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some early tests back at the lab by the boys...looking good for the 1600EB we just released.
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/st...y1_2ghzram.PNG
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/st.../DDR3_2032.JPG
We shipped a kit out for independant test so more results soon ;) Max voltage here was just over 2V...1.8 is very much a sweet spot we found already.
nice :)
Looking forward to getting a DDR3 system
Amazing chips, seems like micron will win high end crown again.
nice results Tony :up:
OCZ is back :D
Well looks like this new bin hit the 1800 release point, so we will have 1600 and 1800 speeds available.
We shipped a kit to EVA2000, he will stress them up for sure ;) as soon as the arrive.
Tony, they any good at tight timings?
Sure will... will set up the Asus Blitz Extreme for testing :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Which board was the above results on ?
hahaha I was sitting here hoping "ship it to eva ship it to eva" :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Wow thats some seriously bad DDR3 Tony :clap: :shocked:
very nice eva2000 :D nice toys.. :) I'll wait for your results.. :D hope your memory arrives ASAP.. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
Micron strikes again with the "Z9" chips.
Now we know why all that cheap DDR2 has been available everywhere...after these new Micron chips hit the market, none of the other stuff will have a chance.
A friend of mine at Micron did a lot of the layout work on that IC. This DDR3 IC was done by the Dallas team and not the Boise team and the Dallas team is mostly from TI memory division and have worked on memory layout for over 20 years.
So combining experience of Dallas team, 20 years of hard work, will bring us memory, which doesn't die from high voltages :D
Wow impressive clocks. Hopefully they clock that good outside the lab too ;)
OCZ PC3-14400 Platnium Micron Z9 babies have arrived :woot:
http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mem...3_14400_01.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mem...3_14400_03.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mem...3_14400_05.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mem...3_14400_06.jpg
Setting up Asus Blitz Extreme right now. Thanks OCZ/Tony :up:
Oh la la, sexy DDR3 :D
Wich type of Micron chips are used?
Are memory modules single rank or double rank ? In other words there are chips only on one side of the memory module or both sides of the memory module?
Thanks.
Great chips Micron !!
I recieved a Kit DDR3 of Geil , Kingston , Chaintech is all chips Elpida (max 800 :( ) , i hope recieved a Kit Adata , Winchip with others Chips :) (and maybe OCZ ... wait & see :)
Yeah..Quote:
Originally Posted by Fr3ak
Hope they'll clock just as good outside lab, time will tell ;)
You're kidding me :clap:
Awesone Chips
Micron still better on DDR3
AFAIK A-data doesnt have micron DDR3 nowQuote:
Originally Posted by boblemagnifique
Yes it's my first time playing with DDR3 platform :) Thanks goes out to Asus for supplying the Asus Blitz Extreme and OCZ for supplying the 2GB OCZ PC3-14400 Platinum dual channel kit (Micron DDR3 IC based) and the 1KW OCZ ProXStream power supply :)
System:
- Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 L627A872
- Swiftech G4 Storm/Thermochill 120.3/MCP655
- Asus Blitz Extreme 0601 bios
- 128MB Gainward FX5200 PCI
- 2x1GB OCZ PC3-14400 Platinum - DDR3-1800 rated at 8-8-8-27 at 1.9v
- 500GB Seagate 7200.10 SATA on SATA1 Port
- LiteOn 165H DVD Burner
- Sony FDD
- 1KW OCZ ProXStream
- WinXP Pro SP2
I've only had the system setup in the last 48 hrs so still trying to find my way on this new DDR3 platform.
Some super pi runs, all with no copy-waza/maxmem tweaks.
At stock mem speed and stock main timings of 900mhz 8-8-8-27 at 1.9v vdimm
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32M
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Tighten timings to 7-6-5-18 but still at 900mhz memory frequency.
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32M
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1M
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Prime95 v25.3 Blend Load
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very great results,without tweak eva2000:up:
I think easy break sub 13min with tweaks:)
Micron Z9 :bounces:
Micron rocks!
Nice job eva. Looks great so far.
Lucky Eva ... show us the screenies ...
:yepp:
My OCZ DDR3-1800 results going up tonight.
QX6850/P5K3-D/Vapo
8K BTU blast AC
I'll be waiting....... :D
As will many more of us I'm sure. :yepp:
i can't keep up... i give up... i just bought crucial ballistix ddr-2 1000mhz...
damn eva got some pretty nice numbers on those ocz
http://fugger.netfirms.com/oczddr3.jpg
Matching George on this one and I will most likely will raise to 485 ~ 510 FSB for the bandwidth shots then onto more 3D.
Ive been trying cas 6, but it loves cas 7
This is insane memory, more flexibility and speed from where D9 left off.
Awesome stuff OCZ :toast:
Nice going all you lucky guys :)
BTW, when can we expect these out in stores?
yeah micron really did an amazing job, perf wise it beats all other ddr3 chips, and the great flexibility kills the competition :D
yeah :DQuote:
Originally Posted by saaya
Micron Z9 with 3v and LN2 cooling , it's roxx soon :yepp: :up:
:D :eek: :shocked: :D :rofl: :D :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by boblemagnifique
I will finish up tomorrow, the newest bios helps a lot.
Nature run at 756Mhz on the GPU
http://fugger.netfirms.com/oczddr3/84375.jpg
i'm freaked out by that chip
how is it possible that you are able to bench at 4.7Ghz on a quad with a single stage cooler
wtf is going on here :confused:
and why aren't you benching LN2 already :D
lets keep this about the new RAM hmm?
That RAM looks really nice. DDR-1880 with 7-7-7-15 timings is sweet. How much voltage did you use for that?
I am pushing 2.2v now but I wouldnt use this voltage for 24/7 use nor would I use without excessive cooling.
Great job FUGGER! Awsome numbers.
Nice FUGGER.. have you tried Everest Ultimate 4.10.1076 beta ? more comparable in terms of results :)
Been playing with X6800/E6750 and now E6600 trying to find a cpu with higher FSB headroom.. but out of luck :(
Limited to 485FSB but OCZ PC3-14400 Platinum @DDR3-1940Mhz 8-8-8-27 at 2.12v vdimm is pretty nice :D
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Buffered
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Unbuffered
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1M
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32M
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That's looking great eva! I think I need a DDR3 board soon!
Yeah taking me some time to figure out the board and different cpus hehe
Compared to my E6600 max mhz frequency @3960Mhz
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Bli...s_pcprobe2.png
If only my cpu could do 8x495FSB 1:2 heh
What's the retail price of these sets? Nevermind, I found it. :shocked: Jeez, imagine if you wanted 4 gigs of this stuff . . almost $1600 just for the ram. Yikes . . .
You want the best you got to leave some money at the store:p
those are tight timingsQuote:
Originally Posted by Apoptosis
comparable to DDR1-500 2-2-2 in terms of latency.
yeah, the tightest timings youll see with ddr3 anytime soon are 533 and you wont get very far with those timings :D 1000mhz maybe...
while this sounds nice, ddr2 1000 with 533 would be cool, it isnt that fast.
ddr3 is all about bw and hence speed. timings dont really have a big impact, even cas and ras to cas delay.
Timings are actually not the best way of looking at the latency, you guys see 8-8-8- and think the performance will be crap, point is this may be at 2000MHZ so you have to look at the actual ns rating at that speed to see what is going on.
I added some info to an article Kris wrote showing latency as different speeds,over here which shows CAS latency and the effect raw speed has on the actual latency its self.
If you look close we are already doing better than i hoped with this Micron DDR3 so infact its actually faster than DDR2 in broad terms.
Timing numbers are just how many clocks are needed for memory chips\controlled to do their job (e.g. write operation or read, or refresh etc.)
So cas 9 at 1000MHz (real freq), = 1000M\9 = 9ns.
For cas 4 at 500MHz (as B6 chips in DDR2) = 8ns
Cas 5 at 500MHz (most of DDR2) = 10ns
So bigger number not always crap, just need work with calc, to tell some kind of truth :)
I think i'm correct :)
for those who dont want to acceppt that we will HAVE to live with higher latencies...
how about ddr3 1600 with cas5? :D
but as soon as you start to play with ddr3 you will see that the timings really dont have such a big impact on performance anymore.
EDIT: Hey tin eof, long time no see :D
Hows it going? :D
Hurry up with your c2d project before nehalem is out :P
I think that timings and working frequency are not sufficient to explain latencies and performance for RAM modules.
You have to look internal architecture of memory chips and the way how they are working. Between DDR2 memory chips and DDR3 memory chips there are a lot of differencies. In DDR3 memory chips there are a lot of new technical features that have improved signalling efficiency, data bus efficiency, commands efficiency and so on that, at the end, improve the general perfomances of memory modules.
the best way to get an idea of the performance is and always will be... benching :D
Revisiting this memory now...
Q6600 @8x475FSB 1:2 950Mhz 7-7-7-18
Pushing the memory a bit now at 2.2v vdimm!
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I did the same as well George.
I had no problem at all matching the numbers produced on the Dominator modules.
I even tried running them all together but I could not reach max speed with them mixed.
Hopefully I can soon share what I am working on.
Those resulst are impressive..BUT
i have to ask it, the performance is it worth paying the price premium over the high end ddr2 sticks from OCZ :confused:
thanks FUGGER...
as to whether it's worth it.. DDR3 is improving at a blistering pace just look at the latest DDR3 Micron modules that are doing higher and tighter at lower vdimm that the older batch of DDR3 Microns... that or there's 2 types of Micron DDR3 out there some like high looser CAS8 timings and some that like lower CAS6 timings ?????
At such a pace of change it could be expensive to keep up with DDR3.... but on right board with right settings DDR3 will still beat high end DDR2 in memory bandwidth related stuff in some instances...
Still not sure of what the safe and ceiling limits for vdimm for DDR3 though.. no one really has stated it in certain terms.
What the.....Everest 12234 / 8672 / 9402 / 46.6 :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
Damn, I gotta get me some of this Micron DDR3.
eva2000,
Nice results m8! :up:
Those results are insane! DDR3 really is the :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:
Will there be better results with the release of the newer Chipsets? X38 namely.
To me it seems ram is now out pacing CPU's. Will the new 45nm Penryn's match the DDR3 better? Maybe I'm out dated but i thought the idea was to run CPU:RAM @ 1:1 or doesn't it matter these days? Just get the ram as fast as possible, the FSB as fast as possible, and the CPU as fast as possible?
thanks Andy and chatmaster :)
I hope penryn has a much higher FSB wall to take advantage of the next generation of DDR3 memory :D
As far as price/performance goes, what would be your choice of platform? DDr3 numbers are awesome, but I'm unsure of the price/performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000