Issues with NForce 550 Chipset.

Hello :) Cause of change of email i lost my account details, and no way to reset it since my email did'nt exist nomore.

I have an issue with the Gigabyte GA-M55S-S3, it's equipped with a Nforce 550 chipset, which does'nt want togo any higher then 29x FSB (anything above 300 = no post at all).

My specs are:

2x1GB Corsair PC6400 cl4-4-4-12, at normal settings,
AMD Athlon X2 3800+ 65watts AM2 (watercooled, stressed at less then 40 degrees), a little voltage increase.
X1950Pro PCI-E watercooled also and 2 HD's.

My problem is is that the FSB does'nt want to reach up to 300MHz, even if i lower the HTT multiplier, the CPU multiplier, or memory devider. It all does'nt matter, some say i have the 'HTT Wall' bug or simular, which does'nt want me to reach certain speeds. I expected alot more from the NForce 550 chipset, considering the Bios allows me to increment in 1MHz steps up to 500MHz. I've increased various voltages, changed timings and so on, check for a bios update, but nothing really works.

I can get the CPU stable at 2900MHz (2GHz from origin), and it all passes the Orthos and Memtest 'tests. I'm pretty sure the CPU can be pushed harder, esp with watercooling, but its looking like my motherboard does'nt allow me. I've also heard there needs to be a hardmod in order to remove the HTT wall bug, is this true? And what exactly is this?

I've tried to look up reviews of the same motherboard, but not many actually pulled out 290MHz FSB.

http://tweakers.net/ext/f/cd448e9b9d...9902d/full.jpg

Sounds like a problem with your board rather than the Nforce550 chipset imho. Myself and other have been able to get well past 300 with NF550 based boards.

What memory divider are you running.

The default devider would be DDR2 667, if i put it on DDR2 533 i still have plenty of room to push up the FSB. If i put it up to DDR2 400, that would be 200MHz memory-clock leaving more then enough bandwith to push the FSB up again. lets say 300MHz FSB would still result in 300MHz memory, which supposed to run fine at 337 at 4-4-4-12 timings. I putted the timings higher, CL5 and so on, increased the voltage here and there, but it's just not doing at 300MHz.

Like i said its not the CPU, the MP was turned at 9, the memory is turned down also, and the HTT Multiplier at 3x, that would make 900MHz which is still under the 1000MHz rule. The PCI-e / PCI bus is locked at 100/33MHz, and it stays that way.

Is there a utility to read out the current bios values? Like if there a lock at the FSB shoud'nt I be able to read it out if it's programmed somewhere? I see people making sick bios adjustments, or even 300MHz by a modified bios on NForce3 chipsets for example...

I have contacted Gigabyte already, but i'm awaiting their reply and i'm pretty sure they cannot answer my question.

http://tweakers.net/ext/f/6113c92bcc...de874/full.jpg

http://tweakers.net/ext/f/b5ba7ed76f...2815d/full.jpg

http://tweakers.net/ext/f/cdb6975f65...50fc7/full.jpg

^^ some pics added.

Normally when you hit an FSB wall like that theres some sort of wierd memory setting or timing thats holding you back. Have you tried setting your Max Async Latency to 10 or so?

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Originally Posted by funnyperson1

Normally when you hit an FSB wall like that theres some sort of wierd memory setting or timing thats holding you back. Have you tried setting your Max Async Latency to 10 or so?

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I'm not sure what latency you are talking about? I do know what you mean, but what settings exactly?

I've setted the machine on SPD, rebooted, and configured it manually. Shoved everything a notch up, so i'm sure i have some space with my memory, but this is a weird matter :confused:

It seems like your bios doesn't have a setting to allow changing Max Async Latency. I would use Memset to manually set the MAL in Windows and then use Clockgen to see if you still have issues going above 290.

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Originally Posted by funnyperson1

It seems like your bios doesn't have a setting to allow changing Max Async Latency. I would use Memset to manually set the MAL in Windows and then use Clockgen to see if you still have issues going above 290.

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Nice tip. However i tested it out, went in the bios, increased voltages here and there to make sure there's enough room for it, in XP i applied the MAL towards 14, and went step by step up to 296 where it locked itself. This also happend when i put this into the bios. All that happens is you hear 2 ticks, meanin the motherboard went to default settings (but did not lose values i entered in bios).

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Set your 1T/2T Command Timing to 2T.

290 is about the hardware limit for the 1T timing there. Going to 2T should allow you a fair bit of extra headroom.

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Originally Posted by g3monster

Set your 1T/2T Command Timing to 2T.

290 is about the hardware limit for the 1T timing there. Going to 2T should allow you a fair bit of extra headroom.

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Thanks. I'll give it a try. Btw. Gigabyte responded to my question, they sended me a new Bios with some new options in the bios:
http://tweakers.net/ext/f/127c557fb8...19923/full.jpg

Does anyone know where those 'TRFC' things stand for and what they do? Props for such a fast respond with a new bios :)

Thats pretty cool of them, I must say. I think people have had the best luck with Trfcs set to 195ns, they're just some obscure memory timing, not sure exactly what it means.

Yeah well so far i can imagine it would be the Dimm-slot timing or simular, has nothing really todo with the memory itself. I think more at the speed the controller is communicating with the memory. However i've tried a few things, but have'nt had any luck yet.

The problem is is that there are not many reviews exactly pinpointing over 300MHz with this motherboard. I'm still wondering why or what is causing this why it's not booting while it's set on 300MHz fsb with properiate memory timings and decent CPU clockspeed settings. I'm also not sure how high i have to increase my chipset voltage, damn i don't even have a clue what type of voltage i exactly need to increase lol.

HTT limits are different from mobo to mobo. I have 2 of Gigabytes 690g SH3 mobos and ones max stable HTT is 420HTT and the other is 380HTT stable. Each mobs has tolerances and some are better then others.

But that means i have to put the HTT multiplier towards 1 or 2x?

I thought there was a 'golden rule' to not overreach the 1000MHz HTT-speed. This is weird. The board does'nt give problems even if over 1200+MHz.

I have the same board, can you send me that bios please mine gets stuck at around 280 fsb

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Originally Posted by Kenetixx

I have the same board, can you send me that bios please mine gets stuck at around 280 fsb

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http://sk4life.net/m55ss32.rar , right click save as. Tell me what you reached after this bios.

The HT speed is different from the HTT speed that we are talking about, the HTT multiplier controls the HT speed which should be kept around 1000.

The HTT SW is talking about is the actual bus speed that you are changing.

Also ram needs to be at 2T for high bus speeds.

That bios isnt a bios file ???
Its a .fe file ?

I just flashed mine with it Kenetixx.. I was worried about the .fe too, but it's safe ;)

Didn't help the OCing on my board though :| , THanks very much for hosting it though lismo.. it may take some tinkering to make it worth while.. did they say what exactly to try with the new BIOS?

No problem :)

Nah they did'nt say anything but 'you can try it with this bios 'insert link''. I replied that it does'nt make much difference but have'nt had any response.

@Funnyperson1, i've tried that. It's just that i did'nt show a picture of the settings that i tried (are pretty much alot). But what i did was, i went into the bios, setted the FSB at 296MHz, and saved / rebooted. Everytime the system does not work with those settings it automaticly 'resets' at normal settings while keeping the things i saved in the bios.. it's only a matter of changing one thing again .. step by step..

Did not work :| And i see more users are having trouble reaching 296MHz....

I picked up this motherboard last night (m55s-s3 REV 2.0).

It came with the FC bios installed. I had it stable upto 360HTT with my brisbane 3600+ (@ 5x multiplier) so the board is definately capable of more than your getting from it.

what's the bios on that biostar?

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Originally Posted by g3monster

I picked up this motherboard last night (m55s-s3 REV 2.0).

It came with the FC bios installed. I had it stable upto 360HTT with my brisbane 3600+ (@ 5x multiplier) so the board is definately capable of more than your getting from it.

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Yeah that chipset does'nt look like it's not willing to reach over 300MHz... I rather suspect something withing the board itself, or like it was said, a htt wall.

I woud'nt flash an biostar bios on a gigabyte board lol...

Well flashed to that bios and now its worse????
Cant get over 270 fsb now dammit

Incidently, mine's a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: over 230-240 letalone 290-300.

Wild inconsistencies between actual boards? I've tried both F3 windsor, and brisbane.

Are all you guys rev 2.0 like g3monster?

I can't belive you got 360, G3.. where did you try first? I must say I haven't checked for holes about 280

I have the 2.0 revision board. No luck with getting harder.

@Kenetixx, maybe the bios picked up default values again and selected too agressive timings for your memory. rather check that out.

tried all settings and still no go relaxed evrything and still :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed. ah well good excuse to get a new board.

:) Thats something i considered too.. Get a kickass Asus SLI motherboard for AM2 with a chipset that at least wants to go faster then 290MHz....

This is just bad :(

The Gigabyte MA69G S3H I a good mobo if you want a good overclocker. Many people that have this mobo have been able to get 350HTT or up with it.

Its a small thread but theres good info in it.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=156881

The 590chipset looks pretty sexy, but it comes with Sli from which i'm not planning to get a Nvidia set. I'm more Ati fan , lol. It would be kinda waste of money to get a SLI setup, without planning to use it.

Anyway is there a motherboard that really does up to 400MHz HTT guaranteed? Like if i put there 2 rammodules of the fastest speed there is (at a logic price lol) am i able to get something of fastly?

I can imagine that a dualcore CPU loves the bandwith, with benchmarks i pretty go up high from 2 to 2.7 GHz, pretty much of a big difference. If i can reach 3.2GHz atleast imma have an equelevant 6000+ lol without spending cash into the CPU. Imo is a CPU cheaper to replace then a complete motherboard, when it dies from overclocking.

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Originally Posted by lismo

The 590chipset looks pretty sexy, but it comes with Sli from which i'm not planning to get a Nvidia set. I'm more Ati fan , lol. It would be kinda waste of money to get a SLI setup, without planning to use it.

Anyway is there a motherboard that really does up to 400MHz HTT guaranteed? Like if i put there 2 rammodules of the fastest speed there is (at a logic price lol) am i able to get something of fastly?

I can imagine that a dualcore CPU loves the bandwith, with benchmarks i pretty go up high from 2 to 2.7 GHz, pretty much of a big difference. If i can reach 3.2GHz atleast imma have an equelevant 6000+ lol without spending cash into the CPU. Imo is a CPU cheaper to replace then a complete motherboard, when it dies from overclocking.

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To be honest there is not AM2 mobo that will guarantee 400HTT out there. The one I pointed to is close and some will and some won't.

Too bad... Not really looking to invest 150€ for a decent motherboard. Most of the features a motherboard carries i don't even need. This gigabyte is on that point pretty much perfect, too bad for the 290HTT and not anymore higher.

I am running the FC BIOS and can run stabily at 380MHZ HTT (clockgen could take me to 420 before the system crashed) I found that above 280 there was a hole if the 3x HTT multiplier was used. If however I used the 2X multiplier with relaxed RAM timings 340+MHZ opened up. I also found that changing the "PCI Latency Timer (CLK)" setting from the default of 32 to 64 gained me an extra 10 MHZ HTT. I had to use the 400mhz divider as the 533 divider or higher would not allow my system to boot at higher than 320 which is strage given that my RAM would have been running @ around stock on the 533 multiplier @ 320.


Here is my CPU-Z validation for my mobo at 380 MHZ HTT

CPU-Z Validation @ 380MHZ HTT

30 Minutes Orthos stable at 380MHZ HTT (would have gone further but I ran out of time)

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/6...0httad1.th.jpg

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I found that above 280 there was a hole if the 3x HTT multiplier was used.

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What you say might be correct for your board, but i've tried every possible setting related to the HTT multiplier. Can you tell me what type of memory you are using? Corsair? It might be that the memory is'nt compatible for some reason... I always increase or lower the PCI Latency towards 32 or 64, but however this defenitly looks positive for me to check wether again to get it on 300+MHz....

if you are using the FC one, that was my previous, and now i'm using the one with the extended memory timings like i posted on the first page. I will check it out ;)

Do you have a fan on your Chipset???

Mine was running at close to 70C and limiting me to about 270 before I put a fan on it.

My RAM is pretty crappy. It is Elixir brand (basically unbranded) but capable of 1066mhz BUT only if I decrease the timings to 6-6-6-22 and it they do not respond to voltage very well either so I wouldnt think it would be your ram. What REV mobo are you running?

That is a point, G3.. the cooler is so inadequte it's not funny ;)

I gotta say I haven't tried one myself, I guess the 230 wall kind of put me off bothering to waste my time but i'm determined now we have a success story from G3

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Originally Posted by mAJORD

That is a point, G3.. the cooler is so inadequte it's not funny ;)

I gotta say I haven't tried one myself, I guess the 230 wall kind of put me off bothering to waste my time but i'm determined now we have a success story from G3

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When there was no fan on my chipset I was running 270HTT with random lockups with NO extra volts but when I put the fan onto the chipset I could run at upto 420HTT at a temp of around 43-47C (depends on room temp) with .375V passing through the chipset and havent had a problem since.

Also noted that when I push 1.55V through my CPU when underload the mobo overvolts the CPU by .15V!!!! giving me a total of 1.7V (through a brisbane @3.3GHZ)so when your overclocking you have to take into account for an almost 10% overvoltage factor at load and about a 3% overvoltage factor at idle.

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Originally Posted by g3monster

Do you have a fan on your Chipset???

Mine was running at close to 70C and limiting me to about 270 before I put a fan on it.

My RAM is pretty crappy. It is Elixir brand (basically unbranded) but capable of 1066mhz BUT only if I decrease the timings to 6-6-6-22 and it they do not respond to voltage very well either so I wouldnt think it would be your ram. What REV mobo are you running?

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Yeah that plain heatsink supplied by Gigabyte is indeed crappy. I replaced the glue or whatever it was, with artic silver. I noticed that once you removed the cooler it does'nt really 'fit' strong. Like you can move the heatsink with your finger without doing much effort. It kinda concerns me, and yeah alot of people with these boards have heating problems, However at Cold boot it shoud'nt be the problem to be honest.

Review my case again in the startpost. I got so much decent airflow it should be just more then enough. To be safe i still installed a Stock-AMD fan at 5V and putted it infront of the chipset. My memory is a Matched pair of Corsair PC6400 at 4-4-4-12, which is pretty good. However i'm still considering to get PC8000 or simular, to at least get the 1:1 condition with the memory.

I'll try later, right now it's weekend and i got alot of partying todo :up:

My BIOS PICZ 4 THOSE OF U STUCK @ 290 OR LOWER HTT

Advanced Chipset Features:
http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/4...s001fe1.th.jpg

DRAM configuation:
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/404...s002ox7.th.jpg

MB Intelligent Tweaker:
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/3...s003kk8.th.jpg

Fuxk knows how you ppl are getting high HTT on these boards, mine wont go above 262 ay any multi and volts and of anything it is just stuck there.

Thanks for the pic's G3. I can't say i've tried chipset voltages as high as that :o perhaps that is the key, I'll chekc it out (with some better cooling!)

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Thanks for the pic's G3. I can't say i've tried chipset voltages as high as that :o perhaps that is the key, I'll chekc it out (with some better cooling!)

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I just maxxed the settings and booted. These settings got me to 420MHZ HTT Orthos so u may not need as much voltage for under 380MHZ.

I just sat a small AMD socket A fan on the NB and had it blowing on it, didnt even replace the default thermal crap.

In my opinion u don't really need any extra volts on the CPU-HT link Voltage until about 320+ MHZ however as u guys are having a hardtime with Settings above ~260MHZ I would just put a fan on and boost all voltages to +.375.

Also had any1 else noticed how much this board overvolts @ load?

Hello all :),

I also have a Gigabyte MBO with a nvidia chipset (6100/430 with IGP) - M55Plus-S3G (rev1.2) with F11 BIOS. I wrote about the same problem with my board, that I can't go over ~280Mhz in BIOS (282Mhz with GoodRAM memory is the max. that I got the board to POST).

I found that the max. bootable FSB depends much on the memory used and the memory divider used. Something with the IMC is wrong, my guess is the BIOS. Cause I got over 300Mhz easily with clockgen. If I remember correct, I went to 345Mhz without a problem in Windows with Clockgen and ran some stability tests without a problem (will try to find some screenies).

But now I'll try with g3monster's settings, HT multy 2x and PCI timer to 64.

I hope that we will find a solution to this :)

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I wrote about my problem here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=148122

420HTT.. far out G3, really curious to fire it up and try this now.

For those of u with REV 1 versions of this board I would be interested in seeing some pix of the board layout if possible.

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Originally Posted by lismo

Thanks. I'll give it a try. Btw. Gigabyte responded to my question, they sended me a new Bios with some new options in the bios:
http://tweakers.net/ext/f/127c557fb8...19923/full.jpg

Does anyone know where those 'TRFC' things stand for and what they do? Props for such a fast respond with a new bios :)

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Im curiouse but wouldnt TIMING @ 1T be a problem with that high of a FSB,i would suspect it to create more stress for the X2memory controler /Heat on the mobo .. @ 300fsb i hope you making shure that eggs dont burn on the 550 heatsink :rofl: It needs to be kept nice and cool... :shocked: they are know to fizzle/cook skin on fingers and have even shut down a pc i built a lil while back for a friend ....Since he has added a waterblock to the 550 it ran around 280-300fsb 78c under load..With out the watercooling it was Extremely hot like/ 128c under load for like prime and sp runs! You could smell the heatsink paste:yepp:


I "used too use gigabyte", thier not bad but they shure dont run cool unless you have water on the 550..,Recomend Tforce550 =more stability for this class of mobo hands down.....

Besides that ,@300 and 1T it just may not like that combo ,I would try it with 2T and maybe ease the timming or set TRC 22 or higher untill you excede your goal of 300FSB, Im just going by your screenshot:D

Note: Trfc is the slot timing for memory .... 105,75,105,75 works pretty good depending on mobo and clock speed....For the most part i leave them on auto unless its last resort...

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Originally Posted by gOtVoltage

Im curiouse but wouldnt TIMING @ 1T be a problem with that high of a FSB,i would suspect it to create more stress for the X2memory controler /Heat on the mobo .. @ 300fsb i hope you making shure that eggs dont burn on the 550 heatsink :rofl: It needs to be kept nice and cool... :shocked: they are know to fizzle/cook skin on fingers and have even shut down a pc i built a lil while back for a friend ....Since he has added a waterblock to the 550 it ran around 280-300fsb 78c under load..With out the watercooling it was Extremely hot like/ 128c under load for like prime and sp runs! You could smell the heatsink paste:yepp:


I "used too use gigabyte", thier not bad but they shure dont run cool unless you have water on the 550..,Recomend Tforce550 =more stability for this class of mobo hands down.....

Besides that ,@300 and 1T it just may not like that combo ,I would try it with 2T and maybe ease the timming or set TRC 22 or higher untill you excede your goal of 300FSB, Im just going by your screenshot:D

Note: Trfc is the slot timing for memory .... 105,75,105,75 works pretty good depending on mobo and clock speed....For the most part i leave them on auto unless its last resort...

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There is no way his chipset was running at 128C unless it was run without a heatsink. My TForce550 has a chipset temp of 26-28C as far as I can tell, and thats with a tiny actively cooled sink. However, Temp1 in Speedfan reads 127C all the time, and I can assure you thats an unused input to the temperature monitoring chip on the board (which is probably also the case on your friends board).

It ran 128c and the HEATSINK FELL OFF FROM HEAT AND WAS RMA'D..Piece of crap was recalled from Fry's 1 month late and it was revisoin 2

Note i also have a MSI K9n-neo with the Platinum bios with 550 chipset runs 280fsb@68cmax On air and its worse than the Gigabyte for Volts and Overclocking..

Notice how i recomended a Tforce or are you not reading the whole tread!Heat sensor was tapped to the heatsink using a MULTIMATE Digatal Dvom!when a Card is covering the heatsink there is no where for heat to go..Plus thier heatsink would work better if it were shorter and no adding to pulling the push pins out!!!!

Also the push pins were not properly seated from the factoctory and pulled out of mobo from the Heat generated that warped the heasink of 550chipset....(Circled in red) the plastic push pins and also the 4pin molex has to be used for stability reasons !

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...ga-m55s-s3.jpg

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It ran 128c and the HEATSINK FELL OFF FROM HEAT AND WAS RMA'D..Piece of crap was recalled from Fry's 1 month late and it was revisoin 2

Note i also have a MSI K9n-neo with the Platinum bios with 550 chipset runs 280fsb@68cmax On air and its worse than the Gigabyte for Volts and Overclocking..

Notice how i recomended a Tforce or are you not reading the whole tread!

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Ah if the heatsink wasn't attached properly then that would do it. I just had a hard time believing it because the TForce heatsink doesn't seem that much better, I mean it has a fan, but its attached to a small piece of ribbed aluminum.

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Ah if the heatsink wasn't attached properly then that would do it. I just had a hard time believing it because the TForce heatsink doesn't seem that much better, I mean it has a fan, but its attached to a small piece of ribbed aluminum.

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I wasnt saying you were wrong or trying to stir up no good ...Props:up: Well who ever clocks these things ....

GByte shoulda used a fan and smaller heatsink,Less can be better in this case .....

Anytime i can help i will....sometimes i could post my replies better ,Im still not fully awake from late night excursion,although its now Sunday afternoon:rofl:

I'm a fan of the tall passive NB heatsinks myself (of course I run air cooling and have plenty of airflow), these small fans tend to die sooner or later.

Thanks for the further explanation of the problem, perhaps it will help someone with that GB board to check their pushpins.

If I had that board I would probably screw a 50mm fan to the hs, looks to be pretty straightforward.

I placed an AMD Stock fan at 5V aimed at the chipset. That it's wrapped on the motherboard with 2 plastic things was already known. When i move it i can move it easily without any trouble, which is a bad case. I've installed the Molex-connector on the motherboard ofcourse.

Is there anyone that archieved higher FSB's using a 0.375Voltage increase? So passed over 300MHz using that high voltage?

I might spend some money on 400MHz Modules (DDR 2 800) so i just archieve extra performance by the newer kitt... Anyone using different on these boards then Corsair? So far it works just fine.

I might consider a waterblock for my North/Southbridge chipset, since everything except that is watercooled :P

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I placed an AMD Stock fan at 5V aimed at the chipset. That it's wrapped on the motherboard with 2 plastic things was already known. When i move it i can move it easily without any trouble, which is a bad case. I've installed the Molex-connector on the motherboard ofcourse.

Is there anyone that archieved higher FSB's using a 0.375Voltage increase? So passed over 300MHz using that high voltage?

I might spend some money on 400MHz Modules (DDR 2 800) so i just archieve extra performance by the newer kitt... Anyone using different on these boards then Corsair? So far it works just fine.

I might consider a waterblock for my North/Southbridge chipset, since everything except that is watercooled :P

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Have you tried the CPU to NB voltages @1.30 and 1.32v? Somtimes it only takes a lil extra volts to make stable or even destabalize a system ...if you are playing around with the CPUtoNB voltage raise is only one step at a time and maybe try running thru your Ht settings .

Example try 2x 3x 4x 5x ,or some boards read the HT as,100 200 300 400 500, usualy a lower Ht will keep the system more stable and allow for higher FSB....Some boards like High HT where others may work best with lower HT settings... Take your time and always adjust one setting at a time.....I always write down what works and what dosnt .. this will help elimanate settings one at a time:up:

Note: before i start anything i make shure the CPU and Northbridge are with in my temp range...Hope this helps

yeah i increased here and there the voltages but doing 0.3v won't solve my issue i guess. So far only 1 guy posted his HTT over 300MHz in here but without the same motherboard. So it's very questionable if this is the issue on the motherboard or not.

The handy function of this board when a oc fails, it will use default settings but it keeps the setting you've entered in the bios, making it easy to go back in the bios and adjust things.

I'll try when i get back from work again. :)

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Originally Posted by gOtVoltage

Note i also have a MSI K9n-neo with the Platinum bios with 550 chipset runs 280fsb@68cmax On air and its worse than the Gigabyte for Volts and Overclocking..

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Hello,

I have mobo MSI K9N-Neo ver2.0(MS-7260) and I have no cpu voltage under bios. Is there any way to unlock cpu voltage settings on this mobo?

Well good news from gigabyte again!

They said they where going to test the issue with the board themself. See if they can across the 290HTT fsb issue! If they fix it , or know what the issue is, they are going to send me the bios!!

Awesome! Never had any more support like this from a motherboard manufactor!

kool good to here gigabyte is actually willing to do something about ur bunk board...Even if a bios update comes out I think ill be happy to just leave my current bios for known reasons :p

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Originally Posted by lcdc

Hello,

I have mobo MSI K9N-Neo ver2.0(MS-7260) and I have no cpu voltage under bios. Is there any way to unlock cpu voltage settings on this mobo?

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P.M me or start a new tread and will go over Installing a Platinum Bios 1.6 or 1.7 for The K9N-Neo-f that is 100% stable with all devices funtioning ,Including the USB's:up:

Ive been running the Platinum Bioses on K9n-Neo f for over 1year 100% stable and Overclocked...

It will enable Pci lock Control and Higher Vcore ,it allows too a run 5600+:yepp: It should work for 6000+ aswell, i havnt tried but i Know it works for the 89watt and lower X2's :up: 125watt 6000+ may be pushing ...Id test it but dont want to dismantle my 6000+ and put in my other machine to check ,its lotta work ..:yepp:

Note: Good to hear GIGABYTES on top of things!

Btw this is a question related towards the Gigabyte cooler / Northbridge:

Is this one any good?
http://www.coolermaster-europe.com/p...f7d247d804.jpg

Heatsink 40 x 40 x 13 mm
Fan dimensions 40 x 40 x 10 mm
RPM 5000 rpm
Airflow 8,5 m3/h
For Chipset

? Would it fit? It might be in conflict with my Videocard since a zalman northbridge heatsink woud'nt even fit too.... I might consider a waterblock that would not hit my Videocard considering that chipset is right under the PCI-E slot...

and 5000Rpm sounds like a lil troublemaker :P

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Originally Posted by lismo

Btw this is a question related towards the Gigabyte cooler / Northbridge:

Is this one any good?
http://www.coolermaster-europe.com/p...f7d247d804.jpg

Heatsink 40 x 40 x 13 mm
Fan dimensions 40 x 40 x 10 mm
RPM 5000 rpm
Airflow 8,5 m3/h
For Chipset

? Would it fit? It might be in conflict with my Videocard since a zalman northbridge heatsink woud'nt even fit too.... I might consider a waterblock that would not hit my Videocard considering that chipset is right under the PCI-E slot...

and 5000Rpm sounds like a lil troublemaker :P

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A swiftech waterblock for Nvidia chip set may work.. the brackets it comes with alow for various mounting options and i believe PTS has them ..
http://www.petrastechshop.com/swmcchco.html Check it out ,ive used it on my K9n neo which is simalar set up for PCi-E slot.

Yes. That's the post i was looking for ;)

however i'm not sure if they sell that item here in holland. It looks like it has the perfect dimensions without harming the PCI-E videocard.

I might hit my boss up and tell him to buy one for me ;)

I got another reply from Gigabyte again. They say they tested out the board and came without any problems at 300MHz HTT/FSB. So far it's looking like the only problem might be my memory, but its always underclocked so it shoud'nt give any problems.

Here's the email:

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Hello

Please, see the answer from our testing engineer regarding to this issue.

I’ve test this OC issue. According to screenshot attached, you can see it OC to the FSB 300 and without any problem at all.
My configuration:
M55S-S3 Rev 2.0 with FD/FE BIOS (attached)
AM2 3400+ CPU
2x 1G Kingston KHX6400D2ULK2/2G RAM
Hitachi N3508 82G SATA HDD
RX80L512DE PCI-E VGA card
Please regarding to to OC to FSB 340 on other brand of board.
Can you please provide use the BIOS settings and some screenshot if possible?
And also please are devices the same ?
Please try other Memory and try to OC the PC again.

Best Regards,

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http://tweakers.net/ext/f/fa645d4ef0...aa18e/full.jpg

^^ attached image from gigabyte. Anyone else has a clue regarding towards this? I might try a set of other brands memory...

I made an interesting discovery today. I purchased some Corsair CM2X1024-5400C4 and now my board is not stable above 250HTT no matter what voltage I give it or how relaxed my timings are but when I put my generics back in the board had no problems going to 340+ again. My guess is 100% ram related.

So what was the brand that you used without the corsair-set? This defenitly looks like some corsair issues with certain timings or speeds....

I had 2 samsung based IC chips and 2 elixir (nanya) IC chips so yes it looks like a corsair problem...I was going to try to flash the SPD module and see if that made a difference but don't have the time atm...

Flash the SPD module? What can't you flash these days lol

I'll try to seek another module from somewhere to test this out. I hope it really is the issue so i can trade back in that pos corsair :D

after 2 weeks of fiddleing I can get the board back to 300mhz FSB but nuthin ovr that with corsair crap but generics are fine. That figures get faster RAM but lose clock cycles. FCUKING MOBO!!!!

I know the RAm is good for 800 @3-4-4-9 @ 2.1V easy so it's nt the ram

To give this thread a final notice on how things went: It worked!

By replacing the Corsair kit i managed to get it seemless on 300MHz HTT without issues.

http://tweakers.net/ext/f/50781af6f6...f3fc1/full.jpg

I'm using 4x512MB 800MHz DDR2 / CL4-4-4-12 instead of the Corsair 2x1GB 4-4-4-12 kit.

I'm a happy tweaker now :)