All i can say is Widescreen Monitors!!!

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02-02-2007, 10:07 AM
sladesurfer

All i can say is Widescreen Monitors!!!

Let the snake thing play, it's an add.
The video's after....Can you say Minority Report!! WOW!!

Video: http://fastcompany.com/video/general...tivepixel.html

Article: http://www.fastcompany.com/subscr/11...touchthis.html
02-02-2007, 10:19 AM
thenrz

holy hell dude, nice find! that would be so cool. imagine having a screen like that in your room....wow
02-02-2007, 10:21 AM
Eastcoasthandle

Anyone have the link when this was shown using small square pieces of glass on a table? Each piece of glass was placed inside a tablet. Each piece of glass has a specific function like weather reports, photo album, etc...
02-02-2007, 10:29 AM
alucasa

Wonderful ...

I wish I was born 100 years later. Such a thing like that could be in my living room then.

Or 1 thousand years later.... Maybe then I might be born on some place other than Earth.
02-02-2007, 10:47 AM
Ashraf

Damn, you gotta stand? :( Heh, I don't think it is best for programmers. :p:

Quote:

Originally Posted by alucasa

Wonderful ...

I wish I was born 100 years later. Such a thing like that could be in my living room then.

Or 1 thousand years later.... Maybe then I might be born on some place other than Earth.

Hahaha, true. :D
02-02-2007, 10:49 AM
comment

Quote:

Originally Posted by sladesurfer

Let the snake thing play, it's an add.
The video's after....Can you say Minority Report!! WOW!!

:) http://fastcompany.com/video/general...tivepixel.html

What are we to expect?

Touch screen advanced – holy muffin’ !
02-02-2007, 10:49 AM
BlackX

probably next gen windows will look something like this.

just imagine lifting your hands for 5-6 hours per day in front of that screen, its better than fitness training :banana: :D
02-02-2007, 10:53 AM
Johnny Bravo

that's truly amazing stuff there.
02-02-2007, 10:54 AM
Fr3ak

Minority report, here we come.

Great video.
There is a different company somewhere that uses a projector and steam as a screen. They had an "touch the steam" control aswell. Unfortunately I forgot what it was called, but that one is at least as good.
I want 2 :P
02-02-2007, 10:56 AM
RaZz!

simply amazing!

but i doubt that such a thing will ever replace mouse/keyboard (or equivalent equipment), would be kinda hard to play games that way ;D
02-02-2007, 10:59 AM
idiotec

Some of it looks much like the iphone interaction.

While the stuff he was doing looked "cool," I did not see much that actually looked like a better way to interact with a computer. It all actually looked like a lot more work. :stick:
02-02-2007, 11:03 AM
mursaat

Wow also impressive is which hardware moves that. Even with the whole Google Earth database cached on local discs it zooms really fast. And the Gaudi photographs movement is really smooth.
02-02-2007, 11:11 AM
vitaminc

Quote:

Originally Posted by mursaat

Wow also impressive is which hardware moves that. Even with the whole Google Earth database cached on local discs it zooms really fast. And the Gaudi photographs movement is really smooth.

ya, wonder what kind of computers is required to run that o/s
02-02-2007, 11:15 AM
nn_step

moving the screen around with your fingers, so twentieth century. What I want is a computer screen that I can modify and use with my mind :D
02-02-2007, 11:22 AM
BlackX

Quote:

Originally Posted by nn_step

moving the screen around with your fingers, so twentieth century. What I want is a computer screen that I can modify and use with my mind :D

Thats very american. Of course moving your finger is very hard work. You can even loose some calories (that would be pitty). I have better idea: If you make a computer which is controled by your jaws, you wouldnt need to make breaks between meals. :rolleyes:
02-02-2007, 11:35 AM
mcflurry4321

Quote:

Originally Posted by nn_step

moving the screen around with your fingers, so twentieth century. What I want is a computer screen that I can modify and use with my mind :D

Haha, hell yeah.
02-02-2007, 11:40 AM
Kunaak

while I can see this would be a strange thing to use for long periods of time... I can see some areas where it would be absolutly amazing to have.

like animation, art, digital photo editing, video editing, and things like that.

too many people are just too use to sitting in front of a screen doing little more then moving thier wrist.
so it would take awhile to get some real converts, but for artists and such, its very very easy to see how this would be a dream come true.

I myself am an artist, and for me, this thing would be heaven...
to remove the limitations of mice and keyboards, and get a much more streamlined ability to just "do" what you need to... without having to move through endless windows and options... it would greatly improve ones ability to be creative, without having to stop and think about the technical aspect of things...

absolutly beautiful.

best thing I seen in awhile and definatly had me smiling from ear to ear.
thanks.
02-02-2007, 12:12 PM
Caparroz

Is that real?

It looks like one of those "optimistic" Cell demos...
02-02-2007, 12:18 PM
Order

Quote:

Thats very american. Of course moving your finger is very hard work. You can even loose some calories (that would be pitty). I have better idea: If you make a computer which is controled by your jaws, you wouldnt need to make breaks between meals.

Ew.
02-02-2007, 12:25 PM
[XC] Lead Head

Quote:

Originally Posted by nn_step

moving the screen around with your fingers, so twentieth century. What I want is a computer screen that I can modify and use with my mind :D

Some paralyzed people DO have a chip put into their brain which allows them to move a cursor on a computer, but not much else :)

GNOME is visible on one part of the video, so its probably running on a Dual Head Linux computer
02-02-2007, 12:26 PM
nn_step

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackX

Thats very american. Of course moving your finger is very hard work. You can even loose some calories (that would be pitty). I have better idea: If you make a computer which is controled by your jaws, you wouldnt need to make breaks between meals. :rolleyes:

at the same time using a keyboard would burn more calories, why don't we just remove your mouse and let you use a Command interface like real men do :stick:

Think less about the method and more about ease of use.
02-02-2007, 12:56 PM
BlackX

Quote:

Originally Posted by nn_step

at the same time using a keyboard would burn more calories, why don't we just remove your mouse and let you use a Command interface like real men do :stick:

Think less about the method and more about ease of use.

Is it so hard to move your fingers? :D

PS: Im not against the innovations :nono:

EDIT: or maybe it would be even harder to control computer using your mind. Think about it, you should be concentrated very hard all the time, it would be mental exhausting IMO.
02-02-2007, 12:58 PM
nn_step

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackX

Is it so hard to move your fingers? :D

PS: Im not against the innovations :nono:

I have absolutely no problems using my fingers, however I want more performance and greater speed
and I have no problem going to use the Command interface to get something done.
02-02-2007, 01:03 PM
BlackX

Quote:

Originally Posted by nn_step

I have absolutely no problems using my fingers, however I want more performance and greater speed
and I have no problem going to use the Command interface to get something done.

Relax ;) read my edited post.
02-02-2007, 01:10 PM
Kobalt

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackX

Thats very american. Of course moving your finger is very hard work. You can even loose some calories (that would be pitty). I have better idea: If you make a computer which is controled by your jaws, you wouldnt need to make breaks between meals. :rolleyes:

Wow, thats very Lithuanian. :rolleyes:
02-02-2007, 01:12 PM
BlackX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kobalt

Wow, thats very Lithuanian. :rolleyes:

How can you know that?
02-02-2007, 01:14 PM
Kobalt

How can you know that American's are lazy and fat? (Which is essentially what you said in your post).
02-02-2007, 01:19 PM
Caparroz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kobalt

How can you know that American's are lazy and fat? (Which is essentially what you said in your post).

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...30/ai_77400364

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in628877.shtml

http://www.google.com.br/search?hl=p...a+Google&meta=

Lazy? Absolutely not. Fat? Definitely yes.
02-02-2007, 01:23 PM
BlackX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kobalt

How can you know that American's are lazy and fat? (Which is essentially what you said in your post).

Are you seriuos? My friend you should read papers. USA is the fatest country in the world. And as I see nobody gives a damn, thats the problem.

I dont want to go there so dont push me ;)
02-02-2007, 01:24 PM
nn_step

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackX

Are you seriuos? My friend you should read papers. USA is the fatest country in the world. And as I see nobody gives a damn, thats the problem.

I dont want to go there so dont push me ;)

learn not to make generalities based on random polls
02-02-2007, 01:29 PM
BlackX

Quote:

Originally Posted by nn_step

learn not to make generalities based on random polls

Lets go back on topic cause its not funny any more.

Somebody land him a sense of humour...
02-02-2007, 01:31 PM
tcG

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackX

Lets go back on topic cause its not funny any more.

Somebody land him a sense of humour...

Lithuanians are fat and lazy.

Do I see anybody laughing?
02-02-2007, 01:31 PM
Stuperman

Quote:

Originally Posted by mursaat

Wow also impressive is which hardware moves that. Even with the whole Google Earth database cached on local discs it zooms really fast. And the Gaudi photographs movement is really smooth.

According to the article, it's not google earth, it's an open source NASA one, but I do agree with you, that's one beefy system.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcG

Lithuanians are fat and lazy.

Do I see anybody laughing?

YES!!!!

HAHAHAHAHahahahah

J/K, I know, just couldn't help fanning flames
02-02-2007, 01:37 PM
HiJon89

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackX

Thats very american. Of course moving your finger is very hard work. You can even loose some calories (that would be pitty). I have better idea: If you make a computer which is controled by your jaws, you wouldnt need to make breaks between meals. :rolleyes:

That's why the average life expectancy in the US is 10 years longer for men than in Lithuania. Maybe the average life expectancy in your country was brought down when Lithuania had the highest suicide rate in the world in the year 2000. Your country must really blow if everyone wants to kill themselves :stick:
02-02-2007, 01:38 PM
BlackX

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcG

Lithuanians are fat and lazy.

Do I see anybody laughing?

:ROTF: good one!
02-02-2007, 01:38 PM
nn_step

Quote:

Originally Posted by HiJon89

That's why the average life expectancy in the US is 10 years longer for men than in Lithuania. Maybe the average life expectancy in your country was brought down when Lithuania had the highest suicide rate in the world in the year 2000. Your country must really blow if everyone wants to kill themselves :stick:

oh snap :eek:
02-02-2007, 01:42 PM
BlackX

Quote:

Originally Posted by HiJon89

That's why the average life expectancy in the US is 10 years longer for men than in Lithuania. Maybe the average life expectancy in your country was brought down when Lithuania had the highest suicide rate in the world in the year 2000. Your country must really blow if everyone wants to kill themselves :stick:

LOL Im making my country famous :D

Dont you think that eating fast food 3 times a day is slow suicide? :banana:
02-02-2007, 01:43 PM
nn_step

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackX

LOL Im making my country famous :D

Dont you think that eating fast food 3 times a day is slow suicide? :banana:

at the same time, I have yet to meet a person to eats fast food three times a day in my entire life.
02-02-2007, 01:46 PM
Thrilla

lol I actually tried the thing where a guy was eating McDonalds for a month, after 3 days I was pretty sick hahaha...

Even if they do make a smaller version, say 24" touch screen it would be awesome! I'll buy one when it comes out and cost less than 5 grand.
02-02-2007, 01:47 PM
BlackX

Quote:

Originally Posted by nn_step

at the same time, I have yet to meet a person to eats fast food three times a day in my entire life.

hey ppl why dont you go and see one good movie called "Supersize me"? Then we wont need to argue on this anymore.
02-02-2007, 01:48 PM
Skrips

Cool, I want one! :thumbsup:

And on a side note, I am an American, and I am not fat...but I am lazy :D
02-02-2007, 01:48 PM
nn_step

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackX

hey ppl why dont you go and see one good movie called "Supersize me"? Then we wont need to argue on this anymore.

I have seen it but it isn't a reflection of what everyone does.
02-02-2007, 01:48 PM
Thrilla

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackX

hey ppl why dont you go and see one good movie called "Supersize me"? Then we wont need to argue on this anymore.

ya that's the movie. Don't try it though it's really really bad for you, and the beef tasted like cardboard after the first day.
02-02-2007, 01:56 PM
Soulburner

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lead Head

Some paralyzed people DO have a chip put into their brain which allows them to move a cursor on a computer, but not much else :)

So you saw that Discovery thing too huh?

This reminded me a lot of that...the police station of the future had screens just like this.
02-02-2007, 01:59 PM
BlackX

Quote:

Originally Posted by nn_step

I have seen it but it isn't a reflection of what everyone does.

Yes, ONLY about 40% does...
02-02-2007, 02:03 PM
Soulburner

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackX

Yes, ONLY about 40% does...

Can you please stop it with the America is Fat junk and stay on topic please?

Thanks.
02-02-2007, 02:04 PM
BlackX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soulburner

Can you please stop it with the America is Fat junk and stay on topic please?

Thanks.

Thats what I wanted to do many times before.
02-02-2007, 02:13 PM
HiJon89

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackX

Dont you think that eating fast food 3 times a day is slow suicide? :banana:

Living is slow suicide.

Back to topic: I really wanna play FPS on one of those.... BOOM HEADSHOT!!!
02-02-2007, 02:16 PM
Canibuz

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackX

Thats very american. Of course moving your finger is very hard work. You can even loose some calories (that would be pitty). I have better idea: If you make a computer which is controled by your jaws, you wouldnt need to make breaks between meals. :rolleyes:

Hey fat people need loving too

ps i am not fat
02-02-2007, 02:25 PM
RyderOCZ

While watching that...I picture the military being very interested in something like that.

Imagine a tech back at the command post manipulating and moving the various feeds from video/satellite imagery to show the Generals/Commanders of the battle area and how fast it would be to decipher the info and come up with a plan of action.

That demo was just bad ass as far as I am concerned...I could see many uses for that on my wall :D

<---------- only 11,513 more to catch up with NN ;) :ROTF:
02-02-2007, 02:31 PM
xb1az3x

I was at Wired Nextfest last summer and they had a display very similar to this for the military. They were demonstrating how it could be used to track troops and vehicles on a map/satellite image of the battlefield. When you touched the screen where a troop was it would give real time heart rate and other info on the soldiers health. Very very cool stuff.
02-02-2007, 02:33 PM
nn_step

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyderOCZ

That demo was just bad ass as far as I am concerned...I could see many uses for that on my wall :D

<---------- only 11,513 more to catch up with NN ;) :ROTF:

Yeah but your uses of it aren't to be heard by small children :p:
ask an admin, you can have my entire post count. It doesn't matter to me
02-02-2007, 02:41 PM
Kobalt

BlackX,
Your generalizing an entire society based off of a few articles you may have read back in Lithuania is not appreciated here as you can see. You clearly have never been to America and you have no clue what you're talking about. So, either come here and see for yourself that people are not all fat and lazy or be quiet.
Thanks

Back on topic...
Anyone wanna guess how much these cost? While I don't think these screens will replace a keyboard and mouse, they definitly have their niche. I imagine they would be prefered by photo/video editors and web designers. Ex: sometimes when I'm editing photos I wish I could just draw on the screen rather than recropping something 3 times to get it exact. Other applications could be military, medical, air traffic control, ports, airports, etc...basically anything where a lot of things/people need to be kept track of. For instance, you could have an overview of an airport and touch a plane to view its status and maybe even give it orders! I think they used something like this in the Matrix :).
02-02-2007, 02:46 PM
Vapor

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackX

hey ppl why dont you go and see one good movie called "Supersize me"? Then we wont need to argue on this anymore.

I've seen the movie X-Men, and they're Americans too :p:

I hope someone comes out with a multi-touch touchpad....screens are too big to get that close to, IMO.
02-02-2007, 02:57 PM
BlackX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kobalt

BlackX,
Your generalizing an entire society based off of a few articles you may have read back in Lithuania is not appreciated here as you can see. You clearly have never been to America and you have no clue what you're talking about. So, either come here and see for yourself that people are not all fat and lazy or be quiet.
Thanks

I dont want to offend anybody. I have many friends in USA and Im not aginst this nation. It was sarcasm and its your problem if you dont understand it.

On topic. 2 Years ago I saw something similar in CeBIT at Intels stand. Now its more advanced and looks like we will be able to buy this stuff in the near future. :woot:
02-02-2007, 02:58 PM
RyderOCZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by nn_step

Yeah but your uses of it aren't to be heard by small children :p:
ask an admin, you can have my entire post count. It doesn't matter to me

As to the first part: :slapass: :slap: :nono: :slapass: :slap:

I could care less about post count too....I just like giving you grief :eek: :D ;) :toast:
02-02-2007, 03:19 PM
idiotec

This argument is ridiculous. Everyone knows that Lithuanians are in perfect shape. Just look at their elite Olympic team. :banana:
02-02-2007, 04:04 PM
[XC] leviathan18

OMG I WANT ONE

perfect present gift for me LOL
02-02-2007, 04:56 PM
Soulburner

Sounds like some of you guys could use a tablet. I got my sister one for her birthday and she loves it. I almost got hooked after an hour of getting used to it.

Makes a mouse feel rather primitive when it comes to drawing.
02-02-2007, 06:26 PM
STEvil

mice are not for drawing.

Fine for chopping, but not drawing.
02-02-2007, 08:01 PM
deathman20

Ya I've been following there screen tech for a while.

It does have practical use though. While home computers I doubt I could see it for a while (unless it becomes laying on your desktop) but work uses I see many uses for it. Wish I could use that type of tech at work, it be cool, besides the fact customers would love to see that type of tech but it would improve productivity. I mean hell drawing on a screen for a sketch to make something im all for that. Expecailly for my position 1 big screen is where its at.
02-02-2007, 08:39 PM
Weedsqueezer

The screen tech is old (soulburner mentioned tablets) the sheer size of the tablet is new. what really blew me away in that video was the software! WOW that musta took a long time to build. And a very long time to learn to use it as fast as those guys! wow that was sweet
02-03-2007, 03:53 AM
saaya

wow...
02-03-2007, 09:56 AM
Fr3ak

I dont think its old tech. Notice that the screen is able to handle multiple touched points at once. Amd thats not just the OS or app being used.

I would already be satisfied with a data-glove :)
02-03-2007, 01:51 PM
Helmore

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weedsqueezer

The screen tech is old (soulburner mentioned tablets) the sheer size of the tablet is new. what really blew me away in that video was the software! WOW that musta took a long time to build. And a very long time to learn to use it as fast as those guys! wow that was sweet

This is not exactly old tech, it's quite a different way of sensing where there is contact. The screen can be manipulated by many fingers, they say it can already be used with more then 20 contact points at the same time, which makes it possible to use it with 2 persons at the same time and the screen is also able to sense how hard you are pressing on it (which is usefull when you are trying to sketch for example). This can all be done because of this new way of "sensing". It is explained a little better in the article where it states:

Quote:

Originally Posted by FastCompany.com

Inspiration came in the form of an ordinary glass of water. Han noticed when he looked down on the water that light reflected differently in areas where his hand contacted the glass. He remembered that in fiber optics, light bounces on the inside of the cable until it emerges from the other end miles away. If the surface was made of glass, and the light was interrupted by, say, a finger, the light wouldn't bounce anymore, it would diffuse--some of it would bleed into the finger, some would shoot straight down, which was happening with his water glass. Physicists call the principle "frustrated total internal reflection" (it sounds like something your therapist might say).

Han decided to put these errant light beams to work. It took him just a few hours to come up with a prototype. "You have to have skills to build," he says. "You can't be strictly theoretical. I felt fortunate. I walked into a lab with crude materials and walked out with a usable model."

He did it by retrofitting a piece of clear acrylic and attaching LEDs to the side, which provided the light source. To the back, he mounted an infrared camera. When Han placed his fingers on the makeshift screen, some light ricocheted straight down, just as he thought it would, and the camera captured the light image pixel for pixel. The harder he pressed, the more information the camera captured. Han theorized he could design software that would measure the shape and size of each contact and assign a series of coordinates that defined it. In essence, each point of contact became a distinct region on a graph. "It's like a thumbprint scanner, blown up in scale and encapsulating all 10 or more fingers. It converts touch to light." It could also scale images appropriately, so if he pulled a photo apart with two fingers, the image would grow.
02-03-2007, 02:13 PM
phelan1777

That was sweet.
02-03-2007, 03:36 PM
s1rrah

Quote:

Originally Posted by sladesurfer

Let the snake thing play, it's an add.
The video's after....Can you say Minority Report!! WOW!!

Video: http://fastcompany.com/video/general...tivepixel.html

Article: http://www.fastcompany.com/subscr/11...touchthis.html

with that as the norm, we'll have sleek, svelt and well sculpted geeks instead of scrawny, oily, flaky ones.

(i'm all for it)

:)