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Nvidia 680a ASUS L1N64-SLI WS Dual Socket F Results
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Nice Andre..keep it coming..
:cool:
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Wait a second....
Andre, this board allows socketF Opterons to run on non-reg. DDR2????? Holy $hit....It's time I get me one of these...Or you can send me yours ;)
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try them under some xtreem cooling :)
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Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Wait a second....
Andre, this board allows socketF Opterons to run on non-reg. DDR2????? Holy $hit....It's time I get me one of these...Or you can send me yours ;)
It seems to be in line with speculations I read on RWT and other forums. Basically every Opteron can work with un-reg DDR2 if mobo is allowing and your are connecting only 2 DIMMS per CPU! (regular A64 are using spare HT connections for greater Drive Strength which allows 4 unreg memories, Opterons need all HT connectors and that is why you can use only 2 unreg sticks /less Drive Strength/).
It is exactly same situation as it was with AMD760MP bridges. You could insert 2 un-reg DIMMS but if you needed 4 DIMMS the only available option was registered RAM :) .
The question now to be answered is:
- is this mobo allowing all Opterons or this particular ones which are ES samples?
There can be some bios limitation not to run with normal Opties, but it can work with ES samples. Just a thought!
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Originally Posted by Lightman
It seems to be in line with speculations I read on RWT and other forums. Basically every Opteron can work with un-reg DDR2 if mobo is allowing and your are connecting only 2 DIMMS per CPU! (regular A64 are using spare HT connections for greater Drive Strength which allows 4 unreg memories, Opterons need all HT connectors and that is why you can use only 2 unreg sticks /less Drive Strength/).
It is exactly same situation as it was with AMD760MP bridges. You could insert 2 un-reg DIMMS but if you needed 4 DIMMS the only available option was registered RAM :) .
The question now to be answered is:
- is this mobo allowing all Opterons or this particular ones which are ES samples?
There can be some bios limitation not to run with normal Opties, but it can work with ES samples. Just a thought!
so can fx cpus run in the server boards with unreg ram and unlocked multis??
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Originally Posted by msimax
so can fx cpus run in the server boards with unreg ram and unlocked multis??
the fx-7x series will not run in Tyan's S2915 mainboard, which is typically representative of a 2p workstation.
dave
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The most important thing to me here is to see S7 posting :) Welcome back sir! we missed you :)
To Andre and the results not bad...are you in a position to measure power draw for us Andre, compared to a normal AM2 setup?
Shame it needs 4 sticks of RAM
Thanks
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Very Nice! Could you run som 3D benchmarks please?
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Great work, you just opened Pandora's box I hop you know.
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This might turn out to be sweet when we have AMD 690 and K8L on the market.
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Originally Posted by dave_graham
the fx-7x series will not run in Tyan's S2915 mainboard, which is typically representative of a 2p workstation.
dave
Dave can you tell us if this is due to Bios limitation or something else? As you know FX-7x are Rev F3 and maybe Tyan bios simply doesn't know about Rev F3??
Do you have Asus L1N64-WS mainboard and time to put there non ES Opterons?
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i've got an L1N64 on order.
it's a bios lock problem. Tyan specifically stated that based on their obligations to AMD, they cannot unlock their bios' for FX parts.
they would also need to re-certify the memory interfaces for DDR2-800 and that's not something they want to do.
dave
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Originally Posted by dave_graham
i've got an L1N64 on order.
it's a bios lock problem. Tyan specifically stated that based on their obligations to AMD, they cannot unlock their bios' for FX parts.
they would also need to re-certify the memory interfaces for DDR2-800 and that's not something they want to do.
dave
Thanks for clarification!! :toast:
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a few requests.
run a 32M at the same speed, but do it as a single core run.
why?
quad core Kentsifields suffer a speed loss from the low bandwidth and 4 cores being active remove how effective the CPU really is.
I want to see how this set up holds up under the same conditions.
and, run a sisoft sandra Mips test.
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AndreYang from Sandra MemTest scores I suspect that you're benching on Windows XP 32bit or other non-NUMA OS because memory bandwidth is low (as for quad channel @1142MHz DDR2).
Try to do same tests on XP-64 or Vista if possible, then this test should give around 15GB/s of memory bandwidth and better SuperPI times ;) !
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Originally Posted by K404
The most important thing to me here is to see S7 posting :) Welcome back sir! we missed you :)
Thx :toast: I really want this board to run this pair of gems....They've been sitting around for here for a few weeks while I was deciding on a mobo :rolleyes:
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8...nbsmallpr4.jpg
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Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
This mobo supports Opteron and non-reg memory.:)
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Originally Posted by K404
The most important thing to me here is to see S7 posting :) Welcome back sir! we missed you :)
To Andre and the results not bad...are you in a position to measure power draw for us Andre, compared to a normal AM2 setup?
Shame it needs 4 sticks of RAM
Thanks
I don't have any AM2 CPU.:(
2 Dimm for one CPU, so it can be worked single CPU, not only two CPU.:)
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Originally Posted by AndreYang
This mobo supports Opteron and non-reg memory.:)
i guess i can get started with a 2212 and mob0 for $640 :D
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Two question are any 65nm opterons. And also do you still need fbdimms with board using opterons.
Thanks
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Originally Posted by elec999
Two question are any 65nm opterons. And also do you still need fbdimms with board using opterons.
Thanks
Opteron NEWER REQUIRED FBDIMMS! It requires Registered DIMMS, but from what AndreYang is showing, not on L1N64-WS mainboard for QuadFX:D !
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GJ
pretty photos, and hardware but oc isn't sensation
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Originally Posted by Lightman
Opteron NEWER REQUIRED FBDIMMS!
Didn't Opteron older require FBDIMMS? :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by guess2098
don't u love my CPU XD
Ahhhh...so those are the cpu's you were talking about ;)
And NO, Opterons never ran on FBDimms...those are for Intel's server cpu's. Opterons have traditionally always ran with Registered Ram, although I've been told that the cpu's themselves never required it. It was always up to the mobo manufacturer to required Reg or non-Reg memory, so in the past every mobo manufacturer had followed AMD's HW guidelines. This new breed of motherboard is actually more like a throwback to the time of the inception of the FX cpu's. The original FX was a socket 940 Opteron with unlocked multipliers dubbed the FX51. This "monster" of a cpu ran default @ 2.2G and the few mobo's which accepted this chip required it to run Reg. memory. This memory requirement was one of the most limiting factors in almost ALL dual SOCKET AMD platforms. It generally was considered quite an achievement being able to push these setups ~15FSB over stock speeds. This caused OCer's to shy away from such cpu's but in reality, the SERVER variants of the Opterons (i.e. s940, sF) are built on AMD's absolute BEST silicon....
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didnt OPP take 30k 3dmo1 with fx-51 and 9800XT? that was an achievement..
reg ddr dimms didnt suck that bad, there were some descent kingston and ocz kits, as fas as i can recall ^_^
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Andre, do u mean u can run 1 cpu in a dual socket mobo?
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Originally Posted by \Karting_freak
EDIT
Andre, do u mean u can run 1 cpu in a dual socket mobo?
Yes that's what he means...;)
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This is not the 1st time AMD has done a dual socket FX before. FX-51 anyone.
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is this a bad system to build until k8l quads come out
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2121/untitledbl3.png
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Originally Posted by msimax
is this a bad system to build until k8l quads come out....
That system won't be bad even by the time K13L comes out :p:
Edit - but see if you can find a pair of Rev. F3 Opties as opposed to the older ones as they should be released soon.....;)
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Shouldn't you guys wait for a confirmation that this will work with the Opties. The OP used a ES so maybe there is a change the retail opties won't work.
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Originally Posted by XeRo
Shouldn't you guys wait for a confirmation that this will work with the Opties. The OP used a ES so maybe there is a change the retail opties won't work.
World belongs to brave people ..... :D
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I would wait until you atleast could get other cheaper motherboards with Amd chipset:toast:
As it is now you pay a little to much for the Asus motherboard
But if you got the money to burn:D
Still if i got that much money to use right now i would wait to Q2 and then go
2xBarcelona 2xxx rig (8cores:slobber: ) or 2x Budapest 1xxx rigs:D or if Barcelona and Budapest was delayed i go 2xkentsfield rigs .
And ofcourse Run Wcg on it:D
