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Does anyone have a pencil volt mod guide for the sapphire X1950GT?
I've searched all over the net without success. :(
The card has a revised PCB also found on the newer Sapphire X1950Pro cards, software/bios voltage adjustments doesn't appear possible with this newer PCB.
EDIT:
http://www.online-translator.com/url...3&psubmit2.y=8
Both pencil mods and FB pin mods for VGPU/VMEM shown below, perform either one, not both!
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7513/125805lu2.jpg
picture with pencil Vgpu/Vmem mods and voltage measurement points:
http://images.people.overclockers.ru/125805.jpg
vmod guide (russian):
http://people.overclockers.ru/BRIDER/record23
I've got the pencil mod working, currently at 1.42v GPU, currently 17 mins into artifact tester (ATITool) at 675MHz on the GPU with stock cooler, temps around 80C load lol think I need to install an arctic X2 on this thing soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by S_A_V
Thanks for the link to the guide mate! :)
LOL thats soo cool, if some1 find pencilmod for Pro i will give hima naked photos of my girl :D lol.
Now thats desperate!:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Agile
Maybe you can give a pic how you did it, i cannot get idea from that russian image wtf i need do..Quote:
Originally Posted by stealthbomber
The Sapphire GT and Pro 256mb have the EXACT same PCB so the mod should be the same.
Well im getting odd readings from that componenet i should pencilmod, that russian in guide says 5990 is the normal resistance but i get reading in ohms 6400, am i doing something wrong or is my meter end of life?
and what about x1950gt agp ?
any pics of pencil mod for agp version?
Isn't an AGP card the same, but with the bridge?
I really don't know for sure, but thought that I have read this before.
nope, it's not like this one on picture from above.
it has different pcb layout
Sapphire X1950GT 256MB stock @500/600, flashed with modded Sapphire X1950Pro 256MB bios @621/715 (same GT PCB rev. bios).
GPU @1.45v, Memory stock @1.8v with modified Arctic Accelero X2 fitted with 80mm 45CFM YS-Tech fan:
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/7...x1950gtxy7.jpg
Not bad for a £70 card incl. delivery.
Only the lack of a better cooling solution and quadcore is preventing me from breaking the 3DMark06 WR.
I reckon the core could maybe reach 750MHz+ with higher volts (1.55v~) and better cooling fitted :D
This one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102034Quote:
Originally Posted by stealthbomber
I'm looking for a cheap card to vmod/oc which is the best bang for buck? 7900gs or this x1950gt ? I can get 7900gs for $105 after mir
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130056
What was your 3dmark score? can you post a link?
+121gpu/+115 mem is just insane for that card! :toast:
Yep that's the card, 1950 GT > 7900GS
X1950 Pro about on par with the 7900GT
7900GTX > 1950Pro
I didn't bother saving the 3DMark06 score (ain't registered on the site), the CPU score makes up a large percentage of the score, my E4300 at only a measly 3GHz sucks, I think I only got 5.7k lol
I think 1 or 2 of the 8 Samsung memory chips on my card is a dud, no matter what voltage I run it at there is zero gain in memory clocks over the default 1.8v, although the X1950 Pro isn't memory bandwidth limited.
My latest attempt with GPU @1.51v (measured under load), not verified 100% stable yet:
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/4...x1950gthk2.jpg
I think it's close to the limit with the aircooling setup, hitting close or breaking 750MHz on the GPU would require either water/phase change, or extremely low ambient temps!
Edit: bah damn thing blanked out after 35mins, tempted to resort to cap mods...
you're way past my old x1950pro o/c and you have a 1950gt....
well at least on the core. 641/810 was my max on the stock cooler. is there a similar mod for x1950 pro or is there no point? just get x1950gt and do the same? do you have a copy of the modded bios?
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=823766
Depends on your X1950 Pro's PCB, some cards can alter GPU voltage via bios, others require a volt mod.
I doubt my bios will work on your card as it's based on the newer PCB revision that doesn't have all the digital VRM's, many of the newer X1950GT/Pro PCB's have analog power supplies, you can't alter voltage on the fly but the analog design does run cooler.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102034
If I get this it should work. its the same one you have. Exactly what do I do? use a pencil and just scribble the resistor?
Yes just pencil in the resistors and measure resistance with DMM, you got the VMEM and the VGPU section the wrong way round on that image.
If I were you I'd try using ATI Tool to change the VGPU (if possible) on your current X1950Pro card and see how high the card can clock before deciding if it's worth getting a better cooler for your card.
This long thread might help for those with standard X1950 Pro digital VRM boards:
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=25301
lol. sorry. I'm new at this but gotta start somewhere. I sold those 1950 pros a while ago and bought my 8800gts. This is for my friend replacing his x1800xl. I was going to buy a cheap card / vmod and send to him.
thanks for your input
can i measure from any of those points? there are 4 for vgpu and 2 for vmem from the pics
i just did this mod to my 1950 pro. same pcb as the GT... 1.53v core 1.8v mem. jsut like yours i cant gain anything with raising my mem volts.
715mhz core /857mhz mem 5.7k in 3d06 with an x2 3800 @ 2.8ghz
3d 06
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=2332401
3d 05 11.79k x2 3800 @ 2.9ghz
she doesnt look like this anymore.. but she still has the blue sinks and the copper sink as well.. also i dont have my chiller hooked up to this abit mobo.. waiting on this dfi return..
are u cooling the back of the card? the mosfets?
http://a613.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...3db7e62a44.jpg
Yep heatsinks stuck on with epoxy, I don't have active cooling on the back of the card though:
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/9051/dscf0022ps2.jpg
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/5768/dscf0026rb4.jpg
I can get an open box x1950pro from newegg for the same price as a x1950gt. the mem on the pro will clock higher right or are they both 1.4ns samsung?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16814102061R
just got back from radio shack. All they had were 1kohm.
I have a multimeter at home. I'm very excited. Gonna mod my 8800gts this weekend then I'll get the x1950 started. Thanks S.B for translating the 1st image for us. .
opps here is the 3d05 link.. sorry.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=3195437
im using some of the goo that came from the stock heatsink to hold my sinks on. and it doesn't work very well. i have no sinks on the back. i have quite a few extras that i might epoxy on, and redo all the others. then i bet the memory will break the 860mhz wall im at.. even with 2.0v on the mem it wouldn't go past what i had with stock 1.8.
do you guys know if the 1950pros have a coldbug? i would only be going to -30c res temp.. chiller on the card and cheap water on the cpu.
have fun moddin it up.. what kind of cooling are you using trans?
I'm starting to suspect that maybe it's the caps on the card that is holding the clocks back.
I might try and solder 2x 16v 4700uf caps on the GPU rails to see if it improves the clocks, any tips appreciated guys ;)
Edit: backed VGPU down to 1.48v @715MHz stable for over 2 hours, memory maxed out @750MHz, looking more like a cap mod might just do the trick here.
This is fun! I have a few things I can use for cooling. i think the easiest would be my thermalright HR-03 Plus with a high CFM 120mm fan and some sinks on the bottom of the card(8800gts) and for the x1950 i have an old mcw50 I can use or a drilled/modded stock cpu heatsink I can bolt on through with some sinks. I also have a VF-900 and fan controller but not sure if that will cut the heat?Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesBong420
You'll need to fit more powerful fan on top of the VF900 to get rid of the heat fast enough if you plan to volt mod it, the VF900 base surface area is rather small.
any results yet guys????????:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :p: :p: :p: :p: :p:
My card is at 708MHz GPU running folding@home GPU client fully stable 24/7.
715MHz and 722MHz isn't good for 24/7 operation with my current aircooling, just 7 hours stable before it caps out is no good to me at those frequencies.
If I strap on a 92mm 120~CFM Vantec Tornado fan it might very well do the trick, but certainly not practical for running 24/7 considering the loud noise it generates!
I swapped out the small 60mm panaflo fan for a low noise 80mm 20~CFM panaflo, so dual 80mm on the heatsink, might replace the panaflo later for 2x 80mm 47CFM YS-Tech fans.
I ended up getting a x1950xt on newegg for $159 shipped. I figured this was the best deal I couldn't pass.
That's cheap for a X1950XT! :)
Does anybody know vmod?Not pencil mode for those sapphire x1950gt card? Any link?
You mean vmod using 500Ω pot?
Dont have to be 500Ω pot,but yes for soldering
First page diagram updated with FB pin mods.
I didnt realize :p:
Does anyone know what the dip switch on the back of this card does?
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7513/125805lu2.jpg
Just making sure before I do this, to measure the Vgpu, I have to touch both Vgpu points circled in the above picture with the positive and negative leads of my voltmeter right? (cuz usually it's touch poitive point on the video card and another touch a ground on the case) I have a Sapphire X1950GT 512MB btw. Thanks.
So how low did you shaded the resistance to? Did you just shaded it down to 6130ohms? Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rintamarotta
Update: Shaded teh Vgpu resister down to 6100ohms (stock is 6390ohms), it gave me 1.40v. I was able to get the core up to 681 (didn't do the Vmem mod yet, so the mem is still 661). But now it goes up to 81c when I game (up from 75c). I think I'll need to remove the stock fan and put a more powerful fan on.
can anyone direct or link me to the correct resistors for pencilmod on a sapphire 1950pro AGP new revision pcb?
is it like the powercolor where bridging different resistors give different vcores or is it only one resistor that needs to be changed?
does the sapphire 1950gt have the same pcb as the 1950pro AGP?