will the dust clear and you will see who the real victor is.
09-21-2007, 07:30 AM
Nazu

Maybe I will buy this to replace Tuniq.
09-21-2007, 08:16 AM
mitra-

Quote:

Originally Posted by SP33DFR34K

Well pretty much most high end air cooler will relatively perform the same, but until you really kick up the overclock and kick up the voltage will will the dust clear and you will see who the real victor is.

That's a nice point.

Spawne32 (or anyone), can you say something about this? In your "Air Cooling Roundup" you've tested at default speed. But how these two coolers perform with some OC?

This is important because I want to do some OC to my E6600 :yepp:
09-21-2007, 08:21 AM
Spawne32

Quote:

Originally Posted by mitra-

That's a nice point.

Spawne32 (or anyone), can you say something about this? In your "Air Cooling Roundup" you've tested at default speed. But how these two coolers perform with some OC?

This is important because I want to do some OC to my E6600 :yepp:

Unfortunately i dont have those results yet ;-) but, as voltage increases you can expect perform to drop with any heatsink, im gona try to roll out those numbers with the overclocked settings coming up this week for everyone, im just tryin to finish up these last few heatsinks i got in, i got 3 more coming in from thermaltake as we speak but they wont be here till tuesday.
09-21-2007, 09:25 AM
Nazu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spawne32

Unfortunately i dont have those results yet ;-) but, as voltage increases you can expect perform to drop with any heatsink, im gona try to roll out those numbers with the overclocked settings coming up this week for everyone, im just tryin to finish up these last few heatsinks i got in, i got 3 more coming in from thermaltake as we speak but they wont be here till tuesday.

Do you do all of your tests with the quad? Any chance of getting numbers with a dualcore cpu :) ?
09-21-2007, 11:43 AM
Spawne32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nazu

Do you do all of your tests with the quad? Any chance of getting numbers with a dualcore cpu :) ?

I had an E4500, i wound up just getting rid of it and buying the quad core outright, during the first 2 weeks of testing, i came to find that the results were completely scalable, and the ones that performed good on the quad core, performed even better on the dual core. So for dual core performance just use the same chart, you can expect excellent results either way around if you choose a good performer from that chart. When the next phase of overclocking results are posted, you will be able to see which heatsinks fall behind, some heatsinks max out at a certain point for being about to dissipate heat. The Ultra ChillTEC for instance, will be limited by the TEC itself. As the CPU gets hotter, so will the hot side of the tec, and because the air cooler mounted to that side is pretty much already at its thermal limit, its performance will decrease faster.
09-21-2007, 12:55 PM
Nazu

I was thinking about the optimal thermalcompound spreading method for the Xigmatek cooler and this came to my mind: Spreading a line of thermalcompound over every heatpipe on the heatsink itself. IMO that would ensure a perfect distribution of thermalcompound over the heatsink and cpu. What do you guys think?
09-21-2007, 01:20 PM
Spawne32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nazu

I was thinking about the optimal thermalcompound spreading method for the Xigmatek cooler and this came to my mind: Spreading a line of thermalcompound over every heatpipe on the heatsink itself. IMO that would ensure a perfect distribution of thermalcompound over the heatsink and cpu. What do you guys think?

Not necessarily, i did try that, and on most standard base style heatsinks, it was far too much, the thermal paste just wound up going right over the edge of the IHS, or actually inhibiting the transfer of heat by a degree or 2.
09-21-2007, 01:26 PM
Nazu

Ok :) So the method you used is the best (or atleast sufficient).
09-21-2007, 01:30 PM
Spawne32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nazu

Ok :) So the method you used is the best (or atleast sufficient).

Basically, exactly as the arctic silver ceramique instructions stated, when the xigmatek failed to follow that rule, i had to look for the alternative, and the line method provided the best contact :) You gotta understand that the base isnt just a flat surface, the thermal paste is filling the cracks and spaces inbetween the heatpipes also, so you have to account for that.
09-23-2007, 02:13 AM
Nazu

Would this be useful with the HDT-S1283? I suppose it's compatible cos the cooler uses the same mounting system as the boxed one. Atleast it would make the mounting more sturdier and prevent the mobo from bending.
09-23-2007, 06:30 AM
Spawne32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nazu

Would this be useful with the HDT-S1283? I suppose it's compatible cos the cooler uses the same mounting system as the boxed one. Atleast it would make the mounting more sturdier and prevent the mobo from bending.

Yes, it will work great :)
09-23-2007, 07:40 AM
Nazu

Thanks mate :) Just ordered the Xigmatek and TR s775 bolt-thru kit.
09-23-2007, 07:41 AM
Spawne32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nazu

Thanks mate :) Just ordered the Xigmatek and TR s775 bolt-thru kit.

S1283 right? Where did you order that from?
09-23-2007, 07:46 AM
Nazu

Yep it's the S1283. Ordered it from a finnish store that sells water/aircooling products. Cooler was 46,90€ and the mounting kit 7,90€.
09-23-2007, 07:51 AM
Spawne32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nazu

Yep it's the S1283. Ordered it from a finnish store that sells water/aircooling products. Cooler was 46,90€ and the mounting kit 7,90€.

so about the same as american money right? Judging from what i calculated previously. Should be a good deal :)
09-23-2007, 08:45 AM
Nazu

Using this I get 66 dollars if I convert it from the euros. For a comparison Tuniq Tower is 48€ and TR Ultra 120 Extreme 62€ (without a fan). I would say it's a pretty good deal when looking the performance and you get a decent fan with the cooler :)
09-23-2007, 10:07 AM
Crow-

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nazu

Yep it's the S1283. Ordered it from a finnish store that sells water/aircooling products. Cooler was 46,90€ and the mounting kit 7,90€.

In Portugal it costs 35€ :p:
09-23-2007, 10:52 AM
Nazu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crow-

In Portugal it costs 35€ :p:

That's cheap!
09-23-2007, 12:32 PM
wa2000

Where can I buy Xigmatek HDT-S1283 in US?
09-23-2007, 12:47 PM
Spawne32

Quote:

Originally Posted by wa2000

Where can I buy Xigmatek HDT-S1283 in US?

you cant get it in the USA yet for retail sale, but i am working on that with them, ill have to post up when they finally get a USA retailer.
09-25-2007, 01:39 AM
DoomSayer

in belgium it only 33 euro's ($47).
so if you payed 46 for it you got screwed bigtime :p
i looked at this cooler but at the time i wanted it, it wasnt for sale yet.
so i just went for the TRUE
10-31-2007, 08:01 AM
ProjectGSX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spawne32

you cant get it in the USA yet for retail sale, but i am working on that with them, ill have to post up when they finally get a USA retailer.

Any updates on this?

After doing some research, the HDT-S1283 seems to be the best compromise between price and performance. Id love to get one here in the states.
10-31-2007, 08:21 AM
Spawne32

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProjectGSX

Any updates on this?

After doing some research, the HDT-S1283 seems to be the best compromise between price and performance. Id love to get one here in the states.

Apparently they are setting up a USA HQ or somthing right now, not sure till we see them on the market though, but petra will likely be one of the first to get in on selling them.
10-31-2007, 01:52 PM
metro.cl

It is a great cooler seem like the HDT is the key t good performance, i got 4 of their coolers on a round-up.

http://www.chilehardware.com/images/1192741834_11.jpg

Source: Chilehardware
10-31-2007, 07:20 PM
Seer

I really don't like the push pin design on it =(
10-31-2007, 07:33 PM
Spawne32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer

I really don't like the push pin design on it =(

the thermalright bolt through kit works fine i believe :)
11-01-2007, 11:11 AM
Nazu

Yes the Thermalright s775 bolt on kit works perfectly with the Xigmatek cooler. From what I have used this cooler it has proved to be slightly worse than the Tuniq at full load. At idle the temps are lower with the Xigmatek and with low loads but when there's 100% load on both cores the temps get too high, even with the fan full speed. I have tried two different methods to put the thermal compound on the cpu and both gave me the same temps.
11-05-2007, 04:25 PM
EvilBellyLint

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spawne32

you cant get it in the USA yet for retail sale, but i am working on that with them, ill have to post up when they finally get a USA retailer.

Xigmatek (or Xigmatek's manufacturer) already sells coolers in the U.S.,
under Kingwin's label:

Re-badged Xigmatek Cooler

;)

EBL
11-23-2007, 11:30 AM
Nazu

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvilBellyLint

Xigmatek (or Xigmatek's manufacturer) already sells coolers in the U.S.,
under Kingwin's label:

Re-badged Xigmatek Cooler

;)

EBL

FYI that's not the same cooler. S1283 uses 120mm and that Kingwin one uses 92mm fan. Now to my question: What do you guys think, would it be wise to invest in a Scythe Ultra Kaze 3000 fan to improve the performance? I don't mind the noise cos I have a fancontroller to slow down the fan at low loads.
11-23-2007, 11:41 AM
Spawne32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nazu

FYI that's not the same cooler. S1283 uses 120mm and that Kingwin one uses 92mm fan. Now to my question: What do you guys think, would it be wise to invest in a Scythe Ultra Kaze 3000 fan to improve the performance? I don't mind the noise cos I have a fancontroller to slow down the fan at low loads.

it could improve the performance, but no guarantees here lol
11-23-2007, 11:51 AM
Nazu

I might give it a try. For sure the Scythe fan has a higher static pressure and blows more air so it can't be worse than the stock one. Also taking account the Xigmatek's relatively tight fin spacing the heatsink might benefit nicely from high cfm/static pressure fan.
11-23-2007, 06:42 PM
EvilBellyLint

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nazu

FYI that's not the same cooler. S1283 uses 120mm and that Kingwin one uses 92mm fan.

Correction. :rolleyes:

I never said the Kingwin model I linked was the Xigmatek S1283.
I said it was a re-badged Xigmatek being sold in the U.S., which it is.

The Kingwin RVT-9255 is the Xigmatek S963.

EBL

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