P35 DS3R + 6600 = new budget oc king, 5119Mhz, 585fsb under Dry Ice unmodded

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05-18-2007, 02:23 PM
kiwi

P35 DS3R + 6600 = new budget oc king, 5119Mhz, 585fsb under Dry Ice unmodded

P35 DS3R is a successor of 965 DS3 series. Very nice motherboard considering its rather cheap price, besides it supports next generation 45nm cpus :) It performs very similar to P5B dlx 1333 strap

Here are some results, not much optimized or tweaked, rather quick runs to test cpu/mb mhz/fsb capabilities

Setup:
Gigabyte P35 DS3R, E6600
Cellshock 2x1GB, Seasonic S12 650W PSU
Volts: All max in bios, cpu 1.8V (real ~1.72V)
Cooling: Dry Ice
No hard mods done

5119Mhz validation
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=199068

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/3029/5119zb5.jpg

Max fsb 585 (I'd say it's cpu limit, max on air 545)

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=199053

1M:
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9797/1m4927lb1.jpg

Setup:
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3...s3setupvs9.jpg

Also 32M around 11min (not very good)
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/1...m11mvb7.th.jpg
05-18-2007, 02:26 PM
C Stat B

Looks pretty sweet.
05-18-2007, 02:30 PM
Leeghoofd

Nice stuff damn I wanna trade my P5W from RMA with one of these....
05-18-2007, 02:46 PM
ineedaname

how much are 1 of these anyway?
05-18-2007, 10:55 PM
over@locker886

Good start kiwi!

and Gigabyte DDR3 support too..:cool:
05-18-2007, 11:27 PM
dinos22

what pot are you using
05-19-2007, 01:46 AM
kiwi

3'' solid copper pot, author calls it vikingpot :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ineedaname

how much are 1 of these anyway?

130€, should be around $130 in US
05-19-2007, 01:48 AM
dinos22

damn for a moment there i thought you said that pot was around that price :D
05-19-2007, 02:09 AM
Charles Wirth

Nice run, 5.1Ghz on dice is unreal, the mobo has more fsb?
05-19-2007, 02:20 AM
yotomeczek

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwi

P35 DS3R is a successor of 965 DS3 series. Very nice motherboard considering its rather cheap price, besides it supports next generation 45nm cpus :) It performs very similar to P5B dlx 1333 strap

So it is not mobo for benchmarking ?
Only High fsb at 1333 strap ?
05-19-2007, 04:37 AM
Misko

Great CPU u have kiwi :up:
05-19-2007, 04:59 AM
Nosfer@tu

Quote:

Originally Posted by yotomeczek

So it is not mobo for benchmarking ?
Only High fsb at 1333 strap ?

The P35 dosent have a strapp :)
It changes for every fsb you increase :D

very nice results :D
05-19-2007, 04:59 AM
Big SturL

Get some nitro asap.
05-19-2007, 05:06 AM
andre X_X

very nice CPU.... not too bad spi result on 1333 strap... Cool :D
05-19-2007, 05:24 AM
Nosfer@tu

Quote:

Originally Posted by over@locker886

Good start kiwi!

and Gigabyte DDR3 support too..:cool:

Does it support dd2 and DDR3 ? Nooo dont think so :confused:
05-19-2007, 05:35 AM
erwinz

WAAAAAAA... very nice results.. :D congratz man.. :D

:woot: P35 is starting to be a dream chip.. ;)
05-19-2007, 05:56 AM
kiwi

Thanks :)

This is DDR2 only, I will see if it has a strap change somewhere. It does have 3 memory optimization options - Standard, Turbo, and Extreme (or expert) but it seems that they all perform the same

And yes, cpu is nice, does stable 3.8ghz 1.5V on air/water :D
05-19-2007, 10:40 AM
over@locker886

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nosfer@tu

Does it support dd2 and DDR3 ? Nooo dont think so :confused:

Really, it only support ddr2. Sorry I said as wrong.
05-19-2007, 10:59 AM
Nosfer@tu

Quote:

Originally Posted by over@locker886

Really, it only support ddr2. Sorry I said as wrong.

Np :D
05-19-2007, 11:00 AM
Nosfer@tu

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwi

Thanks :)

This is DDR2 only, I will see if it has a strap change somewhere. It does have 3 memory optimization options - Standard, Turbo, and Extreme (or expert) but it seems that they all perform the same

And yes, cpu is nice, does stable 3.8ghz 1.5V on air/water :D

it does NOT! ;)

P35 chipset has a AUTO strap that changes to slower latanzy for every FSB you increase!
05-19-2007, 01:46 PM
Fr3ak

Great board and CPu Kiwi!

Seems like P35 boards are capable of very high FSBs. Do you have a Allendale with low multi to test the board with? Would be interesting to see how far that combo could go.
05-19-2007, 02:15 PM
4Qman

Very impressive. Especially on DICE,. KN2 soon :p:
05-19-2007, 09:42 PM
A101Sugar

Nice clocks... I think I will be going with P35 chipset.... then in June pop my Q6600 in there :)
05-20-2007, 12:54 AM
Pederrs

Really nice board and CPU!
05-20-2007, 02:06 AM
Kasparz

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwi

3'' solid copper pot, TaPaKaH calls it vikingpot :)

Edited :ROTF:
05-20-2007, 11:26 AM
kiwi

Did a bit testing, the board has a strap change at 416-417
Max fsb with lower strap is ~490

Here are results:

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/9369/strapgt7.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fr3ak

Great board and CPu Kiwi!

Seems like P35 boards are capable of very high FSBs. Do you have a Allendale with low multi to test the board with? Would be interesting to see how far that combo could go.

Thanks :)

Yes, I do have allendale but it has a wall @ ~550 on air. Need to DI cool that :D
05-20-2007, 02:39 PM
eXceeded

saw this thread title and thought hmmm DI and budget don't really work together...
05-20-2007, 02:49 PM
kiwi

What I meant was you don't need the best and most expensive board to achieve good results. The board performs just as well on air/water :)

As for DI, it is the cheapest short term xtreme cooling :D
My 1st super simple brazed pot costed me $20 + 5kg DI for $1.7/kg
05-20-2007, 04:03 PM
perry_78

Nice results from such a *cheap* solution!
05-20-2007, 04:26 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwi

Did a bit testing, the board has a strap change at 416-417
Max fsb with lower strap is ~490

Here are results:

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/9369/strapgt7.jpg

Thanks :)

Yes, I do have allendale but it has a wall @ ~550 on air. Need to DI cool that :D

so changes to 1333 strap at 417MHz?
05-21-2007, 04:33 PM
indiecom

@Kiwi : Nice result with P35 Ds3R...:)
05-22-2007, 04:39 PM
Lu523

Nice results indeed. Any chance you will show what you can do on air or water?
05-23-2007, 03:49 AM
kiwi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lu523

Nice results indeed. Any chance you will show what you can do on air or water?

cpu stability hasn't changed in comparison to p5b dlx and dfi 965 I had. It is 1.5V DMM stable @ 3.8Ghz. Max cpu fsb on water is ~545. Cooling cpu with DI breaks cpu wall by +40 in this case (I had 20-40 improvement with other cpus)

It is certainly not MB limit yet, it should do 600+ :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

so changes to 1333 strap at 417MHz?

Yes, but I'd just call it slower strap
05-24-2007, 07:25 AM
Neon Biker

Have you guys seen the DS3R review on X-bit labs? The performance on high FSB doesn't look good at all. :(
05-26-2007, 08:26 AM
luihed

Nice cpu bro....

Did you get over the cpu wall because of the board or by cooling it with dry ice? My cpu has a wall at around 555fsb on air but I havent tested it at higher fsb while using dry ice..... Im hoping sub zero temps helps in increasing the fsb wall incase I move to ln2....
05-26-2007, 11:25 AM
kiwi

Cooling cpu :)

There are 3 types of walls/limits

1. Cpu fsb wall
2. Chipset fsb wall, usually different values for 1066 and 1333 strap
3. RAM limit which might be in combination with chipset limit. The least common for D9GMH/GKX and 1:1. They easily should do 600+ with sufficient volts

Cpu wall can be braken by xtreme cooling. Usually one can gain 20+ by going to SS/DI/LN2

Chipset wall can be braken by DI/LN2 cooling chipset but gains are smaller
06-08-2007, 12:47 PM
ceemic

...is it me or isn't here any info about cooling on chip?
Any custom fan over chip? How hot is that chip compared with 650i?

BTW, nice results:up:
06-10-2007, 11:46 PM
Zannema

Nice clock :clap:
06-20-2007, 02:43 AM
carey8

Thats truley crazy. Keep it up.