8800GTX 3dmark03 Vista vs. XP

i installed the leaked 100.30 drivers for the 8800GTX for x86 Vista, and here are my comparisons between XP (97.92 drivers) and Vista in 03 (06 wouldnt run without a missed dx9 dll?).

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/7...dmark03ee4.png
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/8613/xp3dmark03dj5.png

stock speed on the GTX, and 2.6ghz for the AMD. i didnt tweak anything to get the score higher (minus no sound tests... no audigy 2 drivers for vista, unless im blind), its all for comparing.
of course 3dmark03 is still a dx9 app, so you cant compare that, but i guess these new drivers boosted dx9 performance anyways?

anyone else had a chance to test vista's 3d performance in comparison to xp's? im not exactly confident in these scores, as i only ran each once and didnt check for consistancy :/

3k gain is a lot :eek:

Have you tried comparing '01 and '05 ? :)

I did tested Vista (32 bit) with 6600DDR2 with 3D01 and it was slightly faster and yes 3D06 won’t go, another guy here tested Company of heroes with X1900XT and it was much faster but that time it was 64 bit

Edit : @XP run you used same resolution in the background as the test ? although it won’t make such big difference but it will be more like apples to apples

:) finally something to prove what 'a few' people have been saying..

The problem you are having with 06 is because of Vista's nature and it has caused problems for many applications but yes it does appear to more efficiently perform in benchmarks

Hmm, Vista x64 sux on the other hand. I lost like 2-3K in 3dmark03 and like 10K in 01 using 7300Gt ddr3. You got me curious so I will test and see if non DX10 cards gain anything under x86 vista

By the way, anyone knows a working solution to overclocking nvidia cards under Vista? Nothing worked under x64 vista

Kiwi, what about Nibitor ;)

3k is a lot. Would also like to see 01 and 05 compared.

Seeing stuff like this makes me want to jump on Vista Ultimate next week. Driver support still isn't 100% though is it? I mean from Creative, ATI, Nvidia etc.

I am also wondering if going 32bit is the wisest choice or should I go straight to 64bit to finally take advantage of my cpu being able to do so.

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Originally Posted by lawrywild

Kiwi, what about Nibitor ;)

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You mean bios edit? Sure that works but how about without bios mods? :p:

Well if you buy Upgrade or Full Retail copies, you get x86 and x64. I get a Home Premium Upgrade copy next week :)

Ye 3k are from bugged 2003 - read the whole tread :
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=130155
And my last conclusions :)

Hi

Please can You test compare 01 score ?

Regards

Martin

Can we see test performance as well for 03 GT2,3 and 4 ?

Regards

Andy

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Hmm, Vista x64 sux on the other hand. I lost like 2-3K in 3dmark03 and like 10K in 01 using 7300Gt ddr3. You got me curious so I will test and see if non DX10 cards gain anything under x86 vista

By the way, anyone knows a working solution to overclocking nvidia cards under Vista? Nothing worked under x64 vista

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doesnt G80 use different drivers?

i'll try more tests later. no time :(

does anybody know how to oc the 8800er on Vista?

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doesnt G80 use different drivers?

i'll try more tests later. no time :(

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Yep, they do

STM: Yes there is audigy 2 sound drivers trust me they are out there on the site.

BTW nice scores. I haven't run anything besides 05 and 06 in Vista.

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BTW nice scores. I haven't run anything besides 05 and 06 in Vista.

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How did those compare against XP?

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3k gain is a lot :eek:

Have you tried comparing '01 and '05 ? :)

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I think the only supported for Vista is the 06 atm.

Nice results.
I tried also but benching time ago with my old 7600GT and Vista RC1 and vista resuts were 100 points beyond the XP ones.

I've made a little compare between the new 100.40, 100.30 and 100.51 drivers
Single 8800gtx@stock 575/1800 and 24/7 PC - E6600@3900 2x1gb @ 980 4-4-3-4

3dmark03 100.30 36268 p
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9...2003lt0.th.jpg


3dmark03 100.40 36353 p
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9...3newlz3.th.jpg

3dmark03 100.40 + 120mhz pci-e :) 36432 p
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/7...new2ib6.th.jpg

3dmark03 100.51 + 120mhz pci-e :) 36562 p
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/6...0051br2.th.jpg


3dmark2005 100.30 18665 p
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3...kr05ym5.th.jpg

3dmark2005 100.40 18635 p
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6...5newka3.th.jpg

3dmark2005 100.51 +120mhz pci-e 18775 p
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/4...0051op5.th.jpg

Strange thing happened this weekend, I reformatted from XP to Vista Ultimate and went from 57641 to 49514 on 3D Mark 01. I was using the 100.40 drivers on Vista and the 97.92's for XP. I was so disgusted I wiped the drive clean and the copy of Vista with my AZZ and threw it in the trash. Mabye i missed something... Better get the rubber gloves out.

32 or 64 bit Sin?

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32 or 64 bit Sin?

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I was running the Vista 32 Final 6K.

I am willing to wipe the drive and give it another try if you think i really messed up.

how is vista x64 scoring?

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how is vista x64 scoring?

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At this point, like a LEPER at a MISS WORLD competition :p:

yeah I see.. lower but X64 is nice anyway, just the good damn java that doesnt work

WOW cant belive that Vista is scoreing better for some ppl .

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WOW cant belive that Vista is scoreing better for some ppl .

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yeah after extensive tweaking.

I still think I will give it a miss until I don't loose about 75% of my peripheral
components and applications.

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yeah after extensive tweaking.

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Indeed. I have yet to score closer then 300 poitns in 06 to XP. While im up for tweaking I just haven't touched it yet.

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Indeed. I have yet to score closer then 300 poitns in 06 to XP. While im up for tweaking I just haven't touched it yet.

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but remember tweaked Vista cant even touch tweaked XP

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but remember tweaked Vista cant even touch tweaked XP

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that is mostly because of:
1) lack of tweak development time
2) The prefetch tracker log, that gets in the way
3) The huge amount of crap you have to wade through to tweak it

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that is mostly because of:
1) lack of tweak development time
2) The prefetch tracker log, that gets in the way
3) The huge amount of crap you have to wade through to tweak it

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No LODs in Vista :D

Ya I know a tweaked Vista will be better then XP, I just haven't had the time to figure out what does what really. Hope to do so though at least figure out where the tweaking comes into play that is.

If anyone is interested in DX9 card scores here you go.

System:
Conroe 3.6Ghz (9x400), 7900gtx stock

Vista Ultimate x64

Drivers:
Vista 100.59 beta
Xp 93.71 whql


3D:


Vista <--> XP
01
:eek: 38689 <--> 52924

03
26346 <--> 27026

05
11844 <--> 11848

06
6675 <--> 6694

UT dria
103 <--> 127
UT Goliath
164 <--> 224

01 score way worse on vista

Gameplay is also not as good as on XP, kinda lagging. Might be also because of poor X-fi drivers.


Can attach only 5 pics :/

Here is the rest (XP)
03
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/9616/xp03rt1.jpg

05
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6246/xp05ee0.jpg

06
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/6600/xp06hg6.jpg

Wow it have a pretty good diference from Xp to Vista :toast:

OMFG
With the new 101.41 driver and the ability to overclok GPU. I tested quick 3dmark2003 with all 24/7 E6600@3900 and single 8800gtx@650/2100 and guess what, i was shocked, openGL performance is far beyond imagination improved - 45k with single card OMG with no soft optimizations i.e LODs or priorities and pci@100mhz

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/7...2100di6.th.jpg

I still can't believe it :slobber:

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OMFG
With the new 101.41 driver and the ability to overclok GPU. I tested quick 3dmark2003 with all 24/7 E6600@3900 and single 8800gtx@650/2100 and guess what, i was shocked, openGL performance is far beyond imagination improved - 45k with single card OMG with no soft optimizations i.e LODs or priorities and pci@100mhz

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/7...2100di6.th.jpg

I still can't believe it :slobber:

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Damn what where u getting before?

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OMFG
With the new 101.41 driver and the ability to overclok GPU. I tested quick 3dmark2003 with all 24/7 E6600@3900 and single 8800gtx@650/2100 and guess what, i was shocked, openGL performance is far beyond imagination improved - 45k with single card OMG with no soft optimizations i.e LODs or priorities and pci@100mhz

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/7...2100di6.th.jpg

I still can't believe it :slobber:

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wheres this driver available for DL?

http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_do...etadriver.html

nevermind

Nice score Rattle.

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Damn what where u getting before?

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Under XP with much more overclock 670/2160 ,4050mhz CPU, 130mhz PCI-e and all tweaks + lod - little above 39k
now 45 with first run. Tomorrow i'll try to bench a little :)

hmmm
wonder if I should get Vista

OMG again

46k single Air cooled 8800@660/2120 E6600@4020mhz ram 1010 4-4-3-4 pci-e @120mhz

http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/5...4020jj9.th.jpg

I still can't belive this is happening:rolleyes: There are places, where i can see similar FPS to SLI runs:banana:

2005 same conditions, without LOD 20842

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/1...4010cw5.th.jpg

What software do u use to oc the gpu in vista!

im guess the nvidia drivers like they siad a couple post up

what's the lod?
and where can you find it in vista :P

atitool 0,27 beta works in vista

DStealth
How much is your Vista tweaked?

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Originally Posted by hot_fifty

DStealth
How much is your Vista tweaked?

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Not tweaked in general. It was just a fresh install of Vista Ultimate and all services and everything running.