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08-25-2007, 05:30 AM
boblemagnifique

News Gigabyte X38-DQ6

X38-DQ6

http://www.ixtremtek.com/ixtek/Hardw...B_forumjpg.jpg

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Here official characteristics of this X38 which will be available about semi September in your retailers in 2 versions: DDR2 and DDR3 (X38-DQ6 & X38T-DQ6)

For the price, it would seem to be in the prices of the current P35-DQ6 is between 210€ and 240€ including all taxes public price (Price French)

http://www.ixtremtek.com/ixtek/Hardw...gaX38spec1.jpg

http://www.ixtremtek.com/ixtek/Hardw...X38spec1-5.jpg

Others Pics : http://www.ixtremtek.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145
08-25-2007, 05:48 AM
3000MACHINES

Nice card ! If the performance are there, it could be a must have
08-25-2007, 05:57 AM
Poki

Interesting 1600fsb support? I can't wait to see the x38's tested.
08-25-2007, 06:04 AM
dinos22

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Originally Posted by Poki

Interesting 1600fsb support? I can't wait to see the x38's tested.

you won't have to wait very long ;) ;) :D

hopefully we can get some cracked SLI drivers as well for testing hey :D:D:D:D:D
08-25-2007, 06:06 AM
BeardyMan

hehe gigabyte tends to have some flashy boards it seems :)
price is a tad to high for me though :/
08-25-2007, 06:09 AM
koc

Only 2 PCI-EXPRESS X16 slots

and the PCI slot just under the VGA slot

:down: :down: :down: :down: :down: :down:
08-25-2007, 06:09 AM
LuckyNV

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeardyMan

hehe gigabyte tends to have some flashy boards it seems :)
price is a tad to high for me though :/

the DS4 should be a fair bit cheaper judging by the P965/P35 models

RAM slots are blocked if a long PCB card is used in the top slot, both PCI slots are blocked if a tall cooler is used in the bottom slot, but at least no more heatsink city and CPU socket is closer to the top.

Anyone have a better picture of the rear IO?

Not bad overall, a good indication of what a DS4 and DS3P might look like, I just can't wait for the day that Gigabyte uses a more sexy colour scheme, it just looks like something made out of spare parts

I was waiting for a Rev2.0 P35-DS4, but i think I will wait for an X38-DS4 instead, guaranteed no heatsink city and added flexibility of putting a GFX card at the bottom instead of top since I like rear mounted HR-03 instead.
08-25-2007, 06:14 AM
Baron

Look at that back I/O. :D

8 USB ports. :)
08-25-2007, 06:19 AM
[XC] Lead Head

I really hope those prices are just a direct conversion from one currency to another, 240 Euros would be almost $480 US Dollars...
08-25-2007, 06:20 AM
k|ngp|n

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Originally Posted by dinos22

you won't have to wait very long ;) ;) :D

hopefully we can get some cracked SLI drivers as well for testing hey :D:D:D:D:D

Now your talkin :)
08-25-2007, 06:22 AM
BeardyMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuckyNV

I just can't wait for the day that Gigabyte uses a more sexy colour scheme, it just looks like something made out of spare parts

Lol :D

anyways didn't knew sli bridges were that wide nowdays?:confused:

(if people managed to hack to sli that is)
08-25-2007, 06:25 AM
boblemagnifique

Quote:

Originally Posted by [XC] Lead Head

I really hope those prices are just a direct conversion from one currency to another, 240 Euros would be almost $480 US Dollars...

i don't think because : 240€ = 327$ US ;)

But I think that X38 will be sold less expensive in the USA (between 250$ and 300$) :)
08-25-2007, 06:26 AM
boblemagnifique

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

you won't have to wait very long ;) ;) :D

hopefully we can get some cracked SLI drivers as well for testing hey :D:D:D:D:D

Yes i Hope , i think have a sample for 1 or 2 week :)

Wait & see :)
08-25-2007, 06:28 AM
dinos22

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Originally Posted by k|ngp|n

Now your talkin :)

i'm merely expressing hope lol
08-25-2007, 06:36 AM
Jacky

Is this a legit gigabyte presentation? They can't even spell copper in "with all cooper Silent-Pipe", strange typo :D
fsb 1600 sounds really nice, I thought the first fsb 1600 cpus will be server and then there is going to be refresh like with conroe 1066-1333mhz fsb, is this still correct?
08-25-2007, 06:38 AM
largon

IMO, this is a waste of perfectly good motherboard components and silicon. And I'm talking about Gigabyte products in general. :p:

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Originally Posted by Baron

Look at that back I/O. :D

8 USB ports. :)

You mean 4x USB and 4x eSATA as per the slides in the 1st post? ;)
08-25-2007, 06:42 AM
Baron

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Originally Posted by largon

You mean 4x USB and 4x eSATA as per the slides in the 1st post? ;)

http://www.ixtremtek.com/ixtek/Hardw...X38spec1-5.jpg

Says 8 there.
08-25-2007, 07:04 AM
largon

2 Attachment(s)

I think I only see 4 USBs (under the Firewires) in the pic, those under the RJ45s look different, something like eSATAs would look like.

And one of the slides says:
7. Features SATA 3Gb/s with Quad eSATA 2 interface Don't see any eSATAs in there - except those in the I/O backpanel. Maybe some hardware-illiterate techie-wannabe from Gigabyte marketing dept. can't tell the difference between USB and eSATA?

I suspect Gigabyte's incompetence in making the slides is the explanation.

edit:
Here's another preview of X38-DQ6.
That's not the same board though. See the attachments.
08-25-2007, 07:16 AM
boblemagnifique

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Originally Posted by largon

I think I only see 4 USBs (under the Firewires) in the pic, those under the RJ45s look different, something like eSATAs would look like.

And one of the slides says:
7. Features SATA 3Gb/s with Quad eSATA 2 interface Don't see any eSATAs in there - except those in the I/O backpanel. Maybe some hardware-illiterate techie-wannabe from Gigabyte marketing dept. can't tell the difference between USB and eSATA?

I suspect Gigabyte's incompetence in making the slides is the explanation.

edit:
Here's another preview of X38-DQ6.
That's not the same board though. See the attachments.

The model of Hardwarezone is a old sample i think :) , there was change on the final version.

The infos come from Gigabyte France (kit media sent by Gigabyte Taiwan) for the retailers and the press :)
08-25-2007, 07:16 AM
Jamesrt2004

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Originally Posted by boblemagnifique

i don't think because : 240€ = 327$ US ;)

But I think that X38 will be sold less expensive in the USA (between 250$ and 300$) :)

prices are normally the same in europe as in USA asin €40 normallys is about $40/45

so nothing big :)
08-25-2007, 07:19 AM
NapalmV5

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Originally Posted by koc

Only 2 PCI-EXPRESS X16 slots

and the PCI slot just under the VGA slot

:down: :down: :down: :down: :down: :down:

only 2 decent pci-e ?

WTF is going on with mobo manuf..
08-25-2007, 07:24 AM
Frank M

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuckyNV

Not bad overall, a good indication of what a DS4 and DS3P might look like

X38-DS3P? Sounds too good to be true...
08-25-2007, 07:34 AM
OBR

Where are a super new X38 features? I am seeing only TWO x16 PCI Ex slots ... nothing more ... Specification is the same like P35 ...
08-25-2007, 07:46 AM
Frank M

Its two full x16 PCIe 2.0 slots, so its a bit different...
Also has ICH9R, supposedly better memory-handling and overclocking, more
eSata, etc. What else do you think it should have?
08-25-2007, 07:49 AM
LuckyNV

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank M

X38-DS3P? Sounds too good to be true...

well DS4/DS3P has always shared the same PCB as the DQ6, but with differences like lower phase power and no heatpipes on the DS3P

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBR

Where are a super new X38 features? I am seeing only TWO x16 PCI Ex slots ... nothing more ... Specification is the same like P35 ...

P35 has 2 full size slots @ 16x and 4x, or with bridge chip thing for dual 8x/8x

X38 is supposed to have 2 full size slots both at 16x/16x
08-25-2007, 08:10 AM
Frank M

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Originally Posted by LuckyNV

well DS4/DS3P has always shared the same PCB as the DQ6, but with differences like lower phase power and no heatpipes on the DS3P

But this is supposed to be the highend chipset.
There was a 650-DS4, but afaik there wasn't 650-DS3P, nor 680-DS3P.

As the X38 chips are supposedly just a bit more expensive, I hope it is true, but
at this point, it sounds like it's just speculation.
08-25-2007, 08:39 AM
[XC] gomeler

Somehow I feel disappointed. I guess I missed the memo that there really isn't any official SLI support on X38 so unless someone gets smart and cracks the drivers then we have to wait for another iteration of hot nvidia chipsets.
08-25-2007, 08:48 AM
Morais

the heatpipe solution looks very simmilar to the AMD 790 gigabyte chipset board
08-25-2007, 08:48 AM
Spawne32

Meh, i thought i was gona see somthing exciting here but i didnt. Same old gigabyte styling, poor layout :/
08-25-2007, 08:53 AM
BigRigDriver

Sexy Mobo:up:
08-25-2007, 08:53 AM
irev210

im still not sure what people where expecting to see.

I see the perfect balance between usable PCI-E and PCI. Since most people will be running with 1 dual slot GPU, generally that leaves 2 1x PCI-E and 2 PCI slots.

Even if you run Dual GPU, you still have one PCI slot and two PCI-E slots. Seems perfect.
08-25-2007, 09:10 AM
NapalmV5

perfect?? yeh pazvanti perfect
08-25-2007, 09:15 AM
Zytek_Fan

*sigh* No official SLI support....at least they retained CrossFire support.
08-25-2007, 09:26 AM
LuckyNV

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank M

But this is supposed to be the highend chipset.
There was a 650-DS4, but afaik there wasn't 650-DS3P, nor 680-DS3P.

As the X38 chips are supposedly just a bit more expensive, I hope it is true, but
at this point, it sounds like it's just speculation.

I'm just going by what I saw with Intel P965 and P35 chipsets, if you go to Gigabytes website there is a whole slew of models that seem to be a mirror image of each other (P965 and P35)

Nvidia chipsets feature about two... 680i-DQ6 and 650i-DS4
08-25-2007, 11:53 AM
zerazax

Looks pretty good. Now to see what ASUS and other companies have on hand.

The slot configuration isn't too bad for me although another PCIE slot would be good, as some companies have 3 and even 4 of them (at x16, x 16, x4, x4) since the board is capable of that.

Board *is* supposed to overclock like crazy though so hopefully all this durability stuff helps it
08-25-2007, 12:01 PM
Hornet331

hmm another board with 8 internal sata ports, just what i want. :)
08-25-2007, 07:22 PM
zerazax

Well just 2 more weeks hopefully and we can get some benches
08-25-2007, 07:40 PM
noobzed

no sli on this mobo cause no sli-chipset near the Sb...
08-25-2007, 07:52 PM
zerazax

SLI doesn't require that

All it requires is the driver with a codeline that enables X38 boards
08-25-2007, 08:56 PM
WRC

i wonder where is the extra molex (or whatever) connector for the pci-e 2.0 requirement, they need 300 watts for both of them :hm:
08-25-2007, 09:08 PM
afireinside

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank M

Its two full x16 PCIe 2.0 slots, so its a bit different...
Also has ICH9R, supposedly better memory-handling and overclocking, more
eSata, etc. What else do you think it should have?

ICH9R is just SB... which is on p35
08-25-2007, 09:30 PM
Dainas

Well, atleast the toned down the Silent pipe crap that plagued their P35 chipset. Tuniq installation? 1 hour please.
08-26-2007, 02:35 AM
LuckyNV

Quote:

Originally Posted by WRC

i wonder where is the extra molex (or whatever) connector for the pci-e 2.0 requirement, they need 300 watts for both of them :hm:

look near the RAM slots

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dainas

Well, atleast the toned down the Silent pipe crap that plagued their P35 chipset. Tuniq installation? 1 hour please.

The P35 rev2.0 boards have the same reduced size heatsinks :)
08-26-2007, 03:30 AM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by irev210

im still not sure what people where expecting to see.

I see the perfect balance between usable PCI-E and PCI. Since most people will be running with 1 dual slot GPU, generally that leaves 2 1x PCI-E and 2 PCI slots.

Even if you run Dual GPU, you still have one PCI slot and two PCI-E slots. Seems perfect.

i'm with you there

everything looks to be in the right place :)

'cept maybe for cmos clear location but that can be worked around with an old case switch :D
08-26-2007, 04:00 AM
oohms

This is funny, theres a predictable pattern here with new chipset/mobo releases:

First boards are gigabyte/msi and are usually pretty average
A few weeks later asus comes along and brings something a bit better
A bit later, abit comes along with their usually ok boards
At the same time all the crappy boards come out (foxconn, ecs, etc)
Then DFI comes out a month or more later

Also i heard somewhere that the X38 wasn't that much more expensive than the P35, so an X38-DS3P doesn't sound all that unlikely :D
08-26-2007, 04:32 AM
Solarfall

blah heat pipe cooling AGAIN.. i really dont like the ongoing trend atm.. everything was better in the NF4 days..
08-26-2007, 04:43 AM
Brother Esau

GAAAAWD that is one friggin ugly Motherboard:eek: Man.... GIGABYTE pull it together and stoop making these pastel pansy ass looking boards!
08-26-2007, 05:13 AM
LuckyNV

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solarfall

blah heat pipe cooling AGAIN.. i really dont like the ongoing trend atm.. everything was better in the NF4 days..

those heatpipes are rather conservative IMO, and many NF4 boards used active cooling, my own DFI cooler died within 10months, and it was loud too.
08-26-2007, 05:55 AM
Solarfall

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuckyNV

those heatpipes are rather conservative IMO, and many NF4 boards used active cooling, my own DFI cooler died within 10months, and it was loud too.

well being a dude thats loves to play around with extreme cooling, noise has never been a issue for me :D
08-26-2007, 06:11 AM
BeardyMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solarfall

well being a dude thats loves to play around with extreme cooling, noise has never been a issue for me :D

You think so?
Buy and dfi s dark with a squaling coil :D

it will be an issue for you :D
08-26-2007, 06:15 AM
Solarfall

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeardyMan

You think so?
Buy and dfi s dark with a squaling coil :D

it will be an issue for you :D

LOL my evga has that super annoying squaling coils thing so no need for Dfi s dark :D
08-26-2007, 06:18 AM
BeardyMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solarfall

LOL my evga has that super annoying squaling coils thing so no need for Dfi s dark :D

rofl lucky bastard :D
08-26-2007, 11:15 AM
Nosfer@tu

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

you won't have to wait very long ;) ;) :D

hopefully we can get some cracked SLI drivers as well for testing hey :D:D:D:D:D

I understan that they are encrypted with 128 bit.
But why not just throw them on a Supermicron with 2 Quards and break it.

http://www.octeamdenmark.com/forums/...read.php?t=504 AND Intel IS PISSED because of the no SLI support! :yepp:
Hope they squash them or do somthing bad :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by koc

Only 2 PCI-EXPRESS X16 slots

and the PCI slot just under the VGA slot

:down: :down: :down: :down: :down: :down:

No reason to buy SLI, dosent work.!
No reason to buy CF, Cant OC them in sli!

So just put 1 port on and lower prises!
08-26-2007, 12:05 PM
hecktic

so the only thing it doesnt have is DDR3... i wonder if they will make a ddr3 model of the same board.
08-26-2007, 12:57 PM
Baron

Quote:

Originally Posted by hecktic

so the only thing it doesnt have is DDR3... i wonder if they will make a ddr3 model of the same board.

There are DD2 and DDR3 flavours.

Check out the source link.
08-26-2007, 01:00 PM
dr-ali

Gigabyte X38-DQ6 when?
in september ?
retail price ?
08-26-2007, 01:28 PM
zerazax

Supposedly the P35-DQ6 is going to reach end of life already since the X38 DQ6 will be priced very similarly so that might be a good idea of where it will fall.
08-26-2007, 01:38 PM
irev210

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

i'm with you there

everything looks to be in the right place :)

'cept maybe for cmos clear location but that can be worked around with an old case switch :D

Gigabyte still lacks in a few places.

1) They need a LED on the board that indicates if power is on or off. I mean, even intel boards have this.

2) CMOS battery location is retarded, but it has improved

Overall, gigabyte has definitely improved the most as of late. Really pleased with the quality/performance of P35-DQ6. Directly put up against P5K Deluxe/Premium, they do one heck of a job running neck and neck.

Probably the most under rated board as of late.
08-26-2007, 02:33 PM
zerazax

Yep, even my brother's P35C-DS3R has been running pretty rock solid. Quality overall has improved from Gigabyte to the point they're pretty competitive with ASUS.

Now they just need to improve their feature-set a bit more.

My dream though is that Intel releases the DX38BT Bone Trail in DDR2 flavor since all I've seen so far is DDR3 flavor :(
08-26-2007, 03:12 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by irev210

Gigabyte still lacks in a few places.

1) They need a LED on the board that indicates if power is on or off. I mean, even intel boards have this.

2) CMOS battery location is retarded, but it has improved

Overall, gigabyte has definitely improved the most as of late. Really pleased with the quality/performance of P35-DQ6. Directly put up against P5K Deluxe/Premium, they do one heck of a job running neck and neck.

Probably the most under rated board as of late.

you are right about the LED
it was a bit unnerving waiting for the board to do the powerdown (takes a while) and powerup again...LED light would help >>> i was shocked how well it clocked CPUs but for results i have to wait a little before i'll post them until the magazine article gets published
08-26-2007, 03:15 PM
[XC] riptide

There was a review of the Gigabyte P35 vs the Asus Delux. Seems that as one overclocked the Asus and the Gigabyte, the Asus pulled away. Was put down to timings on the chipset in the gigabyte board. Also after ~1100 Ram, things get ropey for the Gigabyte.
08-26-2007, 03:51 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by [XC] riptide

There was a review of the Gigabyte P35 vs the Asus Delux. Seems that as one overclocked the Asus and the Gigabyte, the Asus pulled away. Was put down to timings on the chipset in the gigabyte board. Also after ~1100 Ram, things get ropey for the Gigabyte.

you got a link :)
08-26-2007, 03:58 PM
lowfat

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan

*sigh* No official SLI support....at least they retained CrossFire support.

I really don't see why everyone though X38 would support SLI, there was never a good solid statement saying that it would.
08-26-2007, 03:58 PM
Morais

No eSATA??? :mad: :slapass: :horse:
08-26-2007, 04:01 PM
lowfat

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerazax

Supposedly the P35-DQ6 is going to reach end of life already since the X38 DQ6 will be priced very similarly so that might be a good idea of where it will fall.

good thing I sold my P35-DQ6 today then :)
08-26-2007, 04:03 PM
lowfat

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morais

No eSATA??? :mad: :slapass: :horse:

The second picture shows it has 2, and if it is the same as the P35-DQ6, it comes with a 4 eSATA via that hook up to the internal sata ports and they go in PCI slots.
08-27-2007, 12:07 AM
.Logic

8 USB Ports! I love it!
08-27-2007, 12:35 AM
dinos22

this is a good shot i like this one
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3...969e133wf6.jpg
08-27-2007, 01:07 AM
Nosfer@tu

I likeout. I think it is just the mob getting CRAZY :D
08-27-2007, 01:19 AM
zerazax

Is it just my eyes or does that say DDR3 1066/1333 when those slots are DDR2...

Anyways, would it even be worth getting these first revision boards? I mean, what are the odds they come as stable as the P35 first revision boards were or should we expect more of a P965 style...
08-27-2007, 01:39 AM
afireinside

God why can't it come out already :( I need a new board
08-27-2007, 02:27 AM
STaRGaZeR

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerazax

Is it just my eyes or does that say DDR3 1066/1333 when those slots are DDR2...

Anyways, would it even be worth getting these first revision boards? I mean, what are the odds they come as stable as the P35 first revision boards were or should we expect more of a P965 style...

It says DDRII1, DDRII2..
08-27-2007, 04:36 AM
Gambit_2K

Quote:

Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR

It says DDRII1, DDRII2..

Look up, the big text between the slots says DDRIII 1066/1333
08-27-2007, 06:16 AM
LuckyNV

the pic with the green and pink slots is a DDR3 board, since it says GA-X38T, that T for Gigabyte boards = DDR3
08-27-2007, 10:45 AM
zerazax

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuckyNV

the pic with the green and pink slots is a DDR3 board, since it says GA-X38T, that T for Gigabyte boards = DDR3

I know but the physical slots themselves look like DDR2 to me as do the labels for each slot number
08-27-2007, 10:49 AM
LuckyNV

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerazax

I know but the physical slots themselves look like DDR2 to me as do the labels for each slot number

I was thinking the same, after looking up some DDR3 boards, the notches are much further to the left.

so in the picture we have a DDR3 model board, with a further DDR3 label, but the slots are labeled DDR2 and the slots themselves are DDR2 aswell :confused: :D
08-27-2007, 11:19 AM
Spawne32

The pink and green are DDR3 slots, we have already confirmed this way back.
08-27-2007, 05:31 PM
MpG

The slots say "DDR111, DDR112, DDR113, DDR114".
08-27-2007, 05:50 PM
dinos22

lol even the slots in the photo look like DDR2 slots with the middle notch closer to the middle rather than side

here is a shot of P5KC from coolalers site which has orange ddr3 and the others are ddr2

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8...8c5adp0.th.jpg
08-27-2007, 07:20 PM
EvlUndrWareNome

just give me an X38 that clocks. The heatpipe selloff is getting annoying. Lets see a lean mean board again like the p35 DS3R.
08-29-2007, 12:38 AM
BulldogPO

What was that talk when Intel allowed nVidia to make xeon chipsets and Intel vas given in trade license to use SLI on their chipsets??
BS?
08-29-2007, 12:47 AM
naokaji

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvlUndrWareNome

just give me an X38 that clocks. The heatpipe selloff is getting annoying. Lets see a lean mean board again like the p35 DS3R.

yep...

the funny thing is that the p35 DS3R proved that all that heatpipe junk isnt really needed, yet some companies still try to make us believe we need it... (msi rollercoaster mobo anyone?)
08-29-2007, 12:55 AM
Jamesrt2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by BulldogPO

What was that talk when Intel allowed nVidia to make xeon chipsets and Intel vas given in trade license to use SLI on their chipsets??
BS?

Think it was just for Quadro SLI :(
08-29-2007, 12:56 AM
Agent11

That MSI board was a joke.

Not that I think MSI when looking for a board anyways.
08-29-2007, 05:40 AM
IronAge

In this preview of the GA X38 DQ6 it has esata plugs in the ATX i/o area.

http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles...?cid=6&id=2315

Hopefully this design will be the retail version.

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