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DFI roadmap through Q4 2007
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Make sure to add 4 months to each one, as dictated by DFI protocol.
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So Intel will still be using crossfire after all in its upcoming chipsets.
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Yep, Crossfire and physics (APP) support. :)
I'd personally say it's more like a month or two, knowing DFI. It seems like when they plan a launch date is usually when the samples start to appear, with availability trickling a month or so later. I do feel your pain though on DFI's launches which leave a lot to be desired...I want my DFI P35 ASAP so I can finally upgrade my rig. :D That being said, whenever the P35 boards launch, the DX10 battle between between AMD and Nvidia should finally be sorted out with prices evening out on the R(v)6xx series...So I suppose that isn't a terrible thing.
I wonder what the price difference between the INF and LP will be...The Inf P965 looks pretty sexay, hopefully the p35 will follow suit. I wouldn't mind giving up the LP color scheme and extras in my next build if it's on par bios/performance-wise with what they did with the P965.
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where'd you see yellow? I must be overlooking it. If'n it's true, I'll take it.
Ryan
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FghtinIrshNvrDi
where'd you see yellow? I must be overlooking it. If'n it's true, I'll take it.
Ryan
RX780 for AM2+ - Yellow PCB.
P35-T2 (low-end) - Yellow PCB
Granted, the RX780 looks pretty neutered next to the 790, and the Infinity and Lan Party P35's look much more appealing.
Safe guess to say AM2+ is launching in September? Makes sense to me DFI would try to launch the 790 alongside AMD's new cpus.
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That Lanparty X38 with DDR2 looks real good. That is if they can get it to market within a reasonable timeframe after the chipset launch. It's good to know that we'll be able to use our expensive DDR2 for a long while before DDR3 becomes mainstream. I'd always thought the X38 was DDR3 only. Good stuff Turtle thanks for posting :)
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no quad FX board.....:mad:
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grrr, they need to get the bios working for their current AM2 board before even thinking about launching new ones :fact:
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ozzimark
grrr, they need to get the bios working for their current AM2 board before even thinking about launching new ones :fact:
The nf590? Worked great for me (albeit a rather low max FSB, apparently common among that chipset among any manufacturer), though I have seen other people with issues so that may have been a fluke. In any case DFI has always been a bit behind everyone else on release dates....they almost have to given the size difference when compared to larger companies. The Infinity series has been strong of late, and even though the RD600 was a bit late the LP line has continued to be excellent (though perhaps not the best of prices...) so I hope they continue and put some though into the design of their new boards.
7 new Lanparty series boards this year though? Seems rather high, even considering a couple variations on each. I'd think 7 boards TOTAL from DFI would seem about on par honestly.
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technodanvan
The nf590? Worked great for me
oh, don't get me wrong, i love the board. the bios just has some... quirks that drive me insane....
have you ever been able to change DQS Skew with even a moderate overclock? or even at stock? no boot here... except for some very rare cases
have you tried <8x cpu multi? for some reason, my sempron defaults back to 9x when i use anything below 8x
the latest beta bios, my 4000+ ONLY runs at 10x, no matter what i set it to
why is stock multi + 0.5x visible?
2.10v option is labeled 2.00v
and other such oddities. easy work arounds for most of the stuff i come across, it's just one of those things where you can tell that very little time was put into making sure the bios is actually solid
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looks a bit weird mcp72 can be high end.
Can you send this presentation to my email? it would be nice to see it completely
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My predicament is bordering on hillarious now... I've been waiting for a few months for the LP 680i board and the Q6600 price drop and now based on this information, I'm considering just holding out for Yorkfield, X38 and DDR3.
Hanging out on a bleeding edge forum actually retards your computer upgrade schedule! :hitself:
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Hehe, I feel your pain virtualrain, I'm in the same situation myself!
That roadmap is "optimistic" to say the least. DFI releasing two LP boards on each of the two new Intel chipsets within 4 months of each other?! No chance.
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Interesting boards. The 650i could be a nice performer for the money. Too bad they are behind schedule. I would want that board now :(
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metro.cl
looks a bit weird mcp72 can be high end.
Can you send this presentation to my email? it would be nice to see it completely
Why is it weird? MCP72, from my understanding is this, although not mentioned in the slides:
SLI, Ultra, and IGP variants (Probably 2x16 + 1x8, 2x8, and 1x16 models)
AM2+ (Agena etc)
HT3
PCI-E 2.0
6 SATA
dual ethernet
It has all makings of the next iteration of Nvidia's high through low-end chipset.
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I wonder what the differences between the T2R and T3Rs are....same chipset, only a few months difference, why would they need two versions?
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Vapor
I wonder what the differences between the T2R and T3Rs are....same chipset, only a few months difference, why would they need two versions?
T2R is ddr2 and T3R is ddr3
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Vapor
I wonder what the differences between the T2R and T3Rs are....same chipset, only a few months difference, why would they need two versions?
T2R supports DDR2 and T3R supports DDR3, thats the difference between them.
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Dang both P35 boards have "Special heatpipe structure".
And I thought at least DFI had clear mind... it seems they are smoking whatever ASUS smokes.
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Guys, it's not a mistake!
the timeline shows APR MAY JAN JULY
As we all know of DFI's tardiness, maybe that isn't a typo and the release date is JAN 2008!!! :)
make sense to me. that way there will be a nice 8 month gap between two LP boards. :)
ok ok, it might be a typo... but who knows.
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xoqolatl
Dang both P35 boards have "Special heatpipe structure".
And I thought at least DFI had clear mind... it seems they are smoking whatever ASUS smokes.
I only see it on the LP, not the Infinity or Yellow Fever Plain Jane P35. I think the INF will most likely keep the single big sink on the NB, but that's just conjecture on my part.
Yeah..Another reason the INF looks to top my list...I could live without the massive interconnected heat pipe thinger-ma-doodle that is surely what they're talking about. Who knows though, maybe DFI will pull it off better. Guess we'll see when someone snaps some pictures in Taipei in a couple months, or maybe they'll shock us all and launch it around then. :eek:
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shimmishim
Guys, it's not a mistake!
the timeline shows APR MAY JAN JULY
As we all know of DFI's tardiness, maybe that isn't a typo and the release date is JAN 2008!!! :)
make sense to me. that way there will be a nice 8 month gap between two LP boards. :)
ok ok, it might be a typo... but who knows.
Lol. Very, very true. On a side note, ever gotten an e-mail from the TW DFI guys? It obvious to see why their power points have grammatical and spelling errors. They are very forthcoming with information though (if you can get through the engrish) which is nice. :)
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RFC Rudel
no quad FX board.....:mad:
I'm betting they're waiting on socket F+ before making one.
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Could you post the slides of: Infinity P35 T3, LanParty MCP72 and Infinity MCP72 ?
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Man screw the 965p board then if the P35 boards are that close.
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doompc
Could you post the slides of: Infinity P35 T3, LanParty MCP72 and Infinity MCP72 ?
I posted all the slides in the powerpoint minus the overview slides (Just platform and available chipsets) and P965 slides, because we already have approx 29,600 threads on it.
To clear things up though, the Infinity P35 T3 is obviously the INF P35 T2, except with DDR3 support. I imagine nothing else will drastically change, just like the X38 T2/T3.
Lan Party/Infinity MCP72 are more than likely approx the same specs as the Intel 680/650 boards, but allowing for AM2+ specs since it's an AMD chipset plus pci-e 2.0. Specs for that chipset are in one of my earlier posts. Just take the Infinity/LP specs (6 vs 8 phase, etc) that are on both the INF vs LP P35 and 680/650, note the differences between the 680 and 650, change the specs to that of MCP72, and you can pretty much deduce what I think they'll be.
I agree btw...While that P965 board looks sweet, screw it with P35 so close. That's why I had to see if they were coming soon, or would be delayed like their past boards making an intermediate jump to 965 worth it. Signs point to P35 coming along ok, so I, for one, will be waiting it out so I can drop in a wolfdale/yorkfield later on without having to switch boards. I'm lazy like that.
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TEDY
what is P35 ?
Its the successor to Intel 975-965 chipsets
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Originally Posted by
TEDY
what is P35 ?
P35 is the successor to P965 (1x16 slot, and 1x4 slot)
Official 1333 FSB support (yay, 1333 strap)
Adds PCI-E 2.0 and a couple USB ports.
45nm cpu support where-as P965/975's compatibility is uncertain.
DDR2-800 and DDR3-1066 memory support (boards specific, but both are supported by MCH)
Uses ICH9(R) southbridge, with whatever goodies/improvements that holds over ICH8(R).
It's essentially X38's little brother. X38 is the successor to 975x with the above improvements along with 2x16 and apparently 1x4 slots.
Boards from some companies are expected as early as late this month or early next. Intel plans to launch them at Computex at the beginning of June. So if DFI actually sticks to their schedule, they might actually be on time for release with the other companies.
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Thanks for clarifying Turtle.
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Kanten
Make sure to add 4 months to each one, as dictated by DFI protocol.
was about to ask if this riamdap takes into account the dfi default delay? :D
on a serious note: what about 1600fsb?
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The new Intel chipsets support Penryn, and Penryn is supposedly 1600fsb, so I imagine they must support it (perhaps through a bios update if not from the start?). It's not on any roadmaps I've seen for the chipset, but either is Penryn being 1600...Only seen that at Teh Inq.
In all seriousness though, I don't see how that'd be a problem. If the circuitry of p965/975x boards allows for penryn, even it shouldn't have a problem. They can all hit 400FSB can't they? Couldn't it be done through a bios update easily on those boards as well?
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What I am wondering is if they will release a board that has support for both DDR3 and DDR2, like the upcoming MSI P35 Platinum D3 that was on show at Cebit.
I'm not going to use all 4 memory-slots, so why don't they make a P35 or X38 LanParty / Infinity with support for both (so 2 slots DDR2 and 2 slots DDR3) instead of making one for DDR3 and one for DDR2.
It just doesn't make any sense, I want support for both on 1 board! :rolleyes:
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L1m1t.NL
What I am wondering is if they will release a board that has support for both DDR3 and DDR2, like the upcoming MSI P35 Platinum D3 that was on show at Cebit.
I'm not going to use all 4 memory-slots, so why don't they make a P35 or X38 LanParty / Infinity with support for both (so 2 slots DDR2 and 2 slots DDR3) instead of making one for DDR3 and one for DDR2.
It just doesn't make any sense, I want support for both on 1 board! :rolleyes:
Why? In my opinion, if you have a heavy investment in DDR2, you are going to want to max-out the life span of it and by the time you have exhausted it and are ready to make the jump to DDR3, there will likely be all kinds of other reasons to upgrade your motherboard as well.
Although hybrid boards sound good and may make some people feel better about the migration, in the end, I can't imagine many people making the switch without a whole-sale platform change.
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virtualrain
Why? In my opinion, if you have a heavy investment in DDR2, you are going to want to max-out the life span of it and by the time you have exhausted it and are ready to make the jump to DDR3, there will likely be all kinds of other reasons to upgrade your motherboard as well.
Although hybrid boards sound good and may make some people feel better about the migration, in the end, I can't imagine many people making the switch without a whole-sale platform change.
I agree, yet I don't. One's things for sure, DFI seems to agree with you.
I plan on going 4x1gb DDR2 when I make the jump, but I could surely see some people that may want to go 2x1gb DDR2 now, and 2x2GB DDR3 in the future, and a board like that could be one more incentive for grabbing p35 and not having to change platforms or motherboards until post-penryn.
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DFI has January TWICE A YEAR ROFL :D
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dinos22
DFI has January TWICE A YEAR ROFL :D
LOL! Problem is, that when they say they are going to deliver something in January, it's more like January only comes in leap years! :rolleyes:
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turtle
I agree, yet I don't. One's things for sure, DFI seems to agree with you.
I plan on going 4x1gb DDR2 when I make the jump, but I could surely see some people that may want to go 2x1gb DDR2 now, and 2x2GB DDR3 in the future, and a board like that could be one more incentive for grabbing p35 and not having to change platforms or motherboards until post-penryn.
Why not get a P35 board and 4GB of DDR3 right out of the gate? It will cost you an arm and a leg, but the 4GB of DDR2 will cost you an arm anyway, and by the time you are ready to upgrade, it will still cost a leg for the DDR3 so why not get the surgery over with now? :p:
You and I are probably in a similar situation (runing DDR right now?)... if so, don't you think it's worth waiting and skipping DDR2 altogether?
It's either that, or invest in Q6600 and DDR2 now and then be one of the last to adopt DDR3 instead of one of the first. Those are my only two choices really.
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Grave digging but are there any news on the release date of Dfi Lanparty X38-t3r? Shoukd be next month according to the early schedule.
