$100 1gb King

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02-17-2007, 12:24 AM
ineedaname

$100 1gb King

Got a single 1gb stick of pc2-5400 ddr2-666 kingston value ram today for $100 Canadian after taxes (about $85 usd) after seeing some thread in VR. I'm running it at 900mhz 4-4-4-12 2.1v and did 2 passes of memtest86+. I'm not done testing them yet but i'll press on and see what i get. I'll post some pics soon.

This is on a P5N-E SLI mobo.

I can't see what kinda IC's they are since they just say kingston but i think they're hynix.

For $100 there are definitely no complaints :D:D:D

Here's where you can get some http://ramstore.ca/item/showproduct....8badf39ac7db40
02-17-2007, 01:11 AM
ineedaname

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Here's the update the ram ran 2x passes of memtest86+ at 960mhz 4-4-4-12 2.2v

Just finished another 2 passes of MT at 975mhz 5-5-5-12 2.2v
Also did 980mhz 4-4-4-12 2.3v

I'm using unlinked right now and cpu's still at 1.8ghz.
02-17-2007, 02:24 AM
mach82

show us some pics of the stick and we'll tell you what ICs this module is based on. Can it go higher with more volts?
02-17-2007, 02:43 AM
ineedaname

I can't seem to push this stick over 1000mhz at least not at 4-4-4 timings. They're getting a bit hot and they dont' have heat spreaders so that doesn't help.

I'm gonna try updating the bios to see if i can get this up any higher.
02-17-2007, 06:40 AM
FLMJIGGY

U don't need no steenkin heatspreader!

Just put a fan over them. That is much better than any heatspreader.
02-17-2007, 06:58 AM
symphy

ICs and CL3 would be interesting...
02-17-2007, 10:59 AM
ziddey

You got some nice sticks mate. I tried some more testing and was able to get ram to post this time at higher speeds. I'm typing this right now with 933 5-6-6-6-18 6-42-3-12-12-12-8-12-6 2.1v. When I load memtest in windows, it starts erroring immediately.

edit: hmm looks like I might have found my culprit. I have bios settings for vdimm all the way up to 2.45v. however, the p5b vanilla is only supposed to support vdimm up to 2.1v. I just assumed I got lucky, and since the special battery in my dmm is out and I haven't gotten another, I just assumed it to be setting what I chose in bios. But clearly, it's showing that 2.1v is the highest that's actually working properly. Now I'm testing 800 4-4-4-4-12 4-35-2-10-10-10-8-10-4 2.1v.
02-17-2007, 01:42 PM
KingThot

ICs or at least purchase location?
02-17-2007, 11:22 PM
ineedaname

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Here we go a pic of the IC.

As for where i got it. I just got it at some shop that was close 2 my house. Paid $100 canadian FLAT for it.

As for volts it doesn't seem to like it at all. I tried pumping 2.6v into it and didn't yield any better results. Might be because its just too hot tho. If i relaxed the latencies to 5-5-5 I might be able to hit 1000mhz.

The 980 4-4-4-12 at 2.3v is 100% stable.
02-17-2007, 11:23 PM
ineedaname

Bryan.sg in another thread just posted saying he got similar results and this is a pic of his ic with same stick of ram. Seems like they're Elipda IC's

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6...allkingcx1.jpg
02-18-2007, 05:52 AM
Rone

Quote:

Originally Posted by ineedaname

Bryan.sg in another thread just posted saying he got similar results and this is a pic of his ic with same stick of ram. Seems like they're Elipda IC's

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6...allkingcx1.jpg

No, it's definitely not Elpida. This is what Elpida looks like:

http://ramlist.ath.cx/IC/img/Elpida_AB-5C-E.jpg

Three indented dots and a packaging edge surrounding the IC.

Your IC is more likely to be Powerchip, as I stated in the other thread. :)
02-18-2007, 03:22 PM
ineedaname

Actually it looks like this hynix over here.

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8...ixfpy5bnx3.jpg
02-18-2007, 03:48 PM
dinos22

here's a $30 king :D

600MHz 32M SuperPI 5-6-6-15-6-42-10-10-10-10 2.4vdimm

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/7...5661524xv4.jpg

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6461/dsc03687yt0.jpg

624MHz 1M SuperPI 5-6-6-15-6-42-10-10-10-10 2.4vdimm

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/3...661524vab0.jpg

Went to validate at 633MHz on RAM

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=165352

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1166/untitledvt3.jpg

TESTED ON ASUS P5B Deluxe WIFI
02-19-2007, 01:45 AM
oohms

Quote:

Originally Posted by ineedaname

Actually it looks like this hynix over here.

No, you have to look at the size and placement of the dot... and the size and placement of the text right next to the dot.. and the font.
02-19-2007, 08:06 AM
ineedaname

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

here's a $30 king :D

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Damn that's sweet. Too bad its a 256mb stick
micron d9's o.O

But my $100 stick is still cheaper per mb kekekekke :D:D:D
02-19-2007, 08:08 AM
ineedaname

Quote:

Originally Posted by oohms

No, you have to look at the size and placement of the dot... and the size and placement of the text right next to the dot.. and the font.

I dunno man then what do u think it is?

I think its a bit hard 2 tell cuz the dot is not imprinted it's just ink.
02-19-2007, 01:33 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by ineedaname

Damn that's sweet. Too bad its a 256mb stick
micron d9's o.O

But my $100 stick is still cheaper per mb kekekekke :D:D:D

actually $30 was for both sticks :D

they are surprisingly quick for 2x512MB in SPI
02-19-2007, 10:23 PM
ineedaname

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

actually $30 was for both sticks :D

they are surprisingly quick for 2x512MB in SPI

AWWWWWWW.

Well i guess i can always say they weren't 1gb sticks ::p:

BTW i just added some link where u can get some up top
02-20-2007, 02:59 AM
oohms

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

actually $30 was for both sticks :D

they are surprisingly quick for 2x512MB in SPI

lol damn you and your cheap D9 :D
now its getting very hard to find any micron at all on ebay
02-20-2007, 04:58 AM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by oohms

lol damn you and your cheap D9 :D
now its getting very hard to find any micron at all on ebay

you sure

;)

latest addition

555MHz 5-5-5-x 2.2vdimm >> did 565MHz as well but errored in 8th loop on 8M SuperPI at same vdimm :slobber:

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/461...superpidy3.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8...6resizefe0.jpg
02-20-2007, 05:52 AM
Nephilim

The two pics of the kingston IC's, based on the dot size and the roughness I would guess micron.

Compare to dinos22's IC's and you'll see the dots are the same size.

However, for the price my guess is promos. Very interesting.
02-20-2007, 06:46 AM
oohms

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nephilim

The two pics of the kingston IC's, based on the dot size and the roughness I would guess micron.

Compare to dinos22's IC's and you'll see the dots are the same size.

However, for the price my guess is promos. Very interesting.

Nearly all relabeled microns also have the 4 character code you see on the chip towards the bottom of the ram stick
02-20-2007, 01:06 PM
ineedaname

If you look at the micron's they're rectangular shape while the two kingston's are more square.

Dunno if that makes a difference but just an observation.
02-21-2007, 08:47 AM
perry_78

Hmm. Am I ready to get a p5b, celeron and a stick of this? Will set me back about 300usd... :)
02-21-2007, 12:57 PM
Millyons

like roon said Powerchips 100%
more in this thread with some results...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=116768
02-21-2007, 02:27 PM
ziddey

Quote:

Originally Posted by Millyons

like roon said Powerchips 100%
more in this thread with some results...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=116768

nice thread. it looks like my powerchips don't respond well to voltage at all. I can do 800 4-4-4-12 with 2.12v. But when I try to do 900 with 2.12v, even retarding all timings in memset won't give stability.

I changed to the next lower voltage, which is 2.08v actual, and now I'm memtesting in windows @ 900 2.08v 9-9-9-9-24 9-80-7-28-24-15-15-15-15. oh man
02-21-2007, 02:44 PM
Marvin_The_Martian

meh nice sticks people
02-21-2007, 02:59 PM
Millyons

Quote:

Originally Posted by ziddey

nice thread. it looks like my powerchips don't respond well to voltage at all. I can do 800 4-4-4-12 with 2.12v. But when I try to do 900 with 2.12v, even retarding all timings in memset won't give stability.

I changed to the next lower voltage, which is 2.08v actual, and now I'm memtesting in windows @ 900 2.08v 9-9-9-9-24 9-80-7-28-24-15-15-15-15. oh man

hmmm my mem gets pretty linear gains with more voltages....although i only tested 4-4-4-12 and to 2.45v
02-22-2007, 12:15 PM
ineedaname

On the board i tested the ram on i got more gains with more voltage but it definitely wasn't linear. I had to use a ton more voltage to get it from 950-980.

I found that the sweet spot was about 2.2v
02-23-2007, 03:28 AM
dinos22

got those 4xsticks of RAM i was waiting for but the idiot sent me 3xwrong modules D9DCN :bawling:

one of them was D9GCT :eek:

i am limited here by vMCH

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8...stick44ny3.jpg

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/264...stick44vq5.jpg

:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: amazing

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9...stick55ro9.jpg
02-23-2007, 04:56 AM
msimax

is this the gct results only?
02-23-2007, 04:58 AM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by msimax

is this the gct results only?

yeah the other ICs are :banana::banana::banana::banana:
02-23-2007, 07:17 AM
dinos22

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/3576/test2bm4.jpg
02-23-2007, 09:36 AM
ineedaname

Whoa dinos22 so what sticks are these and how much did they cost?
02-23-2007, 01:28 PM
dinos22

OEM micron PC4300 :) :toast:
02-25-2007, 01:35 AM
ineedaname

how about price? Those ones also $30?

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