new ASUS P5B DLX WiFI Bios(1004) wacked my board, need assistance!

new ASUS P5B DLX WiFI Bios(1004) wacked my board, need assistance!

I was running on 0802 for a while with no problems with fsb@500. I loaded the 0910 bios the other day and it wouldnt hold my OC, so i reverted back to 0802 and everything was fine.

I have no idea why but I decided to try the new 1004 bios on the asus FTP. Same results as 0802, it wont even boot with a 400fsb overclock. I have no idea why. Now when I try to revert back to 0802. It wont let me . It keeps stating "current bios is a newer then the one your trying to flash"

I've tried AFUDOS(dos), EZ FLASH(bios) and ASUS UPDATE(windows)

they all give me the same message. I think this is written into the new 1004 that you cant revert back to an older bios.

guys I really need some help, I cant OC at all anymore. Anybody have any solutions ? Im really getting frustrated here. Maby 1 could modify the time stamp of the 0802 bios? if so? how? im desperate

did you check the downgrade option?

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Originally Posted by GrimReaper

did you check the downgrade option?

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yea it gives me the same option but tells me to use AFUDOS if i want continue to flash to an older version. I tried both versions of AFUDOS , the one supplied on the cd and the one on the asus website

no dice. thanks for the reply

just do DOS flash

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Originally Posted by dinos22

just do DOS flash

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Who is this DOS you speak of, is he friendly :p: :rolleyes: :stick:

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Originally Posted by alpha0ne

Who is this DOS you speak of, is he friendly :p: :rolleyes: :stick:

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you know that floppy dlck thingie :p: :D

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Originally Posted by Aldy402

yea it gives me the same option but tells me to use AFUDOS if i want continue to flash to an older version. I tried both versions of AFUDOS , the one supplied on the cd and the one on the asus website

no dice. thanks for the reply

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now this is the first I am hearing about this,, I hope someone else can shed some light into this :confused:

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Originally Posted by dinos22

just do DOS flash

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I have tried DOS flash

AFUDOS, same error msg
Asus seems to have implemented this on there new bios
I had no problem reverting from 0910

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Originally Posted by dinos22

you know that floppy dlck thingie :p: :D

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I got one of them :eek: :D

Hey Aldy402 I think you need to use an older version of AFUDOS to flash to an older bios, hope you get it fixed soon :)

I used usb stick and flashed from bios to older version.

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Originally Posted by alpha0ne

I got one of them :eek: :D

Hey Aldy402 I think you need to use an older version of AFUDOS to flash to an older bios, hope you get it fixed soon :)

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yea i've tried that, I used the significantly older version on the driver cd and version 226 from the website

both no dice

UPDATE: I just looked on the asus website and it states

P5B Deluxe Release BIOS 1004
**Please update AsusUpdate to V7.09.02 or later prior making this update.**
**Do not use AsusUpdate to downgrade BIOS. For such need, please use EZFlash or AFUDOS instead**
1 Enhance memory compatibility
2 Support CONROE E0 CPU(FSB 1333)


for some reason, AFUDOS or EZflash wont let me revert even after ASUS sed it will. Im at work right now so I cant try again. Maby they updated the 1004 bios and reuploaded it? Im not sure but ill let try around 4. I have not however downloaded the new asusupdate

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Originally Posted by loc.o

I used usb stick and flashed from bios to older version.

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i was able to revert from any bios until the new 1004 bios
I even reverted to 0802 from the 0910 bios

its something new implemented in the new 1004

try reflashing 1004 again with everything loaded to defaults and clear cmos and start from scratch.

i remember that my DFI board had to be flashed a couple of times to get the new bios working.
nothing to lose anyway.

i finally got it back to 0802, had to download the oldest version possible of AFUDOS from 2002

here it is just in case some1 runs into the same problem, thanks for everybody's input

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/flash/AFUDOS207.zip

Hey I flashed the new 1004 bios from 0804 and know my computer wont post. Tried resetting cmos a few times, nothing worked, any suggestions ?

How do you fit the boot files, afudos and the BIOS .ROM onto one floppy disk?

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Originally Posted by rvd

Hey I flashed the new 1004 bios from 0804 and know my computer wont post. Tried resetting cmos a few times, nothing worked, any suggestions ?

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rest the cmos again with the power supply off and remove the cmos battery for 10 seconds , then try to flash back

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Originally Posted by monkeypants

How do you fit the boot files, afudos and the BIOS .ROM onto one floppy disk?

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you don't
make 1 boot up disk
and have a separate disk for afudos and the rom file
just swap after booting with the floppy

Ahh, genius! Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Aldy402

rest the cmos again with the power supply off and remove the cmos battery for 10 seconds , then try to flash back

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Damn tried it, but it didn't work, still won't post.

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Originally Posted by rvd

Damn tried it, but it didn't work, still won't post.

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do the cmos clear while reseating the cpu and memory
worth a shot

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Originally Posted by dinos22

you know that floppy dlck thingie :p: :D

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Heh...

"It's called a dlck drive I think. But it's only for 3.5" floppy dlcks."

I haven't had much luck overclocking with the newer bioses either. It's 804 for me.

Has new BIOS 1004 helped anyone's OC or at least not hurt?

Ill proly flash to 1004 and try it with the E4300 Im experimenting with.

update:

Well flashed to 1004 and so far, have not been able to keep 400x8 Orthos stable with around the same voltages as with 0804.
If I try a few more things and cant get 1004 to be orthos @ 400x8, then I'm going back to 0910 or 0804 on this board as well.

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Originally Posted by Ghostwind

Has new BIOS 1004 helped anyone's OC or at least not hurt?

Ill proly flash to 1004 and try it with the E4300 Im experimenting with.

update:

Well flashed to 1004 and so far, have not been able to keep 400x8 Orthos stable with around the same voltages as with 0804.
If I try a few more things and cant get 1004 to be orthos @ 400x8, then I'm going back to 0910 or 0804 on this board as well.

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yea seems the general consensus is that 1004 sucks for OC

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Originally Posted by Aldy402

yea seems the general consensus is that 1004 sucks for OC

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Yah, my E4300 is not Orthos stable with 1004 with the same settings as 0804.

I have to go get another floppy to flash back to 0804, having same problem you did and Ive also never had problem reverting back to earlier bios.

I havent tried E4300 on 0910 so Ill proly check that and see if it is as stable as 0804 was.

After a flash if you don't fully post, try only one stick of ram until you rasie your Vdim and re set and post cleanly and then replace the ram. Also bios 1004 and probably 910 need a extra notch of vcore to hit the same actual that earlier bioses did. Once I did all these things, 1004 is as stable if not more so, than anything that came before. main thing is more vcore. After that you can overclock quite nicely.

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Originally Posted by xgman

After a flash if you don't fully post, try only one stick of ram until you rasie your Vdim and re set and post cleanly and then replace the ram. Also bios 1004 and probably 910 need a extra notch of vcore to hit the same actual that earlier bioses did. Once I did all these things, 1004 is as stable if not more so, than anything that came before. main thing is more vcore. After that you can overclock quite nicely.

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you think it has anything to do with vdroop? maby different bios versions effect decrease/increase of vdroop?

I cant boot from my ide optical since flashing to 1004 :mad:

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Originally Posted by alpha0ne

I cant boot from my ide optical since flashing to 1004 :mad:

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ROFL why the :banana::banana::banana::banana: do you guys upgrade bioses just for the hell of it

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Originally Posted by dinos22

ROFL why the :banana::banana::banana::banana: do you guys upgrade bioses just for the hell of it

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always in search of better performance?

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Originally Posted by Aldy402

always in search of better performance?

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but it's already been said by first few people that it wasn't performing any better.....to me that sounds like a no no unless a bunch of other people come out and contradict that

to be honest the only thing worth a bios upgrade is a fix for poor RAM MHz clocking on 4:5 ratio

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Originally Posted by dinos22

but it's already been said by first few people that it wasn't performing any better.....to me that sounds like a no no unless a bunch of other people come out and contradict that

to be honest the only thing worth a bios upgrade is a fix for poor RAM MHz clocking on 4:5 ratio

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yea true, but a lot of ppl are in hopes of better fsb
but i guess the old saying is right

"if it aint broke, don't fix it"

444 > 333 thing also needs to be fixed :)

If we want change the 1004 bios for another, we have to wait for new one.

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Originally Posted by Aldy402

"if it aint broke, don't fix it"

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Yup, this is how I roll, I'm still chill with the 0711 bios. No probs for me, except a :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty e6600:rolleyes:

Downgrade is easy: download TNT-enFoRcEr.v.1.0. Upgrade from Asus Update programm bios(old bios) as usual. After restart you will see black screen, push reset, computer will star to search bios from file so you need to use some flash memory stick with old bios-file. And its all, folks.
PS sorry for my bed english ;)

okay help a noob out here.

startup load to floppy with bootdisk

get to a:\ prompt insert next floppy with afudos.exe

insert next floppy with 0804.rom on it .. and then what do I type in to get it to load the bios from the floppy?

thx.

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Originally Posted by rvd

okay help a noob out here.

startup load to floppy with bootdisk

get to a:\ prompt insert next floppy with afudos.exe

insert next floppy with 0804.rom on it .. and then what do I type in to get it to load the bios from the floppy?

thx.

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afudos /ip5bd0804.rom

How i cant get bakc to my old BIOS, this nwe one is not good for OC :s

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Originally Posted by nrmartinazzo

How i cant get bakc to my old BIOS, this nwe one is not good for OC :s

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try reading the thread

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Originally Posted by Aldy402

try reading the thread

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Thanks.. jejeje yes i posted until i read the thread: jejeje.. i have done!!!
Thnaks! again

Anyone kwons where i cant get 0910 BIOs for this mother? because i can't get iT to probe!

Plase i don't have diskete. anyone know how i can back. i've tried to bakc with a disc USB but the flash program told me taht de bios which i go to put is older than i have intalled...

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Originally Posted by dinos22

ROFL why the :banana::banana::banana::banana: do you guys upgrade bioses just for the hell of it

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In the hope that it will improve on the last bios that is far from perfect.................................Why else ???

I dont do anything "for the hell of it" re hardware, think before you post or is that 'just for the hell of it :p: :fact:

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Originally Posted by alpha0ne

In the hope that it will improve on the last bios that is far from perfect.................................Why else ???

I dont do anything "for the hell of it" re hardware, think before you post or is that 'just for the hell of it :p: :fact:

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jackass :p:

Yes i could came back to my old bios 0908, but now i've another problem, this bios don't remeber the configuration that i've made.
For example, i've finished to downgrade my bios and i reset my PC. it started normally, i go into the bios and i start to set my configuration. I put F10 and i save the setup.
Again the system start but i realise that the bios was ansetup :s please help me!!!!
I have the system all automatic

seems like they wont ever top the 804, which isnt that good anyways...

at least they are trying... heh.

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Originally Posted by Drager2

Downgrade is easy: download TNT-enFoRcEr.v.1.0. Upgrade from Asus Update programm bios(old bios) as usual. After restart you will see black screen, push reset, computer will star to search bios from file so you need to use some flash memory stick with old bios-file. And its all, folks.
PS sorry for my bed english ;)

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U're a life saver! :toast:

I downgraded with your method but i didn't got any blank screen on restart. Everything went normal.

BTW with this lousy 1004 bios my m/b didn't want to get 16X on pci-e, when oc'ed, by any means. Glad i get rid of it... :p:

I don't know what happend with my BIOS :s y update to this new BIOS ROM 1004 but it's not good for Overclock yet. So i downgrade to 0904 using a diskete, i flash the bios and load 0904 but when now i try to setup the bios it doesen't keep the config. Like the BIOS don't remeber the setup whitch i do!
Anyone know what i could do?
Thanks
And sorry about my english!

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Originally Posted by nrmartinazzo

I don't know what happend with my BIOS :s y update to this new BIOS ROM 1004 but it's not good for Overclock yet. So i downgrade to 0904 using a diskete, i flash the bios and load 0904 but when now i try to setup the bios it doesen't keep the config. Like the BIOS don't remeber the setup whitch i do!
Anyone know what i could do?
Thanks
And sorry about my english!

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Having the same issue.

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Originally Posted by rvd

Having the same issue.

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yea i had same issue as well
flash to 0711 and then flash again to 0802

that should work

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Originally Posted by Aldy402

yea i had same issue as well
flash to 0711 and then flash again to 0802

that should work

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Tried
0711 to 0804
0614 to 0804
0507 to 0804

same issue, is there a certain way to do it ?

alright finally got it back to 0804 with no side effects, thanks for the help.

Edit!!!

Please i need help.
I'm using 1004 Bios version, i'm trying to goback to 0910 version, but i can't.
I use afudos 221 and afudos 226.
I boot from a floppy with ms-dos, then i type afudos.exe
Then of that i type again afudos /iP5BD0910.rom
It's start to load the bios, but then a banner said: please check for a new bios version in. www.asus.com.tw
And it happend with all bios version, 0302, 0504, 0711, 0908, 0910, only work with 1004 abobe 1004 :s