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When is launch though :(Quote:
Originally Posted by -Sweeper_
I really expected it to be on 64nm. Oh well, this way it will be here a little earlier.
i will probably have one 8900gtx or 8950 GX2
Maybe early Q2. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by fhpchris
thats a rather impressive line up, even to the lowest cards when you look at the price to specs.
this is false information!
8900GTS can not have 128 SP's (those are not "shaders, but Stream Processors), and have 320bit mem. interface!
Also card with 96 SP's can only have 320bit, NOT 256bit mem. bus, so info for 8900GS is FALSE!
No need to comment 8600, and 8300 'cos who ever made this table didn't even bother to take look at the G80 diagram!
And making up 8950 GX2 in time when 'vidia is facing so much issues with SLi under vista is ridiculous!
Does anyone think Nvidia will have it's cards "Vista Ready" by the time the 8900's come out? :D
Well...maby nvidia will fixet all det problems with sli in vista antill 8950gx2 comes. Its long time antill we will se this kind of card, earlyQ3 or late Q2 maby. When ever it will be the SLI issue will be fixt in vista.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
Anyone notice how closely this mirrors the latest rumored ATI lineup?
The 8900GS looks good. I might have to upgrade when it gets cheaper. :)
hmm 8900gtx or 8950... ;)
I am never one to buy a $600 videocard but i feel like this generation is going to be good for a long time, i mean the performance jump is just huge... r600 or g80+ HMMMM... Should be fun.
8900GS $249 :slobber: :D
never heard of 89xx but do know G90 :D
:cool: do tell :).....would have thought they would have G90 on a bigger product lineup upgradeQuote:
Originally Posted by guess2098
Would have been nice if one of the midrange cards (8600ULTRA) had GDDR4. It's good to see another GX2 cards, though imagine how big its going to be. It'll probably make even the 7900GX2 look small.
:D 8900GTS looks like a great card. higher clocks and more shaders.
NICE!!!! wOOt
I wonder if any of the high-end cards will be single-slot.
I don't think we will ever see a high end card taking up 1 slot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
7800GTX-256 and 7900GT are recent examples....no reason why an 80nm G80 with GDDR3 can't be single slot.
don't suppose there is any idea of release date?
7900GT though close to gtx, I would not consider it a high end card as it was intended to be more mid to high end.
We're XS, who doesn't have at least 1.4V thru theirs? :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by 96redformula7
no 512Bit cards ????
I m eager to see 8950GX2 VS X2800XTX2
Well Mine gets up to 670/900 1.4v, didn't mention that. However I did not think they will let it happened again.
Also SLI 3 slot comeing
I wanted to see 512 bit, this just deosnt look right.
512 bit would mean entirely new core, I always assumed this would be a simple die shrink.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinnacle
R600 is named X2800, which means comeback for 8900 is the X2900!
Right, but the X2800 is already 80nm. That will be competing with the 8900GTX. There will also probably be a 65nm refresh of both cards later in the year, when TSMC's 65nm process can handle the high end parts.
8600GT：80nm、64sp、650/1800MHz(GDDR3)、128-bit、256MB、$199
G86 is only 128bit:(
I guess even 160bit or 192bit:(
X1950XT will blow off the 128Bit card
8900GS 256mb is very nice for me since my screen si only 19" WS so it won't be that bad to still use a 256 vga :D
thanks for sharing
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Originally Posted by Chocolate Pi
yep i also notice that , in my opinion both are fake
talking about the 8900 the INQ says :
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Geforce 8900 comes into view
Overclocked G80 with a driver tweak
NVIDIA is working on one more overclock of the G80 chip.
We just wrote about EVGA 8800 GTX overclocked edition that works at 626MHz and somehow we know that 630MHz is the top for this chip. You can read all about it here.
Nvidia plans to introduce the new overclocked card with a driver tweak. This card is supposed to give DAAMIT's R600 a run for its money.
We don’t know how much further Nvidia can push the G80 chip but it obviously has some secret driver that can unleash some more performance. We just don’t know how much more performance they can possibly unleash. µ
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37544
cheers
For the person that said that the chart is wrong because 128Sp cannot have 320bit memory interface, keep in mind that the cores have been die shrunk. So while what you say may be the truth with the current G80, its quite possible nvidia has slightly re-engineered the 8900 series' memory controllers. It is also still possible that what you say is true, that the chart is wrong, but we will find out in a little while.
My comment on R600 versus the 80nm 8900gtx is that the 8900gtx will most likely win. The reason, the R600 is not too much faster than an 8800gtx and as some members have noted that the 8800gtx can match the R600 when slightly overclocked. The 8900 is more than just a slight core clock bump. We see gddr4, higher mem clocks, and higher core clocks along with lower temps which mean they will overclock higher.
But that is just my 2cents
yes they are, and in the most lame way! It's worrying how so many Xtreme members are taking this "news" for granted! Today you can publish any peace of crap, and people will go for it with out any grain of salt. :shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by mascaras
Oooooo, 8950 is here to bring us dual gpu cards once again. If that's true ATI has no chance to claim the King's spot for single cards(single being used loosely).
cheersQuote:
Geforce 8900 GTX has 25 per cent more shaders
Everything is under the curtain. Yeah, curtain
NVIDIA managed to hide some stuff in front of our eyes, under a veil, curtain or purda.
If Geforce 8900 turns out to be using the G80 chip, that will mean that the chip had more Shaders all along. Our sources confirm that Geforce 8900 GTX has more shaders.
We know that this will speed up some of the games and definitely in the "scientific" GPGPU calculations. We heard that the card still has the same G80, 90 nanometre core but Nvidia might be veiling some info. We know you cannot clock the G80 more than 630MHz unless you "goto" water cooling. With that you are still topped at 680+MHz.
We heard that the card will be announced just in time to spoil the ATI's fun with R600 launch. Quel surprise, n'est ce pas? µ
http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37610
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Originally Posted by Nedjo
memory interface is independent of the GPU if I'm not mistaken. it's more or less a process of slap on some memory controllers and go. it's just really expensive to go high.
and the 8600u and 8600GT specs have been floating around for a LONG time.
Ati also has a dual gpu-card:slap: ,2800xtx2:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nanometer
Watch out the 1950 Pro dual is going to spank this, ROFL
i have an idea, y dont we all make up model numbers and talk about how nice they are lol?
If these are true then the 8900GS will be a kickass card, wish it had GDDR4 though :( Funny that the 8900GT and the 8800GTX are priced the way they are, I'd think they'd put the 8900GT underneath the 8800GTX b/c the only plus the 89GT has is the addition of GDDR4 and a moderate clock bump which means nothing to us. Would love to see some GDDR4 midrange cards.
hmm... 8900GTS looks very very very good. i think i've found my next card :D
as for launch dates, i would assume sometime in late April-May.
I thought it would be just 8900GT/GTX, i guess i'll go with the 8900GTS for GDDR4:banana:
Yeah... :( :mad: :rolleyes: :slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by milkcafe
I think I'm going back to ATi/AMD. Damn, even my 6800 had twice the width! :slapass:
The only real question is weather the 8950x2 will work in SLI. Was very disapointing with the 7950x2 not to work properly in SLI.
Two of those cards working together would make a blinding game rig.
why 8900GT/GS are 256bit!!?
I think its rumor ...
No way. The cooling system alone prevent single slot solution in high end cards of 8800 series.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
Nvidia have problems with drivers in a single 8800 what makes you think tha 8950 will work fine and especially in quad sli.Quote:
Originally Posted by DFI pit bull
I don't even dare to imagine what kind of psu's will be needed to feed this monsters.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...3&postcount=11Quote:
Originally Posted by PallMall
Not bad guess eh ? Now the Inq is stealing my idea :D
Regards
Andy
8800GTX memory bandwidth is 86.4GB/s (384bit)
8900GTX memory bandwidth is 105.6GB/s (384bit)
X2800XTX is 140.8GB/s (512bit) (if its real)
if the R600 MBus is really 512bit
even 8900GTX will be beaten by R600 in the high res+aa+af like *2048x1536 8xAA 16xAF
and the G81 should be totally re-designed to compete with R600 Rev.2
Beaten on paper spec doesn't mean beaten in real appz :)
it does if every value is higher :S
(lol post count...)
my guess is that gddr4 is still not if wide availability. if we are lucky, by the end of the year nvidia will have gddr4 in all of its card. lets just hope and pray.Quote:
Originally Posted by gomeler
I was gonna go for an 8800GTS320 to replace my 640...I think i`ll wait now, stick with my 7800GTX512 :D
Waits for 9xxx series..
I still have a 9600 Pro around, interested? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by yaddam205
All people here are interested of the new technologies, G81vsR600.
Can I ask what about 8600 vs X2600, mainstream cards? I don't need a beast and I have LCD (no more than 1280x1024). When they release, benchmarks and etc?
Benchies? There are just a few pictures of the X2800XTX OEM prototype, where do you think we should take benchies for the X2600 from? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Gam3Ra
Official introduction/launch: CeBit.
Benchies: 8600 soon, X2600 is still a month or two away.
Availability: Q2, but for mass availability Q3 is much more probable.
I'm confused about the 8900GS vs. 8900GT...
i don't get how these cards have the EXACT same specs except for core/mem speeds...
cuz in the 7900 series, didn't the GT have more shaders than the GS (24 vs. 20)?
I'd expect the GS to sell better since you can overclock it most likely to GT speeds for $100 less (assuming you get the 512 MB version).
Interesting...
If any of it is even partly true, Nvidia will most likely start off with the mid-low end segment with the 80nm process. They don't have the capabilities of producing that many cards in such short time. Not to mention ATI has already put their order in for their cards.
Who knows. GX2 with 256bit interface (nvidia naming) and 550Mhz core clocks doesn't look too attractive. Especially when judging by the numbers, it would be outperformed by the cheaper 8900gts in SLI.
Im pretty sure they've had 80nm 7600GTs out even before 8800s were released, meaning they could have started producing 80nm G8x cards since 8800 release, November-April/May should be more than enough time to produce low-mid + high end 80nm cards :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ahmad
Hmmm the other rumor is 8600 Ultra with 256bit bus....
Agreed!Quote:
milkcafe
8800GTX memory bandwidth is 86.4GB/s (384bit)
8900GTX memory bandwidth is 105.6GB/s (384bit)
X2800XTX is 140.8GB/s (512bit) (if its real)
if the R600 MBus is really 512bit
even 8900GTX will be beaten by R600 in the high res+aa+af like *2048x1536 8xAA 16xAF
and the G81 should be totally re-designed to compete with R600 Rev.2
Pic is more than like Rumor and fake!Quote:
shimmishim
I'm confused about the 8900GS vs. 8900GT...
i don't get how these cards have the EXACT same specs except for core/mem speeds...
cuz in the 7900 series, didn't the GT have more shaders than the GS (24 vs. 20)?
I'd expect the GS to sell better since you can overclock it most likely to GT speeds for $100 less (assuming you get the 512 MB version).
I also waiting for 8900GS I have great experience with 7900GS
at stock clock its 7800GTX (05 8000,06 4300) and after OC to 640/1640 its 7900GTO (05 9800,06 5600)
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Originally Posted by SaFrOuT
http://www.iopanel.net/forum/showthread.php?t=866
this site say
8900GS 256MB is $399 , not $249 in the page1
$249 is the 8600GT 128Bit:(
(the $299 8600GT is nonsense ,same as 8800GTS 320M:p: )
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/6859/dddog5.jpg
if you are a Nv fan
I think now the best choice is to grab a $299 8800GTS 320MB right away
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130082
,OC it to 650/1900
and you can hold it at least for 2-3 years until DX11 out
We got an ETA on the 89 series?
those 8900 numbers are wrong :P
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Originally Posted by ahmad
a while ago there was a news post about Nvidia ordering 80nm G80 cores.
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Geforce 8900GTX and 8950GX2 details listed
With 8900 GTS and 8900 GS at 80 nanometres
JUST A DAY after we uncovered the existence of Nvidia's Geforce 8950 GTX and Geforce 8900 GTX, our friends in Taiwan confirmed the news.
The Geforce 8950 GX2 is a dual-chip card based on a new 80 nanometre G80 chip,probably codenamed something else. Both GX2 GPUs are clocked at 550MHz and the difference is GDDR4. The card comes with 2x512MB of 256-bit GDDR4 memory clocked at 2000MHz. The card has 96 Shaders, per chip. It will be priced at $600.
The second in Nvidia's spring line-up is the Geforce 8900 GTX clocked at 700MHz GPU and 2200MHz memory. The chip still has a 384-bit memory interface and comes with 768MB of memory. The card uses a new 80 nanometre chip and has 128 Shaders. Compared to the Radeon X2800XTX it will end up shorter on clock and memory interface. The Geforce 8900 GTX is priced at $550.
Meanwhile, the Geforce 8900 GTS is a new card clocked at 600MHz GPU with 2000MHz GDDR4 memory. It supports the 320-bit memory controller and comes with 640Mb of memory. This card should cost $500 and it is using the 80 nanometre chip. This card will still have 128 Shader units.
The current king of the crop, the 8800 GTX will drop in price to $450, while the Geforce 8800 GTS loaded with 640MB of memory stays up in the $400 price range.
Nvidia has two more 80 nanometre cards. The Geforce 8900GT with 600MHz core and with a 256-bit memory interface comes with 512MB of 1800MHz GDDR3 memory. It has 96 Shaders and is built on a 80 nanometre process and will cost $400.
The 8900 GS will be the cheapest G80-based card. The 80 nanometre based beast is clocked at 550MHz core and 1600MHZ memory. The card has the 256-bit memory controller and comes with 256 or 512MB of GDDR3 memory. It also has 96 Shaders. The 256MB version will cost $200 while 512MB incarnation will end up at around the $250 price mark.
http://www.theinq.com/default.aspx?article=37655
cheers
Here's the original article :) http://www.tweaktown.com/news/7055/g...ion/index.html
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So they are out anywhere from April till June?
My eVGA step-up expires in mid-April, so I hope they're out soon :D!Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwi
They're definitely wrong. I've been sitting reading these threads and laughing rather uncontrollably reading some of the guesses the sites are putting out. Much like how I was laughing when everyone tried telling me the G80 was not unified.Quote:
Originally Posted by metro.cl
I'm sure you're right along with me on that one Metro. :toast:
NVidia put in the order for the 80nm parts in january. You seem to forget that NVidia has dabbled with 80nm already as well, remember? They did a 80nm G73 as well. Not saying that the 8900 will be 80nm, but it can be with ease.Quote:
Originally Posted by ahmad
If past 80nm incarnations are anything to go by then an 80nm G80 will really overclock.
As for 80nm G73 these are still pretty rarte I think, at least in the UK. I know coz I want to buy two. Any pointers gratefully recieved via PM. Cheers.
Regards
Andy
Wow... I don't know of any game that would need those two highest spec cards, not even anything currently being made. LOL That's just insane. What the hell is the point in that?
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Originally Posted by DilTech
Haha, great news if ya ask me that you're laughing :). Good pointer on when they ordered the chips, too ;)!
I agree completely, while Im not under an NDA for this based off of historical nVidia pricing none of these numbers look correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by metro.cl
Absolutly, I still dont understand why people actually think there will be an 80nm G81. nVidia has said they do not exist, even the INQ agrees. The rush order of 80nm chips to TSMC a month or so ago are for G84 chips not 81s.Quote:
Originally Posted by DilTech
I really really doubt G81 is 80nm or that its being produced right now. The G80 should be more than enough to keep them competitive until they can truly come up with a cost saving measure. Plus nVidia I'm assuming believes they have already captured all/almost all of their targeted sales for the G80 core, which would not give them an incentive to make something on a process shink that gives at best 10%.
People often forget that this isnt a technology race as it is a sales race. If nVidia has hit its target (which I'm sure it has) they wont make something only margionally better if they are still selling G80s at the levels they are looking for.