Msi P6n Sli-fi

I will be providing results and information with this new 650i board. Its the least expensive of all the 650i offers, I got it when it was $111 on newegg (and no thats not open box). However, I will need some help though, because none of my temperature readings are right, and cpu-z is even reading things wrong. If anyone knows of a version of cpu-z that works correctly on this chipset, or core temp, let me know and ink it. Cpu-z keeps jumping from 1800x9 to 1200x6, and core temp and speedfan both show my temps at 2c/2c.

Processor is E4300, will start clocking and show results as I go. What should all my chipset/fsb and whatnot voltages be set at. My 1st goal is 2.7ghz, because
thats where I hear you have to start pumping up the cpu voltage.

Go into BIOS and disable EIST and C1E, this is the cause of the multiplier changing, basically ramps the MHz down in idle to save power.

Disable if OCing too.

Ok, did that, now its showing the multi staying at 6, and every time I boot it shows me message "200mhz system bus processor detected, this cpu is not supported by this board and system performance will be impacted". Holy S, does this mean 800mhz fsb processors arent supported? Should I jut go ahead and do the pin mod?

Use cpu-z version 1.38 with this board, it displays information properly, 1.39 does not. Also, core temp seems to be working better now, but doesnt seem to move from 2c until things start to heat up. Maybe this chipset doesnt report lower temps very well.

maybe thats what happens when you buy the cheapest mobo. ;)

Yuck it up pal, if it weren't for adventurers like me, who would have ever known about boards like the Asrock Dual Sata, tForce 6100?

i have the board too and it runs my 800mhz P4 well.
i like this board, nice for ramclocking and low on the Vdroop

Will have to be a very good board for it to beat the P5N.

However if it doesnt have the vdroop issues that the P5N has then it could be a winner :)

how great is the vdrop under prime any results here ?

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Originally Posted by bigghost

how great is the vdrop under prime any results here ?

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on my system Vcore droped from 1.28V to 1.27V with Orthos Small FFT test.
readings are from speedfan so they might be off. if they are correct this board is getting more awesome :D

Cpu-z shows my voltage jumping all over, between 1.328 and 1.424. Speedfan shows it between 1.33 and 1.42. I hope this is software just being silly, because cpu-z 1.39 didnt even work right with this board, showed my multi at 6 even though it was locked at 9. Using 1.38 right now. What are you NB/SB/FSB voltages at? I'm at 300x9 right now, took me a while to get into windows at this speed.

ahh seems still has poor vdroop

never held out much hope for a msi board lol

What's the voltage options like on this board?

NB goes to 1.5V
SB 1.7 Volt
Vdimm does an incredible 2.8V


@op1e, cpuz 1.39 work fine for me, only the Vcore read out is way off.
i use 1.25NB, 1.5SB, 1.9V Vdimm, 101 PCIe freq and FSB VTT 0%

I'll check the max when I get back into the bios. I'm pretty sure the voltage thing is just cpu being dodgy. Speedfan shows a constant 1.46 under orthos load, while cpu-z shows 1.2. This system wouldnt get through a minute of orthos at that voltage, and it just passed the Self Test 8k. Voltage seems to be solid at load, but fluctuates at idle. I much prefer that to the other way around. Another thing I notice is my 12v rails seem better on this setup. Multiple apps showed my 12v dipp down to 11.71 on my DFI Infinity/opty165.
Three different apps show it at 12.23 now.

hey whats the highest fsb that you guys have gotten with this board and what does the vcore go up to

thanks

if im not mistaken Vcore is + 0.4V.
and ask op1e for fsb, the option to lower multi in the bios doesnt work well.
i can only lower to 14 multi so i'll never hit high fsb with this cpu

I chnged multi to 8 and nothing happened, showed 8 in bios and 9 in windows. Cant for the life of me get into windows at anything over 2.7. Tried maxing vcore and NB, nothing. Maybe I need to raise FSB voltage. Also, what should cpu/ldt spread spectrum be set to, disabled? Running out of ideas an patience right now. I'm guessing this board doesnt like e4300 till bios update. Maybe I should try FSB mod on this chip.

UPDATE

Just took it all apart again and did the 1066 mod with conductive pen. Booted right up at 2.4. Will post max clock with mod shortly.

Waiting :)

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Originally Posted by NickS

Waiting :)

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:toast: keep us posted

Finally broke the 2700mhz barrier this setup was giving me. Takes a hard boot though, just like the old Dual Sata used to with the first ocwb1 bios. Had to shut off psu and then fire up. Unfortunately my water block is not making good enough contact and I gotta tear this whole thing apart again. Waiting for a back plate to come in the mail, so I'm just using nuts atm.

The pin mod really did the trick. This board will need a bios update to overclock the e4xxx series past 300 FSB. Now starting to get a respectable overclock, and I dont see any vdroop in cpu-z or speed fan. The motherboard must have some kind of energy saving feature or something that undervolts at idle, because once orthos is running i never see it move. Self Test 8k passed and moving up.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...xeven/3150.jpg

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Originally Posted by op1e

Yuck it up pal, if it weren't for adventurers like me, who would have ever known about boards like the Asrock Dual Sata, tForce 6100?

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sorry my bad mate. ;) you take me wrong bud only meant it as a joke. :D
its good you are willing to try out the more obscure motherboards, hopefully you will get it running better with a little tweaking.:toast:

edit:didnt see the above post, nice going.

this boards needs a Bios update and quick!

op1e what tool do you use for temp/voltyage monitoring, this default MSI corecell is giving me a hard time :stick:

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Originally Posted by zert

this boards needs a Bios update and quick!

op1e what tool do you use for temp/voltyage monitoring, this default MSI corecell is giving me a hard time :stick:

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You see em above, speedfan and coretemp get same results. That PC Alert is garbage. It'll be fine, and all the sudden an alarm will go off and it will show your cpu temp at 255c and go into a countdown to shut off your pc.

Also, I've tried twice to boot at 1500 and its failed, requiring a cmos reset to do anything. I've gone from 1487 to 1491 to see where the wall is, but at any of those it shows the same clock (372x9=3353). I've heard about a 370 wall with these chips, but I've also seen many do over 3400mhz.

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sorry my bad mate. ;) you take me wrong bud only meant it as a joke. :D
its good you are willing to try out the more obscure motherboards, hopefully you will get it running better with a little tweaking.:toast:

edit:didnt see the above post, nice going.

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NP, sometimes you do get what you pay for, but right now I think I got lucky.

Thanks for the results! It may just be the budget overclocker. A new bios definitely seems like it's needed, though.

Kudos to another adventurer (I also owned the ASRock fairly early on).

400x9 1.46. NB maxed at 1.5, shows 1.34 in speedfan (weird). 100% oc!!!!!!!!!
Looks like we've got ourself a good egg here. Cant test max fsb, multi wont change in bios with this chip, at least not to 8, havent tried 7 yet. Ran a GRAW server online for 2 hours with CV buddies at these settings, running orthos overnite now with Large in place ffts. Next up tomorrow will be maxing the ram, and hopefully it can do what has been reviewed here...
http://www.virtual-hideout.net/revie...0/index2.shtml

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Originally Posted by op1e

400x9 1.46. NB maxed at 1.5, shows 1.34 in speedfan (weird).

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agreed, every prog to check temps and voltages gives you different values. if you have a DMM please check. pc Alert4 seems to work ok for me as long as i shut the low rpm warning off. corecell is just plain awfull. coretemp doesnt work on non-c2d afaik.

so far i like the board, its only low on voltage options and the readout is f:banana: :banana: :banana: ed

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Originally Posted by mrbungle

ahh seems still has poor vdroop

never held out much hope for a msi board lol

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I never held out much hope for people who judge voltage fluctuations without proper equipment such as a multimeter.

Hey guys... it looks like MSI hid the C1E option in the BIOS, so if you haven't found it already...

- go to the CPU Features page
- hit F4
- disable C1E
- make sure EIST is also disabled (elsewhere in the BIOS)

...that should cure some of what you're seeing as 'vdroop' and give you some more overclocking headroom.

Here's another thread that may be of interest.

Cheers.

Thats good to hear, didnt know that. BTW, how do you shut off that stupid rpm alarm, I cant find any options in that stupid app, and I dont like that it gives you 1 cpu temp. Does it read an average of the 2 cores? Came home today and rambed the fsb just a little more, but wouldnt boot without reset. Gonna max the ram out before I get my cpu back up. Will post ddr timings and hopefully 3700 mhz screenshot next with orthos selft test 8k passed.

No idea on the alarm... my Platinum board just arrived today, but my case doesn't arrive until tomorrow (sigh). So everything from me so far has just been from research or speculation... hopefully I'll have some first-hand experience to talk about starting tomorrow :).

Did disabling C1E calm down the vdroop issue?

No real difference in overclock. I must have had things real cold last nite, cause I'm having a hard time getting that 400x9 back. Have reset cmos a dozen times today. Another issue I'm having is I cant max this ram. Should do 1000mhz 4-4-4-12 2.5v, but cant get that with 5-5-5-18. Ram is d9, shouldn't flinch at this, thinking its the board for now. Using 2t and unlinked. Right now have ram set to 472 4-4-4-12 2t 2.2v.

K I got this board a while back and so far no CPU modding

Well so far using the P6N- SLI FI, I am at 382X 9 FSB (1520) in bios. I can go a lil higher but that for some reason downclocks my mem a lil.
Right now mem is at 950FSB going over 1520 puts my mem at 938FSB. At this point I dunno if its the ram or the board that has reached its limit. Ram is OCZ DDR2 900. CPU is good for another 10-20 Mhz, but I am very happy with a 3.4+ Ghz on my $162 chip (E4300) at 1.48Vcore.

I was able to post at 396X 9 but wouldn't boot. I am sure adding more juice would have solved that, but I want to keep my temps in check

I do have some gripes about this board. I can't seem to use a lower multi like I was able to with my IB9. No matter what I use in the bios it always defaults to 9. I can't boot from my Promise raid card, it doesn't even go to the bios screen of the raid card. Thats all I can think for now.
Over all the board is pretty fast and stable.

try unlinking your Mem frequentie from your fsb, that allows you to seperately max your fsb and mem. much like with RD600. i really like this feature :)
as for the multi, that setting indeed doesnt work correctly. i have the same issue and i hope MSI fixes it in the next bios update

I noticed sumthing wierd about that though. I couldnt get the ram going certain speeds unless I sped up the cpu to a certain degree, too. Like it was still kinda linked. I cant remember exact ratio's, but moving the ram up over 900 or so didnt do anything or sometimes post unless I took the cpu up a good bit too, like over 2.7. I would change the speed, but the clock would stay the same until I increased FSB. That is a great feature though, this is the future of all chipsets, and I cant understand why anyone would want a 9xx chipset, I'm glad I didnt.

What's average max FSB for this mb ?

This worked for me on a [B]MSI P6N Platinum[/B] Board and might give you some guidance. It might not work for you !
Try this at your own risk !

My Bios Version 1.1 settings are as follows:
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CPU FEATURE:
-Execute Disable Bit Disabled
-Set Limit CPUID Disabled

**** VERY IMPORTANT ****

(Press F4 inside of the CPU Feature menu. A hidden option will appear. I was able to increase my overclock from 2400mhz to 3300mhz)

C1E Disabled

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CHIPSET FEATURE:
HPET Disabled

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CELL MENU:
D.O.T Control Disabled
INTEL EIST Disabled
System Clock Mode Manual
FSB Clock (in my case, 1467mhz)
Mem Clock (in my case, 800mhz) pc-6400
CPU ratio (in my case, 9 ) E4300 cpu

Advanced DRAM your memory settings

Adjust PCIE 100

CPU Voltage 1.45v
Mem Voltage 2.1v
NB Voltage 1.40v
SB Voltage 1.50v
FSB VTT Voltage 4%

Spread Spectrum
Configuration All set to Disabled

Remember try this at your own risk !
You might fry everything you have !
Your warranty will be Voided !
USE GOOD COOLING !
I use water cooling cpu temp around 30c !
You need Good airflow over your components !

sorry for revival this old thread.

I've an e4300 lapped with the msi p6n sli-fi bios v2.12 + 2x1gb ocz + TT bigtyp VX also lapped with AS ceramique


Now, from March to now, i've trying the max OC stable on Orthos, until now, I've reache 12hs orthos at 3375mhz, perfect rock solid, but my objetive are 3.6, or at least 3.5ghz.
I've been trying at .3.45ghz, using this values, but resets after 2h30m on Orthos:

C1E Disabled
Eist Disabled
All the Spectrum Disabled

Now the values:
FSB: 1534
Mem: 949 mhz 5-4-4-16-20-2t (the mems wasn't the problem, I tested rock solid at the same speed and frecuency at 3375mhz 12hs orthos)
vCore: +0.2125v (from the base 1.325v)
vDimm: 2.25v
Northbridge: 1.50v
Southbridge: 1.60v
FSB VTT: 8%


Did someone know, If doing the pinmod, could I reach more OC?
Or lost some vDroop?

Because on load it have aproximately 0.055v vDroop

I forgot, i have the nortbridge with 2, coolers of 6x6cm (on inches was 2.3 i think), so its mantain at good temps

Thanks