crucial value ddr2-667 - budget ram!

so, i picked up a kit of 2x1gb for $120 a week ago. well.. it ended up being single rank, 8 micron D9HNL chips per stick. i was hoping for some GMH, but i guess i wasn't that lucky. i think it's fairly safe to say that most of those sticks will come with these chips, as i've seen someone else with them too, but samsung or elpida is a possibility, but i think somewhat unlikely.

anyway, i like overclocking, not talking. here goes :D
http://www.eclipseoc.com/image/memor...1gb/sticks.jpg
http://www.eclipseoc.com/image/memor...x1gb/chips.jpg


pretty non-descript value ram. :eek: :cool:


and... the results. i had a lot of fun with this. it was somewhat finicky as far as timings and drive strengths went... but voltage does next to nothing! :(

starting off, i managed to pull this off:
http://www.eclipseoc.com/image/memor...-32m-5-5-5.png


but then i found out that 3d stability was lower than 32M stability... so i started using 3dmark as well as 32m to check stability, and ended up a bit lower
http://www.eclipseoc.com/image/memor...06-5-5-5-4.png


then after much tweaking and fiddling, i arrived here:
http://www.eclipseoc.com/image/memor...x1gb/491.2.png


after concluding that i figured out what the D9HNL likes, i went ahead and started checking how it scales with voltage at several different timing sets. the mhz shown is the maximum speed that would complete 32M and 3dmark05
http://www.eclipseoc.com/image/memor...gb/scaling.png


compare that scaling chart with some of my D9GMH based stuff: (a 2x512mb ddr2-800 teamgroup kit)
http://www.eclipseoc.com/image/memor...02x1gb/vvt.png

and understand why i am dissapointed with how poorly it responds to voltage. this doesn't bode well for micron in the 2x2gb market.

2.1v and almost 500mhz? Not bad for value RAM! Not bad at all.

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Originally Posted by finaldeathh

2.1v and almost 500mhz? Not bad for value RAM! Not bad at all.

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thanks :D but, the fact that i went up to 2.4v and it DECREASED in speed upset me :lol2:

What partnumber is this ? perhaps CT2KIT12864AA667 ?

120$ for 2 gigs , it's a steal, no matter how good it scales with voltage.

I've read in another thread that this stuff will not go over 500mhz no matter how high the voltage. Crucial have been putting these chips in the UK too.
I got some D9HNH which scales better with voltage, but I have not had the chance to test yet. But I understand that people are still getting D9GMH in Norway and Sweden with their Value Ram, also in Germany I think.

I spoke to someone in China the other day and was told that D9GMH is in very short supply over there.

It looks like the D9GMH stuff is sold out in Germany aswell, but the D9HNL 2Gb kit is only 92euro. Thats a great price. If you use that ram in value gaming rigs or crunchers, that dont have to run at insane speeds, there is no better bang for the buck memory.
Weird how it scales with voltage...
Maybe those are 70nm or something?

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Originally Posted by Fr3ak

Maybe those are 70nm or something?

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I wanna say 68nm, but I'm not positive. I do know that the process size is smaller than the B6 stuff (GMH/GKX)

Jaco, it's these:
http://www.crucial.com/store/partspe...2KIT12864AA667

its most likely 70nm if not even still 80nm. I really doubt the lithography is smaller than that since 65nm and smaller need more complex production equipement

It would seem you cannot find these anymore, as they are using Samsung chips in the latest batches. Probably best place to find it is a local store that may not sell out so fast and still has the D9s on the shelf. Nice results for sub $120 kit.

An ebay power seller who i've in contact with for a while now has told me they can get me some D9GMH from Singapore. I'm not sure of the price yet though.

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It would seem you cannot find these anymore, as they are using Samsung chips in the latest batches.

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really? you've bought a kit in the last week to know that they've switched to samsung already? ;)
i got these straight from crucial's store, ordered it on tuesday night, the 3rd.. :D

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An ebay power seller who i've in contact with for a while now has told me they can get me some D9GMH from Singapore. I'm not sure of the price yet though.

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appx 120€ for 2x1gb :D

i know cause i got few kits :toast:

This is what I've arrived in my mail two days ago :D

http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/803/dsc00544jr4.jpg

http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/3691/dsc00546up6.jpg

.... and yes, it's a pair of 512MBs .... no 1GBs since I don't really need them (just using my pc for normal works and very little gaming)

I am yet to test them coz still playing around with my TeamXtreem. Apparently one of the stick was very good (581mhz 5-5-5-5 @ 1.9v, cpu limited), but the other one was crappy (484mhz 5-5-5-5 @ 1.9v :mad:)... and both sticks runs 500mhz 4-4-4-5 @ 2.2v.

Gonna test my Crucials by today :banana:

nice :up:

it's a good thing they can't use D9HNL for 512mb sticks... i would like to see them make a 256mbit density revD die though (double rank 512mb sticks), that would kick some SERIOUS ass :eek:

I got a pair of D9HNH on Crucial Value PC4200 several days ago.

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I got a pair of D9HNH on Crucial Value PC4200 several days ago.

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I have these too superray, can you please test as I can not atm as I do not have a motherboard,I am dying to know what they can do.

Crucial value ddr2-667 (D9GMH)
Pi31M, 510MHz CL5-5-5-15 2T @ 1.8V
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1...ial1cs1.th.png

further testing will be done tomorrow.... I'm darn sleepy right now

fakhrain dont tell me on am2 system?

why not

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can you please test as I can not atm as I do not have a motherboard,I am dying to know what they can do.

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D9HNH aren't very nice clockable. I have heard from some people that they do not scale with higher voltage. Results around 375Mhz, not much more:rolleyes:

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I have these too superray, can you please test as I can not atm as I do not have a motherboard,I am dying to know what they can do.

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It's funny that you don't have a motherboard right now and I don't have a CPU.:D
I don't think they are good overclockers.

A lot of Norwegians have bought these sticks, and almost everyone got D9GMH. Seen people running 4gigs@1200MHz 5-5-5-15 2,2/3V prime and memtest stable. Had a pair myself, didn't push them, but managed 1000mhz 5-5-5-15 easy.

Now they retail for 900kr, which directly converted is about 150$, but in real monetary value is more like 80-90$. THIS IS TWO GIGS OF D9GMH I'M TALKING ABOUT :D

SINGLE SIDED!

WOW

nice...

should be easy on memory controllers...

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fakhrain dont tell me on am2 system?

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*just woke up*

yes it is :D

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D9HNH aren't very nice clockable. I have heard from some people that they do not scale with higher voltage. Results around 375Mhz, not much more:rolleyes:

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I read somewhere that a few people oc these things upto 450Mhz@ 1.87v, and someone else oc to 533Mhz@2.2v. 5.5.5.12 i think. I don't think they oc as high as D9GMH but not too bad for value ram.
If these sticks fail to reach a good FSB then i will just sell on ebay and buy from Singapore, I have 4x1mb of D9GMH waiting for me for a really good price.

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It's funny that you don't have a motherboard right now and I don't have a CPU.:D
I don't think they are good overclockers.

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I have just sold my LanpartyUT 3200CFX/DR, Opteron 146 and DDR.
I have just got hold of a 'B' step E6600. So i am just waiting for a DFI Infinity P965-S (waiting forever):mad:. I only buy DFI, hence my name "DFI pit bull", the DFI boards atm really suck.

Well, my wifes little brother did get D9GMH chips version of these:
http://www.alternate.de/html/product...l?artno=IBIEC6
Not bad, I have top take some photos of them and try some overclocking.
They might be motherboard restricted cos they are installed on Abit F-I90HD and with E4300 CPU.

I don't think the US ones are coming with D9 anymore. I'm too afraid to order them! If I get stuck with samsung or something, then I wasted $125. I don't even need anymore ram, but I'd pay that to have some D9's.

-Collin-

Little update from me....

564mhz 5-5-5-15-2T @ 2.19V (BIOS set at 2.2V)

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2...555219vvy3.png

Wich CT of 533 has d9gmh?

looks like the 2x512mb do, while the 2x1gb is something else.

Did some testing with tohse cheap D9GMH´s...
http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/bull...1M_22.232s.jpg
http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/bull..._4m17.766s.jpg
http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/bull...19m33.367s.jpg
http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/bull...GHz_Orthos.jpg

I will test more after real graphics card is installed.