2.4c @ 3.82 - default voltage 1.525

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07-11-2003, 02:46 PM
r00t3d

2.4c @ 3.82 - default voltage 1.525

Where do I start :banana:

I am seriously impressed with the chip I have, I have got it to 3.82GHz @ default voltage of 1.525.

http://www.crew-tde.net/r00t3d/prometeia/3820.bmp

With all this glory comes some sad news, for which there is most likely a FIX :stick:

Windows XP just takes forever to bootup, everything runs dog s**t slow, this is anything past FSB of 300, then I get this, my system Windows XP, keeps coming up with an error "Windows has recovered from a device failure" you need to save work and reboot yada yada yada... my system then goes into 640*480 and I cant get it into a higher rez, I somehow have the feeling that the graphics is letting me down here.

I currently have the radeon set to 1.7v from the bios, It can go higer upto 2.2v, do I need to RAISE the voltage on the graphics?
or do I have a driver problem?

I am lost, any help appreciated.
07-11-2003, 02:54 PM
r00t3d

By the way, once I get that error message from windows, everything works fine again, and safe mode has no problems, seems like a graphics/driver problem :(
07-11-2003, 02:55 PM
sandman

Sounds like it might need more voltage, or maybe the northbridge needs more voltage.
07-11-2003, 02:59 PM
r00t3d

Then again maybe the northbridge needs better cooling, currently its on the standard HS that comes with the Epox, I havent even put any AS3 on it.
07-11-2003, 03:06 PM
Spawn

id be seriously impressed with an oc like that m8...:toast: good job and on stock...wow...:eek:

if u dont mind telling me wots ur specs of the machine ur running it on...im using a 2.4c cpu as well but have major probs getting stable at 3ghz...hopefully its cos of the ram thats holding me back...current one i have is a week 11 malay which si supposedly good for 3.6 on air.....btw im using an abit ic7g with 512mb ocz el gold pc3700 sticks...

again nice job done m8...:toast:

oopps as regards to ur problems in winxp...wot drivers are u using for the radeon gfx??..latest cats??...if so try the older ones etc...u coudl try upping ur agp voltage..might stabilise it a bit or up ur vcore a tad as well....and vdimm if u can....other than that it could be a northbridge problem...but hard to say...
07-11-2003, 03:10 PM
SpicyHuevos

try a different video card. and what psu you using.
I had same issues with my 9800 at 4200 with a 2.8p4.
I got a differnt ati and it stopped;)
07-11-2003, 04:54 PM
j2me_tech

the speed is achieve using prommy or air cooling? prommy i suppose :). nice btw :banana:.
07-11-2003, 05:21 PM
charlie

do you have winxp sp1?
C
07-11-2003, 08:45 PM
Creative

Hey nice OC

I have a 2.4C sitting here not opened and was wondering what Week and place of make yours is?

Cheers
:)
07-11-2003, 10:44 PM
macci

Set AGP/PCI above 66/33. Should fix the 'slowdown' problems. Use setfsb to check the AGP/PCI speed. It can also be used for adjusting AGP/PCI too thou.
07-11-2003, 10:52 PM
Major

Nice r00t3d !!!!

how about some details about the chip ? stepping ?
07-12-2003, 03:50 AM
r00t3d

Sorry guys,

I went to bed after all that last night, just got up :)

I am/have been using 3343 drivers and 3307 drivers. (didnt work either unless this device failed and everything went to 640*480)
PSU: Antec True Power 480watts

charlie: I am using WinXP SP1

j2me_tech: yes its prommie cooled :)

macci: AGP/PCI is set to 66/33 what is a stable option?

Stepping Info etc: (this is what CPU-Z tells me)

Cpu Name: Intel Pentium 4 (Northwood)
Specification: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
Family / Model / Stepping: F 2 9
Extended Family / Model: 0 0
Brand ID: 9
Package: mPGA-478
Core Stepping: D1
Technology: 0.13µ
Supported Instructions Sets: MMX, SSE, SSE2
07-12-2003, 04:51 AM
Creative

Nice one

But can u read the FPO/BATCH from the box pls?

Cheers
:)
07-12-2003, 05:04 AM
r00t3d

I forgot about that :)

MM#: 852314
FPO#: L311A878
Version #: C30333-002
Packdate: 05/12/03
07-12-2003, 05:10 AM
Creative

Thanks for that r00t3d :)

So its a Malaysia Week 11 huh.....very very very nice cpu :toast:

Wonder if my Costa Rica Week 20 will do anything like this :D
heheheh
07-12-2003, 06:07 AM
r00t3d

Tried pumping the AGP to 75MHz, still no luck.

Heres something interesting though.

I deleted the Radeon 9800 Pro, from the device manager, when the system restarted, it was all ok, but obviously in a low rez, system booted up, then.... XP found new hardware VGA Controller, and then booooom.... the system went balls up again...

Should I try removing the ATi drivers first and then removing the Radeon 9800 Pro from the device manager? and see if windows will use its own defaults?

Gimme some clues, someone must have bumped into this :)
07-12-2003, 06:30 AM
Morkai

I had a same problem and AGP trick worked very well. I boot to Windows 300MHz and raise AGP frequency to 72Mhz and FSB to 309MHz.
07-12-2003, 06:49 AM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally posted by r00t3d
I forgot about that :)

MM#: 852314
FPO#: L311A878
Version #: C30333-002
Packdate: 05/12/03

interesting my 2.4C is close to yours

SL6WF | Costa Rica | 3312A396 | 05/12/2003

about a week difference
07-12-2003, 12:37 PM
r00t3d

Quote:

Originally posted by eva2000
interesting my 2.4C is close to yours

SL6WF | Costa Rica | 3312A396 | 05/12/2003

about a week difference

Yours is Cost Rica, the one I have is Malaysian, big difference as a lot of people will tell you.
07-12-2003, 01:49 PM
bcn

they say costa rica is also good... - who knows...
I have the first one from costa - always was gettin' malaysian ones.
I have 3318A264-1028 pack date 06/06/03
and it does 3GHz on air at 33C+ ambient temp and 1.6V - not really something outstanding. :)
07-12-2003, 03:45 PM
texuspete00

Holy smokes thats sweet at dflt volts :slobber:

Slow but booting and working has always been nb for me. If I OC my cpu too high, system crashes. When I'm testing a fsb increase, video openings to cames and such will run all slow. I"m an AMD guy so who knows. That also means that with multi adjustments, I was always able to narrow it down to this when this garbage happens to me. Well you know with more volts you should have more MHz room so if upping the voltage does not help your situation, you'd figure all finger point to mem/nb.
07-12-2003, 04:15 PM
althes

That is a sweet oc. Hope you get the 9800 working.
07-12-2003, 09:30 PM
Creative

Also when u say Default voltage, do you mean its at the setting of 'Default' in the bios?

Or you have put at a higher volt in bios so that when it undervolts it hits 1.525?

Cos when I say default volts, I mean the top option, and thus the real vcore is actually about 1.44vcore load :eek:
hehehehehe
07-13-2003, 01:51 AM
r00t3d

In the bios I can go upto 1.6 volts, the CPU is set @ 1.525 which is the default setting +/- 0, increments of 0.025, that reminds me, I can also lower the voltage. :banana:

Here is some more news, I put a dual boot onto my system yesterday, Windows 2000 SP3, where I wasnt stable above 300, in XP, I am now stable @ 309 in 2000.

I know where my problem lies, its the cooling for the NB and GPU once this is fixed (very soon) I am going to UNLEASH the power of this 2.4c.

Does anyone know what the highest o/c has been on a 2.4c? is it macci @ 3.864 ?
07-13-2003, 02:01 AM
macci

Its a bit more than 3864MHz ;)

MAX WCPUID (Vcore 1.65):
http://www.solidhardware.com/macci/24C/362_43_id.gif

MAX SuperPi 1M (Vcore 1.65):
4220MHz

MAX SuperPi 8M (Vcore 1.65):
4188MHz

All limited by motherboard (Albatron PX865PE Pro with supercooled NB)
07-13-2003, 02:19 AM
Creative

ohhhhh so thats our goal is it macci :D
hehehehe

Ok Im 100% (prime/3dmark seti etc) stable now at 270fsb at default vcore (1.44) and are now at 280fsb.

I can loop 3dmark for ~30 mins at efault vcore (1.44) but had to bump her up to 1.60 in the bios from the 1.525 setting and this now gives me 1.52load.

She has been stable for ~25 mins so far in prime :)

These 2.4 are little rippers imo!!!! :toast:
07-13-2003, 03:07 AM
r00t3d

Quote:

Originally posted by macci
Its a bit more than 3864MHz ;)

MAX WCPUID (Vcore 1.65):
http://www.solidhardware.com/macci/24C/362_43_id.gif

MAX SuperPi 1M (Vcore 1.65):
4220MHz

MAX SuperPi 8M (Vcore 1.65):
4188MHz

All limited by motherboard (Albatron PX865PE Pro with supercooled NB)

Nice :rocker:

Well then, looks like I got some way to go yet :)
By the way what o/s are you using?
If Radeon what drivers?

What kinda speeds were you getting @ vcore 1.6?

I could ask you questions alllllllllll day
07-13-2003, 03:45 AM
macci

WinXP with any Radeon9800 driver, above 300FSB I just need to up the AGP to like 72 or 75MHz with SefFSB. So I basically boot up to 300FSB, adjust the AGP and then increase the FSB above 300.

1.6V got me up to 3.8G aircooled and 1.55V gave around 4170MHz R404 cooled.
07-13-2003, 04:51 AM
Tedinde

Mine acts the same, if i go over 315fsb, it will boot into windows but every thing is slow.
07-13-2003, 04:59 AM
r00t3d

Quote:

Originally posted by macci
WinXP with any Radeon9800 driver, above 300FSB I just need to up the AGP to like 72 or 75MHz with SefFSB. So I basically boot up to 300FSB, adjust the AGP and then increase the FSB above 300.

1.6V got me up to 3.8G aircooled and 1.55V gave around 4170MHz R404 cooled.

hmmmm, som1 mentioned the same thing to me earlier, about SetFSB, call me a noob but wtf is that?

by the way i go into 3.9ghz got screenies 2 come. :banana:
07-13-2003, 05:14 AM
r00t3d

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07-13-2003, 05:28 AM
r00t3d

my next adventure is to get cooling for the GPU and NB, watercooling comes to mind, good/bad idea or do I need a vapochill?
07-13-2003, 06:08 AM
Creative

Hey nice one dood :)

I have my 2.4 now stable at 280fsb @ 1.52vcore and now working on 290. I tried the same vcore as what passed 280 but nup, pc rebooted so now Im at 1.55 and it can 3dmark loop but it cant prime.....so up we go to 1.57 :p

I wanna feel what you are feeling having 2.4C above 2.6ghz guys!!! :banana:
07-13-2003, 06:09 AM
macci

Very nice FSB there! :)

Seems that the Epox board can reach some impressive Busspeeds. Can you run a SiSoft Sandra membench at max FSB? Would be interesting to see how it performs at such FSB.
07-13-2003, 06:11 AM
Creative

In the other 2.4C thread gabbax has a IS7 at ~315 or something :eek: :)

I still havnt seen the Epox boards available here in Aussieland yet though :(
07-13-2003, 06:18 AM
macci

My P4P800 does around 317 stock cooled..but wont go higher than 327ish no matter what I do (it does 327 with 5:4 divider thou ;)). P4C800 on the other hand does only 309 stock but 330-333 supercooled.
07-13-2003, 06:22 AM
macci

abo's SetFSB can be downloaded from this page (the P4C800 version will work with your mobo too)

You also need to download GIVEIO.SYS file and copy it to the setfsb folder. This file can also be found from the above page.
07-13-2003, 06:57 AM
r00t3d

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macci: thanks for that setfsb :)

and now for the si results *drumroll* please:
07-13-2003, 06:58 AM
r00t3d

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07-13-2003, 07:09 AM
macci

Very nice :toast:
Man I wish my boards would do that kind of FSB stock cooled :) (the albatron would do but its too damn slow)
07-13-2003, 07:56 AM
jdmcnudgent

looks very nice.:banana:
07-13-2003, 08:26 AM
Creative

Damn 320+ on any board even with non default cooling is insane!!!! Well done :toast:

I managed to get mine stable 290fsb @ 1.62vcore now also :banana: and now Im testing 300fsb @ 1.68vcore. It passes 3dmark loops but fails prime after a few tests....more volts ;) But tomorrow cos Im off to bed :)
07-13-2003, 02:22 PM
crotale

I can't get SetFSB to work... What do you do to get it to work?
I have giveio.sys and the program seems to work, but checking with CPUz, nothing is done with the FSB... ???
07-13-2003, 02:47 PM
Boogotop

now i can make 313fsb with this stupid MSI Neo2 865PE
stock cooling on NB

http://sites.rapidus.net/maxbleau/4068mhz.JPG
07-16-2003, 04:27 AM
r00t3d

I fixed my problems with Windows, by using Win2k, all is stable @ 3.9GHz :)
07-16-2003, 02:11 PM
macci

What kind of 3DMark numbers are you getting with that rig?
07-16-2003, 03:09 PM
r00t3d

macci:

I am waiting for my NB and GPU cooling before I attempt anything, I am guessing I should be able to hit 22-24k with the setup.

I can get 21378 @ 3.6GHz and GPU @ 460/375 Mem @ 400MHz

Now I am @ 3.9GHz and GPU should get to 500/410 or something, saying that with the NB being pelt cooled I should be able to hit more FSB out of this board, so I can keep getting closer to your 4.3GHz :)

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