a jap guy : TAM
P4C800 + Jetram PC2700*2
vcore : 2.17v
vio : 3.60v
LN2
the score is here (the first)
http://son.t-next.com/wcpuid/wcpuid.html
http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconVa...2c/id-5125.gif
Printable View
a jap guy : TAM
P4C800 + Jetram PC2700*2
vcore : 2.17v
vio : 3.60v
LN2
the score is here (the first)
http://son.t-next.com/wcpuid/wcpuid.html
http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconVa...2c/id-5125.gif
Holy crap! :eek: What is cooling that? A prommie?
Ln2 ...
2.2v eh? i bet it died 30min later :p:
EDIT: honestly i dont understand what you guys see in those ln2 scores... what if it was possible to run it for 5min with 3v and ln2 cooling @ lets say 6ghz... whats special about it?
No need to take the piss, it *could* be a Vapochill :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by saaya
yeah that sure is aircooling :rolleyes:
edit: I see you edited your post. Never mind.
hehehe :)
vapochill is only up to 140W and with 2.2v that chip must produce some 250W of heat :p:
i have 1 thing to say...
:slobber:
anyone have a 3.2c that they want to donate to me? :D
What a nice way to spend money, CPU dead within 2 minutes, i guess it's time for an RMA :banana:
awesome score though :slobber:
hahahahah lol thatd be fun, just fry one chip after another with 2.2v and ln2 and rma it right away until one day you reach a super oc :D
still not worth the money if you ask me...
nicely done, anymore, how long did the chip actually run at 2.2?
OMG......:slobber: :slobber: :slobber:
BTW..... where is the benchmarks?:p:
Dont wait for an answer because this JAP guy probably making ONLY Toasts with this CPU.... :D :D
This is the real BURN IN... lol... :D
What temperatures do you have ? :P
I dont know ;)Quote:
Originally posted by JiMk
This is the real BURN IN... lol... :D
What temperatures do you have ? :P
It's not my oc :banana:
So ? who haves that overclock ?
TAMQuote:
Originally posted by JiMk
So ? who haves that overclock ?
goodness...
Some say it doesn't mean anything because it only lasts a few mintues, but if it makes me say "HOLY #$%*!!!!" when i first see it, then as far as I am concerned it is cool as hell!!!!
If you have the money why no
I'm die-hard AMD folk but that's just impressive beyond impressive!!! :eek: WTG TAM!!! :toast:
I'd be surprised if thats anything but ln2, Impressive clock, but pretty useless... Kinda like smoking your tires, looks impressive but doesn't win the race....
I agree that LN2 is pretty, but useless. Now if you could run it long enough to get a 3d mark score out of it, thatd be sweet.
I tend to pay more attension to phase change benches. Theyre normally closer to stable OC's. Gives me a reason to hope for a gem.
hehehe with ln2 his temps were probably 30°C load :p:
TAM doesn't OC for 3dmark or other benches, just to acheive the highest OC.
He's sorta lika an Opp in that arena of OCing. He is consistantly on top with his LN OC's. He also has some incredible fsb runs with ES chips.
P.S. Jap = racial slur :(
"Japanese dude" = much more politically correct phrase.
C
Quote:
Originally posted by saaya
hehehe with ln2 his temps were probably 30°C load :p:
30c load on ln2? hm i dont think so.
30c=86F..
More like -30c or so if ln2 was used.
GO JAP DUDE >.<
do you talk like koreans?? :x
ME KOREA~~~~~~ ::;;:;-_-,,;;
is this the first person to hit 5ghz?
my Friend Claims 5ghz was broken in 2002. but i think hes wrong..
That's the first 5 giggy ever on Holicho's site...
C
ln2 or prommy or vapochill, this is just a benchmark. im sure most people who did 1.8v to bench will not run 1.8v 24/7, its just the same.
no matter this is ln2 or prommie cooled or whatever, this 3.2 chip is a supa rare find, try do it with ln2, dry ice or bench in the south pole with a 3.2, thats a almost 2ghz overclock, even the chip died in 1 min, this is the highest clock ever.
More like -130C
exactly...i mean whats the point even if it managed to run 3dmark of having a cpu for a coupple minutes.... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by saaya
Ln2 ...
2.2v eh? i bet it died 30min later :p:
EDIT: honestly i dont understand what you guys see in those ln2 scores... what if it was possible to run it for 5min with 3v and ln2 cooling @ lets say 6ghz... whats special about it?
that's just a waste of money...
okeee, it's impressive but what's the big deal???
exactly...
Impressive? why cause you managed to get into windows and take a wincpuid screenshot? please...
wonder if some of this guys actually USE a computer!
intel had a P4 running @4 or 4.5ghz with ln2 cooling on some conference in 2002 i think.
this is the first 5ghz screeny i know of, but i dont really care about that stuff. those numbers are impressive, but far from daily use ocs. those ocs dont show anything...
TAM'S got the same bug we all have to OC our own CPU to the highest stable at a higher priced chip level and get the best benches or for daily use. We are all probably shortening the lives of our chips. It's just that his bug is the challenge of going as high as he can. Admit it, if you all could get just that little more out of your chip you would. Well, it seems like he has the wherewithal, drive, tech knowledge,and mostly money to do what he likes to do. I don't understand why some come to this forum to learn how to go faster, then come down on someone who by all intents and purposes, seems to be holding the WR for the latest fastest chip. I'm sure when the Prescott comes out, we'll see TAM (NOT a JAP, a fellow overclocker) at the top again in short time. I for one would probably try to do the same if I had the money and wife who wouldn't put me into Bellvue Psychiatric Ward for using LN in the house.
Anyway, WTG TAM! Okay, I'm off the 'ole soapbox, for now.:)
Well IMHO one thing is overclocking for daily and real use...other completly diferent is overclock for short time periods just to take screenshots or run x program...
Why? Overclocking is overclocking. The two differences just lie in what each of us want. To come down on somebody for doing something that they get a joy out of, that we all do, just to a different extent, well, I think is wrong. Myabe I'm wrong, maybe I'm not. To be honest, I don't even think of it as wrong or right. Just what makes each of us different and makes this forum and all the others that much better. To take this incredible technology that we take for granted every day, and manipulate it how we see fit, is just awesome. Whatever each of us is doing.
And yes, I have stopped to think, and forgotten to start up again. Usually after a ton of tequilla :toast:
WAY TO FOOOOOOOCKING GO...........THAT IS WAYYY PHATT !!!
Actually, I doubt his cpu died on him. I've seen intel chips take a lot more voltage than that. I think many of you are misinformed about ln2 setups "killing" p4s. You'll actually stand a better chance of killing a cpu by mounting a vapochill onto an AMD. Seriously, look into it. These guys know what they're doing, and certainly they've killed some chips but so have a lot of us. The japanese LN2 scene is very experienced with this, and I know from observation that using LN2 to cool a cpu and then running 40%-60% more volts than default is not gauranteed to kill a chip in a few minutes. How many of you talking about killing cpus with LN2 have actually ever had any experience with it? not many I would imagine. I've seen a p4 submerged into ln2 several times over the course of a week and then tested (the process is called cryo-annealing) and it worked fine. It wouldn't overclock any better but it certainly was not dead. ALL I'm saying is that experienced users with LN2, who have a good test table, containers, etc. generally DON'T kill their cpus, or even their motherboards.
If you think 2.1v for a P4 is good...well...you are SO SO SO wrong...
I ain't saying its the ln2 but THE VOLTAGE that will kill the cpu!
youve seen intel chips take a lot more voltage like that??? where? ive never seen any P4 with more than 2.2v, or do you mean a celeron 300a? :p:Quote:
Actually, I doubt his cpu died on him. I've seen intel chips take a lot more voltage than that
its pretty sad to see all these people on this forum with negitive comments about a 5ghz overclock..
i mean, if your not impressed then WHY ARE YOU HERE?
:mad:
Sorry to display such n00bness but I am guessing LN2 is liquid nitrogen of some sort? The 2 part is throwing me for a little bit of a loop. :)
Here Here Dissolved!!! Well said.
Well ill try to to get up to 4 ghz stable when my P4c800-e and
4X 3.2ghz oem chips come in. will do that vmod first.
the 2 is suppose to be a subscript stating that there are 2 bonbed N atoms. N is a diproctic element, so you would not naturally see a single N atom, but 2 chemically bonded N atoms making N2...
On that note chemistry blows!!!! I got a 4 on my ap chem exam, so i am going to have to take it next year at georgia tech. What a crock, i bet i was like 1 point short...did i mention that chemistry BLOWS?!!!
OK...a question....how many of you think OPP runs his computer everyday 24/7 at the same hairy, ragged edge that he uses to get his world record 3dMark runs? Anyone?
I thought not.
I have a hard time swallowing the reaction here myself. This is just another competitive area of overclocking. Not better - not worse. Different. Nobody says it has to be your bag...but why the need to rag on someone for whom it surely brings great enjoyment?
Not to mention is it a hell of an accomplishment!
Ahhhh ok the N2 is just di-nitrogen. That is what I figured but you never know. :)
Anyone have links to sites showing detailed pic's of these guys desktops, containers and set-ups??
C
Yeah, except you would not say dinitrogen, because you never put a prefix such as mono/di/tri/etc on the first part on a chemical name. :DQuote:
Originally posted by Narbo
Ahhhh ok the N2 is just di-nitrogen. That is what I figured but you never know. :)
IMO, there's been a few "sad" things around XS.org lately... :( Glad to see some people still enjoy these things like I do. ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Dissolved
its pretty sad to see all these people on this forum with negitive comments about a 5ghz overclock..
i mean, if your not impressed then WHY ARE YOU HERE?
:mad:
Gotcha! I think I even knew that at one time a decade or so ago. I have not taken any chemistry since first year university and it certainly shows! :p:Quote:
Originally posted by gouda96
Yeah, except you would not say dinitrogen, because you never put a prefix such as mono/di/tri/etc on the first part on a chemical name. :D
I will be able to say that in 2 years :D. I will be realy happy to put chem in the past. Hopefully it will be easier being that i basically know everything they are going to teach next year, i hope.Quote:
Originally posted by Narbo
Gotcha! I think I even knew that at one time a decade or so ago. I have not taken any chemistry since first year university and it certainly shows! :p:
@ Jeff
No you dont :pQuote:
"Waffles??? I HATE Belgium waffles!"
here : http://res9.7777.net/bbs/TAM/Quote:
Originally posted by charlie
Anyone have links to sites showing detailed pic's of these guys desktops, containers and set-ups??
C
and with the 3.2C in aircooling
1.60v(1.550v) 238.04x16=3808.63
1.62v(1.575v) 239.83x16=3837.27
NICE!...I wonder what the tissue paper is about. I suppose it catches any drips when pouring.
For those who were asking:
I've seen a willamette on LN2 take 3volts and live and I've seen a northwood take 2.3v and live. You gotta remember that this amount of voltage causes deterioration over time but most LN2 experiements last only 20minutes or so.
As far as LN2 experiences that I have not witnessed personally, I've read about and seen pictures of several with 2.2v and 2.3v on a northwood and the chips haven't died. I'm sure others on these forums who have seen/used LN2 have had similar experiences with P4s surviving these high voltages.
Oh,and on a side note I once accidentally crammed 2.8v through a R300 core and actually played some games before I realized I fuxed my vmod and the screen started artifacting. The core lived. (pelt cooling)
Awwwww.......
I don't see any pics...just some wcpuid screenies in a forum...
im impressed by air, water, chilled water, tec and vapo scores but ln2 is something completely diferent for me...Quote:
Originally posted by Dissolved
its pretty sad to see all these people on this forum with negitive comments about a 5ghz overclock..
i mean, if your not impressed then WHY ARE YOU HERE?
:mad:
well i guess all the high scores in the orb are not stable 24/7, but reduce the clocks by 5% and its stable, ln2 is something completely different.
I'll put it this way:
The people that downplay a 5GHz screenie are simply jealous.
Dont think for a second that if they had done that themselves (first to 5G), they wouldn't show it off.
Sorry, not impressed, sure not jealous either, my 3.0 does 4ghz on water, hmmm, what might it do on LN2, but I'll never know, or care to....Quote:
Originally posted by Hallowed
I'll put it this way:
The people that downplay a 5GHz screenie are simply jealous.
Dont think for a second that if they had done that themselves (first to 5G), they wouldn't show it off.
As for why come here if not to hear bragging about 5 ghz LN2 screenies:rolleyes:
Quite simple really, there is no better place to come and get/give info on what hardware sux, what rox, solving problems, advice, interesting conversation with like minded peepz, ETC... The list could go one for quite a while.... Hell I could link to one or two individual threads that are worth the price of admission alone!
should anyone begrudge Tam for his 5ghz screenie? HELL NO! should everyone who considers XS there home be impressed, sorry don't think so.....
Should anyone here be looked down on for expressing there opinion, impressed, or not?
Now am I EVIL for not being impressed? Probably:D
Ok,
So you're not impressed by a 5 giggy screenie...well how about this? Here's some more of his handywork.
Quote:
Originally posted by charlie
Ok,
So you're not impressed by a 5 giggy screenie...well how about this? Here's some more of his handywork.
Charlie, being impressed, or not being impressed has nothing to do with the indivdual. A screenshot of a processor getting into windows far enough for a screenie at 5 ghz does not impress ME, the current screenshot does not show me 24/7 stability, while it does show at least some kind of stability it still doesn't mean a whole lot.
This is my opinion, Its NOT RIGHT, or WRONG, simply my opinion. what is impressive to you, may not be to me, does that mean your right? or I'm right? not at all, does it mean we cannot enjoy the same forum? no it does not....
Quote:
Originally posted by Ruantic
I'd be surprised if thats anything but ln2, Impressive clock, but pretty useless... Kinda like smoking your tires, looks impressive but doesn't win the race....
and here, to quote myself, credit was given for the actual clock speed.......
Ruantic, i agree with you on that but what i cannot agree with are the people that say LN2 does not have its place or usefullness. We all know it does not last long and is deffinently not 24/7 but as long as it can do a short benchmark and break some scores then it has some use and no matter how short that may be it still is somthing.
So you draw the line at 5% or just somewhere around there? :p:Quote:
Originally posted by saaya
im impressed by air, water, chilled water, tec and vapo scores but ln2 is something completely diferent for me...
well i guess all the high scores in the orb are not stable 24/7, but reduce the clocks by 5% and its stable, ln2 is something completely different.
Nice overclock btw!
if the 3.2c wasnt £500+ then i'd get one, tooo expensive at the moment :)
hmmmmm....
wonder how they pour the LN2 into the copper tube? Using the styrofoam cup?
C
hmmmmm....
wonder how they pour the LN2 into the copper tube? Using the styrofoam cup?
C
nope not jealous to have spent some hundret $ for a digital image... :)Quote:
I'll put it this way:
The people that downplay a 5GHz screenie are simply jealous.
Dont think for a second that if they had done that themselves (first to 5G), they wouldn't show it off
:confused: i think you got me wrong. i mean maybe opp and jcs scores are not stable for 24/7, but clocked just a bit slower they are. an ln2 score with 2.2v will never ever be stable, that chip probably wont even run @4.3ghz 24/7...Quote:
So you draw the line at 5% or just somewhere around there?
Nice overclock btw!
whats your problem anyways? if you think its great than ... feel good about it ...or whatever this screenshot makes you feel, but leave us guys alone who are not impressed by it, geez :rolleyes:
an other world record with 2*TRANSCEND 09-1675 (HYNIX D43) at 3.02v
DDR592.4!!!!!!!! :eek:
http://www.biwa.ne.jp/~yok/
http://www.biwa.ne.jp/~yok/Memory-Ra...hiro-296-2.jpg
memory running 296mhz? nice! :slobber:
This is like saying that u wouldn't respect a top fuel dragster because it can't run on streets. You guys are completely jealous. If u had half the nuts u'd do it urself... Don't disrespect somebody like this. LN2 is an excellent form of ocing people only say these things cause they are jealous and pissed that they don't got the nads to try it.. Everyone oc'es there pc a little more to bench this is just on a larger scale.
AND FOR CHRIST SAKES THIS IS XTREMESYSTEMS.ORG NOT NORMALSYSTEMS.ORG
Quote:
Originally posted by youthemandan
This is like saying that u wouldn't respect a top fuel dragster because it can't run on streets. You guys are completely jealous. If u had half the nuts u'd do it urself... Don't disrespect somebody like this. LN2 is an excellent form of ocing people only say these things cause they are jealous and pissed that they don't got the nads to try it.. Everyone oc'es there pc a little more to bench this is just on a larger scale.
AND FOR CHRIST SAKES THIS IS XTREMESYSTEMS.ORG NOT NORMALSYSTEMS.ORG
Well your OPINION is certainly welcome here, however Don't put labels on people you don't have a clue about.... If you think it takes balls to bench with LN2, thats your perogative, However I see no similarities with "nads" and LN2, It doesn't take courage, balls, nads, nutz or whatever you want to call it to overclock a computer :rolleyes: sheesh! All it takes is cash, knowledge, and no worries about destroying hardware....
As for "disrespect" LOL, thats a bit blown out of proportion... Because someone isn't impressed and says so, that is disrespectfull? I think you should practice what you preach, and respect everyone for there opinion, voice yours freely just leave the labels and personal comments at home...
Don't you just love how every ln2 oc becomes an argument about the same things :D
Someone should make a seperate post for this kind of argument. I am willing to bet that within 2 months we would have over 100000000 posts in here, all pretty much repeating what the first 2 or 3 posts said :D
I want to use ln2 and post it so i can have my own thread full of people debating this stuff:banana:
We should be applauding this accomplishment. I mean we are here to try to get highest OC. But i do agree we should take into account if the system can run 24/7 stable.
Very nice!!!
For the ppl that is not impressed i can just say you are a couple of strange guys!
I think about the ocers that uses Ln2 is in another league sort of, but this Tam seams to be the best of his league. Dont you think a F1 car is impressive because it doesnt go thousends of miles, i bet when you got one in your hands you would be impressed. Think its thesame with this CPU.
I bett that if some of you guys some day did change the fsb way by accident but the comp booted up anyway, so that you could take a screen @5+ghz but after 20min it was dead. I dont think you would hide the jpg just because your cpu didnt work the next day.
Hope all get my crappy writings, dont use my english much.
I do not think any of the CPUs cooled by LN2 died, even getting 2.2V :) did you ever hear about the thermal acceleration? As I understand it, the life of the chip depends exponentially on the temperature it's running and the same way for the increase of the voltage. If you just were able to keep those -100-192C 24/7, your chip running at 2.2V would not die any time soner than say you running stock on air cooling :)
Hmm....kind of suspicious, if you ask me. :stick:
and what about dryice?its the same concept of ln2.... but it's 3dmark usable.. So,i guess u don't say nothing when it is used.. Because I bet if u saw opp with ln2 on the 1st place of the orb,u wouldn't have this type of comments
_zZz_
new scores
DDR600 :slobber:
http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclo...0711140346.jpg
http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclo...0707165148.jpg
dry ice is ln2 for beginners... same thing, and ocs achieved with it are meaningless to me, just as ln2 clocks... and i dont care who used it. if opp decides to use it , it wouldnt make me think any diferent aboutz it as if some guy submerges his setup in ln2 and scores 30K in 2k1... would be an interesting fun bench hehe but its a diferent league than vapo ocing.Quote:
and what about dryice?its the same concept of ln2.... but it's 3dmark usable.. So,i guess u don't say nothing when it is used.. Because I bet if u saw opp with ln2 on the 1st place of the orb,u wouldn't have this type of comments
just as vapo ocing is a diferent league as water or air ocing...
I wonder why, except for holicho sometimes, the Japanese do not go for 3dmark benching ?
You'd think they'd be happy to extend their cpu overclocking to this.
Very strange.
Regards
Andy
A-DATA DDR500 (PC4000) :banana:
The best
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/akiba...mage/npc42.jpg
DDR628.2
http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconVa...-gp/ddr628.gif
ADD8608A8A-4B D68001H
3.46V VDIMM
Timings (By SPD)
P4C800 Deluxe (i875)
P4 2.8G ES (1.525v)
XP Pro SP1
http://www.vrforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=8951
When Silicon reaches sub-zero temps it becomes a super conductor.
amazing mem here!!!
damn...i can't find it in canada :(