Tuniq vs Infinity Round two!!!

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02-02-2007, 10:15 PM
enz660

Tuniq vs Infinity Round two!!!

ORIGINAL THREAD

alright guys, after having many people complain about the test not being fair...I did a few things to make this more of an apples to apples comparison. Im shocked how much of an improvment the tuniq can obtain from lapping, extra fans, and adding some thermal paste around the top of the base. Here are some images:

INITIAL Lapping Process: the finish was perfect except for two small areas which barely come in contact with the cpu that no metter how much I lapped, they wouldnt sand smooth. Im pretty sure they didnt make much difference though...the image does NOT reflect how the finished heatsink looks..
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/5...processgw8.jpg

I popped the top off and smothered thermal paste everywhere. This picture shows where its probably having the greatest effect. I added some more later.
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/6708/modzzj9.jpg

Made sure the mount was super tight, both the bracket & motherboard are bending from the pressure.
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/7893/tightzi4.jpg

Added a yate at full speed for the case exhaust this time, and taped on the same at the front of the tuniq.
http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/2560/tuniq2ol3.jpg

when the tuniq fan was at is lowest setting, the two yate loons made the noise comparable to the modded scythe infinity. The verdict?

TIE
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/3586/drawpl2.th.jpg

this is with the tuniq fan rulling @ full, in addition to the yates.
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/3...4863dh0.th.jpg

looks like both coolers offer the same performance once modded. The full fan speed of the tuniq is WAAYYY louder than I can stand, so in order for it to perform well at low speeds, additional fans are needed. Hope this cleared up any skepticism from my oroginal review.
02-02-2007, 10:30 PM
IKIKUINTHENUTZ

LMAO good job enz good job, Now I would recomend doing the base better next time but you have done more than enough with this sort of thing. I give props to you :cheer:

Now im curious of the 3 fan method lol

btw according to pic, isnt the tuniq cooler than infinty by 1c? lol
02-02-2007, 10:59 PM
Spawne32

what exactly does the thermal paste do that make such a big difference?
02-02-2007, 11:15 PM
enz660

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spawne32

what exactly does the thermal paste do that make such a big difference?

idk, fills the gaps.... I dont think it does much, but I did the same to the infinity so I think it would only be fair if this one had the same mod done to it..
02-02-2007, 11:17 PM
Speederlander

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spawne32

what exactly does the thermal paste do that make such a big difference?

It doesn't make a big difference. Probably couldn't even measure the impact.
02-03-2007, 03:42 AM
Okda

so lapping and an extra QUIET fan do the magic

thanks for the effort enz660
02-03-2007, 03:55 AM
Judaeus Apella

I was laughing when I saw that paper tape holding the fan on LOL. But good job man. I had a pretty strong feeling they were equals.
02-03-2007, 05:48 AM
L'enFer

enz660, good tests. but what did you put thermal paste on the top of the heatsink for?
02-03-2007, 06:44 AM
dab420

Round three, Noctua NH-U12F? (and again with the mods..) lol
02-03-2007, 07:06 AM
Judaeus Apella

Quote:

Originally Posted by L'enFer

enz660, good tests. but what did you put thermal paste on the top of the heatsink for?

I wasn't sure what that was either. I was starting to think he posted some wierd x rated cooler fetish pics. I was about to say he's taking this too far and may need some professional help.
02-03-2007, 07:29 AM
enz660

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judaeus Apella

I wasn't sure what that was either. I was starting to think he posted some wierd x rated cooler fetish pics. I was about to say he's taking this too far and may need some professional help.

HAH, well, at least on the infinity, I filled in sime gaps between each heatpipe so at least thermal paste could aid in mimicing a more or les "solid" base. I would solder it if I could... It probably didnt make a major difference on the tuniq, but it seemed like the right thing to do on the infinity.
02-03-2007, 11:34 AM
enz660

well im back on my scythe again, 1.36vcore, 3.2ghz, idles at 29c with both yates undervolted. I can't hear my pc... I would still pick the scythe over the tuniq for its optimization for low cfm fans. Still waiting for thermalright to come out with something better than the ultra 120.
02-03-2007, 12:12 PM
GPSeek

Quote:

Originally Posted by enz660

HAH, well, at least on the infinity, I filled in sime gaps between each heatpipe so at least thermal paste could aid in mimicing a more or les "solid" base. I would solder it if I could... It probably didnt make a major difference on the tuniq, but it seemed like the right thing to do on the infinity.

I think the Coollab liquid metal can fill the gap nicely. You may still need some ceramic to seal the liquid metal.
02-03-2007, 08:12 PM
enz660

Quote:

Originally Posted by enz660

HAH, well, at least on the infinity, I filled in sime gaps between each heatpipe so at least thermal paste could aid in mimicing a more or les "solid" base. I would solder it if I could... It probably didnt make a major difference on the tuniq, but it seemed like the right thing to do on the infinity.

JESUS my spelling is bad! wow....wtf was I on?!? :banana: :banana:
02-03-2007, 08:48 PM
IKIKUINTHENUTZ

Because you keep staying up to 2am almost everyday :nono:

:slapass:

btw I wonder if coolab paste does have an affect or not
02-03-2007, 10:35 PM
Judaeus Apella

How about melting some silver solder on it? You can get it at radio shack for about $4. Then use a small file from a hardware store to get rid of the globs, and pretty it up a bit. :)
02-03-2007, 10:45 PM
enz660

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judaeus Apella

How about melting some silver solder on it? You can get it at radio shack for about $4. Then use a small file from a hardware store to get rid of the globs, and pretty it up a bit. :)

hmmm, how hot is that stuff? It probably cools down too fast to fill the gaps. It would solidify in the wrong places... I hear that if something very hot comes into contact with the heatpipes (hotter than a hot cpu lol) they might explode! (hopefully with lots of fire & destruction so it would look cool :p: )
02-04-2007, 07:16 PM
Judaeus Apella

Hmmmmmm... I see your point. But if its done with a soldergun one thin stripe at a time, I don't think it would be enough to cause that problem... would it? As long as he was careful and kept the gun's tip away from the heatpipes, I'd imagine.
02-04-2007, 07:29 PM
s1rrah

thanks for the review mang.

now i don't have to spend the money on that damn ugly tuniq!

(i was planning on doing the same review very soon)

:)

good to see the infinity holding it's own!
02-06-2007, 03:29 PM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by dab420

Round three, Noctua NH-U12F? (and again with the mods..) lol

lol, i'd love to see that aswell :D
02-07-2007, 08:32 PM
ineedaname

Woot nice job!!!

That's a new infinity for me :D:D:D
tuniq's a bit tough 2 find in canada.
02-07-2007, 08:33 PM
ineedaname

OOops my browser messed up leaving 2 messages so i guess i'll change this one to say something else.

errr just wondering, can the inside slot of the tuniq fit a 38mm thick fan?
02-08-2007, 05:28 AM
enz660

Quote:

Originally Posted by ineedaname

OOops my browser messed up leaving 2 messages so i guess i'll change this one to say something else.

errr just wondering, can the inside slot of the tuniq fit a 38mm thick fan?

negative :(

edit: nice save haha :p:
02-09-2007, 09:45 AM
dab420

Noctua VS All

Noctua I think is a fantastic cooler. Solid mounting (STOCK) Incredible cooling, and quiet as you could ask for.

Lets get some of these on a consistent bench and see how they do with push/pull and mods vs the Tuniq! :D
02-09-2007, 09:35 PM
swiftex

Quote:

Originally Posted by ineedaname

Woot nice job!!!

That's a new infinity for me :D:D:D
tuniq's a bit tough 2 find in canada.

tuniq's hard to find, machine that makes them broke so noone's getting any right now
02-10-2007, 04:16 AM
Pete

Quote:

Originally Posted by enz660

I popped the top off and smothered thermal paste everywhere. This picture shows where its probably having the greatest effect. I added some more later.
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/6708/modzzj9.jpg

Humm that got be a pain as thats going to be easy to get everywhere! I'd be tempted to braze it up, have more themeral contact then as it be a metal as to the paste
02-10-2007, 09:14 AM
enz660

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete

Humm that got be a pain as thats going to be easy to get everywhere! I'd be tempted to braze it up, have more themeral contact then as it be a metal as to the paste

I wish I could do that but it would be difficult becuase once its on there, its done. Also, heatpipes cannot handle such high temps and there is a chace they would blow up (from what others have told me at least).
02-10-2007, 09:21 AM
GPSeek

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete

Humm that got be a pain as thats going to be easy to get everywhere! I'd be tempted to braze it up, have more themeral contact then as it be a metal as to the paste

You don't want to blow up these heatpipes by high temperature.:stick:

As I said in an earlier post, this is the best thing to try if you really want go extreme:

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPSeek

I think the Coollab liquid metal can fill the gap nicely. You may still need some ceramic to seal the liquid metal.
07-13-2007, 11:36 AM
TheBeast1590

enz660
take a look here,
http://images.people.overclockers.ru/128411.jpg
this mod reduced the temps in 2*C!
that silver stuff is an alloy which melts in 95*C. It was not difficult to use it.
07-13-2007, 12:52 PM
s1rrah

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBeast1590

enz660
take a look here,
http://images.people.overclockers.ru/128411.jpg
this mod reduced the temps in 2*C!
that silver stuff is an alloy which melts in 95*C. It was not difficult to use it.

Where do I get it?

When I redo my Infinity pressure mount, I want to do that as well ...
07-13-2007, 09:51 PM
enz660

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBeast1590

enz660
take a look here,
http://images.people.overclockers.ru/128411.jpg
this mod reduced the temps in 2*C!
that silver stuff is an alloy which melts in 95*C. It was not difficult to use it.

SICK :clap:

nice work bro
07-13-2007, 10:32 PM
PanteraGSTK

I've been an Infinity fan (no pun intended) since I purchased mine. I was new to the heatpipe coolers and the infinity had the most consistent results in most of the reviews I read. Here are my results with my infinity with a pressure mod and the stock infinity fan with two additional 80cfm fans.

Idle with ~25*c ambient.

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/7480/idlebe1.png

Load

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/6834/loadpt0.png
08-04-2007, 02:38 PM
billyboy

sorry to re-open a old thread, but I would love to know if theres much of a temp diff when modifying the tuniq mounting system?

if so how did you do it
08-04-2007, 08:58 PM
enz660

Quote:

Originally Posted by billyboy

sorry to re-open a old thread, but I would love to know if theres much of a temp diff when modifying the tuniq mounting system?

if so how did you do it

The only reason you might want to mod it is if the screw breaks (which it did for me) and you need to replace them with your own screws. Other than that, just tighten it a lot, make sure the cpu IHS and the Heatsink base are both lapped, and use a quality thermal paste. You should get best performance out of the mount after all that. Good luck.
08-04-2007, 10:10 PM
Damien

enz660, was the bottom fan blowing air on the heatsink or away? Does using this help a lot? Also, did you keep the fan in the middle of the tuniq, and if so, which way is it blowing, towards the back I'm guessing?
08-05-2007, 08:03 AM
enz660

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienKC

enz660, was the bottom fan blowing air on the heatsink or away? Does using this help a lot? Also, did you keep the fan in the middle of the tuniq, and if so, which way is it blowing, towards the back I'm guessing?

I dont get what you mean by "bottom fan" but yes, i did keep the fan in the middle of the tuniq, all fans were blowing to the back of the case yes. Like the ifx, the tuniq has tight fin spacing, and the loud, high rpm tuniq fan helps take advantage of the fin concentration.
08-05-2007, 12:36 PM
Damien

the fan thats on the bottom of the tuniq, it either blows up or down :P