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s7 said the pictures are fake
even thought they was taken with a Canon Canon DIGITAL IXUS 40 at 2007:01:31 23:20:42
the reason why they are fake take a look at how many threads
also look at the package and the name
Damn! And I thought that we were going to see some benchmarks soon!
i wish that they was , no one wants them to be real more then me
but i have to call what i see , or seem to see
i want to be wrong , but s7 called them fake , and i think that i have to take his word , besides what i seen in the pictures
Yeap, they are fake! Only stepping A are ES. Stepping B is for the market.
Opteron 1120? AM2? SSE3 and no SSE4?
grab CPU-Z version 1.2 and it'll see AMD dual cores as Intel chips ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by brentpresley
also, what's to say that stepping A wasn't a mistake and they needed another revision, rev B?
2.8 stock clock is hopeful though.
Completely true.Quote:
Originally Posted by brentpresley
Camera shots are extremely hard to fake. I personally believe it.
he-heQuote:
Originally Posted by Shadowmage
i can simply make a program which will look like CPU-Z and be able to determine any future cpu architecture :D
but in tis case i beleive
it's time to see K8L "at work"
privet Lexagon'u ;)
if you go into that thread i linked to you will see other reasons why it is a fake , the numbers are not lined up corectly in the right spot
Not that hard :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowmage
And whether we like it or not, everything's possible.
P.S. Talking 'bout faked pics, when you just can't line-up things right you're in trouble.
Stup1d people faking pictures to get impressions/hits/clicks :slapass:
Hard to fake a camera shot, but not hard to fake the image that the camera is looking at.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowmage
fake or not it is not important until we see a bench
L2 512K*2 ?
Kuma ES?
http://pic.xfastest.com/sxs112/AMD/AgenaFX%20ES/3.jpg
or just mobo am2 with an old bios doesn't see second half of quadcoreQuote:
Originally Posted by sxs112
To me it looks very real, but time will tell I guess. One other thing that is odd, L1 Data and L1 Code is supposed to be 32kb per core, so CPU-Z would have to show L1 Data: 2 x 32kb and L1 Code: 2 x 32kb, not 2 x 64kb for both. This is because Agena/Kuma/entire star series only has 32kb of L1 instruction cache and 32kb of L1 data cache per core, atleast that is what AMD has always told us.
you are not rightQuote:
Originally Posted by Helmore
K8L and K8 has equal L1 size == 64k code and 64k data
where did you find 32kb value? :confused:
Yup you are right, I stand corrected, now just forget that I said anything:p:. I got my information here and some other sourced which I couldn't easily find back, but as you can read here (and many more links) it seems that will "K8L" have 64kb of L1 instruction cache and 64kb of Data cache. They also state it as such:Quote:
Originally Posted by MAS
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Originally Posted by RealWorldTech
Faking a camera shot is allot easier then you think. Take a screen shot with CPU-z open, open the screen shot up in your favorite photo editing software, save the picture, set it as the background, then kill explorer. Not terribly hard.
At least we learned how to fake CPUz screen shots. Now, mods pls lock this useless thread.
Real source is here: http://forum.effizienzgurus.de/showp...7&postcount=74
As i wrote in the K8L-Thread, these pics are from a friend whos working at AMD. In the past i got many true infos about coming AMD products from him, but also a few which were wrong. I trust him, cause hes a good friend (even he is over 40 years old^^). I dont know why he told me to hide the v-core, but i know why i he told me to do the same with the code-name.
Think again, if i wanted to fake a pic like that, i would take a quadcore, name him Agena or Altair, oc him to 3,4GHz and put a watermark an the pic with "w0mbat is the king".
All these times, you were asked to provide a link to validation and this is all you came up with.
Sorry, hard to trust you.
And it is even harder to trust someone who spams around.
U can ask me how long u like, but its nor my cpu, so i cant do a valdation. I asked him and if i get a link i will show it.Quote:
Originally Posted by alucasa
BTW: Why du u call me a spammer?
A spammer (in this case) is someone who posts the exact same message on various places in order to achieve something.
That is what you have been doing, sir.
Chill out Alucasa.... them are fighting words.
i don't blame him for posting the news several places , we can all get caught up in news and post like crazy about it , i just don't see amd releasing a desktop version of the cpu at the same time as the server version , amd does not have the compacity for that , even intel released it's server version of the conroe first , then the conroe , and then the mobile version , so if intel can have a compacity problem , i don't see why amd would not have the same problemQuote:
Originally Posted by alucasa
by the way the same thing about posting news on a on coming cpu has happened to me too , especially about being wrong about it
I´ve postet these pics in the forums i visit every day. And u dont know me, so i cant earn anything from u. Im just a nikname.Quote:
Originally Posted by alucasa
I won't say that those two screenshots are fake because I do not believe they are fake. However, you should realize that you do need more proof.Quote:
Originally Posted by w0mbat
wombat, you posted fake brisbane screenshots, so basically, i will assume that everything you post, is fake...
stop whining acusa, if it turns out his screen wasnt fake then u will be happy cuz you´ve seen it as one of the first. so stop whining bout spam. and have u read computer tech news sites and news forums lately? look there when u want to see spamm..even the niveau in xs news forum is hard to top even by the Inq lately...so much bs and so called news which turn out to be crap and are falsified 2 hours later by another "news"...iam blathering...
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Originally Posted by cky2k6
and ur posting dumb comments so i must suppose any of your following post will be worthless too.
I´ve never posted faked Brisbane ss :nono:Quote:
Originally Posted by cky2k6
I seriously don't see why people need to slam a member who tries to bring some news to the forum...
As of late the only thing I see around here is fake, restrictive, too expensive, too late, WTF, useless and what not.... try to give some constructive criticism instead of the usual bickering...
It's really getting annoying to enter every single thread and read the same crap comments over and over again....
i did :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by w0mbat
w0mbat,
in a nutshell: we are waiting for bench results from your amd friend if he exists in nature
Ok, i will come back with a validation or a bench.
A validation is all I ask. (Bench, I don't care really. Who's better or whatnot.., ach ~)Quote:
Originally Posted by w0mbat
Meanwhile, I apologize that I've called you "a spammer".
I for one DOES belive in Wombats pic, but I´m also waiting for benches ;)
Thanks for sharing!
If only more people were as civil, we'd see fewer flame-fests :clap: :clap: :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by alucasa
This is not an AMD AgenaFX :stick:
CPUZ show only two cores :fact:
Could be a fake or true, but can't be a Quad :nono:
That's odd that CPUZ don't report SSE4 & the name is reported as a Opty 1220, clocked at 2.8ghz too.
Yeah, it's starting to look like the [H]ardforums here!....Quote:
Originally Posted by NightCrawler™
That is because it probably is a Kuma ES, which is supposed to clock between the 2,3-2,9 GHz IIRC and the 'wrong' information by CPU-Z is most likely because CPU-Z doesn't recognize this chip yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by madcho
cpuz can recognize SSE4 :stick:
But K8L dosnt have SSE4. It has SSE4A or SSE128 and thats different to Intels SSE4.Quote:
Originally Posted by madcho
What I don't get is,
the Brisbane core is Model B, Stepping 1, Ext Model 6B.
That one is Model B, Stepping 1, Ext Model B3.
Why a latter CPU would have a lower Ext Model id ?
madcho, cpu-z would reconize SSE4A if it knows what it is.
If SSE4A != SSE4 != SSSE3 it may simply ignore it.
Do u think i got it? Im not a cpu expert, i just know whats MHz and how to overclock :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by doompc
And why its called Opteron 1220? I dont think AMD will name the K8L cpus same as the K8 cpus. I would name it Opteron 2440 or something that sounds more powerfull.
SSE4A SSE4 SSSE3 are all very different thingsQuote:
Originally Posted by doompc
w0mbat, show us some benchs if that's true :stick:
he doesnt have the cpu.Quote:
Originally Posted by madcho
The Opteron 1220 is a dual core cpu that works at 2.8GHz, since cpu-z doesn't know wich cpu is it calls it an Opteron...Quote:
Originally Posted by w0mbat
Good news is that AMD's roadmap says K8L comes first to the Opterons, including 1xxx series (AM2 socket). So we might be able to get 1xxx AM2 K8L Opterons in late Q2, before the launch of Stars series.
Question is, there is no CPU with Ext Model B3 on market, that's what intrigues me.
Did your friend hide the vcore or he asked you to do?
Do you know the vcore of that cpu?
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Originally Posted by doompc
that's what has me confused
K8L voltage isn't under NDA is it?:confused:
as far as B3 ... isn't that 130nm Opteron S940?
This is what CPUZ said in AMD forum.
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Originally Posted by cpuz
Haha, now that's a good news bite! :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
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Originally Posted by LOE
Nobody knows for sure yet, so my guess is his butt.
1210 is a 1.8GHz part.Quote:
Originally Posted by LOE
Nope, AMD model numbering scheme:Quote:
that means AMD will leave much headroom for clock boosts, at least in their numbering scheme
Say 1260 will be 3.2 Ghz, the 1280 3.4 Ghz and so on
pengizzle where did you get that number?
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/..._14266,00.htmlQuote:
Next-Generation AMD Opteron™ processors are identified by a four digit model number, XYZZ, where:
X—indicates the maximum scalability of the processor.
1000 Series = 1-way servers and workstations
2000 Series = Up to 2-way servers and workstations
8000 Series = Up to 8-way servers and workstations
Y—indicates socket generation. This digit is always ‘2’ for AMD Opteron processors for Socket F (1207) and Socket AM2.
1000 Series in Socket AM2 = Models 12XX
2000 Series in Socket F (1207) = Model 22XX
8000 Series in Socket F (1207) = Model 82XX
ZZ—indicates relative performance within the series.
An AMD Opteron Processor Model 2218 is higher performing than an AMD Opteron™ Processor Model 2216, etc.
AMD to intro four Barcelona parts in second quarter
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37390
Yes, I think u wont see any L3-Cache in a K8-CPU.
So what's gonna be your next move, maybe you should meet with with that old reliable friend and give him a friendly nose-breaking (if such a guy exist of course).
Why should i do this? The next thing i do is waiting for a validation or a superpi bench.Quote:
Originally Posted by LowRun
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Originally Posted by w0mbat
Maybe because Franck (AKA cpuz and the programmer of cpuz) said it's fake and your friend has been failing to provide a validation for three days now which is something you can get in one click.
cpuz was talking about no L3 cache on k8, that doesn't include K8L, now does it?
wait for the validation is the solution ...
On the fake image is listed a K8 CPU, which means that the application recognized it as a K8. If it is a K8 CPU, then the application will not search after L3 cache.Quote:
Originally Posted by Helmore
Fake some CPUZ won't become your dreams come true guy's :stick:
you didn't even try to center "Barcelona"
it's not fake, it's just flood
SERIOUSLY! Your so fake.... haha I feel you brother.Quote:
Originally Posted by NightCrawler™
I think you will have the cpu in your hand before that happens..Quote:
Originally Posted by madcho
HE also said he wasnt very sure that it would display, he wasnt 100% sure.. kinda pretty sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Helmore
~Mike