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I am building a 30k btu cascade these days for a friend. I asked eleven to make a special edition for this project.
It is bigger than the previous. 50mm diameter. Capilary tube or cpev in the middle and of course a really long channel ;)
When i will solder it i'll show some more photos.
http://xs317.xs.to/xs317/07302/HPIM3332a.jpg
Special thanks to 11 for the support :)
Should be intresting. Whats the plan hold down for it? Oh and what temps with no load @ evap you hoping for
Isnt 50mm hard to insulate?
its beautiful work unseen
can you tell me the size (diameter) of the suction return on this evap 10mm?
wow looks great unseen! And props to eleven for some of the best evaps made :toast:
That ought to work great!
Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by gosmeyer
30k btu! Sheesh, what gas are you going to use and what temps do you expect to get?
The evap has a long path, keeps the refrigerant above the cpu, and leaves enough room in the channels for expansion. Not to mention elevens designs have worked very well.
Because of results they have had in the past with that very design leads me to say it will still perform well . And Unseen has no problem putting together a quality build. I wouldn't do the 50mm dia. but it's not me. I didn't say it will work the best but I have no problem saying it ought to work great. Just MHO.
Plus I like being optimistic.
Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ;)
Thanks to Gil
I never seen a reason to jump out of perfectly good airplane. But Gosmeyer has done it.Quote:
Originally Posted by n00b 0f l337
Noob are you trying to label people??? I think your reasoning is not correct,Everything I do I asked myself, what can go wrong? and plan for that also.
I,m a eternal optimist. It's called just being prepared.Things can and do go wrong.Understanding the risks and preparing for them is just prudent,not a pessimist.
Err? Anyways that evap looks amazing, hell I'd put something like that as an emblem on a car, trick it out and see how many people break their neck doing a double-take ;)
I'm an optimistic pessimist!
Expect the worst hope for the best and make do in the middle.
why is everyone moving away from the classic design
i am yet to really see anything post direct comparison details between the good old chilly1 or kayl evap and the new style
I'll be comparing an NF11FX/ Chilly1 Condenser/ Chilly1 2007 vs NF11FX/Chilly1 Condenser/Cryostar in about a week, damn near exact same builds so I think it'll be a good comparison to see how the different designs react.
My mouth is watering already!
Hell, I haven't seen a direct comparison between those two:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
FINALLY!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler
thank you
For temps i still cant say. Hold down will be the same as the previous version.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete
http://xs317.xs.to/xs317/07303/enclosures9so.jpg
Hey bro it is not so big :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster
Thanks. You can put 3/8 inch pipe for suction.Quote:
Originally Posted by bazx
Dinos i am using this design for years now... 95% of my builds has these evapsQuote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
http://xs217.xs.to/xs217/07303/evaps6cc.jpg
http://xs217.xs.to/xs217/07303/30zu.jpg
http://xs217.xs.to/xs217/07303/16zs.jpg
:eek:
superb evap
but 40-45mm diamter is enough I think
You got it,back to the core question? What can I do to make it faster.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Why is everyone forgetting this is a PC forum & specifically this is the direct die phase section as it relates to phase change cooling for the purpose of CPU overclocking and cooling other PC components to increase performance?
Where has all the posts of the overclocks gone???? how guys debated for months,builds were done and the owner was proud to show off a small gain in speed, only to want more. Now the number on the thermometer seems to override a great hard earned OC .
I bet I can count on one hand the number of OC's posted is the DD phase section in the last 6 months.Yes I know where they are posted but they used to post here also.:shrug:
Thats what my rant in Pete's thread was about. Where is the making what you got run faster???? not all about the new chip on the block.Many don't have the money to buy all new hardware every 3 months.It's about both......Where have all the older chips gone??? I wish there was a smiley in a rocking chair for that last sentence.
Well for builders it gets a bit monotonous if you were to whip out a rig to bench with on each build as you'd just be reporting the same results. If you do check the Overclocking subforum you do see some examples with people saying whose cooling they are using. It's just easier and more universal to use a loadtester which is why we had all the talk about them in the past and to this day.
Good work there Unseen. I'm eager to hear your results.
@ Walt: I'm with you regarding hanging on to my hardware for a while. In fact that is what got me into phase change in the first place. I didn't want to buy a new processor ever 6 months so I started doing research into overclocking and cooling...which has lead me here. I'm old fashioned will always be a little behind the latest and greatest hardware but thankfully each chip I buy from now on will be super cooled and overclocked.
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Originally Posted by dinos22
I have never seen any evaps compared on any forum. Same goes with ln2/dice pots, all you ever see is someones new design/revision, never any hard evidence that the new design is really any better than the old one.Quote:
Originally Posted by gosmeyer
A while back I had a small single stage with a Chilly 1 evap and had been running it on a system I was benching with, I built a simple cap in cap evap on a Maze4 gpu base and installed it on that single stage.... running it on the same bench setup I could find no performance difference between the cap in cap and the Chilly evap. I realize this is not a perfect test, but it raises questions about why some evaps are considered better than others? Too many parts are bought by "name", not performance. I think the differences between the "top" evaps will be very small.
I would think the evap designers/marketers would want this comparison testing... if they really do think their design is better ;)
Does anyone want to test it?
Can you make the channel more rough?
Hey unseen. Im currently in the process of making one very similar to that. But i'll test it with my new SS :D
I'll shot blast one for you if you want to see if is make an change on teps. I'll only do the insides of it
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Originally Posted by Unseen
sure i will test it for you
unseen:
ofcourse, I would like to test it and compare it to LDs and Dunieks evaps on big load as well :)
I would test a couple with my gpu sli cascade, would go head to head with the two kayl gpu blocks i have here. Looks very promising btw, whoever does end up testing it i'd be very interested in the results.
edit: Just realized these arn't gpu blocks :p: When i read the "for quad core beasts" i for some reason thought it said quad sli.lol You wouldnt be able to make a couple with suction comming out the side so i could use them as gpu blocks? Seems like it's be pretty simple to do.
Looks good, Is there a reason for the heavy cap thickness?
Looks like it would be easier to braze on the suction line with the increased thickness.
I would love to see it compared with aitors latest evap ( as long as him and ssilencer agree) :)
Yes :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Unseen
Hi guys :)
Well this one is made for a friend and he will use it in his ss this week. But eleven can make some more. I can send one or two for testing. I will prefer users with experience in phase change. I will send pm.
@gosmeyer In the middle we will conect cpev. The center hole is 1/8 inch. The other is 3/8.
Yea; would be great :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Unseen
Cool, Thanks:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Unseen
Thanks guys for the interest. I cant send many samples. As you know that copper plus machine time is a bit expensive. Only one or two. For the others who want one send me a pm please. The charge is small.
One will go to bazx and the other will go to piotres. I choose those guys cause i want to see how it will perform in cascades.
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Originally Posted by Unseen
thanks unseen for the trust
i will do my best with this evap:)
baz
hehehe.. I know that it will be a nice combination with your new cascade.
Guys if i could i would send to everyone a evap but you know how it is...
They will do a good job that's for sure!