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Looks like ThermalRight is going to enter the watercooling market.
ThermalRight Water Block XWB-01
http://www.thermalright.com/a_page/m...uct_xwb_01.htm
http://www.thermalright.com/a_images...WB-01-main.jpg
http://www.thermalright.com/a_images...WB-01-main.jpg
Thermalright makes the very best in air cooling solutions. If their water blocks are half as good in terms of quality and performance as their air coolers, I don't think we need to worry about them being like koolance :DQuote:
Originally Posted by SaII
we need pictures for the internals
i second that. we need internal pics
Frightening.
I say that thermalright doesn't waste any R&D money on crappy waterblocks, and sticks to their kicka$$ aircoolers instead.
If it is full copper, and if it has good internals, the block may be great.
We need shots of the Internals!
The base is copper, so it's "full copper.." but yeah, we need internal pix!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ad1tya
Well I think they mean business... at least they are telling us who their intended customer base is.. "Gamers"Quote:
* High-performance supermicro-channel design increasing volume and speed of flow, in direct contact with copper base
* Tight and sturdy mounting mechanism tailored to the specs of gaming motherboards
* Quick and easy installation
* All copper block and lid for minimal oxidation effect and erosion
i don't know if it is the same wb, but vr-zone.com posted this picture from computex07
http://resources.vr-zone.com/Shamino...t/IMG_0847.jpg
Eek... Not sure if that's going to allow water to drip through, Let alone restrict flow. :eek:
Of course those pictures are not enough to make any assumptions.
EDIT: Some other Computex pictures of TR WC products...
An Apparent picture of the block in action! With what appears to be spaghetti painted bronze used as a passive radiator:
http://resources.vr-zone.com/Shamino...t/IMG_0832.jpg
Closeup:
http://resources.vr-zone.com/Shamino...t/IMG_0833.jpg
The Spagetti radiator:
http://resources.vr-zone.com/Shamino...t/IMG_0834.jpg
A Spagetti Rad for "Vide game console"... Looks like they will be chalanging Koolance in the Xbox360 cooling Dept:
http://resources.vr-zone.com/Shamino...t/IMG_0842.jpg
And PS3:
http://resources.vr-zone.com/Shamino...t/IMG_0841.jpg
Any word on these "Spaghetti" radiators that Thermalright is designing? I wonder if, During the manufacturing process, They throw the radiator against the wall and see if it sticks; So as to make sure it's done.
Or perhaps it's not actually made of spaghetti; Who knows. :confused:
VR-Zone link:
http://vr-zone.com/index.php?i=5028&s=4
*Yawn* not nearly as blingy as the usual TT stuff :/
I'm really interested in what Thermalright can offer. They've basically owned the air cooling sector. At least its an all copper solution without any alu so they're off to a good start. Anyone have the release date on this?
I'm actually more interested in their water cooling kit for the Xbox360.
have to wait and see what they do in the near future, that radiator looks pretty funky though
need proper pics of the waterblock though
hmm spagetti radiator, what would they think of next...
thermalright waterblock could use some internal pictures...
Meh, care to guess what it is barbed for? Looks like 1/4 to me.
May be a damn good for 1/4 barb.. But, it's 1/4 barb.
L64 x W48 x H17mm
Take a look at the pick with the dimensions in mind, it's tiny.
edit:took a second look.... May be 3/8. Still, it freaking small.
WTF? Innovatek Plug-On Tank-o-Matics designed for Eheims work as long as the pump barb is 1/2" OD? Or is it a modified pump designed to work with it?
i personaly dont like the postioning of the barbs, too close to eachother and offset more then usual...only time will tell if they'll end up like thermaltake; not bad on air, sux in water.
notice that? kinked tube...id say 3/8"
When a review comes along it will be interesting to see how it does.
I hope it does well, always good to have more competition driving innovation.
...and just where exactly is the aluminum in a DDC?:bs:Quote:
Originally Posted by deeflex
Looking forward to results.
edit: What aluminum in DDCs? The aluminum oxide in the ceramic?
Latest pic from ThermalRight
http://www.thermalright.com/a_images...WB-01-main.jpg
I wonder what the top is made of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Digz
Thermalright's site says "All copper block and lid for minimal oxidation effect and erosion"
Looks like a black nickel plate finish on the "copper" top to me.
I wonder how it would work as a chipset block even though it's a cpu block. it looks like it could be used as one.
Now that's what I like to hear!Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterlogged
That wont come close to a fuzion type performer. Not near the SA as the others. It should be pretty interesting however. Is there a nozzle?
Yeah! Alumina - my bad :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fairydust
It will be interesting to see how they perform, I wonder how restrictive it will be.
I wonder how it'll perform, doesn't look like it would compare to the fuzion/GT/GTX blocks. However I could be wrong, I'm not exactly a pro at waterblock design :p:
I'd like to see what the inlet looks like, as in, whether is uses jets or just a straight inlet or what? So far, it looks like a AquaXtreme MP05 block, but with more micro channels.
Anyone else notice in the last picture with the PS3, theyre using the DDC with Petra's top?
Hey you're right, I see that. I wonder if Petra is aware of that, that's cool :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Polizei
Nice kink in the tubing though, brilliant, nice job thermalright :rolleyes:
I'm not so sure it is. You can see where the 4 screws go.
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4514/img0835sg9.jpg
I'm not sure if those are screws heads or not but...you definitely don't see that on Petra's top.
Those passive rads are pretty interesting... anyone know where they come from? Or are they just custom made?
Hmm I see that, yeah not a petra's top. Oh well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterlogged
Looks like they had put coolsleeves on the tubing - a whole 2 inches worth :lol2: they need to put a little more on methinks ;)
Hmmm... those rads look like something taken from an 80's sci-fi film :D
I'd really like to see how they perform. Is not like they'd fit in anything I've got in mind atm, but still, I feel curious.
It is indeed. It looks nothing like the passive rads I've seen so far (which is probably a good thing given their underwhelming performance).Quote:
Originally Posted by ranker
That block has a nice design!
Rofl.Quote:
Originally Posted by sick_g4m3r
Actually I can't tell if that block will suck or not. Aren't the "fins" (or whatever you call the protrusions inside the block) awfully dense/compact" Seems that flow would be terrible.
they are so small that it woudlnt really matter anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by santiagodraco
Looks like ThermalRight is going to enter the watercooling market.
ThermalRight Water Block XWB-01
http://www.thermalright.com/a_page/m...uct_xwb_01.htm
http://www.thermalright.com/a_images...WB-01-main.jpg
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Woah thats a nifty cool block! Wonder how it will do in tests
im wondering, how would one mount that thing??? is there a some sort of mounting bracket ???
Yeah, the bracket is in the shape of the block with two holes for the barbs. It was in a pic in the other thread.
Here you can see how it will be mount
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8053/dsc02446ls2.jpg
@MaxxxRacer thanks for cleaning up the thread :)
@Topic
Wonder if Thermalright will give a backplate so it can be hard mounted.
Ditto! Love the mods here (and sorry for my part in the previous derailment.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Digz
Anyway will be interesting to see how the block performs in real testing. The internals just look so odd to my novice eyes.
I just appologize for not being able to take care of the thread cleanup.
but when I did get to it, i merged both threads and removed any and all reference to koolance or flaming.
lets try to stay on topic this time!
My thoughts on their new products
1. Their "radiator" looks interesting but wont be terribly effecient.
2. The acrylic in the radiator will probably end up cracking and leaking over time
3. Assuming there is a jet inlet on the waterblock it should perform well. The main thing is getting the cooling patch large enough for dual die (dont know the dimmensions as of yet)
I am gonna expect lotsa of tiny bubbles coming out of the outlet.
Ya for me the rad is the most interesting. So I thought I would discuss those. Now if they want to carry it to the next level . Its really very simple .
Install round fins with a flare that will seperate the fins so that you have airflow threw them . size the hole in the fins so they are tight against the tubes but still slide on easily. Now comes the best part. TO make your tubes and fins react together as 1 part for better heat transferr, get a small steal ball sized just .05 larger than the tube ID. force it into the tube . Now hook air hose to the tube end and force the ball threw the tubes with 125psi air pressure. Make sure to have safty in place at other end of tube so steal ball doesn't become a bullet. use a shut off valve at air nossel to control force .
When your done you will have a pretty efficiect finned rad. Even without airflow the effects will be very good and look cool also.
Just trying to help you guys out that find that rad intersting. So I gave away industry secrets big deal not a big secret either.
Do you think this could overtake the Storm as the single die performance leader? The cooling area looks pretty small to me, so I don't think it'll work too well on todays quad cores.
good question..:clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by safan80
Nothing can really beat the Storm design when it comes to small, single die. It's extremely efficient and complex, and although micro channels as seen in the NeXXoS XP, MP05 Pro/LE, and now this block, come extremely close to the storm in testing, they aren't quite good enough to beat it, and they are usually even more restrictive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shlomo
However, for large/multiple dies, we know the Storm does not really compete well against other blocks with larger cooling patches. But what about a Storm with double or even triple it's current cooling base ( a la G7-G9?)? Or, how bout a micro channel block with a larger cooling patch than any of the previous micro channel blocks we've seen before, such as this offering from thermalright? I think it shows promise. ;)
Before you can do that you need to smack Foxconn upside the head and tell them to get better machining tools for the IHS. And then get Intel/AMD to figure something out to get the thermal resistance between the IHS and die down.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
And then have AMD/Intel reduce the IHS thickness.
Here is a good process for AMD/Intel to ensure a good mount.
1. Produce IHS with tighter tollerances (also make it thinner with thicker nickel plating)
2. Lap the IHS before nickel plating
2. Nickel plate (extra thick)
4. Re-lap the IHS (after mounting to processor)
5. dont laser engrave the IHS. (make the IHS with smaller dimmensions and put the laser etch on the edges of the substrate)
The webpage now says
"All copper block and lid for minimal oxidation effect and erosion "
so it is all copper.
Looks like it's due out here in the UK for £45.99
Thermalright XWB-1 Universal CPU Waterblock
http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/...5&cat=0&page=1
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http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/files/detail/xwb1.jpg
Surprised to see there's no link to the first review of this block in here.
Click!
Darn. Beat me to it..... :D
i wonder how the flatness is on this block. Of if they bowed it like the TR120.
Guys remember this?
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...rmalright6.jpg
Id like to see someone use it for a chipset block