8600GTS Real Benches from an Aussie

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Originally Posted by Aussie
With drivers supplied on cd:

E6600
250gb 16mb cache Sata 3gb/sec
2gb 6400 Gskill ram

3dMark06...
Main Test Results

3DMark Score 5542 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score 2284 Marks
SM 3.0 Score 2036 Marks
CPU Score 2605 Marks

Detailed Test Results

Graphics Tests
1 - Return to Proxycon 17.534 FPS
2 - Firefly Forest 20.532 FPS

CPU Tests
CPU1 - Red Valley 0.834 FPS
CPU2 - Red Valley 1.302 FPS

HDR Tests
1 - Canyon Flight (SM 3.0) 18.063 FPS
2 - Deep Freeze (SM 3.0) 22.653 FPS

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:) http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum...m?t=715719&p=1

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8600GTS

Just picked it up, whim me for shop!!!

Got to stuff it in my pc and run some benchies!


http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/7...9proyr9cr1.jpg





With drivers supplied on cd:

E6600
250gb 16mb cache Sata 3gb/sec
2gb 6400 Gskill ram

3dMark06...
Main Test Results

3DMark Score 5542 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score 2284 Marks
SM 3.0 Score 2036 Marks
CPU Score 2605 Marks

Detailed Test Results

Graphics Tests
1 - Return to Proxycon 17.534 FPS
2 - Firefly Forest 20.532 FPS

CPU Tests
CPU1 - Red Valley 0.834 FPS
CPU2 - Red Valley 1.302 FPS

HDR Tests
1 - Canyon Flight (SM 3.0) 18.063 FPS
2 - Deep Freeze (SM 3.0) 22.653 FPS



Max temp with fans PELTING (stock) was ~70c with ATI tool stress test... This thing could do with some aftermarket methinks!

After adding Zalman VF900cu (fit perfectly with 7600gt holes and settings) at high speed, max temp at stock settings came to 50c.

So I overclocked...

With core at 715, and memory at 1110, 3dmark06 score was 5847 Marks , with temps JUST touching 55c.

I've now dropped it to 710 and 1100, with idle temp 40c and max about 52-53.





http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/4...0gtsep4tp1.jpg



http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum...s.cfm?t=715719

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Stock

3DMark Score 5542 3DMarks

SM 2.0 Score 2284 Marks

SM 3.0 Score 2036 Marks

CPU Score 2605 Marks

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Overclocked (705 core // 1145mhz Ram)

3DMark Score 5654 3DMarks

SM 2.0 Score 2342 Marks

SM 3.0 Score 2079 Marks

CPU Score 2603 Marks

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Delta Stock -> OC

3DMark Score +112 3DMarks

SM 2.0 Score +58 Marks

SM 3.0 Score +43Marks

CPU Score -2 Marks

Perhaps the memory is holding your card back... I'm surprised that overclocking yielded so little performance.

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MAX OC w/ Zalman VF900 >> 715Mhz core // 1145Mhz memory :

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720 gave me a little green dot on the fuzzy cube when "scanning for artifacts".

I just tried the memory. Got up to 1155 (with find max mem), then cube turned into a big yellow square, with something about direct x not matching?



(Stock settings with stock cooler got to 70c)

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:bsod: :bsod: :D


regards

Slow.. :(

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Originally Posted by NickS

Slow.. :(

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It is supposed to replace the 7600GT, what did you expect?

Does this mean that shops will start selling the card early or that particular shop that just sold the card will get in trouble?

/nV ninjas will raid the shop?

These could be some fun buggers to OC :D

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Originally Posted by [cTx]yaddam205

It is supposed to replace the 7600GT, what did you expect?

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Something equivalent to my X1900GT Rev. 1 :rolleyes: :slap:

128-bit memory is holding that card back Big time, and nvidia knows it, the 8600gts has a ~12% core clock advantage, but a 40% memclock increase over the 8600GT (assuming gt:700, gts:1000). doesn't clock as high as I'd expect.

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Originally Posted by NickS

Something equivalent to my X1900GT Rev. 1 :rolleyes: :slap:

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Well, I think you got that, at the very least.

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Originally Posted by Cybercat

Well, I think you got that, at the very least.

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http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=6095

Think again. That's with my 24/7 CPU clock and fairly low GPU clocks (can do 735/855 bench stable).

Games will decide this...we all know that.

Perkam

Well my SM3 clobbers the 8600's, but I get beat slightly in SM2.

looks to me that the 8600gts will be very good in SM2. SM3 doesn't look so great.

Just looking at regular overclocks...

8600gts OC (coolaler)
SM2: 2700
SM3: 2400

x1900gt OC (NickS)
SM2: 2260
SM3: 2530

Edit: NickS beat me to it...I was trying to see if the same pattern occurs in the 8800 products, it does not.

Very strange...Wonder if it's a driver bug?

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Originally Posted by NickS

http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=6095

Think again. That's with my 24/7 CPU clock and fairly low GPU clocks (can do 735/855 bench stable).

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And here I was expecting something like 7k+. Have you seen the VR-Zone article?

Maybe tonight I'll do some cold 06 runs for the fun of it, see if I can get near 6.8k or so. :p:

well, its better than a 7900gt, most ppl didnt expect that much by looking at the specs.

nVidia 7600GT was also slow when it came out, compared to the (previous generation) high-end in that time. 8600GT has the performance you should expect for an mid-range card, nothing less or more.

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Originally Posted by Cybercat

And here I was expecting something like 7k+. Have you seen the VR-Zone article?

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The thing is buddy, most people don't really count the V-mods or Shamino's slick and nasty cooling as an even comparison.

Granted, I do agree they should play a role considering how easy the mods are, and most people 'round here will use nice air or wawa on their cards...Still. If you do count that article (mods/cooling), the 8600gts is a pretty nice card and is comparable or exceeding last gen's performance parts...Of course you'd also have take into account the 7900gs can be conductive ink modded as well and give a slightly better score.

It's pretty mucky. I think it comes down to if you want DX10 support, and the question of how it will perform using it. If it does reasonable, I think it will have it's place for replacing the current ~$200 cards.

Well, this is XS, so I'm at least expecting stock cooling to be out of the question. Still even if you take volt mods out of account, ~6100 is within the capabilities of the 8600GTS. It really is a small difference, and like Perkam says, it's the games that matter anyway.

Well, now we know.

http://vr-zone.com/?i=4883

So basically a vmodded 7900GT stomps a mudhole in the 8600GTS' aszz.

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Originally Posted by Cybercat

Well, this is XS, so I'm at least expecting stock cooling to be out of the question. Still even if you take volt mods out of account, ~6100 is within the capabilities of the 8600GTS. It really is a small difference, and like Perkam says, it's the games that matter anyway.

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the scores on the topic was with zalman vf900 ,with stok cooling and default clocks the card reach 70c


with zalman vf900 max clocks = 715/1145

And the problem i see its not the OC , its the score , form default clocks to OC 715/1145 only ~200 points

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Stock

3DMark Score 5542 3DMarks

SM 2.0 Score 2284 Marks

SM 3.0 Score 2036 Marks

CPU Score 2605 Marks

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Overclocked (705 core // 1145mhz Ram)

3DMark Score 5654 3DMarks

SM 2.0 Score 2342 Marks

SM 3.0 Score 2079 Marks

CPU Score 2603 Marks

----------------------------------* -----------

Delta Stock -> OC

3DMark Score +112 3DMarks

SM 2.0 Score +58 Marks

SM 3.0 Score +43Marks

CPU Score -2 Marks

Perhaps the memory is holding your card back... I'm surprised that overclocking yielded so little performance.

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MAX OC w/ Zalman VF900 >> 715Mhz core // 1145Mhz memory (5847 Marks)

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720 gave me a little green dot on the fuzzy cube when "scanning for artifacts".

I just tried the memory. Got up to 1155 (with find max mem), then cube turned into a big yellow square, with something about direct x not matching?



(Stock settings with stock cooler got to 70c)

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Btw: In Games seems Better than in Benchmakrs (3Dmark)

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http://resources.vr-zone.com.sg/Shamino/86gts/1.jpg

http://resources.vr-zone.com.sg/Shamino/86gts/2.jpg

http://resources.vr-zone.com.sg/Shamino/86gts/3.jpg



In terms of overclocking, both are overclocking masters when overclocked the "professional" way... But close to 60% headroom can be garnered on the 7900GTbut "only" about 35%on the 8600GTS. For how well this card overclocks, http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4883

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7900GT performence ( a litle better) with DX10 , Not BAD for 200$



reagrds

nah...id still get a x1950pro instead which is dirt cheap and still faster

for 200$ I rather have an X1950XT, it will smoke the 8600GTS.

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Originally Posted by mascaras

the scores on the topic was with zalman vf900 ,with stok cooling and default clocks the card reach 70c


with zalman vf900 max clocks = 715/1145

And the problem i see its not the OC , its the score , form default clocks to OC 715/1145 only ~200 points






MAX OC w/ Zalman VF900 >> 715Mhz core // 1145Mhz memory (5847 Marks)








Btw: In Games seems Better than in Benchmakrs (3Dmark)




7900GT performence ( a litle better) with DX10 , Not BAD for 200$



reagrds

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Note that this is a 8600GTS overclocked @ max with after market cooler VS 7900GT @ 450/660 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, who runs a GT at those speeds @ XS :stick:

i was expecting something more from this card...curious of what will be on Dx10 :D

The guy who owns thi is trying to sell it for $450 AUD lol

its no more than 7900GT with stock clocks! only advantage is DX10 no anything more!

Lol whirlpool forums :p:

Still, id rather get a 7900GS and mod it... By the time DX10 games come out, the 8600GTS will run them like ass, unless you turn down the settings.

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Originally Posted by oohms

Lol whirlpool forums :p:

Still, id rather get a 7900GS and mod it... By the time DX10 games come out, the 8600GTS will run them like ass, unless you turn down the settings.

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Exactly, Dx10 might as well not even be implemented on low end cards and the 8600 is a low end not mid range card IMHO

I can see Nvidia getting spanked by the 1950** cards in this range and maybe slaughtered by the new ATI/AMD offerings :slapass:


oh and whirrrlypool, what a bad joke :fact: :stick: :slapass: :D

http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles...?cid=3&id=2231

If retail card will work on 675 MHz for core, why the hell NVIDIA is leaking cards overclocked by default?

They just look worse?

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Originally Posted by Nedjo

http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles...?cid=3&id=2231

If retail card will work on 675 MHz for core, why the hell NVIDIA is leaking cards overclocked by default?

They just look worse?

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it could be Evga super clocked or XFX xxx edition but they can not say ,,,,,,,, like the GTS 320MB it is hard to find an Evga factory clocked card reviewed all are super clocked

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Originally Posted by mascaras

the scores on the topic was with zalman vf900 ,with stok cooling and default clocks the card reach 70c


with zalman vf900 max clocks = 715/1145

And the problem i see its not the OC , its the score , form default clocks to OC 715/1145 only ~200 points

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What Shamino has to say about that:

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Originally Posted by Hutch1ns

Impressive. Is that thing bandwidth starved? 200 pts gain in 06 from 740mhz to 1ghz...

Do you think the ram will hit ALOT faster? The 7600GT uses 128-bit also but the ram can run much faster.

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Originally Posted by Shamino

yas got the wrong idea, 7k is at 920 mhz core... see the 3d perf clock, i didnt link 2d and 3d clocks togetehr at that run.

7.2k @ 965mhz core... but yes, mem bandwidth really kicks in at 800mhz core. 05 gains a lot more from mem clocks... 06 rather equal..

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Curious to see how these things actually perform out in the wild when overclocked to a decent level. I think the worldpool results are slightly different than what to expect from XS folk.